RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Best Of, Golden Hits, etc. are widely available and cheap, and, IMO,
the
"duh" starting point for Miller as a performer - after all, these
songs
("King Of The Road," "Dang Me," "Do Wacka Do," "You Can't Rollerskate
In A
Buffalo Herd," "England Swings," etc.) are some of the most
monstrously
successful ever made. Plus which, they're really good. I like the
Country
Tunesmith collection pretty well, too, but it's definitely an "after"
buy,
as is anything else.
[Matt Benz] Well, sure, I didn't mean to mislead someone by
suggesting a more in depth collection than "Golden Hits," or any of
those cheapo shoody looking collections, but knowing how folks around
here like to dive in head first, suggesting a more comprehensive
collection didn't seem to be any less of a "duh" starting point. If
someone wants to stay in the shallow but hit-filled send of the Roger
Miller pool, then I guess I suggest finding a used vinyl copy of Golden
Hits, which might run ya .25.
RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Thanks, all, for the Roger Miller info. I think I'll go buy them allg Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greater Cinti Roots Music Page: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest Central: http://www.twangfest.com
RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
-Original Message- From: Matt Benz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 9:24 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...) [Matt Benz] Well, sure, I didn't mean to mislead someone by suggesting a more in depth collection than "Golden Hits," or any of those cheapo shoody [Matt Benz] "Shoody:""not up to par." Worse than shoddy, but not as bad as "poopy." someone wants to stay in the shallow but hit-filled send of the Roger Miller pool, [Matt Benz] "send:" there is no actual literal translation of this bit of Benz-type; scholars generally agree that "send" might actually be a misprint (Drew, 1998), although it has been suggested by the more radical members of the field to be a sort of code (Taylor-Heinz Abuatal, 1999)
RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
A few honkers, like the much discussed Lock Stock Teardrops, but not much. Has some of his classics (such as Invitation to The Blues) as cut by Miller in...um..early 70's? 1970, also for Smash. As Rich Kienzle says in the notes to The Best Of Roger Miller, Volume One: Country Tunesmith, "ironically, Miller hadn't recorded most of the early hits he wrote for others until he signed with Smash." Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Ok, so I'm Roger Miller-less and I've been meaning to correct that -- where's the best place to start? Thanks, Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Matt says: A few honkers, like the much discussed Lock Stock Teardrops, but not much. Has some of his classics (such as Invitation to The Blues) as cut by Miller in...um..early 70's? I think. But sticks to mainly to the 60's Smash years. Well fill me in here. Did Miller record much or any in the late 50s? I'm underinformed about him, but I've always assumed that he started recording about then, before developing that idiosyncratic style of his in the 60s. I mean, didn't he work as a sideman with Ray and Faron and such? With some of that generation, like Willie, I tend to *love* the relatively traditional work they did in the late 50s-early 60s before developing into their later, more individualized signature styles, etc. That's why I asked whether there were many early cuts, tonkers, etc. in the set. BTW, Miller was a *huge* favorite of my Dad's. I can still hear my Dad humming Miller tunes with delight while walking around the house or driving, etc. --junior
Re: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Junior asked: Bill: n.p. Roger Miller box, disc1 Oooh! Now we're talking... How is that set? Are there relatively straight tonkers, etc. on there, before the full-blown sixties style sets in? I've seen that thing in stores but have never taken the time to check it out. Matt Benz: A few honkers, like the much discussed Lock Stock Teardrops, but not much. Has some of his classics (such as Invitation to The Blues) as cut by Miller in...um..early 70's? I think. But sticks to mainly to the 60's Smash years. On Disc one, Matt's right, along with some poignant ballads that never fail to affect me. (I bought the set after hearing Mike Ireland cover "A World So Full Of Love"-always tears me up) Disc One ends with the hits that follow- "Chug-a-Lug", "Dang Me", "Do Wacka Do", etc. Disc two's the big 64-67 super mega hit period, but with some other lesser-known gems as well. Disc three is the late sixties/early 70's stuff, still top-drawer though not hits for him, finally concluding with a couple of tunes from the musical "Big River" that gave him some late-career success. I love his writing but find myself appreciating the stuff that wasn't hits even more than some of the more "fun" hit records. b.s.
RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Go to your local used vinyl store. Find at least Miller's first four Smash albums. They sound great and are a cool addition to anyone's collection. You can still get em cheap, too! Or, if you are partial to cd's, get the box set, or the two volume (sold sep.) set from Smash: COuntry Tunesmith and one I think called Best of. -Original Message- From: Dave Purcell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 4:39 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...) Ok, so I'm Roger Miller-less and I've been meaning to correct that -- where's the best place to start? Thanks, Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Nope. He made a few recordings, but was generally unsuccessful as a recording artist until Dang Me...I think the early recordings are mostly early 60's, maybe a couple from the late late 50's, but he was a songwriter and backup musician during those years. -Original Message- From: Ph. Barnard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:36 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...) Matt says: Well fill me in here. Did Miller record much or any in the late 50s? I'm underinformed about him, but I've always assumed that he started recording about then, before developing that idiosyncratic style of his in the 60s. I mean, didn't he work as a sideman with Ray and Faron and such?
RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Or, if you are partial to cd's, get the box set, or the two volume (sold
sep.) set from Smash: COuntry Tunesmith and one I think called Best of.
Best Of, Golden Hits, etc. are widely available and cheap, and, IMO, the
"duh" starting point for Miller as a performer - after all, these songs
("King Of The Road," "Dang Me," "Do Wacka Do," "You Can't Rollerskate In A
Buffalo Herd," "England Swings," etc.) are some of the most monstrously
successful ever made. Plus which, they're really good. I like the Country
Tunesmith collection pretty well, too, but it's definitely an "after" buy,
as is anything else.
Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Ok, so I'm Roger Miller-less and I've been meaning to correct that -- where's the best place to start? Thanks, Dave Get the boxed set. From my standpoint, as a fearless warrior against all production that exceeds five guys standing (or sitting) around amplifiers (or not) -- ok, overdubbing is OK -- anyhow, from my standpoint, his material is consistently good, often great. I think the weaker stuff is his very early material, which may have been pretty basic from the production standpoint (if I remember correctly). But the songs are so strong, and his delivery likewise, that the old production thing just doesn't enter into the equation, for me at least. And some of Roger's most classic stuff, the "Dang Me" sessions, really were just four or five guys playing more or less live. This boxed set was a revelation for me, and I think I better pull it out again, just to make sure I haven't made any agregious blunders, or however you spell it. -- Terry Smith ps I just read that over, and editing's a bitch with this program, so let me rephrase it here -- Miller's arrangements never get in the way of the strong singing and songwriting. And some of those ballads grab you by your heart and just wring it floppy. egregious? aggregateious?
