Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2009-02-13 Thread jarome

bpa;328432 Wrote: 
> 
> To install  - just unzip and install the 5 files into the Alien/Addons
> directory and restart SC.

If I use the extemnsion installer, there is no Alien directory in my
/Users/me/Library/Application Support/AqueezeCenter/Plugins directory.
So where does this go?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2009-02-13 Thread bpa

> 
> I am running 7.3.2. I installed Alien with the extensions downloader. I
> am not sure where it gets put.
> 
Plugins installed using Extension Downloader currently are stored in
your Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins directory.  This location may
change in future version so see WebUI Settings/Information for location
of plugins directories. 

> 
> I Also installed iPlayer from there. I see the stations, but cannot
> connect.
> 
> Does this only work in the UK now? If not, what am I doing wrong?
> 
If you are referring to the BBCiPlayer plugin - The better quality MP3
streams it finds can only be played from the UK.

> 
> On the first page there is a link to a V5 of iPlayer. How does one
> install it? Will that help?
> 
I don't know what your are referring to the SC main page, BBCiPLayer
plugin or AlienBBC ?.  If it is AlienBBC then you may not have deleted
all the old AlienBBC files as there should be no iPlayer menu item. All
AlienBBC menu are now "iPlayer" menus and so the old iPlayer menu item
will not work.

Stop SC.
Delete the file alienbbc.opml in SC playlist directory (or if you do
not have a playlist directory defined - the cache directory).
Make sure the old manually installed AlienBBC directory has been
deleted. 
Start SC and check if iPlayer menu has gone from AlienBBC.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2009-02-12 Thread jarome

I am running 7.3.2. I installed Alien with the extensions downloader. I
am not sure where it gets put. I Also installed iPlayer from there. I
see the stations, but cannot connect.

Does this only work in the UK now? If not, what am I doing wrong?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-12-29 Thread snoogly

Thanks for the info bpa. In the end I bit the bullet and updated to
7.3.1.
Everything is fine now.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-12-29 Thread bpa

You need 2.03 or later.

Currently AlienBBC 2.4 for 7.3 is readily available.

I think Because of time problem over vacation, the version for 7.2 have
not been added to AlienBBC website but are available from the AlienBBC
(except for mplayer.exe for Windows) codebase:
http://code.google.com/p/alienbbc/source/browse/#svn/trunk

If you give the following info I can advise on an upgrade path.
What version of SC are you running ?
What OS are you using ?
What version of AlienBBC are you currently running ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-12-29 Thread snoogly

bpa;376741 Wrote: 
> It is updated in the latest version of AlienBBC.

Is that just for 7.3, or 7.2 too?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-12-29 Thread bpa

It is updated in the latest version of AlienBBC.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-12-29 Thread snoogly

Was this updated yet?

I still have empty categories.

bpa;365853 Wrote: 
> Yes BBC have changed the HTML again and Addon needs to be updated -
> working on it at the moment.
> 
> As a stopgap - if you are using AlienBBC 2.02 - the "Alternative Listen
> Again" still works as it uses the XML interface. It is better to upgrade
> to 2.02 as it cleans out all the old menu which no longer work and
> provides two different ways to obtain iPlayer info (web & XML.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-12-03 Thread John Millbrook

That's brilliant, thanks very much.

_JM


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-12-03 Thread bpa

Since you are based in the UK - the BBC iPlayer plugin (
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229&highlight=iPlayer 
) would probably be better for you than AlienBBC.  It has the following
advantages

1. MP3 streams means native decoding in SB and less load on server (no
transcoding)
2. MP3 "Listen Again" streams - better quality than RealAudio
3. XML menus so far ess likely to have problem when BBC updates web
site.

The additional features in AlienBBC

1. Categories, Schedule and Search menus for main stations "Listen
Again".
2. Support for local radio and some regional radio which are still in
RealAudio
3. easy access to BBC Podcasts.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-12-03 Thread John Millbrook

Hi, my first post on this forum.

I am thinking of buying a squeezebox duet, and iPlayer was one of the
things that could really swing that decision for me. So this thread
seems to have answered one of my questions already, I will have make
sure that I install AlienBBC and keep it up to date.

My thanks to bpa for this :¬)

Slightly off-topic, and as I am not a techie, can someone point me to
the best place to get internet radio stations for the SD? I am based in
the UK.

_JM


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-12-03 Thread dgovan

Yes iplayer hasn't worked for a couple of days but I knew BPA would be
on to it.  Many thanks in advance.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-12-03 Thread Lesta

I've been successfully running Squeezecenter 7.2 with AlienBBC v2.02
Beta1 for Windows and the priceless iplayer add-on v5 from post 133.
However, in the last few days the "Catagories" menus have been empty.
I've reinstalled Alien BBC and the add-on, but still get the same
result. I can access some programmes through the "Schedule" menus, but
not all.

Has anyone else had a similar problem?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-12-03 Thread bpa

Yes BBC have changed the HTML again and Addon needs to be updated -
working on it at the moment.

As a stopgap - if you are using AlienBBC 2.02 - the "Alternative Listen
Again" still works as it uses the XML interface. It is better to upgrade
to 2.02 as it cleans out all the old menu which no longer work and
provides two different ways to obtain iPlayer info (web & XML.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-09-03 Thread martinshaw

bpa - I'll echo Peter314's sentiments. I don't usually post here but I'm
eternally grateful for your efforts. You're a life-saver. Many thanks


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-30 Thread RalphO

bpa;334417 Wrote: 
> The Addon files should be in Alien/Addons not Alien/Addon/iPlayer

Thanks

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-30 Thread Peter314

Just to add my hearfelt thanks for all your efforts, bpa. I can now
enjoy Listen Again programmes, and with fast-forward and reverse fully
enabled via the handset.

You are a godlike genius and I salute you.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-30 Thread bpa

The Addon files should be in Alien/Addons not Alien/Addon/iPlayer


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-30 Thread RalphO

I have only just discovered the iPlayer add on.  I believe that I have
installed it correctrly (alien/addon/iplayer).  It appears in the Alien
BBC menu but when I try to open it I get the follwoing message

There was an error loading the remote feed for : (Can't locate object
method "parse" via package "Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerParser"
(perhaps you forgot to load "Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerParser"?)
at /Slim/Formats/XML.pm line 187. )

Have I forgotten something.

