Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2010-04-10 Thread Pank

I would love to use this plugin with "Jive-powered" players like the
Radio that resides my kitchen :) I am well aware that it is currently a
feature that is not planned, but squeezeboxes with nice big displays
uses Jive these days.

Would it be hard work to extent the support of this plugin? 

Cheers,
Rasmus


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2009-01-05 Thread Jonnio

Shoot, I am only running 7a21.  I should have known to check that stuff
first.

Thanks!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2009-01-04 Thread peterw

Jonnio, what version are you running? 7a22 fixed some bugs when manually
scrolling through multiple timers.

I like the idea of a web interface, too. Hopefully I'll find time to
write one... :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2009-01-04 Thread Jonnio

Peter - I want to start with I love your timer.  It has turned my boom
into the ultimate companion to brewing.  I set timers for each time I
need to do something and then just let them roll.  I did have an issue
last night that I wanted to let you know about though, but I haven't
tried to reproduce it.

I set my first timer for 75 minutes, then another for 45 minutes, a
third for 60 minutes, and a fourth for 70...the problem I ran into was
that when scrolling through the timers the first and last were always
visible, the second was rarely visible and the 3rd was occasionally
visible.  When the second timer went off I was not able to cancel it
for almost 5 minutes and I ended up having to cancel other timers to
get to it.

As I was fiddling with it I was thinking, a web interface to these
timers would really be the ultimate way to set them up and to not have
to worry about these types of issues.  If I could sit down and type in
"add hops" or something on each timer I would be in heaven.

Thanks again for a great plug-in


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-24 Thread peterw

4mula1;343657 Wrote: 
> 
> This may be an odd request, but I have some needs for a timer with
> intermediate alarms.  My best example is my frozen fish + mac n cheese.
> Total time is 18 minutes, 8 minutes in I need to start the mac n
> cheese, then 12 minutes in I need to flip the fish.  After 18 minutes
> the fish come out of the oven and the mac n cheese off of the stovetop.
> Right now I juggle two timers and it's somewhat of a PITA. 
> Intermediate points would be awesome!!!

I've given that some thought, but haven't come up with a good plan. I
think of this as "linking" timers, and it seems to me there are two
different ways timers would normally be linked. For tasks like
flipping, turning, stirring, etc., you'd want the second timer to start
when the first ran out, even if you didn't immediately indicate that
you'd done the flip/turn/stir task. For tasks like "now that the dough
has risen, punch it down and start baking the loaf", you don't want the
second timer starting until you've done the first task. I think linkages
should probably be fully usable (meaning creating & managing them, too)
from the player/VFD UI. I'm not sure how best to do that, or if it's
worth the effort (for me). :-/

Sue -- thanks, as always, for the success story! 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-24 Thread MeSue

4mula1;343657 Wrote: 
> Peter,
> 
> This may be an odd request, but I have some needs for a timer with
> intermediate alarms.  My best example is my frozen fish + mac n cheese.
> Total time is 18 minutes, 8 minutes in I need to start the mac n
> cheese, then 12 minutes in I need to flip the fish.  After 18 minutes
> the fish come out of the oven and the mac n cheese off of the stovetop.
> Right now I juggle two timers and it's somewhat of a PITA. 
> Intermediate points would be awesome!!!

Did you notice you can extend the alarm after it goes off? So you could
start with an 8 minute timer, then extended it when you start the mac,
extend again when it's time to flip the fish, and so on.

Peter: I got to have my power nap today. KitchenTimer worked great.
Much faster than setting an alarm. Not quite as fast as setting an
AlarmNote on my PDA, but a much more pleasant wake-up experience.

I've been trying not to go too overboard with plug-ins but now you are
tempting me with Saverswitcher!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-24 Thread 4mula1

Peter,

This may be an odd request, but I have some needs for a timer with
intermediate alarms.  My best example is my frozen fish + mac n cheese.
Total time is 18 minutes, 8 minutes in I need to start the mac n
cheese, then 12 minutes in I need to flip the fish.  After 18 minutes
the fish come out of the oven and the mac n cheese off of the stovetop.
Right now I juggle two timers and it's somewhat of a PITA. 
Intermediate points would be awesome!!!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-23 Thread peterw

pre14 is now up. As of pre13, KitchenTimer does not use the
SqueezeCenter 7.2 alarm code. This makes it work better, and it should
work OK in SqueezeCenter 7.0 and 7.1, too.

