RE: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-03 Thread Baptiste Bauer 

-Message d'origine-
De : Benny Pedersen [mailto:m...@junc.org] 
Envoyé : mercredi 3 août 2011 15:54
À : postfix-users@postfix.org
Objet : RE: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:29:34 +0200, Baptiste Bauer wrote:
>> the problem lies with the relayhost and must be fixed by the 
>> postmaster of
> the relayhost.
>
> Ok you give me the certitude that the problem must be fixed by the 
> provider.
> The mail are blocked on the relayhost. ( according my logs )

can you use the relayhost with smtp auth ?, if so do this with postfix

> Thank you for your help.

so its solved ?


No  
My provider is proposing a solution, to open my mail server ...and directly 
receive mail on the phone via "pop.mydomain.com" ..etc

Actually they tell me to forward mail coming a foreign domain ( ex: gmail) , 
modify the "sender field to someth...@mydomain.fr" 
So hide the true sender ! 

But I don't know if it is really makeable.

RE: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-03 Thread Benny Pedersen 

On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:29:34 +0200, Baptiste Bauer wrote:
the problem lies with the relayhost and must be fixed by the 
postmaster of

the relayhost.

Ok you give me the certitude that the problem must be fixed by the 
provider.

The mail are blocked on the relayhost. ( according my logs )


can you use the relayhost with smtp auth ?, if so do this with postfix


Thank you for your help.


so its solved ?

RE: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-03 Thread Baptiste Bauer 
> the problem lies with the relayhost and must be fixed by the postmaster of
the relayhost.

Ok you give me the certitude that the problem must be fixed by the provider.

The mail are blocked on the relayhost. ( according my logs )

Thank you for your help.

Re: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-03 Thread Ansgar Wiechers 
On 2011-08-03 Baptiste Bauer wrote:
> De : Ansgar Wiechers [mailto:li...@planetcobalt.net] Envoyé : mercredi 
>> Sorry, but this isn't clear at all. Please rephrase, because I have no 
>> idea what you're asking here.
> 
> I draw something, it could be easy to explain : 
> http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5074/shemax.jpg
> 
> you must know my relay is close. 
> And my Boss forbids me to open it !

Umm... I would certainly hope so. You probably won't get any help from
anyone on this list for configuring an open relay. We're getting enough
spam as it is, thank you.

> So,
> Is it possible for a mail from foreigner@otherland to be forward  : 
> 
> nam...@domaine.com --> Alias @world

The sender address (From:) isn't relevant for relaying. The recipient
address (To:) is.

So, at which point does the message delivery fail? Please show a full
transaction from the point where a mail from 
enters your Postfix to the point where the delivery fails. Try to grep a
specific queue-ID from your mail.log. Example with the queue-ID from the
log-line you posted earlier:

  grep 87CA012C922 /var/log/mail.log

If the delivery fails because your relayhost refuses to relay the
message, then - like I said before - the problem lies with the relayhost
and must be fixed by the postmaster of the relayhost.

Regards
Ansgar Wiechers
-- 
"Abstractions save us time working, but they don't save us time learning."
--Joel Spolsky

RE: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-03 Thread Baptiste Bauer 
>De : Ansgar Wiechers [mailto:li...@planetcobalt.net] Envoyé : mercredi 
>3 août 2011 10:08 À : postfix-users@postfix.org Objet : Re: Postfix , 
>aliases : send messages failed

>Sorry, but this isn't clear at all. Please rephrase, because I have no 
>idea what you're asking here.

>Regards
>Ansgar Wiechers


I draw something, it could be easy to explain : 
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5074/shemax.jpg

you must know my relay is close. 
And my Boss forbids me to open it !
So,
Is it possible for a mail from foreigner@otherland to be forward  : 

nam...@domaine.com --> Alias @world


I hope you understand know ^^

Re: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-03 Thread Ansgar Wiechers 
On 2011-08-03 Baptiste Bauer wrote:
> On 2011-08-03 Baptiste Bauer wrote:
>> I phoned yesterday my provider, it propose me a relay with necessary
>> opening port.
>> But securities system problems could exist , what is the critical
>> level ?
>
> To be clear :
>
> It is IMPOSSIBLE to  "transport", "forward" , "alias" a mail from an
> unknow domain  to an outdoordomain ( like @blackberry),
>
> WITH
>
> A closed Relay?
> No hint ? no ticks ?

Sorry, but this isn't clear at all. Please rephrase, because I have no
idea what you're asking here.

Regards
Ansgar Wiechers
-- 
"Abstractions save us time working, but they don't save us time
learning."
--Joel Spolsky

RE: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-02 Thread Baptiste Bauer 
To be clear : 

It is IMPOSSIBLE to  "transport", "forward" , "alias" a mail
from an unknow domain  to an outdoordomain ( like @blackberry), 

WITH

A closed Relay? 
No hint ? no ticks ?

Thank you

-Message d'origine-
De : Baptiste Bauer [mailto:baptiste.ba...@epsmd-aisne.fr] 
Envoyé : mercredi 3 août 2011 08:26
À : 'Ansgar Wiechers'; postfix-users@postfix.org
Objet : RE: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

Thank you Ansgar

I phoned yesterday my provider, it propose me a relay with necessary opening
port.
But securities system problems could exist , what is the critical level ?