Other details are:
Windows XP
Slimserver 7.2

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-28 Thread chesheja

I hate to jump in to a long-running thread, but perhaps you can help me,
bpa.

I've installed the latest SlimServer 7.1 for Mac OSX (I have 10.5.4),
installed the latest AlienBBC 2.01 for this SlimServer, and installed
the iPlayer add-on v5.  I have updated the firmware on the SqueezeBox. 


I can successfully see all the programmes, and can click them on the
Mac and they look like they're playing - only no audio comes out of the
SqueezeBox itself.  The display says "now playing [programme]", but the
clock is stuck on 00:00., although on the web interface on the Mac it's
merrily ticking along as though it's playing.

What am I doing wrong?  I was having a problem with mplayer a while ago
- is this likely to be the problem?

Audio from my iTunes library plays without a problem, so the squeezebox
is capable of playing stuff.

Thanks in advance for your help, bpa.

James


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-21 Thread bpa

You need AlienBBC 2.01 for 7.1 - do not use AlienBBC 2.01 for 7.0. 
Be careful when downloading some users have clicked on the wrong
version by accident. 

What OS are you using.

The addon for iPlayer is currently V5 attached to post 133
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=328690&postcount=133


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-21 Thread boonp

Could anyone please help. I have loaded 7.1 squeeze centre and would
like to know which version of alien I should use and is there a iplayer
addon that works with this software configuration.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-20 Thread Weystoner

Sorry Whitman, just wanted to hijack for one post to thank Bpa for
v5iPlayer, which works a treat for me, and for all the help by proxy he
has given me through this thread.

Thanks again,

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-20 Thread whitman

Bpa, thanks for explanation of perl pages etc. Understood (I think).

I've now had a good look just at the iPlayer menu of the latest Addon
for 1.0.6/6.5, and here's some feedback as requested.

The first two menu items, Radio 1 Listen Again and Radio 1 Xtra Listen
Again, I don't use.

Radio 2 Listen Again goes to All BBC Radio 2 Page 2, which leads to
shows L-S only, then All BBC Radio 2 Page 3, which leads to the same
set, and then shows A-K only. So shows S-Z missing from this set of
menus.

Radio 3 Listen Again goes to All BBC Radio 3 Page 2, which leads to
shows N-W only, and then shows A-L, so this set of menus seems to
include everything.

Radio 4 Listen Again goes to All BBC Radio 4 Pages 2-6, which all lead
to the same set of shows, B-F. Then shows A-B. So shows G-Z  missing
from this set of menus.

Radio 5 Listen Again next, but I don't use it.

Radio 6 Music Listen Again goes to All BBC Radio 6 Music Page 2, which
leads to shows M-T, and then shows A-M. So shows T-Z missing from this
set of menus.

BBC7 Listen Again goes to All BBC7 Pages 2-4, which all lead to the
same set of shows, C-J. Then shows A-C. So shows K-Z missing from this
set of menus.

Then a few more stations I don't use, then genre headings, which I also
don't use, then A programmes, B programmes etc through Z and numerals -
which seems the best way with this version to get to a show not on the
lists above (assuming you know the title).

So, it's patchy, but you can sort of get around it - and I guess it's
all still down to how the BBC 'organise' (ha ha) this info at present.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-20 Thread bpa

> 
> So that is right: plain text docs for the three downloaded files?)
> 

They are 3 text files which have Perl code. Perl code is interpreted
and so the files are not immediately executable.

The 3 text (.pm) files have to be in in their own folder
AlieniPlayerMenu in Plugins/Alien/AlienAddon.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-20 Thread whitman

OK, I'll take a look. (So that is right: plain text docs for the three
downloaded files?)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-19 Thread bpa

Sorry I forgot you were running 6.5 - The menu is called "iPlayer" I
think.  This is the only BBC menu that can be trusted to be up to date.
In 6.5 The iPlayer menu content reflects the basic station content as
provided by BBC iPlayer/Radio - Paginated, No categories, schedule or
search. 

All menus still derive the info from BBC website but BBC is not
reliably updating those web site menus which are not iPlayer.

You can use AlienBBC menu editing to hide the old menus.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-19 Thread whitman

Bpa, I was just nosing around the three new downloaded files for the
1.06 new Addon to see if they looked OK, and I noticed they are 'plain
text documents', which I'm sure they should not be. Some problem with
downloading the files I suspect. Any thoughts on how I can get the real
ones?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-19 Thread whitman

I'm confused now. No sign of anything called 'BBC iPlayer Radio'. Where
should I be looking, precisely?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-19 Thread bpa

I think you are using the old (and broken) "Listen Again" menus. There
is no "Radio 2 A-Z'" menu in the iPlayer Addon.

Go to the menu BBC iPlayer Radio - it is probably the last or 2nd last
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-19 Thread whitman

Hello bpa.

bpa;329857 Wrote: 
> For SS 6.5 users - attached is a new version of iPlayer Addon to
> AlienBBC 1.06.
> 
> As before, unzip and put into Alien/AlienAddon directory so that there
> is a directory called AlieniPlayerMenu which has 3 files.  Then restart
> SS.
> 
> Please provide feedback as I did minimal testing.
> 
> 
> It would be better to consider upgrading as I cannot be sure I I will
> be able to continue to provide AlienBBC 1.06 updates as it requires
> maintaining a working SS6.5 setup which I no longer use and remembering
> the SS6.5 code interfaces.

Thanks again for your 'blind' Addon for 1.06/6.5.x. 

I think this is going to be my reason, long awaited, to upgrade to 7.x.
Anyway, not quite yet - and you asked for feedback.

New Addon unzipped and installed fine. Alien BBC now works again,
taking me to second level with iPlayer/Radio 2/Radio 2 A-Z/Radio
3/Radio 4/Radio 4 A-Z/Radio 4 Listen Again/Local Radio Stations/6
Music/BBC7/BBC 7 Weekly Archive/World Service/BBC Listen Again/BBC
Podcasts/and then others that don't matter much to me.

iPlayer on the second level is the least productive link, in that most
links that it takes you to, Radio 2, Radio 3 etc, have only a small
number of programmes before the list just stops. Radio 4 only covers
programmes A-B, for example.

