Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-07 Thread bpa

> 
> I agree squeezeslave is the no-gui player, it's just unfortunate that
> it has a major flaw and is not being developed any more.
> 
There has been more development recently on squeezeslave that
Softsqueeze.

> 
> I'd do it myself but I don't know either Java or what I'm really doing
> when it comes to compiling Java applications.
> 
Everybody starts with no knowledge of Java - I didn't about 3 months
ago.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-07 Thread rickwookie

I'd be really interested in seeing this issue resolved. I've had the
same problems reported here for a long time and I'd never considered
that it might be because I don't have X. I assumed that -Dskin=headless
would switch off all GUI routines.

If this could be fixed it would be great.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-07 Thread rjg_scotland

I agree squeezeslave is the no-gui player, it's just unfortunate that it
has a major flaw and is not being developed any more. Well, if you could
build a version, just for testing, it'd be really appreciated - but no
pressure :). 

Perhaps someone else might take up an interest in persuing the no-gui
version further if it tests sucessful. I'd do it myself but I don't know
either Java or what I'm really doing when it comes to compiling Java
applications.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-07 Thread bpa

I am only doing basic maintenance on Softsqueeze to keep it runnig with
new version of Java and Squeezecenter. If I build a no GUI version would
be only to test headless issue to isolate the problem. 

However, this does not stop anybody else from doing so but as I see it
squeezeslave is the no GUI player and there is no point in creating yet
another player and spreading resources even thinner.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-07 Thread nowork

Hi,

I vote for a non GUI version of SoftSqueeze, or at least being able to
invoke SoftSqueeze without a GUI that runs continuously with no
problems.

I too am running a minimal Fedora linux installation without X
installed (booting from a 8Gig Compact Flash Card). I don't want the
overhead of a GUI, and I hope this will be a set-and-forget box.

I'm happy to move from SqueezeSlave to SoftSqueeze on this box if
SoftSqueeze can solve the chipmunk problem, and run non GUI
as-a-service.

Thanks for your help.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-07 Thread rjg_scotland

bpa;421305 Wrote: 
> It's a possibility and worth checking but it may require creating a
> special headless build with no GUI libraries to test.

Well, if you want I could install X (but not sure if/when I could get
round to it today) however I'd rather avoid it. It depends how much of a
bother it is for you (or I) to compile a version without the GUI
libraries.

Thanks for your help so far!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-07 Thread bpa

> 
> Could that be causing problems with SoftSqueeze even in headless mode
> do you think?
> 
It's a possibility and worth checking but it may require creating a
special headless build with no GUI libraries to test.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-07 Thread rjg_scotland

It's ALSA I'm using. I don't actually have X installed on the box I'm
afraid - it's very minimal just for playing audio. Could that be causing
problems with SoftSqueeze even in headless mode do you think?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-07 Thread bpa

Can you run Softsqueeze without the "-Dskins=headless" and then  ignore
the display and use as if headless (i.e. do not do anything at all with
Softsqueeze UI) to see if problems happen. Make sure after Softsqueeze
starts you select a different window and do no SoftSqueeze UI action
whatsoever (e.g. no minimise)

This is needed to check if headless skin is the problem or whether some
part of UI initialisation is the problem.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-06 Thread bpa

IT's posible the Softsqueeze is locked waiting on the Sun JavaSound
output.

How is your audio configured on your system - ALSA, Pulse, OSS ? 

Is there any other app that could do audio at the same time (e.g.
Browser open running a Java applet). ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-06 Thread rjg_scotland

Attached is the thread dump. The process continued to play the track
while stuck for a minute or so before spitting the following out to the
console:


Code:

0[SlimTCP-1] WARN  softsqueeze  - Lost contact with Slim Server



Thanks a lot for your help.


+---+
|Filename: threaddump.txt   |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7359|
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-06 Thread bpa

I assume when Softsqueeze is running, it is running in a shell with its
own window.   I want you to get a thread dump of Softsqueeze when it is
stuck.

>From another shell prompt window - find out the process number (pid) of
the Softsqueeze process and issue the following command
kill -QUIT 

where  is the process number.

This will cause the JVM to do a thread dump. Copy the dump to a file
and attach to a post.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-06 Thread rjg_scotland

Single core P4 with HT (according to cpuinfo):


Code:

juke...@jukebox:~/softsqueeze$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
  processor : 0
  vendor_id : GenuineIntel
  cpu family: 15
  model : 2
  model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
  stepping  : 4
  cpu MHz   : 2400.236
  cache size: 512 KB
  fdiv_bug  : no
  hlt_bug   : no
  f00f_bug  : no
  coma_bug  : no
  fpu   : yes
  fpu_exception : yes
  cpuid level   : 2
  wp: yes
  flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm up pebs bts sync_rdtsc
  bogomips  : 4803.75
  clflush size  : 64



The format doesn't matter (same result with any) and it's all from
local files. I should also point out that the display stops updating
with the time/progress bar when it stops responding to user input.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-06 Thread bpa

What is the format (MP3/WMA/ALAC/OGG ?) and source (file/stream) of
music played.

What type of processor ? Doe it have HT or mulitple cores ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-06 Thread rjg_scotland

SqueezeCenter is running and SoftSqueeze is started.