As of pre14, there's a KitchenTimer screensaver mode. This is most
useful in conjunction with SaverSwitcher -- for instance, you can set
your Squeezebox to normally show only Date and Time, but alternate
between Date and Time and KitchenTimer if that player has any active or
paused timers. Details on the KT page:
http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html

-Peter


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-22 Thread peterw

MeSue;342935 Wrote: 
> Tried it last night with a timer while my SB was silent. Worked great.
> The only thing to note is that because I have my alarms set to fade in
> the volume, it made me miss the timer because I couldn't hear the alarm
> until it was several seconds past. I can't think of anything I'd use it
> for where being 20 seconds late would really matter, but it might be
> worth noting in the plug-in info for new users.
> 
> Songs aren't restarting when the timer runs out now either. 
> 
> I STILL have not been able to try it for a power nap! This week doesn't
> look promising, either...

Thanks. Good point about the fading -- you've convinced me that I
should completely abandon the SqueezeCenter alarm API. Doing so will
allow KT to behave better, and possibly make it compatible with older
versions of SC7, too. 

I just posted pre12, which just adds the ability to tweak those
settings via the web interface.

Good luck finding time for the power nap. ;-)

-Peter


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-22 Thread MeSue

Tried it last night with a timer while my SB was silent. Worked great.
The only thing to note is that because I have my alarms set to fade in
the volume, it made me miss the timer because I couldn't hear the alarm
until it was several seconds past. I can't think of anything I'd use it
for where being 20 seconds late would really matter, but it might be
worth noting in the plug-in info for new users.

Songs aren't restarting when the timer runs out now either. 

I STILL have not been able to try it for a power nap! This week doesn't
look promising, either...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-21 Thread peterw

MeSue;342064 Wrote: 
> I tried pre9 (now I see there is pre10) but it still starts over the
> song when the timer runs out. It is actually happening when the time
> runs out and not when I cancel it as I originally thought.

OK, you might want to try pre11. It doesn't use the SC7 alarm code
unless your SB is silent when the alarm goes off. And there are more
settings you can change if you're willing to edit the Plugin.pm file
(up next is making these accessible through the web UI). You'll want to
change $fluctuateIfSilent to 0. Available settings:


Code:


  my $minDuration = 15; # shortest number of SECONDS we allow a timer for
  my $twoMinutes = 120; # we push the client back to the countdown mode this 
many SECONDS before an alarm
  my $volChangeDuration = 2;# how often to change the volume (SECONDS)
  my $fluctuateIfSilent = 1;# should the volume fluctuate even if the 
player is silent when the alarm sounds (1==yes,0==no)
  my $fluctuatePercent = 66;# how extreme the fluctuation should be, 0-100
  my $howLongToKeepAlarmSounding = 120; # how many MINUTES to keep ensuring the 
client is playing something
  



$howLongToKeepAlarmSounding is a new enhancement -- it allows you to
configure KT, unlike the SC7 alarm, to keep ensuring that your SB is
playing something for at least X minutes after the alarm sounds.
Setting this > 0 means you're less likely to miss an alarm because the
alarm sounded soon before your playlist ended. Set it reasonably low
and your neighbors won't freak out if an alarm sounds after you've left
for the weekend. :-)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-19 Thread peterw

MeSue;342064 Wrote: 
> I tried pre9 (now I see there is pre10) but it still starts over the
> song when the timer runs out. It is actually happening when the time
> runs out and not when I cancel it as I originally thought.

OK, good, that makes more sense. That is due to the SC7 alarm code --
when an alarm sounds, SC7 *always* issues 'stop' and 'play' commands. I
don't know if that's intentional (another way to get your attention?).
Perhaps KT should only use the SC7 alarm features if the player is off
or silent when an alarm sounds? Or have the KT routine that fluctuates
the volume use the SC7 alarm code if and only if there's a lapsed alarm
but the player is found to be silent. That would handle both your
scenario and cases like a playlist lasting just 22 seconds after the
alarm sounds -- long enough to pass SC7's 20-seconds-after-firing test.
SC7 doesn't ensure that the client is making noise after 20 seconds, and
its 10-random-song fallback means that even players with no playlist
when the alarm sounds might stop making noise after 20-30 minutes; I
think I'd prefer that KT keep nagging me until I cancel or pause the KT
alarm. Maybe that should be configurable, how long after an alarm fires
to ensure that the player is still issuing an audible alert. Forever
might be too long for my neighbors' taste.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-19 Thread MeSue

I tried pre9 (now I see there is pre10) but it still starts over the
song when the timer runs out. It is actually happening when the time
runs out and not when I cancel it as I originally thought.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-18 Thread MeSue

I was using pre6 when that happened. Didn't realize you had done more
work on it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-18 Thread peterw

MeSue;341909 Wrote: 
> I noticed something else today when I was playing with it. If I wait
> until the timer fully runs out and then cancel it, the currently
> playing track starts over from the beginning again.