The named-station 2nd level links are the most useful, although 'Radio
2' and 'Radio 2 A-Z' only list 6 or so programmes. The various Radio 4
ones are a bit hit and miss, too. The best ones here are 'Radio 4 A-Z'
which looks like it has most programmes, and 'Radio 4 Listen Again'
which looks like a duplicate of that. 'BBC Podcasts' gave me a 'no
programmes found' message, but that doesn't matter to me personally as
I don't use them.

So, in summary, you have to really look around and find the best and
fullest menus. Not ideal, but a useful stopgap. And so it looks like
7.0 or 7.1 for me soon!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-19 Thread Moisturefarmer

Dear bpa,

Thanks for your efforts with the iplayer add on.

I'm using Squeezebox with SqueezeCentre 7.1 and AlienBBC and iPlayer is
working great.

Noticed that some programmes are empty eg. iplayer radio > A-Z listng >
Jonathan Ross August 16th.

Is this a limitation of the add-on or a problem at the BBC end ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-18 Thread DrBIOS

Hi BPA,

I have just installed SqueezeCenter Version: 7.1 - 22170 with Alien BBC
plugin v2.01b1 and v5 iPlayer add-on on a Windows XP PC. I am acessing
Squeeze Centre with a Logitech Duet package. The whole system is
fantastic and works great!

Next step is to get the whole thing running on a Buffalo Linkstation
Live.

Thank you for your hard work and providing such a great piece of
software to this community. Well done.

DrBIOS.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-16 Thread ken_france

Thanks bpa,

I've just installed the iPlayer Addon to AlienBBC 1.06 running under
SS6.5.x and it works great - listening to Just a Minute as I write

Regarding upgrading, I'd like to upgrade to SqueezeCenter. However I'm
running SlimRoku on my Pinnacle Soundbridge to listen to BBC, but I
believe SlimRoku only works on SS and isn't compatible with SC. The guy
who wrote SlimRoku ("The Endless" if I recall rightly) couldn't be
persuaded to rehash it for SC.

So please continue your support for 1.06 - otherwise my Soundbridge is
junk!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-16 Thread dgovan

I had a few posts earlier saying I was having getting iplayer to work
but now is there and works great.  Got Verity Sharp back which is all I
ever wanted really.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-16 Thread bpa

For SS 6.5 users - attached is a new version of iPlayer Addon to
AlienBBC 1.06.

As before, unzip and put into Alien/AlienAddon directory so that there
is a directory called AlieniPlayerMenu which has 3 files.  Then restart
SS.

Please provide feedback as I did minimal testing.

> 
> should I be upgrading my version of Slimserver and/or AlienBBC.
> 
It would be better to consider upgrading as I cannot be sure I I will
be able to continue to provide AlienBBC 1.06 updates as it requires
maintaining a working SS6.5 setup which I no longer use and remembering
the SS6.5 code interfaces.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-16 Thread sds1969

Hi bpa,

I am running AlienBBC 1.06 on Slimserver 6.5.x, and successfully got
the iPlayer addon running which was on Post#29. 

This has since stopped working (empty lists for each station within the
iPlayer menu).

Is there an updated version available for the iPlayer menus for
AlienBBC v1.06 or should I be upgrading my version of Slimserver and/or
AlienBBC.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-16 Thread bpa

> 
> Plugins::Alien::Parsers::PlayableAodParser::parse
> 

What I wrote in previous post is valid but I notice from the log that
you are using the old "Listen Again" menu items and not the iPlayer
Addon menu. 

*The old "Listen Again" menu are broken do not use them*.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-16 Thread bpa

Missing URLs are because BBC hasn't put RealAudio URLs up or has taken
them down. It is not an AlienBBC problem.

There seems to be three reasons
1. Programs not recorded - it will be shown as not available on BBC
site.  These programs should not even appear on AlienBBC menu.

2. Only Flash (secureMP3) audio on site - for UK listeners the BBC site
will show audio as available (and hence on the AlienBBC menu for UK
listeners) but will not work through AlienBBC which needs RealAudio.
Non UK listeners will not see these items on their menu.

3. iPlayer programs are only available for 7 days.  The BBC seems to
take some programs down early (possible 12-18 hours early) so Loose
ends and possibly the Archer omnibus may be missing for this reason.
However they shouldn't appear on the menu in this case so they may be
problem 2 type.

The BBC sees these problem as bugs in their system and are working to
solve them.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-16 Thread shaunington

Hi bpa,

Thank you very much for writing iPlayer AddOn

The lastest version is almost there, a few links don't work:

Archers Omnibus

>From the log:

Plugins::Alien::Parsers::PlayableAodParser::parse (89) no url found for
Archers Omnibus[08-08-16 12:52:38.4463]

Loose Ends

Plugins::Alien::Parsers::PlayableAodParser::parse (89) no url found for
Loose Ends

Baggage

Plugins::Alien::Parsers::PlayableAodParser::parse (89) no url found for
Baggage

I guess these missing URLs might be caused by the BBC because they are

rearranging the site.

Is this the case?

Cheers

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-13 Thread Neil Sleightholm

Triode;328828 Wrote: 
> Which streams are available as flash and not real?'Saturday Play - Sat, 09 
> Aug 2008' but tonight it has come back.
Sunday's Archers Omnibus was missing but that is back not too.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-13 Thread SuffolkPunch

bpa;328978 Wrote: 
> This looks like it's left over from the V2 version of iPlayer.opml -
> it's not in the V5 version. 
> 
> Delete the current iPlayer* files from Addons, re-install V5 and
> restart. 
> 
> If the problem persists then delete the alienbbc.opml from SC's
> playlist or SC's cache directory and restart.

Thanks!  Tried what you suggested - but that didn't work, so I wiped SC
and Alien BBC and re-installed them.  All is now ok. 

I guess there was some incompatibility with unremoved remnants of
earlier versions of SC and Alien BBC...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-13 Thread bpa

> 
> Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerFirstParser
> 

This looks like it's left over from the V2 version of iPlayer.opml -
it's not in the V5 version. 

Delete the current iPlayer* files from Addons, re-install V5 and
restart. 

