RE: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
maybe try that fender p bass , preferably the american, with an ampeg svt 450 and the sustain pushed tp the right. -Original Message- From: Joe Gracey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 8:02 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question! BARNARD wrote: And as you probably know, SGs won't stay in tune worth a damn either. Must be a cursed body shape or something g. I think it has to do with the EBO necks being not very precisely made. If I'm in tune in open E, then almost nothing else is. Those Danelectro-style basses always sound nice to me, although they obviously don't have the all-purpose overall quality of a P-bass. I played one of those today and I liked it pretty good, but it still doesn't have that long, unctuous sustain that I need for KRhodes new stuff. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Joe, On the EBO thing, it's a great bass and the problem is not so much with the bass, but with the tuning keys. I don't know who makes replacement keys for it but there's the tuning problem. The reason for the "thump" sound is the short scale neck thing. The longer the neck. the more sustain. The shorter, well I think you get it. Before you give any money to overseas manufacturers, check out some Anerican made basses. I don't know your price range, but look at used GL basses, ESP, Hamer or Fernandez if you want to go import. The sad thing with Japanese, Taiwan, Korean or cheap basses is they don't hold any resale value. Oh yea, I almost forgot to memtion Peavey basses. I have an endorsement with them and they make a killer product. Believe it or not, your EBO is worth a few bucks depending on year and condition. Upright players like them alot. Good luck, Andy Tanas Joe Gracey wrote: Ok, I have this great old Gibson EBO short-scale bass that I am very comfortable with, played for years, except the dang thing doesn't tune very well and it has that short-scale kind of "thump" sound instead of a long sustain and high end like a P-Bass. Has anybody ever successfully fixed a short scale Gibson so it will tune? And secondly, if I do decide to get a P-Bass or copy thereof, which ones are good and which ones suck? Mexican P-Basses any good? Peavey? Yamaha? Might as well do this off-list, I'm sure this is ultra boring to non-players. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Sorry, Did I say "memtion"? I meant mention. Illiterate in Memphis, but at least I wash my hands after using the bathroom. Andy Tanas Andy Tanas wrote: Joe, On the EBO thing, it's a great bass and the problem is not so much with the bass, but with the tuning keys. I don't know who makes replacement keys for it but there's the tuning problem. The reason for the "thump" sound is the short scale neck thing. The longer the neck. the more sustain. The shorter, well I think you get it. Before you give any money to overseas manufacturers, check out some Anerican made basses. I don't know your price range, but look at used GL basses, ESP, Hamer or Fernandez if you want to go import. The sad thing with Japanese, Taiwan, Korean or cheap basses is they don't hold any resale value. Oh yea, I almost forgot to memtion Peavey basses. I have an endorsement with them and they make a killer product. Believe it or not, your EBO is worth a few bucks depending on year and condition. Upright players like them alot. Good luck, Andy Tanas Joe Gracey wrote: Ok, I have this great old Gibson EBO short-scale bass that I am very comfortable with, played for years, except the dang thing doesn't tune very well and it has that short-scale kind of "thump" sound instead of a long sustain and high end like a P-Bass. Has anybody ever successfully fixed a short scale Gibson so it will tune? And secondly, if I do decide to get a P-Bass or copy thereof, which ones are good and which ones suck? Mexican P-Basses any good? Peavey? Yamaha? Might as well do this off-list, I'm sure this is ultra boring to non-players. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Ok, I have this great old Gibson EBO short-scale bass that I am very comfortable with, played for years, except the dang thing doesn't tune very well and it has that short-scale kind of "thump" sound instead of a long sustain and high end like a P-Bass. Has anybody ever successfully fixed a short scale Gibson so it will tune? And secondly, if I do decide to get a P-Bass or copy thereof, which ones are good and which ones suck? Mexican P-Basses any good? Peavey? Yamaha? Might as well do this off-list, I'm sure this is ultra boring to non-players. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
