[pfx] Re: Allow TLSv1 only for internal senders
Jaroslaw Rafa wrote in <20230318234124.ga32...@rafa.eu.org>: |Dnia 18.03.2023 o godz. 23:54:28 Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users pisze: |> Eh, no. I do not do either. (Granted i use PayPal one, two times |> a month, but my bank account is not online-enabled.) |> I _never_ shopped online. This destroys local pharmacies, shops, |> small (hopefully) good jobs that sometimes exist for centuries. |> Western world cities have become faceless culture-free concrete |> djungles with McDonald's smell for kilometres. No. | |Well... if you could just buy the things you *absolutely need* anywhere \ |else |than online... if it were so simple... | |Sorry, but this is the reality, at least where I live. The local shops have |already been by large part destroyed by online shopping. It's too late. You |can't buy anything in a local shop if the shop doesn't sell it. | |Nowadays only the most popular and mass-bought items are available in |physical shops. If you need anything that is a bit less popular, you *have* |to buy it online. Sorry, that's it. Luckily here a couple of shops remain, even for clothes and electronics (mostly household). It is much uglier a bit further away, most smaller villages to not even have a bank or even a bakery no more; some have (also new) so-called "Tante Emma Laden" (Aunt Emma Shop) which offer a bit. Situation is bad for elder people on the land. Even very bad as younger doctors do not go there, and we have had a political movement on Germany over twenty years ago to do something against this trend. Unfortunately then there was a government change, but it surely would have failed even without that. It is just the western world .. and/but not only that and there, of course. (Though it is and was mostly the western world which puts pressure due to its way of doing things; others can do nothing but follow due to economic pressure, sooner or later. But that leads much too far.) |Two examples from last weeks: OMTP to CTIA headphone adapter for a mobile |phone? A replacement battery for a used laptop I just bought (in a physical |shop btw.)? No chance to get anywhere else than online. And I live in a |large city. What should people in rural areas say? Well. For one: i try to avoid too much consumation at first. Most of it is due to brain aka character failures, aka "replacement acts" (sorry, my english) to fill a void. Now whereas i grant there is nothing but void, that void is possibly full of light. That is of course religious, philosophical, etc. Take Alexander Solschenizyn: a hero, then in the Bolschewik Gulag, and when he came back all that he wanted was some bred, sauerkraut and a bottle of Milk a day. (Said Schostakowisch where he lived.) Eh. I think that christian guy also went to the desert and came back saying such before they nailed that sausage somewhere. That is that. No to it actually is yes. (Let alone that totally responseless western way of doing things, or do you buy fairphone and such. Cheap buying, expensive selling. Destroys life on earth. They knew that over 150 years ago btw.! And the Club of Rome gave a picture in 1972 that we still do not look at. No.) But sigh before i start praying. Regarding electronics we have a good one in Darmstadt for many decades, Zimmermann Electronic. And some good (other) computer shops, too. But this is a privileged and "rich" area here, so, well, yes, i can understand this. Of course i do. Then again, if it has not to happen from day to day, one could drive in the next bigger city and buy there, have a coffee or tea (or a smoke dependent who and where you are), and an afternoon in the city, and then go back, on the next Saturday or so. Or stay longer, for some Saturday night. |And as for the banking, I never understand the people who don't do online |banking. You have to constantly pay for something - electricity, Internet, |rent, insurance, telephone etc. - all this happens by transferring money to |some account. There's a dozen of these payments each month. Do you really Yes. Permanently, you initiate it once, and then it happens periodically. |want to go to the bank (or to a post office), stand there in a long line to |pay for this in cash or fill in a money transfer form on paper and give it |to the clerk, instead of doing it conveniently from your computer whenever Ah -- you know the bank was like that two decades ago. Then they did something interesting, shall you ever have read the book "The Money Exchangers" or what its name way, Arthur Hailey i think hmm. So the fun comes only if you know the book. They extended the room and split it 50:50 into a part full of "robots" and some places where human sit. A moving glass wall locks the human part away out of the work hours. The robotic part does no longer have a trashbin even, i think someone made some fire there (and the cameras did not help). So you mostly interact with the robots here. You know. Family businesses
[pfx] Re: timeout after END-OF-MESSAGE
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 04:41:27PM +0100, Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users wrote: > > On 2023-03-20 15:30, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote: > > Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users: > >> > >> I occasionally see timeout after END-OF-MESSAGE in my logs: > > > > When asking a timing related question, it would be helpful if you > > did not delete the timing related onfo from the logs. > > I have pasted the complete log here: > > https://ctxt.io/2/AACQQpeJEA The timeout happened with the connection idle after "." for 20 seconds. Perhaps the remote client was caching the connection for reuse. While Postfix connection caching is more "polite". Mind you, I think you might have a non-default timeout setting, the default smtpd(8) timeout is 300s. -- Viktor. ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
[pfx] Re: timeout after END-OF-MESSAGE
Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users:
I occasionally see timeout after END-OF-MESSAGE in my logs:
On 2023-03-20 15:30, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote:
When asking a timing related question, it would be helpful if you
did not delete the timing related onfo from the logs.