If the problem persists then delete the alienbbc.opml from SC's
playlist or SC's cache directory and restart.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-13 Thread SuffolkPunch

bpa;328690 Wrote: 
> Attached is V5 which should restore Listen again.  It hasn't been tested
> thoroughly ( station - categories was giving grief)  but I reckon
> something is better nothing.
> 
> Only the iPlayerParser.pm file has changed since V4.
> 
> Feedback welcome.

The iPlayer is much better, thanks!  

I still get the following error message in SC when I click on BBC
iPlayer > Music:
 error message --- 
There was an error loading the remote feed for : (Can't locate object
method "parse" via package "Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerFirstParser"
(perhaps you forgot to load
"Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerFirstParser"?) at /Slim/Formats/XML.pm
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread Triode

Which streams are available as flash and not real?

If you can't find streams via the rich set of menus on Bryan's plugins,
are they available via the xml addion which I posted?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread Neil Sleightholm

bpa;328523 Wrote: 
> I understand the issue but as a non-UK user, I'll never see this problem
> (I.e. available on web site but not on AlienBBC) as Flash MP3 streams
> are only available to UK listeners.  I have used a UK proxy to see the
> problem.I see, I checked the modem stream and as you say they are not 
> available.
I really hope the BCC aren't going to drop the real audio in favour of
the flash format - I haven't seen anyway of playing them via on
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread sofaman

bpa;328415 Wrote: 
> The interesting blogs are
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/
> Especially entries by James Cridland - his post on this forum are also
> worth reading regarding BBC intentsions.
> 
> Another blog site (I believe one of the BBC developers)
> http://derivadow.com/

Thanks for those - will have a read.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread bpa

Attached is V5 which should restore Listen again.  It hasn't been tested
thoroughly ( station - categories was giving grief)  but I reckon
something is better nothing.

Only the iPlayerParser.pm file has changed since V4.

Feedback welcome.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread andynormancx

bpa;328600 Wrote: 
> 
> Somebody wasn't told about the code freeze.
> 
Indeed   :(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread bpa

Murphy's law or one of its corollaries strikes just as I put up V4.

BBC have changed their format slightly - added an extra sorting option
which has broken the Addon.

> 
> There were more than hints, they explicitly said that a code freeze was
> in place during the Olympics, quite understandably.
> 
Somebody wasn't told about the code freeze.

I'll work on a V5.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread SuffolkPunch

Hi bpa,

Tried increasing the Radio Station Timeout to 80 (was 5 sec), but the
problem  ("empty" playlists) persists. In particular, R5Live gave
"empty". 
A bit of exploration: The iPlayer Radio (V4) only seems to work for
Live Streams. And the "Music" category spits out the following error
message:

-- start error message -
There was an error loading the remote feed for : (Can't locate object
method "parse" via package "Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerFirstParser"
(perhaps you forgot to load
"Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerFirstParser"?) at /Slim/Formats/XML.pm
line 181. )
--- end error message ---


Tried reverting to iPlayer Radio versions 3 and 2, but problem
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread bpa

I'll double check V4 in case I made a mistake last night.

It may be a timer issue (set Settings/Advanced/Network/Radio Statiom
Timeout to 40). BBC website seems to be quite slow recently which I am
assuming is Olympics related. 

Timing issues affect the program with longer listings such as Radio 4 -
so try 5live.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread SuffolkPunch

Hello,

Can someone help with the following problem?

Alien BBC iPlayer search add-on finds stuff ok, but Alien BBC iPlayer
add-on doesn't.

Example:

The Alien BBC iPlayer Search Add-on (version info - see below) can find
all available instances of "Late Junction" (radio 3), and plays them ok.
But the Alien BBC iPlayer radio add-on returns "Empty" for radio 3 (and
radio 4, BBC 7, etc etc).


My system:
Windows XP Pro
SqueezeCenter Version: 7.1 - 22170 @ Mon Jul 28 13:36:57 PDT 2008 -
Windows XP - EN - cp1252
Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt 
Alien BBC (v2.01b1)
Alien BBC iPlayer Add-On V4


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread andynormancx

bpa;328523 Wrote: 
> there were hints in BBC blogs that no changes to iPlayer would be done
> during Olympics.

There were more than hints, they explicitly said that a code freeze was
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread bpa

> 
> "/iplayer/drama" is what is shown on the squeezebox display. I'll try
> and find something from BBC 7 that you can see.
> 

I understand the issue but as a non-UK user, I'll never see this
problem (I.e. available on web site but not on AlienBBC) as Flash MP3
streams are only available to UK listeners.  I have used a UK proxy to
see the problem.

AlienBBC cannot detect the missing audio stream until the user goes to
try to play the episodes and it is impractical to fetch every episode
details to check audio availability before putting up the list of
programs. 

It is a BBC problem.  The users on the Reciva forum are complaining of
the same issue and the Reciva users are using the XML interface not the
web interface.  Furthermore, it seems there may be other issues with the
XML interface. 

These are development issues at the BBC and they will be solved but
there were hints in BBC blogs that no changes to iPlayer would be done
during Olympics.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread bpa

The BBC website tell me the Saturday Play Audio stream is unavailable.

For UK listeners - if you go to the episode details page and then click
the "Dial up modem version" (centre bottom of page) to ON - the
availability of the RealAudio stream will be checked. The status of the
episode should then match the AlienBBC status.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread Neil Sleightholm

Here is another one that is failing: 'Alien BBC' > 'BBC iPlayer Radio' >
'A to Z' > 'All S' > 'Saturday Play - Sat, 09 Aug 2008'

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread Neil Sleightholm

bpa;328409 Wrote: 
> The Archer Fri and Sun are not available to me (i.e. outside UK) on the
> BBC website which makes me believe the episodes are only available in
> Flash-MP3 and not RealAudio. 
> 
> Separately when testing the Mon-Wed episodes -  a couple of the
> episodes took 25 secs to start playing so make sure Radio Station
> Timeout setting is set to something like 40 secs to be safe.  It's
> possible there is extra traffic due to Olympics is hitting BBC web
> site.This is the trace output when trying to play one of the new streams:

Code:


  [08-08-12 07:56:57.1564] Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerParser::parse (311) 
found 144 streams on page 7/7 of url 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/radio/bbc_radio_four?page=7
  [08-08-12 07:56:57.7184] Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerPlayableParser::parse 
(91) Playerable parsing http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00cx2d2/
  [08-08-12 07:56:57.7209] Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerPlayableParser::parse 
(104) found tag a url=/iplayer/drama
  [08-08-12 07:56:57.7221] Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerPlayableParser::parse 
(111) Prog text = '' URL=/iplayer/drama
  



"/iplayer/drama" is what is shown on the squeezebox display. I'll try
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread bpa

sofaman;328305 Wrote: 
> 
> - Anyone know how long this position will last (or any BBC
> resource/page/blog I can keep an eye on)?
> 
The interesting blogs are
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/
Especially entries by James Cridland - his post on this forum are also
worth reading regarding BBC intentsions.