RE: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Ok, I have this great old Gibson EBO short-scale bass that I am very comfortable with, played for years, except the dang thing doesn't tune very well and it has that short-scale kind of "thump" sound instead of a long sustain and high end like a P-Bass. Has anybody ever successfully fixed a short scale Gibson so it will tune? Not that I know of. I played an EB3 for about 5 years and gave up. And secondly, if I do decide to get a P-Bass or copy thereof, which ones are good and which ones suck? Mexican P-Basses any good? Peavey? Yamaha? The Mexican Precisions are, IMO, as good as or better than anyone else's knockoffs at that price range ($300 or less); the biggest gotcha I've heard about with them is that the pickups and routing for them are slightly different than the old Ps and the new American Standards and up, so that you might have a problem putting in aftermarket replacements (it's apparently not impossible, but it might be more complicated than you would want to DIY). Still, I know a bunch of folks who play them, and have yet to hear of any problems. Personally, I love my '96 American Standard, which when I bought it new ran around $650. Quality workmanship, you can go string-thru-body, and most germane to the tuning issue, and most importantly in terms of your EB0 complaint, it has a graphite reinforcement in the neck that makes it rilly solid. The only time I have to retune the durn thing is if someone (like, for instance, me) bumps into one of the tuning machines; I have taken it from a frigid, dry, air-conditioned room out into 90+ temps w/ high humidity without having to retune, and have gone literally weeks at a time without its going out. Anyhow, I'm not one of those "gotta be a Fender" types, especially once you get more exotic than a Precision, but for a basic bass, the P is awfully hard to beat, and you really can spend about as little - or as much - as you want. Might as well do this off-list, I'm sure this is ultra boring to non-players. Yeah, right, it's not of general interest, like vintage cereals g. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
RE: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Blah blah Yeah, right, it's not of general interest, like vintage cereals g. I daresay more of us have tasted Quisp than played bass. Otherwise an excellent post, Jon.
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Jon Weisberger wrote: Anyhow, I'm not one of those "gotta be a Fender" types, especially once you get more exotic than a Precision, but for a basic bass, the P is awfully hard to beat, and you really can spend about as little - or as much - as you want. Thanks, Jon, sounds real to me. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
RE: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Jon on the relevance or not of equipment threads.. Yeah, right, it's not of general interest, like vintage cereals g. True. We've had Tele threads and amp threads that went on for days. Or, you could just take it to the "fluff" list. On the fluff list, Joe, we could talk basses and Texas history for days with complete impunity g And as you probably know, SGs won't stay in tune worth a damn either. Must be a cursed body shape or something g. Those Danelectro-style basses always sound nice to me, although they obviously don't have the all-purpose overall quality of a P-bass. --junior
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Brad Bechtel wrote: Blah blah Yeah, right, it's not of general interest, like vintage cereals g. I daresay more of us have tasted Quisp than played bass. Otherwise an excellent post, Jon. I doubt it g. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
BARNARD wrote: And as you probably know, SGs won't stay in tune worth a damn either. Must be a cursed body shape or something g. I think it has to do with the EBO necks being not very precisely made. If I'm in tune in open E, then almost nothing else is. Those Danelectro-style basses always sound nice to me, although they obviously don't have the all-purpose overall quality of a P-bass. I played one of those today and I liked it pretty good, but it still doesn't have that long, unctuous sustain that I need for KRhodes new stuff. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Out of curiousity: Does anyone play Alembic (sp?) basses anymore? Or Steinbergers? I always liked Steinberger's guitars and basses because they stayed in tune. Carl Z.
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
I played one of those today and I liked it pretty good, but it still doesn't have that long, unctuous sustain that I need for KRhodes new stuff. Yeah, sustain is not what the Danelectro / Jerry Jones style ones are about, for sure. Seems like the P-bass is pretty irrefutable in these matters... --junior
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
"George L. Figgs" wrote: I don't how similar the workmanship in P's and Jazz basses are, but for what it's worth, I've got a mexican std jazz bass. Thanks, George, and Jerry, and all you poor bass playing bastards out there. It is a tool of ignorance. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
unctuous sustain Damn! Too long for an AOL log-on.
