Re: Moving HWPF out of scratchpad

2004-03-25 Thread Avik Sengupta
Lets go with the traditional thing

>Label things beta1, beta2 etc for development releases and full version
>numbers for final versions.  
>Increase the major revision number for big changes.


Ryan, you'll have to take a call on where you want to make a release
from, HEAD or 2.0BRANCH. Currently all the HWPF code lives in HEAD.
however, HSSF on HEAD does not pass even the existing unit tests. Do you
want to make a copy of the HWPF code in Branch to make a release? Your
call. I'll help the best I can. 

If we release from branch, lets call it 2.6beta1. If we release from
head, call it 3.0beta1. Right?

Regards
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Avik

On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 16:18, Glen Stampoultzis wrote:
> At 04:51 PM 25/03/2004, you wrote:
> >I am very keen to see HWPF move out of scratchpad, it seems to have a
> >lot of momentum recently. I was about to write a mail on this, Ryan beat
> >me to it. So lets do that ASAP, i think.
> >
> >We should also do a dev release with this in, but I am -1 to calling it
> >a 2.6. And I certainly disagree to adding HWPF to a bugfix release of
> >2.5.1. I dont think our long-suffering users would appreciate that :)
> 
> Alternatives?
> 
> >Guys, I really think we really have to get our version numbering sane.
> >We seem to have introduced a few regressions in 2.5, tho we called it a
> >prod release. So I am all for doing a release, but calling it dev/beta
> >whatever. What do you think?
> 
> Absolutely.  I think we all agree that the current way of doing things is 
> silly.  I'm really not bothered exactly what scheme we choose as long as 
> it's sane.  I figured for the 3.0 stuff we could decide on something 
> sensible then document it as a standard.
> 
> Options:
> 
> Linux style:
> 
> Odd minor numbers for development versions.  Even numbers for production 
> versions. Major numbers when big changes happen.
> 
> Traditional:
> 
> Label things beta1, beta2 etc for development releases and full version 
> numbers for final versions.  Increase the major revision number for big 
> changes.
> 
> Other:
> 
> ???
> 
> I think I prefer traditional style but as I said I'm not really bothered.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Glen Stampoultzis
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Re: Moving HWPF out of scratchpad

2004-03-25 Thread Ryan Ackley
Timescale for moving out of scratchpad, I would hope immediately. The dev
release, hopefully before the JDJ article.

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> Hi Ryan,
>
> What would be the timescale for this?
> As you know, we're working on getting the tables code
> sorted out, and then will be looking into the 'special' strings
> (hyperlinks, embedded objects etc).
>
> Regards,
>   Piers
>
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>
> To all committers,
>
> I would like to get feel out everyones thoughts on moving HWPF out of
> scratchpad. More specifically, what requirements do you want me to meet
> before you would be willing to vote for this to happen?
>
> Avik and I are writing an article for JDJ and it will contain material on
> HWPF. For this article to have the maximum benefit, I feel that HWPF
should
> be as easily accessible as possible. How about a 2.6 release containing
> HWPF? thoughts?
>
> -Ryan
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Re: Moving HWPF out of scratchpad

2004-03-25 Thread Ryan Ackley
> Guys, I really think we really have to get our version numbering sane.
> We seem to have introduced a few regressions in 2.5, tho we called it a
> prod release. So I am all for doing a release, but calling it dev/beta
> whatever. What do you think?

Thats fine, the only thing I care about is having a jar that people can
download.

-Ryan


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Re: Moving HWPF out of scratchpad

2004-03-25 Thread Glen Stampoultzis
At 04:51 PM 25/03/2004, you wrote:
I am very keen to see HWPF move out of scratchpad, it seems to have a
lot of momentum recently. I was about to write a mail on this, Ryan beat
me to it. So lets do that ASAP, i think.
We should also do a dev release with this in, but I am -1 to calling it
a 2.6. And I certainly disagree to adding HWPF to a bugfix release of
2.5.1. I dont think our long-suffering users would appreciate that :)
Alternatives?

Guys, I really think we really have to get our version numbering sane.
We seem to have introduced a few regressions in 2.5, tho we called it a
prod release. So I am all for doing a release, but calling it dev/beta
whatever. What do you think?
Absolutely.  I think we all agree that the current way of doing things is 
silly.  I'm really not bothered exactly what scheme we choose as long as 
it's sane.  I figured for the 3.0 stuff we could decide on something 
sensible then document it as a standard.

Options:

Linux style:

Odd minor numbers for development versions.  Even numbers for production 
versions. Major numbers when big changes happen.

Traditional:

Label things beta1, beta2 etc for development releases and full version 
numbers for final versions.  Increase the major revision number for big 
changes.

Other:

???

I think I prefer traditional style but as I said I'm not really bothered.