Another blog site (I believe one of the BBC developers)
http://derivadow.com/

sofaman;328305 Wrote: 
> 
> - Are they intending to retain support for .ra streams?
> 
That is the intentions but no improvement in quality. Better quality
will be in the secure MP3 (using Flashplayer) and later this year using
AACplus but it is not clear whether this will be usable by SC or not.  

sofaman;328305 Wrote: 
> 
> - I assume I am in the same boat as everyone else, i.e. as long as keep
> up-to-date with bpa's addons, then I'm just then at the whim of the bbc.
> There was mention of V4 to fix some syntax errors in iplayer.opml -
> couldn't find it myself (having assumed uses xml/sgml syntax...) -
> hopefully these are causing the parser errors and not more bbc
> shenanigans.
> 

The V4 has minor fixes - the main one is that the categories menu
entries (e.g. Comedy, Music, Drama) don't work because of a typo in the
opml. There have been no changes to BBC syntax website for about 4 weeks
- some updates are just a case of code not handling some rarer data
results (e.g. empty tables) .

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread bpa

The Archer Fri and Sun are not available to me (i.e. outside UK) on the
BBC website which makes me believe the episodes are only available in
Flash-MP3 and not RealAudio. 

Separately when testing the Mon-Wed episodes -  a couple of the
episodes took 25 secs to start playing so make sure Radio Station
Timeout setting is set to something like 40 secs to be safe.  It's
possible there is extra traffic due to Olympics is hitting BBC web
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-12 Thread Neil Sleightholm

If you go to Radio 4, The Archers - other episodes. Tue, Wed, Thu are ok
but Fri, Sun, Mon aren't. They seem to be ok on the BBC iPlayer site. 

In general it seems that anything new, from Friday onwards on R4 or R7
is not working on the slim server.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-11 Thread bpa

There are 145 shows - and even more in total episodes so please give
some specifics so the problem can be checked whether the show is
missing on the BBC site or whether the Addon is dropping the show.

The BBC seems to remove some programs a little before the 7 day
timelimit and also the BBC is having a problem with some shows not
recording.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-11 Thread jam1401

Looks like there is some entropy in the R4 iplayer feed format. On many
of the shows I tried this morning I got the error "playlist empty" and
the display just saying /iplayer/factual or /iplayer/drama. other
station feeds seem fine and indeed some of the older content on the R4
feed so this seems like a recent change.

I am running the V3 update on the latest version of Squeezecenter.

Is anyone else seeing this issue?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-11 Thread sofaman

Thanks to bpa and Matt's posts, I've figured out why I cannot play some
recent listen again (have SC7.0/AlienBBC and AddOn v3).

Looks like the particular ReadAudio streams I'm after are non-existent
(i.e. the iplayer dial-up modem version's .ram is present but is zero
bytes). So no chance of just pulling the stream by flashget either :-(

AFAIK this is due to the beeb having some 'technical difficulties'. So
I have some questions (vaguely related to the thread I guess)...

- Anyone know how long this position will last (or any BBC
resource/page/blog I can keep an eye on)?

- Are they intending to retain support for .ra streams?

- I assume I am in the same boat as everyone else, i.e. as long as keep
up-to-date with bpa's addons, then I'm just then at the whim of the bbc.
There was mention of V4 to fix some syntax errors in iplayer.opml -
couldn't find it myself (having assumed uses xml/sgml syntax...) -
hopefully these are causing the parser errors and not more bbc
shenanigans.

Like many others, I'm much indebted to bpa's work as we've a couple of
sb3 used primarily for listen again. Where do I send donations?!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-08 Thread MattC

hi bpa,

bpa;327372 Wrote: 
> 
> We just have to wait and see what happens later this year.

okay - will do - thanks for your responses, they're much appreciated.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-08 Thread bpa

About a year ago NPR changed over from RealAudio to Flash and I went
through the same hoops and looked at the RTMP/RTMPT/RTMPS protocols. 
Looking at the BBC protocol exchanges I got the feeling it wasn't quite
the same.

Anyway nothing can be done at the moment - I can hook in an existing
player but I won't be writing one.

Regarding AAC+ - again why waste more energy speculating. If it is
plain AAC+ there is already a SC solution.  If is "secure" in some way
- there is no ready solution. 

We just have to wait and see what happens later this year.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-08 Thread MattC

bpa;327355 Wrote: 
> AFAICT that is only for the iPlayer 1.0 video as the streaming audio
> that BBC uses was not around in Dec. 

my understanding was that the MP3 streams currently in use for iPlayer
radio were transported using the RTMPS (ie a flash) protocol.  The link
I mentioned touched upon two open source RTMP client implementations,
which although works in progress could provide the necessary to get us
access to the MP3 streams...?

bpa;327355 Wrote: 
> 
> I prefer to wait an see how AAC+ pans out.

is it not quite likely that if/when the bbc start using aac+ it will
also be transported over RTMP?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-08 Thread bpa

> 
> some interesting thoughts here:
> 
> http://philwilson.org/blog/2007/12/d...player-is-hard
> 
> ref using Red5 or RTMPy to provide the necessary RTMP transport
> 

AFAICT that is only for the iPlayer 1.0 video as the streaming audio
that BBC uses was not around in Dec.  

