RE: Hank Big Mon collaboration?

1999-04-16 Thread Jon Weisberger

 This is presumably the song that Muleskinner (Richard Greene, Peter
 Rowan, David Grisman, Clarence White, Bill Keith - plenty of Big Mon
 alumni there) recorded as Blue And Lonesome.  If so, any idea it would
 be credited to Walter Jacobs on the record?

I suspect that's the product of sloppiness at several points in the process
of putting the album together:

Grisman (or Rowan, or...) to Sierra gofer:  "That one's called 'I'm Blue And
Lonesome'"

Sierra gofer to PRO gofer: "I need the writer/publisher credit for 'Blue And
Lonesome.'"

PRO gofer:  "Here you go.  Walter Jacobs."

One of the side effects of putting the BMI and ASCAP databases online is
that everyone can see for themselves just how messy they are...

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RE: Hank Big Mon collaboration?

1999-04-16 Thread James Nelson

 "Jon Weisberger" says

I suspect that's the product of sloppiness at several points 
in the process of putting the album together:

Grisman (or Rowan, or...) to Sierra gofer:  "That one's called 
'I'm Blue And Lonesome'"

Well, if you're right, it started before that, because the record 
was originally issued on Warner Brothers way back in '73 or '74 with the same credits. 
 You'd think that a company with the resources of WB might get it right, right?

Jim N.



RE: Hank Big Mon collaboration?

1999-04-16 Thread Jon Weisberger

Jim Nelson says:

 I suspect that's the product of sloppiness at several points
 in the process of putting the album together:

 Grisman (or Rowan, or...) to Sierra gofer:  "That one's called
 'I'm Blue And Lonesome'"

 Well, if you're right, it started before that, because the record
 was originally issued on Warner Brothers way back in '73 or '74
 with the same credits.  You'd think that a company with the
 resources of WB might get it right, right?

I did not know, or didn't remember, the original issuer, but IMO that it was
a major makes this theory even more likely, because it's even less likely
that an early-70s vintage WB flunky would know a Bill Monroe tune from a
Little Walter one g.

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Re: Hank Big Mon collaboration?

1999-04-15 Thread Geff King

On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Dave Purcell wrote:

 I'm about halfway thru Colin Escott's excellent Hank book and am 
 intrigued by his mentioning a song that Hank and Bill Monroe wrote 
 together. Since I don't have the book, I can't rememeber the name 
 or the exact credit (credited to Ferlin B. Smith or some such), but 
 I'd never heard this before. Anyone have any more info about this?
 
 Dave
 
Bluegrass legend has it that the song was "I'm Blue, I'm Lonesome Too."
Marty Stuart covered it some time back. One listen to the song bears out
the idea that Monroe and Hank co-wrote it - it's so very much the both of
them stylistically.

OK- Jon, correct me if I'm wrong on this, as always.

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RE: Hank Big Mon collaboration?

1999-04-15 Thread Jon Weisberger

 I'm about halfway thru Colin Escott's excellent Hank book and am
 intrigued by his mentioning a song that Hank and Bill Monroe wrote
 together. Since I don't have the book, I can't rememeber the name
 or the exact credit (credited to Ferlin B. Smith or some such), but
 I'd never heard this before. Anyone have any more info about this?

That's "I'm Blue, I'm Lonesome," credited to James B. Smith; Monroe, at
least, used a number of pseudonyms, including Joe Ahr and Albert Price.
Monroe recorded it on 2/3/50, with Jimmy Martin, Rudy Lyle on banjo, Joel
Price on bass and Vassar Clements on the fiddle.  Alison Krauss and Dan
Tyminski did an absolutely stunning version of the song on the Prime Time
Country episode devoted to Monroe that was aired shortly after he passed
away.

"I worked 21 days with Bill, with Little Jimmy Dickens, got to ride the bus
and sing with Hank Williams.  Well, Hank sung a song about the lonesome sigh
of a train going by, I’m blue, I’m lonesome too.  And I learnt that lonesome
touch from Hank Williams, I said to myself, I’m going to put a little Hank
in his own song.  And when Bill sang tenor, Bill would say, well, put as of
that break in your voice like that and I’ll put it in mine, you see." --
Jimmy Martin

It seems like I heard somewhere that Williams wrote the verse and Monroe
wrote the bridge, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

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