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At 10:03 AM -0700 on 4/13/99, Jeff Weiss wrote: At 01:39 PM 4/12/99 EDT, you wrote: Linda McCartney. The thread *isn't* the sideperson kept on the payroll because he/she is sleeping with the boss. Not that that would be a bad thread either. Personally, I'll go for Jesse Taylor. All the other names mentioned have (OK, arguably g) focused on quantity over quality. Bob
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Jeff said: The thread *isn't* the sideperson kept on the payroll because he/she is sleeping with the boss. Geez Jeff, you're evil, evil, evil. g Morgan
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At 01:39 PM 4/12/99 EDT, you wrote: Linda McCartney. The thread *isn't* the sideperson kept on the payroll because he/she is sleeping with the boss. Geez Jeff
Re: SOTD (was re: Wilco)
No contest? What about Benmont Tench!? -Original Message- From: Dave Purcell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 9:53 AM Subject: SOTD (was re: Wilco) Greg Harness wrote: I hereby nominate Max Johnston as Sideperson of the Decade. No contest: Greg Leisz. Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
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Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 12-Apr-99 SOTD (was re: Wilco) by Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hereby nominate Max Johnston as Sideperson of the Decade. No contest: Greg Leisz. Lloyd Maines. Carl Z.
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On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:55:05 -0400, Jon Weisberger wrote: Uh, what are the criteria here? Criteria? We don't need no stinkin criteria!! g If we're going to make this official, how about this: The Sideperson of the Decade (SOTD) is the musician who has appeared in a supporting role for multiple P2-related artists or groups during the years 1990 through 1999. The SOTD should be a musician best known for supporting roles as opposed to a solo artist who primarily makes albums under his or her own name but occassionally sits in with others. By this criteria, musicians like the aforementioned Max Johnston, Lloyd Maines, Greg Leist, and Benmont Tench would be eligible. Steve Earle (who has done side work for Cheri Knight and Bap Kennedy but is best known for his own records) would not. How's that sound? Anybody want to actually keep score? g ~Greg ___ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/
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That sounds like a plan...The aforementioned folks should all make that list without too much debate I should think. Morgan At 12:04 PM 4/12/99 +, you wrote: I'm not gonna be a scorekeeper, but I'd be more interested in a top-5 or top-10 side people list than in narrowing choices to just one, etc... --junior, who likes all the names being suggested. Hard to settle on just one
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I don't have time to do it myself, but maybe one of you slackers can visit http://www.allmusic.com and count the references for each SOTD nominee. Personally I think David Lindley might be in the running as well.
Re: SOTD (was re: Wilco)
In a message dated 4/12/99 10:57:22 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uh, what are the criteria here? none whatsoever. Just pure subjective interpretation. Try it sometime! Slim np: Restless Wind: The legendary Billy Joe Shaver
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Sorry to be dense about this g, but are you talking about studio musicians, or folks who have toured with various acts, or both? If the idea is to include the former, exclusively or otherwise, then it seems to me you'd have to start with Paul Franklin, Brent Mason, Stuart Duncan and maybe Rob Hajacos. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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In a message dated 4/12/99 8:52:55 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hereby nominate Max Johnston as Sideperson of the Decade. No contest: Greg Leisz. I vote for Buddy Miller. Slim
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On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:04:56 +, Ph. Barnard wrote: I'm not gonna be a scorekeeper, but I'd be more interested in a top-5 or top-10 side people list than in narrowing choices to just one, etc... Ok, I'll keep score for an official Top 10. Use the criteria I suggested earlier, or make up your own. The basic question: Name the Top 10 Sidepersons of the 1990s. Let's give this a week. I'll take submission up through Monday the 19th. ~Greg ___ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/
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Dunno... If I read the thread correctly, Slim just referred to it being pure subjective interpretation... Hopefully he was talking about this list. g If not, let's take his cue and run with anything goes... Morgan At 01:30 PM 4/12/99 -0400, you wrote: Sorry to be dense about this g, but are you talking about studio musicians, or folks who have toured with various acts, or both? If the idea is to include the former, exclusively or otherwise, then it seems to me you'd have to start with Paul Franklin, Brent Mason, Stuart Duncan and maybe Rob Hajacos. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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Roy Huskey Jr. Se-lah. -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