I prefer to wait an see how AAC+ pans out. You should do a test on some
of the Soma streams or Radio Paradise compare a 128kpbs MP3 to a 48kbps
AAC+.   I find AAC+ quite good - lots of AAC+ stations to test on
http://www.tuner2.com/index.html


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-08 Thread MattC

bpa;327342 Wrote: 
> I don't think so - even for the 3 main groups. 
> 

yes, I though I might have been a tad optimistic when I posted that!

some interesting thoughts here:

http://philwilson.org/blog/2007/12/downloading-from-the-bbc-streaming-iplayer-is-hard

ref using Red5 or RTMPy to provide the necessary RTMP transport



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-08 Thread bpa

> 
> pre-compiled binary command-line programs
> 

Asking the BBC to make sure it works on  
* Windows Vista/XP on any x86 processor (VIA, AMD, Intel)
* OSX 10.3.x 10.4.x on PPC and Intel
* Available for Debian, Ubuntu, REdhat, Suse etc. disto on x86
procesors & PPC 
* on PPC processor on NAS Linux kernel 2.6. Glib (I forget)
* on ARM processors for NAS Linux kernels 2.4/2.6 Glibc

I don't think so - even for the 3 main groups. 

The whole point of using Flashplayer was that Adobe takes away all that
pain from BBC (especially Linux which BBC got such flak for iPlayer 1.0)
and Adobe gets loaded onto user PCs.

The possibility AAC+ stream may offer hope if it is not "secure" but
Flashplayer streaming audio supports two formats MP3 and AAC+ so I am
bit wary. However a 64kbit/sec AAC+ stream is touted as being high
quality so same bandwdith costs as RealAudio but better quality audio.

>From Orban site - to be taken with a pinch of salt
> 
> aacPlus is an audio codec developed by Coding Technologies which
> delivers high-quality 5.1 multichannel audio at 128 kbps, near
> CD-quality stereo at 32 kbps, and FM quality stereo at 24 kbps.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-08 Thread MattC

bpa;327244 Wrote: 
> To play theMP3 stream through squeezecenter requires the following:
> 1. If user is not UK based - a UK proxy to handle a subset of bbc.co.uk
> addresses. This probably violates terms of use with BBC. 
> 2. A copy of mozilla plugin for Flashplayer for your platform 
> 3. A mozilla Plugin wrapper which can be used to set up stream decode
> and direct to a false audio output which can be captured. Currently the
> only wrapper (NSPLUGINWRAPPER) that could work is only available on
> Linux using ALSA.  This will violate Adobe terms of use.
> 

thinking about this, perhaps we should ask the bbc really nicely if
they could provide some pre-compiled binary command-line programs for
the common platforms that take an iplayer URL as an argument and then
chuck the audio stream to stdout so we could call this binary instead
of mplayer and life would be good (provided you're in the UK)?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-08 Thread bpa

No - that error usually signifies either a missing file, a typo in an
opml file or an syntax error in one of the Addon files.

The main possibility is an Addon file has been deleted/ corrupted.  If
the problem is local to a submenu or a single menu optopn You have used
a bit of untested code in which case please hive detail of the
submenu/menu/program option chosen 

Another possibility is a network timeout - try increasing
Settings/Advanced/Radio Station Timeout to 30 or 45.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-08 Thread ncameron

AlienBBC iPLayer stopped working for me yesterday with this:

"There was an error loading the remote feed for : (Can't locate object
method "parse" via package "Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerParser"
(perhaps you forgot to load "Plugins::Alien::Addons::iPlayerParser"?)
at /Slim/Formats/XML.pm line 181. )"

Have they changed the way it works again?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-08 Thread bpa

For the record - this links shows the availability of BBC services by
format (Flash mp3,WMA and RealAudio)
http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/playing_programmes/radio_players


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-08 Thread bpa

> 
> so why not let the MP3 stream be delivered anywhere?
> 
Better quality streams such as MP3 require higher bandwidth or the
sharing technology currently used by iPlayer video. Higher bandwidth
means higher costs.

The BBC is funded by UK public through the TV licence. My understanding
is that the last review of the BBC by a UK Parliamentary committee
mandated that any improvements of services were to be delivered to the
users who paid for the service (i.e. UK only) and not as a freebie to
the whole world.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-08 Thread MattC

hi bpa,

forgot to say a big thank-you in my previous post for all your hard
work on AlienBBC, and also thanks for your speedy response to my
post

bpa;327244 Wrote: 
> I think this is one instance and not an indication that BBC is treating
> RealAudio as 2nd Class service.

in some ways maybe, but from using the iPlayer in my browser, they seem
to be treating RealAudio as the "Dial-Up Modem" option, so presumably if
the MP3 is higher bandwidth it should be higher quality, which would be
nice?

bpa;327244 Wrote: 
> 
> The MP3 streams are UK only 
> 

this seems a bit odd in one way, in as much as if they are happy to
deliver the RealAudio stream anywhere geographically, that implies they
are happy to let the actual programme content be delivered anywhere
geographically, so why not let the MP3 stream be delivered anywhere?

bpa;327244 Wrote: 
> 
> there has been no incentive to reverse engineer.
> 

(if I had the ability) the incentive to me would be to reverse engineer
it for the potential quality improvement and choice where there are
"issues" like the one I experienced where I couldn't actually hear what
I wanted to.  incidentally that was the first programme I tried after
we'd listened again to the Archers, so pretty bad luck   ;-(

bpa;327244 Wrote: 
> 
> Given the restrictions and the breaches in terms of use, I feel a
> solution cannot be provided publicly and so it is not worthwhile
> persuing this approach.
> 
> As BBC says RealAudio will still be provided - AlienBBC will have to
> stay with this format.

I understand totally what you're saying, but am really frustrated that
the BBC could not have architected this in a more open way for those
who don't wish to use a browser based plugin to listen to their
content.



thanks again
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-07 Thread bpa

1. The BBC have a bug in their system which is resulting in occasional
programs not being recorded.  I think this is one instance and not an
indication that BBC is treating RealAudio as 2nd Class service. See 1st
Aug blog
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/08/bbc_iplayer_radio_radio_3_prog.html

2. The BBC are moving away from RealAudio to better quality secure MP3
and eventually AAC+.  The MP3 streams are UK onlyand they are MP3 audio
encoding but a Flash proprietary transport and possibly encrpytion.
AFAICT the only player is available from Adobe - there has been no
incentive to reverse engineer.

