[political-research] Gary Hart: The October Surprise (HuffingtonPost)
Gary Hart: The October Surprise (HuffingtonPost) It should come as no surprise if the Bush Administration undertakes a preemptive war against Iran sometime before the November election. Were these more normal times, this would be a stunning possibility, quickly dismissed by thoughtful people as dangerous, unprovoked, and out of keeping with our national character. But we do not live in normal times. And we do not have a government much... Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-hart/the-october-surprise_b_30086.html __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Intelligence Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [political-research] dave emory
Paul Wolfowitz is not simply Jewish, which is neither here nor there, but he is a militant Jewish nationalist, the Jewish equivalent of a Muslim radical or a militant white nationalist. We know this because of the social network -- neoconservatism -- in which he is deeply embedded, and which includes such close associates as Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, Michael Ledeen and Benjamin Netanyahu. Wolfowitz was the chief architect of the Iraq War and he waged this war on behalf of Israel, period -- not on behalf of the arms lobby, the oil lobby or any other interest. Wolfowitz is all about narrow ethnic nationalism and nothing else, although, like some of the other neocons, he attempts, absurdly, to adopt the coloration of an enlightened universalist in order to disarm and confuse his political opponents.From the Wikipedia entry on Wolfowitz:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_WolfowitzPaul Wolfowitz was the second child of Jacob Wolfowitz and Lillian Dundes. He grew up in the university town of Ithaca, New York, where his father was a Professor of Statistics at Cornell University.Jacob Wolfowitz was a Polish national of Jewish descent who fled to the US with his parents in 1920 to escape persecution. Many of Wolfowitzs relatives left behind in Poland were to die in The Holocaust. James Mann, in Rise of the Vulcans, says that Jacob Wolfowitz "was a committed Zionist throughout his life and, in later years, was also active in organizing protests against Soviet repression of dissidents and minorities."Jacob Wolfowitz took his family with him when he taught sabbatical semesters at UCLA and the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and in 1957, at the age of fourteen, Paul Wolfowitz spent a year living in Israel while his father was teaching at The Technion - Israel Institute of Technology in Haifa; Wolfowitzs sister would later emigrate permanently to Israel. In 1961, Wolfowitz graduated from Ithaca High School, where he had worked on the Tattler student newspaper. Wolfowitz was excused from military service in the Vietnam War through student deferments in order to pursue his academic studies.Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:http://wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=19751is it true that paul wolfowitz is "not jewish" and has actually been involved with a muslim woman of saudi arabia for years? dave emory also says that grover norquist is married to a palestinian muslim woman and "has been evasive on questions about whether he has converted to islam." heh. a little after 18 minutes in, i think. dave emory archive: http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Intelligence Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[political-research] Israel lobby Henry Jackson Society
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[political-research] Israel lobby Libby Legal Defense Trust Members
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Re: [political-research] dave emory
yeah thannks. would you say that wolfie's romance with a muslim of saudi persuasion and grover norquist's palestinian wife and possible conversion to islam could be viewed as evidence of a higher "dialectic?" emory, while apparently buying into the "official story" of 911 (despite numerous and repeated interviews of hopsicker) ties in "the muslim brotherhood" to globalist "corporatism." what a weirdo. - Original Message - From: Sean McBride To: political-research@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [political-research] dave emory Paul Wolfowitz is not simply Jewish, which is neither here nor there, but he is a militant Jewish nationalist, the Jewish equivalent of a Muslim radical or a militant white nationalist. We know this because of the social network -- neoconservatism -- in which he is deeply embedded, and which includes such close associates as Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, Michael Ledeen and Benjamin Netanyahu. Wolfowitz was the chief architect of the Iraq War and he waged this war on behalf of Israel, period -- not on behalf of the arms lobby, the oil lobby or any other interest. Wolfowitz is all about narrow ethnic nationalism and nothing else, although, like some of the other neocons, he attempts, absurdly, to adopt the coloration of an enlightened universalist in order to disarm and confuse his political opponents. From the Wikipedia entry on Wolfowitz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz Paul Wolfowitz was the second child of Jacob Wolfowitz and Lillian Dundes. He grew up in the university town of Ithaca, New York, where his father was a Professor of Statistics at Cornell University. Jacob Wolfowitz was a Polish national of Jewish descent who fled to the US with his parents in 1920 to escape persecution. Many of Wolfowitzs relatives left behind in Poland were to die in The Holocaust. James Mann, in Rise of the Vulcans, says that Jacob Wolfowitz "was a committed Zionist throughout his life and, in later years, was also active in organizing protests against Soviet repression of dissidents and minorities." Jacob Wolfowitz took his family with him when he taught sabbatical semesters at UCLA and the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and in 1957, at the age of fourteen, Paul Wolfowitz spent a year living in Israel while his father was teaching at The Technion - Israel Institute of Technology in Haifa; Wolfowitzs sister would later emigrate permanently to Israel. In 1961, Wolfowitz graduated from Ithaca High School, where he had worked on the Tattler student newspaper. Wolfowitz was excused from military service in the Vietnam War through student deferments in order to pursue his academic studies.Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=19751 is it true that paul wolfowitz is "not jewish" and has actually been involved with a muslim woman of saudi arabia for years? dave emory also says that grover norquist is married to a palestinian muslim woman and "has been evasive on questions about whether he has converted to islam." heh. a little after 18 minutes in, i think. dave emory archive: http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Intelligence Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [political-research] dave emory