SoftSqueeze is selected from the player dropdown.

Some music is browsed/searched for in the left pane.

A song is set to play.

At this point it does start playing and shows the progress/time, etc.
It's after this it all goes wrong...

If I put the volume up one notch or change track, it works once. After
that the web UI has no effect at all on SoftSqueeze. You can click the
volume, progress bar, next/prev track, pause, or whatever, and nothing
happens. The only way I can shut the player up is to terminate the
process. This happens consistently. I've tried restarting SC also with
no effect.

Hope that helps.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-06 Thread bpa

I'll only try to reproduce with Softsqueeze headless issue.

What type of processor ?  Does it have HyperThreading or multiple cores
?

Assuming SC is running and Softsqueeze has just been started. 
Also make sure SC and Softsqueeze are running on the same system.

Please describe a sequence of mouse clicks on WebUI that causes a
reproducible problem. Please describe the problem.  If it involves
playing a file or stream - please give details of the file format or
stream url.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-06 Thread rjg_scotland

bpa;421042 Wrote: 
> I have done some basic testing headless of Softsqueeze 3.9b1 on Ubuntu
> 8.10 and no problems with MP3 or WMA both streams and files.
> 
> Can you be very explicit about your system config and also provide a
> reproducible exact sequence which shows up a specific symptom. 
> 
> Softsqueeze is now community supported so if you don't provide good
> info on problems, they will never get fixed.


Code:

juke...@jukebox:~$ java -showversion
  java version "1.6.0_07"
  Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_07-b06)
  Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 10.0-b23, mixed mode, sharing)



Soundcard: SiS SI7012

SC installed via squeezecenter_7.3.3~26407_all.deb


Code:

SqueezeCenter Status
  Version: 7.3.3 - 26407 @ Tue May 5 03:18:00 PDT 2009
  Hostname: jukebox
  Server IP Address: 192.168.1.102
  Server HTTP Port Number: 9000
  Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 
  Platform Architecture: i686-linux
  Perl Version: 5.8.8 - i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi
  MySQL Version: 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.4
  Total Players Recognized: 1



squeezeslave-0.8-33-lnx26-alsa-display-i686.tar.gz extracted and run

SoftSqueeze extracted from SoftSqueeze39b1.zip and run via java
-Dslimserver=127.0.0.1 -Dskins=headless -jar SoftSqueeze.jar

Please tell me what info you want me to provide and I'll happily
provide it (any config file contents, etc). Perhaps something in
convert.conf needs to be added/changed (with regards to squeezeslave
"chipmunks" anyway)..?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-06 Thread bpa

> 
> uncontrollable SoftSqueeze headless.
> 

I have done some basic testing headless of Softsqueeze 3.9b1 on Ubuntu
8.10 and no problems with MP3 or WMA both streams and files.

Can you be very explicit about your system config and also provide a
reproducible exact sequence which shows up a specific symptom. 

Softsqueeze is now community supported so if you don't provide good
info on problems, they will never get fixed.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-06 Thread nowork

Hi,

Fedora 10
Squeezecenter Version: 7.3.3 - 26407 @ Tue May 5 03:07:03 PDT 2009
squeezeslave-0.8.33-2.i386
MSI Atom 330 Motherboard, Realtek ALC858 audio(40Watts total power)

Squeezeslave plays ripped CDs and high bitrate internet radio like IO
Radio at 128KBPS, OK.

SqueezeSlave, Chipmunks with National Public Radio (NPR) on WBUR 24kbps
CBR or 32kbps CBR.  The words are intelligible, but the pitch is
chipmunk.

SoftSqueeze plays NPR fine on the same machine. However I don't know
how to make SoftSqueeze "run as a service."

I want to run this box headless and control the onboard audio via
SqueezeCenter/the Web.  Except for chipmunks, squeezeslave seems great.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-06 Thread rjg_scotland

SqueezeCenter: 7.3.2 - 24695
SqueezeSlave: 0.8-33
SoftSqueeze: 3.8

OS: Ubuntu 8.04 server

"Chipmunks" happens with any format (at a sample rate under 44kHz),
including MP3. There's a number of sources (including the thread I
referenced earlier) saying that SqueezeSlave is locked at 44kHz. If you
know different do let me know! It's a shame because otherwise it's
absolutely rock solid.

In the mean time I'll experiment with SoftSqueeze 3.9b1 and
SqueezeCenter 7.3.3.

Thanks for your help!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-05 Thread bpa

More system details - what version of SC and SS ?

If you are using 7.3.x - then use SS 3.9b1 - see
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060


Re: "Chipmunks"
What formats are you playing ?
What version of SC and what OS ?

If it is not a native format either MP3 or Flac then you should examine
the transcoding rules and also try 7.3.3.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SoftSqueeze headless with squeezecenter problems

2009-05-05 Thread nowork

Hi,

I have the same problem.  I can't listen to NPR radio with
squeezeslave, because it sounds like "chipmunks."  I tried softsqueeze
and could play NPR but was tied to the local monitor/gui.

Maybe as more of these cheap/energy efficient boxes get
linux/squeezecenter installations by endusers, we can get enough
interest to have squeezeslave be updated to work with more bitrates?


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