To play theMP3 stream through squeezecenter requires the following:
1. If user is not UK based - a UK proxy to handle a subset of bbc.co.uk
addresses. This probably violates terms of use with BBC. 
2. A copy of mozilla plugin for Flashplayer for your platform 
3. A mozilla Plugin wrapper which can be used to set up stream decode
and direct to a false audio output which can be captured. Currently the
only wrapper (NSPLUGINWRAPPER) that could work is only available on
Linux using ALSA.  This will violate Adobe terms of use.

Given the restrictions and the breaches in terms of use, I feel a
solution cannot be provided publicly and so it is not worthwhile
persuing this approach.

As BBC says RealAudio will still be provided - AlienBBC will have to
stay with this format.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-07 Thread MattC

I've finally today updated to squeezecenter 7.1 (22170), and alienBBC
2.01, with Addon V3 for iPlayer.

I appreciate that the bbc are regularly changing things at the moment,
but I had a problem tonight, and dig a bit of digging which I thought
might be useful.

If I go to "Home > Alien BBC  > BBC iPlayer Radio  > All BBC Radio 4"
and select  Archive Hour - Sat, 02 Aug 2008 

I get the following message on the squeezebox

"error: No items found in playlist"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/playlists/s7/qs/c0/0b/1900_bbc_radio_fourfm.ram

and indeed if I wget that file on my server, or download via my browser
it's zero sized.

If I go to my browser on my laptop and go to the iPlayer site, and
select the same article all works fine.  however I don't have real
player installed on my laptop.

If I look in my squid proxy logs I can see this http request:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/4/mtis/stream/b00csq7s

and if I look at that URL I see this:

> 
>   
> 
>   
>  identifier="mp3:secure/radio4/RBN2_2000_sat_b00csq7s_2008_08_02_20_12_50"
> authString="daEbgbwc6aWb6bbbvcocYdfblbJdodHaFbv-biM228-cCp-HonFInEoNCoFoyG"/>
> 
> 
>   
> http://www.bbc.co.uk";
> identifier="/radio/aod/playlists/s7/qs/c0/0b/1900_bbc_radio_fourfm"
> href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/playlists/s7/qs/c0/0b/1900_bbc_radio_fourfm.ram"/>
> 
> 
> 
> 

so it looks like there's a choice of mp3 or real, but that the real
stream is broken?

a netstat on my laptop (whilst the iPlayer is in action) shows a
connection to 84.53.177.156:https (cp48186.edgefcs.net resolves to a
couple of IP addresses of which that is one)

but I'm not sure quite how the full URL is built up, or how the
authString is used.

is anyone looking into using these https/mp3 streams via the iPlayer
addon for AlienBBC?

& is there any more information I can give that would be of help?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-07 Thread timmorris

I'd like to add my thanks. I posted a question regarding the beta
plug-in and 7.2 which was due to my inability to read. Brian answered
within 19 minutes, and AlienBBC wasn't even mentioned in the thread's
title initially.

He's since helped me install it, and told me where the prefs and links
are stored so I was able to hand edit them, without having to wait for
Squeezecenter to refresh every time during a bulk edit.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-07 Thread whitman

bpa;326640 Wrote: 
> Because of changes in SC - the Alienbbc routine for 6.5 are different
> than for 7.x and so to keep Alienbbc 6.5 up to date will require
> updating old code ( which takes time to remember how the SS interfaces
> work) and also having old SS 6.5 systems ready on hand to test. So to
> keep both an 7.x and a 6.5 version current will mean doing code twice,
> testing twice and maintaining a working SC 7.x latest beta version, SC
> 7.x release version and SS 6.5 system as well as answering any
> questions/problems that follow a new release. 
> 
> A lot of extra effort and time used when there is limited time to do
> things.

Bpa, I know I speak for many on this forum when I say that we
appreciate very much your efforts and hard work to make AlienBBC an
essential part of the Squeezebox experience. For me, it's an
irreplaceable part. Very often, it IS Squeezebox for me.

I also think it's true that many Squeezebox owners have not moved up
from 6.5.x to 7.x, for various reasons, some to do with kit, some to do
with not wanting to fix the unbroke and suffer the usual headaches. I
would urge you to reconsider, and please update the 1.06 AlienBeeb when
the time is right. Please.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-07 Thread bpa

A typo in the opml file causes the problem in the "categories" .  I'll
be posting a V4 version which fixes it and another small bug shortly.

However as a stop gap the categories under each radio station work.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-07 Thread Dav28

Hi I'm having the same problem as a previous poster:



Hi
I upgraded to 7.1 today and installed AlienBBC version 2.01 beta 1
along with iPlayer Addon ver 3 (I also installed iPlayer search). If
using the web interface I choose iPlayer and then Comedy I get the
following error message "There was an error loading the remote feed for
: (Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at
C:/PROGRA~1/SQUEEZ~1/server/Plugins/Alien/Addons/iPlayerParser.pm line
153. )" I have not looked at all menu options, but for instance the
Radio 4 option seems to work fine. I have SqueezeCentre running on a
Windows Home Server.

Couldn't see any response to this post.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-06 Thread simonaf

I've missed all this as I've been struggling setting up my 'server'
properly over the past few weeks.
Just put in the iPlayer Addon and it seems to work fine. That's great,
thanks a lot!
Reading this thread, I realise now why I suddenly couldn't find my
favourite fix (Radio 3's 'Late Junction').
The iPlayer holds great promise, but also is a triple whammy for me
this year: a) I use Linux ('nuff said elsewhere already!) b) I have
Freesat, for which iPlayer is promised sometime this year c) and now
this.
Great work anyway, thanks again.
Reading this very last makes me wonder about SlimNAS. My 'server' is a
fanless brick with a VIA Epia M motherboard, just great for SC as it
only uses a few watts. My struggles were because Ubuntu-server 8.04
didn't want to know it (kernel problem) and because of my crappy
usb-cdrom. Eventually, I have settled for Debian Etch, which seems
fine.
I know 'if it's broke...' etc, but I'm intrigued. Anyone got any ideas,
views?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-06 Thread bpa

"low powered NAS" such as Linksys NLSU2, Linkstation, QNAP, Synology
DS-101 etc. - memory and limited CPU processing power means 7,0 doesn;t
run well on them and they best stay on 6.5.