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In a message dated 4/12/99 12:47:14 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Linda McCartney. OK, one rule: NO SYMPATHY VOTES!!! G Slim
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I'd think the criteria would be only that we're *not* talking a "front" person. So either studio or touring musicians who contribute to the sound and result but aren't the featured performers. So Vince Gill wouldn't qualify, even though he's a top-rate player, whereas Pete Anderson or Gurf Morlix would g. --junior
RE: SOTD (was re: Wilco)
Paul Franklin, Brent Mason, Stuart Duncan and maybe Rob Hajacos Aren't these the guys responsible for almost every record that comes out of Nashville? Jim, smilin'
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So Vince Gill wouldn't qualify, even though he's a top-rate player, whereas Pete Anderson or Gurf Morlix would g. Now junior, that g thingy does not imply a diss of sorts, does it? Them boyz are pretty darned good... Hey, 'bout Mike Campbell, he worked on the solo Petty stuff as well... Knows how to play that "Rich" fer sure. Ah, Dave Minehan (ex of the Neighborhoods) on Paul Westerberg's "14 Songs" tour... Now, that's playing! morgan
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Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 12-Apr-99 Re: SOTD by "Ph. Barnard"@eagle.cc.u So Vince Gill wouldn't qualify, even though he's a top-rate player, whereas Pete Anderson or Gurf Morlix would g. Yep. Vince Gill, Steve Earle, Jon Langford Ricky Skaggs wouldn't qualify. Does Buddy Miller qualify, or do his efforts as frontman disqualify him? I'd exclude him, but it's a tough choice. Do Joey Burns and John Convertino count, or do their Calexico efforts disqualify them? I dunno. As for a list, a few who haven't been mentioned yet that I'd take include: Bruce Kaphan Steve Goulding Kenny Blevins Tom Ray Jim Keltner Eric Heywood Lisa Mednick Erin Snyder (bassist to a billion Pittsburgh twang bands, and a fine chef to boot!) I seem to be biased towards steel players and drummers. Maines would rank at the top of any list I'd make. Carl Z.
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Okay, if y'all won't consider Linda McCartney, I will withdraw the submission in favor of a real one: Jon Brion. The man is all over so many albums, both as a producer and as a musician (Grant Lee Buffalo, Aimee Mann, Eels, Wallflowers, Fiona Apple, Robyn Hitchcock, Sam Phillips, Mary Lou Lord, Elliott Smith... just to name a few of *dozens* of noteworthy artists he's worked with in the 90s), playing just about every instrument conceivable, from drums to calliope to vibraphone to optigon. Truly remarkable if you ask me. I can't even think of another session/side guy that comes close to approximating the resume he's amassed in recent years. Plus, the man in incredibly inventive. Need more proof, go to http://www.allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amgsql=B59455 and see for yourself. I rest my case. Neal Weiss
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Phew... Good, you got me worried there. g I'm with you. I believe they are both absolutely essential to both Dwight and Lucinda's sound respectively... Both artists would be hard pressed to find players with such taste and with such affinity for the aesthetic of their songs... Yep, totally agree with you on that last statement... Both are indeed extraordinary players... morgan At 01:59 PM 4/12/99 +, you wrote: No, no diss at all implied vis-a-vis Anderson and Morlix, two of my favorite musicians. It just felt ironic to be calling them "side players" since they're so celebrated in that capacity that they've almost become stars in their own right. Even though neither is a front person, their "side" work is so remarkable that both have plenty of fans, a reputation of their own, etc... I'd even argue that Dwight's not entirely "Dwight" without Anderson and that Gurf was a crucial aspect of those Lucinda albums, etc... --junior
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Neal submitted: in favor of a real one: Jon Brion. The man is all over so many albums, both as a producer and as a musician (Grant Lee Buffalo, Aimee Mann, Eels, Wallflowers, Fiona Apple, Robyn Hitchcock, Sam Phillips, Mary Lou Lord, Elliott Smith... just to name a few of *dozens* of noteworthy artists he's worked with in the 90s) Very good one! Man, didn't even enter my radar screen. But he is absolutely an amazing "sideman" using that term loosely... Special nod to his work (per list above) with both Grant Lee Buffalo and Elliot Smith... morgan
Re: SOTD (was re: Wilco)
In a message dated 4/12/99 2:20:01 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do I know how to bait Mr. Weisberger or what? g That was too easy. I think he is losing his edge these days, Jim. too easy to flame and never quick enough on the rebound. Maybe we should leave the old guy alone. Slim - smilin' too
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Thought I would bring up Rich Brotherton just because I don't think he's been mentioned yet. Flippo