RE: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-02 Thread Baptiste Bauer 
Thank you Ansgar

I phoned yesterday my provider, it propose me a relay with necessary opening
port.
But securities system problems could exist , what is the critical level ?

Re: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-02 Thread Ansgar Wiechers 
On 2011-08-02 Baptiste Bauer wrote:
> A mail from local domain : 
> 
> Aug  2 10:41:01 linux postfix/local[9724]: 51F1712C828:
> to=, relay=local, delay=0.92, delays=0.87/0/0/0.05,
> dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/bin/procmail)

That's a mail delivery TO your local domain.

> A mail from Extra : 
> 
> Aug  2 13:03:36 linux postfix/smtp[21004]: 87CA012C922:
> to=, orig_to=,
> relay=mail.option-service.fr[62.244.112.128]:25, delay=0.47,
> delays=0.15/0/0.04/0.27, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host
> mail.option-service.fr[62.244.112.128] said: 530 5.7.1 relay
> restricted (in reply to RCPT TO command))

You need to contact the postmaster of mail.option-service.fr and ask him
to allow relaying from your server. If he refuses, the only thing you
can do is find a different relayhost.

> Sorry for the "top-post" , how don't ?

You configure your mail client to start your reply BELOW the qoute. Or
you do it manually.

Regards
Ansgar Wiechers
-- 
"Abstractions save us time working, but they don't save us time learning."
--Joel Spolsky

RE: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-02 Thread Baptiste Bauer 
The problem seems to be : 

I use a external relay.
I phoned my FAI, and the port are close.
And my boss doesn't want a relay with opened port !

Is it possible to a...@mydomaine.com to receive a mail from b...@gmail.com
And "make an automatic forward to AA@external_domain.com" 
And show that it is a...@mydomaine.com which send to AA@external_domain.com ,
not b...@gmail.com.

Cause my relay only send message to outdoor if the sender is IN THE DOMAIN.



Sorry if you don't understand my words.

-Message d'origine-
De : Ansgar Wiechers [mailto:li...@planetcobalt.net] 
Envoyé : mardi 2 août 2011 12:31
À : postfix-users@postfix.org
Objet : Re: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

On 2011-08-02 Baptiste Bauer wrote:
> What can i do ? i am the host . 
> I am not a veteran user of postfix configuration.
> 
> 
> Where can I find the configuration of the relay ? 

Please post the output of "postconf -n" and an excerpt from your mail
log demonstrating the problem.

Also please don't top-post.

Regards
Ansgar Wiechers
-- 
"Abstractions save us time working, but they don't save us time learning."
--Joel Spolsky

RE: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-02 Thread Baptiste Bauer 
Sorry to use a french version, with "frenchies terms". ... after search the
translation   I am ok ... but I thought "top-post" was a "command" or
something to do with the postfix-users@postfix.org mail 

It is the first time I use maillist ...and it is the first time I manage a
Postfix Installation. 


-Message d'origine-
De : Larry Stone [mailto:lston...@stonejongleux.com] 
Envoyé : mardi 2 août 2011 14:03
À : postfix-users@postfix.org
Objet : Re: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

On 8/2/11 6:48 AM, Baptiste Bauer at baptiste.ba...@epsmd-aisne.fr
top-posted:

> Sorry for the "top-post" , how don't ?

Sorry to be so blunt but if you can't even figure out how to use your mail
program to compose a message, you're in way over your head trying to manage
a Postfix installation.

-- 
Larry Stone
lston...@stonejongleux.com
http://www.stonejongleux.com/

Re: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-02 Thread Larry Stone 
On 8/2/11 6:48 AM, Baptiste Bauer at baptiste.ba...@epsmd-aisne.fr
top-posted:

> Sorry for the "top-post" , how don't ?

Sorry to be so blunt but if you can't even figure out how to use your mail
program to compose a message, you're in way over your head trying to manage
a Postfix installation.

-- 
Larry Stone
lston...@stonejongleux.com
http://www.stonejongleux.com/

RE: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-02 Thread Baptiste Bauer 
My "postconf -n"
-
alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
command_directory = /usr/sbin
config_directory = /etc/postfix
debug_peer_level = 2
html_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.2.10-documentation/html
mail_spool_directory = /var/spool/mail
mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail
mailbox_size_limit = 40024
mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix
manpage_directory = /usr/share/man
message_size_limit = 5072
mydomain = epsmd-aisne.net
myhostname = epsmd-aisne.fr
mynetworks = 125.0.0.0/8, 127.0.0.0/8, 192.168.0.0/24
newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix
notify_classes = resource,software,bounce,delay,policy,protocol
readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.2.10-documentation/readme
relayhost = mail.option-service.fr
sample_directory = /etc/postfix
sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
setgid_group = postdrop
unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550

A mail from local domain : 

Aug  2 10:41:01 linux postfix/local[9724]: 51F1712C828:
to=, relay=local, delay=0.92, delays=0.87/0/0/0.05,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/bin/procmail)



A mail from Extra : 

Aug  2 13:03:36 linux postfix/smtp[21004]: 87CA012C922:
to=, orig_to=,
relay=mail.option-service.fr[62.244.112.128]:25, delay=0.47,
delays=0.15/0/0.04/0.27, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host
mail.option-service.fr[62.244.112.128] said: 530 5.7.1 relay restricted (in
reply to RCPT TO command))




Sorry for the "top-post" , how don't ?