The current AlienBBC works by "screen scraping" which means taking a
web page and taking elements from the page.  The problem is if the web
site design changes - the code has to be rewritten. The API provides
the essential information (e.g. program name, description, URL) etc. in
a formal defined way which means less maintenacne and usually quicker.

The BBC have signalled they will be changing audio formats in the near
future and so there will be more web changes whereas the API will
remain constant. So maintenance will be less using API than "screen
scraping".

Because of changes in SC - the Alienbbc routine for 6.5 are different
than for 7.x and so to keep Alienbbc 6.5 up to date will require
updating old code ( which takes time to remember how the SS interfaces
work) and also having old SS 6.5 systems ready on hand to test. So to
keep both an 7.x and a 6.5 version current will mean doing code twice,
testing twice and maintaining a working SC 7.x latest beta version, SC
7.x release version and SS 6.5 system as well as answering any
questions/problems that follow a new release. 

A lot of extra effort and time used when there is limited time to do
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-06 Thread whitman

bpa;326040 Wrote: 
> There is an iPlayer Addon for 6.5.x attached to post 29.  It is really
> intended for those users who cannot upgrade to 7.0 typically low
> powered NAS.
> 
> However the current Addon is a stopgap until BBC get their proper API
> working which will break the link to web site design.   It is unlikely
> that the Addon built on the API will be available for AlienBBC 1.06
> (i.e. SS 6.x)

I don't know what a 'low powered NAS' is, but the reason I haven't
upgraded to 7.0 from 6.5.1 (on my Mac running OS 10.4.11) is because
6.5.1 is working fine and I don't see anything especially attractive
about 7.0 that tempts me to go there - and (as ever with a software
upgrade) it would I'm sure generate its own problems.

However, what's this about API? What is an API? And do I understand
correctly that there won't be an update for 1.06 that will work when
the Beeb sort all this stuff out? If yes, why is that?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-05 Thread Big AAC

Big AAC;326028 Wrote: 
> OK, i've got Putty.exe open and i'm at stage 6, how do i now add the
> three files in /volume1/SqueezeCenter.  what command do i need to
> enter?  do i do this through putty?
> 
> sorry for all the questions..really want to get listen again
> working :)

bpa, your assistance here would be really appreciated (sorry to be a
pain)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-04 Thread bpa

There is an iPlayer Addon for 6.5.x attached to post 29.  It is really
intended for those users who cannot upgrade to 7.0 typically low
powered NAS.

However the current Addon is a stopgap until BBC get their proper API
working which will break the link to web site design.   It is unlikely
that the Addon built on the API will be available for AlienBBC 1.06
(i.e. SS 6.x)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-04 Thread Neil Sleightholm

whitman;325607 Wrote: 
> Hello bpa and all. Any news of an update for Alien 6.5.1? I'm really
> missing my Listen Again via Squeezebox! (Except Radio 4, which seems to
> have stayed intact.)Bryan has done a really good job updating AlienBBC for 
> the iPlayer
changes for 7.0 and 7.1 I doubt these changes will ever be ported back
to 6.5.1. I would suggest upgrading to 7.0 or 7.1.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-04 Thread Big AAC

bpa;325716 Wrote: 
> After you do step 6 to untar the alienbbc distribution, then copy the 3
> iPlayer Addon files into the Addons directory that has just been
> populated by the tar command.

OK, i've got Putty.exe open and i'm at stage 6, how do i now add the
three files in /volume1/SqueezeCenter.  what command do i need to
enter?  do i do this through putty?

sorry for all the questions..really want to get listen again
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-04 Thread mudlark

Hi,

"Click now" has now disappeared from the menu. Really weird.

Thanks for your continuing efforts with alien in spite of the beeb
buggering about with their transmission/streaming methods. 

The stream now runs through as expected.

All the coder's work much appreciated.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-04 Thread bpa

SC is very good at caching URLs and the result screen after parsing an
URL.  So if you replaced v2 by v3 and restarted SC within 300 secs (I
thinks) of selecting the "Arthur Strong" programme - you will get the
cached v2 response even though the v3 code is installed !

I didn't update the first page note as there are two small bugs in v3
that need to be fixed and I had hoped to have updated it by now.

Not sure What you mean about the playing bit and the "drag facility".
Did it work or not ?

Edit: Double checked after images was attached - still don't get "click
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-04 Thread mudlark

Of course not i am a dolt using version 2.

the first post seems to takes me to post 18 which has Vtwo.

Can you let me know where V3 is.

Alo the play stopped at 6.15. i restarted and used the drag facility to
move on and it played to it's miserable confusion.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-04 Thread bpa

The "Click Here" last happened when BBC changed web layout format - I
updated the Addon from V2 to V3 to fix it.  I just tested the Radio 4
listing for Count Strong and got proper title using v3.

Are you using V3 of the Addon ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-04 Thread mudlark

Hi bpa,

I'm enjoying piddler on the roof the latet adventure of that total twat
count arthur strange (mispelling on purpose).

the title appears as "Click here".

what am i doing wrong.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-03 Thread bpa

After you do step 6 to untar the alienbbc distribution, then copy the 3
iPlayer Addon files into the Addons directory that has just been
populated by the tar command.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-03 Thread Big AAC

imsge attached shows the files i have in my public folder on QNAP


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-03 Thread Big AAC

bpa;325705 Wrote: 
> I don't have a QNAP but if you are following ripcaster instructions (
> https://www.ripcaster.co.uk/node/313 ) I can't see why you can't copy
> the files into /volume1/SqueezeCenter/Plugins/Alien/Addons

that is the guide that i used.

not sure how to go about finding the path you posted there


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-03 Thread bpa

I don't have a QNAP but if you are following ripcaster instructions (
https://www.ripcaster.co.uk/node/313 ) I can't see why you can't copy
the files into /volume1/SqueezeCenter/Plugins/Alien/Addons


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-03 Thread Big AAC

OK, i think i've figured out how i need to get this working on my QNAP. 
basically i do have a plugins/alien/addon folder but it is stored with
the main alienbbc-linux-v2.01b1_7.0.tar.gz file which is zipped.

I therefore need to find a way of adding your iplyer files into the
zipped file without unzipping 


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC addon to read iPlayer menus

2008-08-03 Thread whitman

Oh joy! Working fine now. It worries me how much I've missed it. Thanks
bpa.


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