Regards,

Glen Stampoultzis
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http://members.iinet.net.au/~gstamp/glen/


RE: Moving HWPF out of scratchpad

2004-03-25 Thread Piers Taylor
Hi Ryan,

What would be the timescale for this?
As you know, we're working on getting the tables code
sorted out, and then will be looking into the 'special' strings
(hyperlinks, embedded objects etc).

Regards,
  Piers

Piers Taylor - Senior Developer
Goss Interactive Ltd
http://www.gossinteractive.com
Telephone: +44 1752 517350


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Sent: 24 March 2004 19:01
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Subject: Moving HWPF out of scratchpad


To all committers,

I would like to get feel out everyones thoughts on moving HWPF out of
scratchpad. More specifically, what requirements do you want me to meet
before you would be willing to vote for this to happen?

Avik and I are writing an article for JDJ and it will contain material on
HWPF. For this article to have the maximum benefit, I feel that HWPF should
be as easily accessible as possible. How about a 2.6 release containing
HWPF? thoughts?

-Ryan


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Re: Moving HWPF out of scratchpad

2004-03-24 Thread Avik Sengupta
I am very keen to see HWPF move out of scratchpad, it seems to have a
lot of momentum recently. I was about to write a mail on this, Ryan beat
me to it. So lets do that ASAP, i think. 

We should also do a dev release with this in, but I am -1 to calling it
a 2.6. And I certainly disagree to adding HWPF to a bugfix release of
2.5.1. I dont think our long-suffering users would appreciate that :) 

Guys, I really think we really have to get our version numbering sane.
We seem to have introduced a few regressions in 2.5, tho we called it a
prod release. So I am all for doing a release, but calling it dev/beta
whatever. What do you think? 

On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 00:30, Ryan Ackley wrote:
> To all committers,
> 
> I would like to get feel out everyones thoughts on moving HWPF out of
> scratchpad. More specifically, what requirements do you want me to meet
> before you would be willing to vote for this to happen?
> 
> Avik and I are writing an article for JDJ and it will contain material on
> HWPF. For this article to have the maximum benefit, I feel that HWPF should
> be as easily accessible as possible. How about a 2.6 release containing
> HWPF? thoughts?
> 
> -Ryan
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Re: Moving HWPF out of scratchpad

2004-03-24 Thread Rainer Klute
Am Mit, 2004-03-24 um 20.00 schrieb Ryan Ackley:
> I would like to get feel out everyones thoughts on moving HWPF out of
> scratchpad.

+0

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Re: Moving HWPF out of scratchpad

2004-03-24 Thread Glen Stampoultzis
I'm +1 on moving it out.  Well done on the massive effort to get it where 
it is today.

Regarding a 2.6.  I guess we can do that.  I was planning for a 2.5.1 to 
include some bug fixes so I suppose we can include HWPF and call it 2.6 
instead.  I really want the 2.0 branch to go away but I can't see that 
happening until HEAD is fixed.

Regards,

Glen

At 06:00 AM 25/03/2004, you wrote:
To all committers,

I would like to get feel out everyones thoughts on moving HWPF out of
scratchpad. More specifically, what requirements do you want me to meet
before you would be willing to vote for this to happen?
Avik and I are writing an article for JDJ and it will contain material on
HWPF. For this article to have the maximum benefit, I feel that HWPF should
be as easily accessible as possible. How about a 2.6 release containing
HWPF? thoughts?
-Ryan

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RE: Moving HWPF out of scratchpad

2004-03-24 Thread Height, Jason
+0

Whilst I haven't a need to use HWPF, from what I have seen in the last few
weeks it has some momentum behind it, and at a seemingly fit state for it to
be promoted.

Certainly judging by the number of bug reports filed against HSSF recently
it couldn't be any worse ;-)

Jason

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From: Ryan Ackley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2004 5:31 AM
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Subject: Moving HWPF out of scratchpad

To all committers,

I would like to get feel out everyones thoughts on moving HWPF out of
scratchpad. More specifically, what requirements do you want me to meet
before you would be willing to vote for this to happen?

Avik and I are writing an article for JDJ and it will contain material on
HWPF. For this article to have the maximum benefit, I feel that HWPF should
be as easily accessible as possible. How about a 2.6 release containing
HWPF? thoughts?

-Ryan


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Moving HWPF out of scratchpad

2004-03-24 Thread Ryan Ackley
To all committers,

I would like to get feel out everyones thoughts on moving HWPF out of
scratchpad. More specifically, what requirements do you want me to meet
before you would be willing to vote for this to happen?

Avik and I are writing an article for JDJ and it will contain material on
HWPF. For this article to have the maximum benefit, I feel that HWPF should
be as easily accessible as possible. How about a 2.6 release containing
HWPF? thoughts?

-Ryan


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