On 20.03.23 16:41, Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users wrote:
I have pasted the complete log here:
https://ctxt.io/2/AACQQpeJEA
according to my logs google mailservers close connection to my SMTP about 30
seconds after mail was send (or rejected).
Looks like you have lowered smtpd_timeout to 20 seconds, in which case smtp
server closes connection sooner.
Or, your machins is under stress and has timeout 20 seconds in this case.
the default:
smtpd_timeout = ${stress?{10}:{300}}s
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[pfx] Re: Debugging options
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 12:59:29AM -0700, Doug Hardie via Postfix-users wrote: > >> Is there a debug setting that will show which tables are searched when > >> an incoming email is received and delivered to a mailbox? > > > > The best answer to that is the documentation: > > > >http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html > > > > You could run Postfix in verbose mode, but learning how the various > > tables are used from verbose logging is challenging. > > Thanks Viktor. I tried the debug approach before posting. That's why > I made the request. The web page requires a lot of parsing too > though. Yes, the broader the question, the longer the answer. On the other hand, understanding Postfix address rewriting is essential knowledge for using Postfix to its full potential. -- Viktor. ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
[pfx] Re: timeout after END-OF-MESSAGE
> On 2023-03-20 15:30, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote: Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users: I occasionally see timeout after END-OF-MESSAGE in my logs: When asking a timing related question, it would be helpful if you did not delete the timing related onfo from the logs. I have pasted the complete log here: https://ctxt.io/2/AACQQpeJEA ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
[pfx] Re: timeout after END-OF-MESSAGE
Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users: > Hello, > > I occasionally see timeout after END-OF-MESSAGE in my logs: > >timeout after END-OF-MESSAGE from mail-lf1-f49.google.com[209.85.167.49] >disconnect from mail-lf1-f49.google.com[209.85.167.49] ehlo=2 > starttls=1 mail=1 rcpt=1 bdat=1 commands=6 > > Is this misbehaving client, or might this be some misconfiguration on my > side? > > I have pasted postconf -n output here: > https://ctxt.io/2/AACQGjeiEQ When asking a timing related question, it would be helpful if you did not delete the timing related onfo from the logs. Wietse ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
[pfx] timeout after END-OF-MESSAGE
Hello, I occasionally see timeout after END-OF-MESSAGE in my logs: timeout after END-OF-MESSAGE from mail-lf1-f49.google.com[209.85.167.49] disconnect from mail-lf1-f49.google.com[209.85.167.49] ehlo=2 starttls=1 mail=1 rcpt=1 bdat=1 commands=6 Is this misbehaving client, or might this be some misconfiguration on my side? I have pasted postconf -n output here: https://ctxt.io/2/AACQGjeiEQ ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
[pfx] Re: Debugging options
> On Mar 19, 2023, at 18:26, Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users > wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 03:48:07PM -0700, Doug Hardie via Postfix-users wrote: > >> Is there a debug setting that will show which tables are searched when >> an incoming email is received and delivered to a mailbox? > > The best answer to that is the documentation: > >http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html > > You could run Postfix in verbose mode, but learning how the various > tables are used from verbose logging is challenging. Thanks Viktor. I tried the debug approach before posting. That's why I made the request. The web page requires a lot of parsing too though. -- Doug ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