Norquist is also the founder of the Islamic Free Market Institute Foundation: http://www.islamicinstitute.org/I wouldn't read too much into this: sectors of the Republican Party and conservative movement have always sought friendly (and profitable) relations with the Arab and Muslim worlds. Remember the affectionate body language between Bush Jr. and that Saudi leader?If Wolfowitz truly loves his new girlfriend, and is trying to build cultural bridges between peoples, all the more power to him, and may God shower blessings upon him, but it is still clear that he engineered the Iraq War on behalf of hardline Israeli and neoconservative interests. Hegelian dialectics probably do not play an important role in these matters.Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:yeah thannks. would you say that wolfie's romance with a muslim of saudi persuasion and grover norquist's palestinian wife and possible conversion to islam could be viewed as evidence of a higher "dialectic?" emory, while apparently buying into the "official story" of 911 (despite numerous and repeated interviews of hopsicker) ties in "the muslim brotherhood" to globalist "corporatism." what a weirdo. - Original Message - From: Sean McBride To: political-research@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [political-research] dave emoryPaul Wolfowitz is not simply Jewish, which is neither here nor there, but he is a militant Jewish nationalist, the Jewish equivalent of a Muslim radical or a militant white nationalist. We know this because of the social network -- neoconservatism -- in which he is deeply embedded, and which includes such close associates as Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, Michael Ledeen and Benjamin Netanyahu. Wolfowitz was the chief architect of the Iraq War and he waged this war on behalf of Israel, period -- not on behalf of the arms lobby, the oil lobby or any other interest. Wolfowitz is all about narrow ethnic nationalism and nothing else, although, like some of the other neocons, he attempts, absurdly, to adopt the coloration of an enlightened universalist in order to disarm and confuse his political opponents.From the Wikipedia entry on Wolfowitz:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_WolfowitzPaul Wolfowitz was the second child of Jacob Wolfowitz and Lillian Dundes. He grew up in the university town of Ithaca, New York, where his father was a Professor of Statistics at Cornell University.Jacob Wolfowitz was a Polish national of Jewish descent who fled to the US with his parents in 1920 to escape persecution. Many of Wolfowitzs relatives left behind in Poland were to die in The Holocaust. James Mann, in Rise of the Vulcans, says that Jacob Wolfowitz "was a committed Zionist throughout his life and, in later years, was also active in organizing protests against Soviet repression of dissidents and minorities."Jacob Wolfowitz took his family with him when he taught sabbatical semesters at UCLA and the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and in 1957, at the age of fourteen, Paul Wolfowitz spent a year living in Israel while his father was teaching at The Technion - Israel Institute of Technology in Haifa; Wolfowitzs sister would later emigrate permanently to Israel. In 1961, Wolfowitz graduated from Ithaca High School, where he had worked on the Tattler student newspaper. Wolfowitz was excused from military service in the Vietnam War through student deferments in order to pursue his academic studies.Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED]net wrote:http://wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=19751is it true that paul wolfowitz is "not jewish" and has actually been involved with a muslim woman of saudi arabia for years? dave emory also says that grover norquist is married to a palestinian muslim woman and "has been evasive on questions about whether he has converted to islam." heh. a little after 18 minutes in, i think. dave emory archive: http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Intelligence Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[political-research] Spy Agencies Say War in Iraq Spread Terrorism Globally
Spy Agencies Say War in Iraq Spread Terrorism Globally The war in Iraq has become the primary recruitment vehicle for violent Islamic extremists, motivating a new generation of potential terrorists around the world whose numbers are increasing faster than the United States and its allies are eliminating the threat, U.S. intelligence analysts have.. Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/23/AR2006092301130.html Comment: It is important to point out yet again that the neocons are deliberately trying to stir up as much Islamic extremism and terrorism as possible, as part of their grand strategic plan to keep the United States bogged down in aholy war against Israel's enemies for decades to come. The neocon-controlled mainstream media are working hard to keep this vital information away from the American people -- they are part of the problem. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Intelligence Social network Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[political-research] The Apocalypse in Iraq
The Apocalypse in Iraq I mean literally. Juan Cole notes that Moqtadr al-Sadr is aligning himself with Ahmadinejad on the imminent return of the Twlefth Imam, a Shiite sign of the Apoclaypse. Money quote:Al-Zaman reports that the young nationalist Shiite cleric maintained that the.. Source: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/andrewsullivan/rApM/~3/26274010/the_apocalypse_.html __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Intelligence Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[political-research] 9/11 Truth:Everybody Knows(except the mainstream media!),Naudet Bros.Update-Guns and Butter-9/11 First Responders.