-Message d'origine-
De : Ansgar Wiechers [mailto:li...@planetcobalt.net] 
Envoyé : mardi 2 août 2011 12:31
À : postfix-users@postfix.org
Objet : Re: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

On 2011-08-02 Baptiste Bauer wrote:
> What can i do ? i am the host . 
> I am not a veteran user of postfix configuration.
> 
> 
> Where can I find the configuration of the relay ? 

Please post the output of "postconf -n" and an excerpt from your mail
log demonstrating the problem.

Also please don't top-post.




Regards
Ansgar Wiechers
-- 
"Abstractions save us time working, but they don't save us time learning."
--Joel Spolsky

Re: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-02 Thread Ansgar Wiechers 
On 2011-08-02 Baptiste Bauer wrote:
> What can i do ? i am the host . 
> I am not a veteran user of postfix configuration.
> 
> 
> Where can I find the configuration of the relay ? 

Please post the output of "postconf -n" and an excerpt from your mail
log demonstrating the problem.

Also please don't top-post.

Regards
Ansgar Wiechers
-- 
"Abstractions save us time working, but they don't save us time learning."
--Joel Spolsky

RE: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-01 Thread Baptiste Bauer 
What can i do ? i am the host . 
I am not a veteran user of postfix configuration.


Where can I find the configuration of the relay ? 

-Message d'origine-
De : Benny Pedersen [mailto:m...@junc.org] 
Envoyé : lundi 1 août 2011 17:08
À : postfix-users@postfix.org
Objet : Re: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:46:37 +0200, Baptiste Bauer wrote:

> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 530 5.7.1 relay restricted
> Please I need some help J
>

only the host can tell what it means by relay retricted really is, does 
not help blame others for this error

> Links:
> --
> [1] mailto:baptiste.ba...@epsmd-aisne.fr
> [2] mailto:baptiste.bauer%20at%20epsmd-aisne.fr
> [3] mailto:baptiste.ba...@epsmd-aisne.fr
> [4] mailto:xxx@epsmd-aisne.fr
> [5] mailto:x...@gmail.com
> [6] mailto:baptiste.ba...@epsmd-aisne.fr

Re: Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-01 Thread Benny Pedersen 

On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:46:37 +0200, Baptiste Bauer wrote:


Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 530 5.7.1 relay restricted
Please I need some help J



only the host can tell what it means by relay retricted really is, does 
not help blame others for this error



Links:
--
[1] mailto:baptiste.ba...@epsmd-aisne.fr
[2] mailto:baptiste.bauer%20at%20epsmd-aisne.fr
[3] mailto:baptiste.ba...@epsmd-aisne.fr
[4] mailto:xxx@epsmd-aisne.fr
[5] mailto:x...@gmail.com
[6] mailto:baptiste.ba...@epsmd-aisne.fr

Postfix , aliases : send messages failed

2011-08-01 Thread Baptiste Bauer 
Hello, i am a beguinner with postfix. And I am looking for your help ! ( it
is an emergency ^^)

 

We have an intranet which allow us to send and receive mail  ! 

Exemple : baptiste.bauer at epsmd-aisne.fr
   can send and receive from anywhere 

 

We bought BLACKBERRY.

I must create an aliase which send the received message from baptiste.bauer
  at epsmd-aisne.fr to
baptiste.bauer at blackberry.orange.fr

 

This is the alias : 

 

Baptiste.bauer :  
baptiste.bauer(at)epsmd-aisne.fr, baptiste.bauer (at) blackberry.orange.fr

 

Somebody who send me a mail from xxx@epsmd-aisne.fr ( same local domain
) : it is OK …. Both mailbox receive the mail 

 

BUT 

 

A mail from x...@gmail.com or anything else domain from extranet : send failed
! 

 

This is the mail Delivery System message : 

 

 

   The mail system

 

 (expanded from

   ): host

   mail.option-service.fr[x.xxx.xx.xx] said: 530 5.7.1 relay restricted
(in

   reply to RCPT TO command)

 

Final-Recipient: rfc822; baptiste.ba...@blackberry.orange.fr

Original-Recipient: rfc822;baptiste.ba...@epsmd-aisne.fr

Action: failed

Status: 5.7.1

Remote-MTA: dns; mail.option-service.fr

Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 530 5.7.1 relay restricted

 

 

 

 

 

Please I need some help J 

 

 

 

Bauer Baptiste

Service Informatique
EPSMD de l'Aisne 
02320 PREMONTRE
Tél: 03 23 23 66 17
E-mail:   
baptiste.ba...@epsmd-aisne.fr

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