Odd. KT isn't sending any playlist commands itself, so this might be a
bug with the SC7 alarm code, maybe something about stopping and/or
deleting a SC7 alarm has that side effect. I generally use an Icecast
MP3 stream and haven't noticed any restarts, but my kitchen player has
iffy wifi coverage, so I'd probably chalk any stop+start up to wireless
glitches. Another item to check out.

BTW, I was NOT able to reproduce your trouble with the 2 minute warning
(at least not with SoftSqueeze). The later releases add more proper
debugging output (if you set the level high enough), and it does seem
to be acting as I expected. There was an odd bug before pre8 or pre9
where it would sometimes schedule 2 minute warning timers when it
shouldn't, but that shouldn't cause your problem. :-/

Please keep the feedback & bug reports coming!

Oh, one known bug in the lastest rev: if you save a timer, run it, and
shorten or lengthen that run of the timer, and then choose "Delete and
cancel", KT will cancel the run but not delete the custom timer.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-18 Thread MeSue

> So you want it only to toggle the volume if the client had been silent?
No, I'd only want it to toggle the volume when the client had been
playing. If it's silent, the music starting would be enough to get your
attention. But I think that you understood that and just made a typo
above.

I noticed something else today when I was playing with it. If I wait
until the timer fully runs out and then cancel it, the currently
playing track starts over from the beginning again.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-17 Thread peterw

MeSue;341578 Wrote: 
> 
> I noticed that if the SB is powered off with the datetime screensaver
> showing, then the 2 minute timer warning only flashes on the screen for
> a second and then it goes back to the current time. Is this supposed to
> happen this way?

Nope. I need to investigate that -- there *IS* code in KT to turn the
player on for the two minute warning, and the screensaver-defeating
code in KT should prevent even the When Idle screensaver from kicking
in. :-(

> Would it be possible to have it not change the volume up and down if the
> SB is not playing anything when the timer is triggered?
> 

So you want it only to toggle the volume if the client had been silent?
Hmm, that should be feasible, though I haven't worked on making any of
the settings user-configurable *yet*. I had planned on making the
amount of reduction configurable, but hadn't thought about letting the
volume be constant if KT had to get the music playing. Good idea.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-17 Thread MeSue

Thanks for the home menu fix. I did a few test timers and they worked.
Haven't tried using it for anything real yet. No time for a power nap
today. ;-)

I noticed that if the SB is powered off with the datetime screensaver
showing, then the 2 minute timer warning only flashes on the screen for
a second and then it goes back to the current time. Is this supposed to
happen this way?

Would it be possible to have it not change the volume up and down if
the SB is not playing anything when the timer is triggered?

That's all for now...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-17 Thread peterw

MeSue;341248 Wrote: 
> FYI - When KitchenTimer is added to the home menu, you can't access it
> by arrow right.

Thanks. pre6 is up now & fixes that problem. pre6 also includes code to
work around http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9502 if you just
accept the truncated suggested name. E.G., in SC 7.2.0, if you choose a
20 minute timer, your SB will display "2" as the suggested name rather
than "20:00" due to bug 9502. :-(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-16 Thread MeSue

FYI - When KitchenTimer is added to the home menu, you can't access it
by arrow right.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-16 Thread MeSue

Mmmm... how about:
Power Nap == 20 minutes

Been waiting for this one. Will check it out soon.


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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: KitchenTimer - set multiple countdown timers

2008-09-16 Thread peterw

As discussed on the Boom forum and mentioned in my .sig, I have a new
plugin available that I call KitchenTimer. It lets you set per-player
countdown timers that use visual and audible alerts to get your
attention. I just posted the "pre5" release, which now includes the
ability to name/save timers for nicer countdown displays and reuse.

Please note: this plugin requires SqueezeCenter 7.2, as it uses the new
Alarm APIs for ensuring that the audible "Late!!!" alarms will sound.
http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html

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