Update: Guns and Butter - 9/11 First Responders 'This little film is new, catches up with the firefighters from the original film, and most importantly, has a segment in the middle of the film that deals with the health of the fighters. One of the Naudet's comments, "Unless it is the most extraordinary of all coincidence(s), they are all sick." One of the fighters says that he is still sneezing up "black". Most of them have some sort of respiratory problem.' Click here to watch ... ... 9/11 Truth: Everybody Knows (except the mainstream media!) Click here to watch ... Naudet Bros. Update - Guns and Butter - 9/11 First Responders. http://www.911blogger.com/node/3091 ( Home » Naudet Bros. Update... ) Submitted by Reprehensor on Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:07pm. first responders CLARIFICATION: This little film is new, catches up with the firefighters from the original film, and most importantly, has a segment in the middle of the film that deals with the health of the fighters. One of the Naudet's comments, "Unless it is the most extraordinary of all coincidence(s), they are all sick." One of the fighters says that he is still sneezing up "black". Most of them have some sort of respiratory problem. This is a decent little tribute by the Naudet's.-- Update to the Emmy award winning documentary 9/11, produced by brothers Gedeon and Jules Naudet and retired firefighter James Hanlon, shown on Britain's Channel 4 after a repeat showing of the documentary. In September 2001, filmmakers Jules and Gedeon Naudet filmed throughout 9/11 and the days afterwards from the firemen's perspective. As the fifth anniversary of 9/11 approached, the filmmakers revisited the scene of the original documentary.This update includes interviews with the FDNY firefighters featured in the 9/11 documentary. Some have changed jobs, some have been promoted -none can forget what they went through and all are worried about their state of health after the conditions they endured that day. One of the Naudet brothers was married in the Engine 7, Ladder 1 firehouse.19 minutes including creditsAVI Video - DivX Codec (recommend DivX player or VideoLAN) Duration: 19:09Bit rate: 128 kpbsDimensions: 640x352Size: 156 MBDownload --- Also, yesterday, 9/20/2006, on Bonnie Faulkner's Guns and Butter radio show; New York Stories: 9/11 First Responders Toxic conditions at ground zero, on 9/11 and long afterward, have had devastating physical and psychological effects on a category of persons known as "first responders". These are the people that showed up, some within minutes, some from across the country, and stayed for weeks and even months. At Community Church in New York City on September 9, 2006, a group of 9/11 first responders shared their experiences at ground zero and afterward. Though they were touted as heroes, they have been treated like poor servants. Presentations by National Guardsman, David Miller; former New York City police officer, Craig Bartmer; volunteer and civil air patrol pilot, Major Mike McCormick; and former Air Force Speical Operations for Search and Rescue, Kevin McPadden.Streaming Audio archive link here; Sept. 20, 2006http://gunsandbutter.net/archives.php IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO CONTRIBUTE TO GUNS AND BUTTER, PLEASE DO HERE.--- Here are some screen caps from the Naudet update; Click to join catapultthepropaganda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/catapultthepropaganda/joinClick to join openmindopencodenews http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openmindopencodenews/join » add new comment9/11 Truth: Everybody Knows (except the mainstream media!)This is a video response to Donna Marsh O'Connor Begs the Media to Re-Examine 9/11 Rate this video 5168 ratingsPlease login to rate this video. Save to FavoritesAdd to GroupsShare VideoBlog VideoFlag as Inappropriate Views: 52,305 Comments: 189 Favorited: 316 times Honors: 7 show Links tothis video:None (close)Honors for This Video #94 - Most Discussed (This Week)#31 - Most Discussed (This Week) - News Blogs#48 - Top Rated (This Week) - News Blogs#19 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News Blogs#43 - Top Favorites (This Week)#8 - Top Favorites (This Week) - News Blogs #31 - Top Favorites (This Month) - News Blogs (close) Sites Linking to This Video Comments Responses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5pXSWcULbIeurl
[political-research] Video: David Ray Griffin in Copenhagen - 9/14/2006
Video: David Ray Griffin in Copenhagen - 9/14/2006 David Ray Griffin in top form, 9/14/2006, 1:17:08 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8119854514684528700q=david+ray+griffin Source: http://www.911blogger.com/node/3143 __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Intelligence Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___