Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:46:34AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
> Like so?
> 
> http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/attachment/ticket/987/inf2.patch

A few points:

1: GEOS-driven ST_IsValid raises a NOTICE containing the reason, home-made
   version should do the same.
2: I see you're not handling nan, just infinite. Is that intentional ?
3: GEOS-3.2 also survive the inf/nans in GEOSValid, why checkin for 3.3+ ?
4: Expecting the error in tickets.sql makes the whole test file
   pass or fail based on the version of GEOS you built postgis against.

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Re: [postgis-users] polygon of sphere

2011-05-26 Thread pcreso
Hi Mike,

Look at "case" in your SQL, might meet your needs & if the 
ST_contains()/ST_covers() function reuslt is cached in a select statement, 
which I think it is now, will be reasonably effective.

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/interactive/plpgsql-control-structures.html

select case when ST_contains(poly, point) then point_name
  else 'sorry, nothing matches' end as my_name,
  case when ST_contains(poly, point) then point_desc

  else 'there is no description' end as my_desc,
  ...

HTH,

  Brent Wood

--- On Fri, 5/27/11, Michael Welter  wrote:

From: Michael Welter 
Subject: Re: [postgis-users] polygon of sphere
To: "PostGIS Users Discussion" 
Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 7:16 AM

Thanks, Paul,

I have a database of country borders.  If the point lies within a particular 
border then the query will return country-specific information.  If the point 
doesn't lie within a border then I would like to return some default 
information.

Mike

On May 26, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:

> Nope, there isn't. In fact, such a thing will give us the shakes as
> our code for determining in/out status  of an object depends on first
> being able to generate one point that is definitively outside the
> containing area.  Maybe there is some other way to skin your cat, what
> is the higher level problem you are trying to solve?
> 
> P.
> 
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Michael Welter  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Using type GEOGRAPHY, is there a polygon such that ST_COVERS(Polygon,Point) 
>> returns true for every point?  Something like -180˚ to +180˚ longitude and 
>> -90˚ to +90˚ latitude?
>> 
>> Thanks,
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Re: [postgis-users] polygon of sphere

2011-05-26 Thread Paul Ramsey
Two things:

First, at the application level, if you don't get a result from
ST_Intersects() then you know you want to return your default
information.

Second, performance issue. Given the complexity of county boundaries
and the fact that big countries (russia, I'm looking at you) are going
to pop out of the index condition quite frequently, and the fact that
point-in-polygon in geography is still pretty slow, and the fact that
you can split cross-date-line countries into multiple polygons
relatively easily and the fact that no countries actually surround the
poles (I'm not counting antarctica here), you might find that doing
this in geometry works better. The intersection test is way faster
there, and as long as you aren't calculating distances, the simple
true/false results are going to be (mostly mostly) correct.

P.

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Michael Welter  wrote:
> Thanks, Paul,
>
> I have a database of country borders.  If the point lies within a particular 
> border then the query will return country-specific information.  If the point 
> doesn't lie within a border then I would like to return some default 
> information.
>
> Mike
>
> On May 26, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>
>> Nope, there isn't. In fact, such a thing will give us the shakes as
>> our code for determining in/out status  of an object depends on first
>> being able to generate one point that is definitively outside the
>> containing area.  Maybe there is some other way to skin your cat, what
>> is the higher level problem you are trying to solve?
>>
>> P.
>>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Michael Welter  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Using type GEOGRAPHY, is there a polygon such that ST_COVERS(Polygon,Point) 
>>> returns true for every point?  Something like -180˚ to +180˚ longitude and 
>>> -90˚ to +90˚ latitude?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
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Re: [postgis-users] polygon of sphere

2011-05-26 Thread Michael Welter
Thanks, Paul,

I have a database of country borders.  If the point lies within a particular 
border then the query will return country-specific information.  If the point 
doesn't lie within a border then I would like to return some default 
information.

Mike

On May 26, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:

> Nope, there isn't. In fact, such a thing will give us the shakes as
> our code for determining in/out status  of an object depends on first
> being able to generate one point that is definitively outside the
> containing area.  Maybe there is some other way to skin your cat, what
> is the higher level problem you are trying to solve?
> 
> P.
> 
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Michael Welter  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Using type GEOGRAPHY, is there a polygon such that ST_COVERS(Polygon,Point) 
>> returns true for every point?  Something like -180˚ to +180˚ longitude and 
>> -90˚ to +90˚ latitude?
>> 
>> Thanks,
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Re: [postgis-users] New to PostGIS - Simple Question

2011-05-26 Thread Stephen Woodbridge

On 5/26/2011 2:30 PM, SixDegrees wrote:


I'm quite new to GIS in general and PostGIS/Postgres in particular. I have to
write a C/C++ routine to dredge values out of an existing PostGIS-enabled
database. For the most part, this seems straightforward, but I can't figure
out how to access the members of types stored as points.

I'm aware of the ST_X() and ST_Y() SQL functions, but it using these seems
to require two queries. Is it possible to extract the point type into a
C/C++ struct/class with one call to the DB and process the results, or do I
have to make two calls for each point? I can't seem to find a PostGIS API;
does such a thing exist?

A short example would be much appreciated, if possible.

Thank you.


How about something like (untested):

#include 

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
PGconn *dbH;
char *sql;
int res;
char *dbconnect = "host=localhost user=postgres dbname=mydatabase";

dbH = PQconnectdb(dbconnect);
if (PQstatus(dbH) != CONNECTION_OK) {
  //die with message
}

sql = "select st_x(the_geom), st_y(the_geom) from points";
res = PQexec(dbH, sql);
if (PQresultStatus(res) != PGRES_TUPLES_OK) {
  // message no tuples
}
else {
  nRows = PQntuples(res);
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Re: [postgis-users] New to PostGIS - Simple Question

2011-05-26 Thread Peter

I cant help with a C abstraction, of course there will be such a thing, but a 
single query to get both lat and long of a point is:

SELECT ST_X(the_geom), ST_Y(the_geom) FROM mypoints

-- or

SELECT ST_ASTEXT(the_geom) FROM mypoints

-- and parse the returned "POINT(long lat)"

P.



SixDegrees wrote:


I'm quite new to GIS in general and PostGIS/Postgres in particular. I have to
write a C/C++ routine to dredge values out of an existing PostGIS-enabled
database. For the most part, this seems straightforward, but I can't figure
out how to access the members of types stored as points.

I'm aware of the ST_X() and ST_Y() SQL functions, but it using these seems
to require two queries. Is it possible to extract the point type into a
C/C++ struct/class with one call to the DB and process the results, or do I
have to make two calls for each point? I can't seem to find a PostGIS API;
does such a thing exist?

A short example would be much appreciated, if possible.

Thank you.


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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Paul Ramsey
Like so?

http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/attachment/ticket/987/inf2.patch

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Paul Ramsey  wrote:
> I think I'd like to do option (b), leave in the deep check for Inf and
> put upper level checks for Inf in the IsValid* calls. I've put all the
> above code in checks for GEOS_VERSION < 33 so that it'll go dark as we
> move forward. Sound OK?
>
> p.
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 07:26:25PM +0200, Sandro Santilli wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:51:12AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
>>> > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:26:15AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>> > > > Erm, do old versions of IsValid still catch Inf geometries safely?
>>> > >
>>> > > If you have an HEXWKB I can give it a quick try against 3.1.0
>>> >
>>> > 010320E61001000500737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540F07FF07F8F806E993F7E55C0304B29FFEA8554400634E8D1DD424540B5FEE6A37FCD4540737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540
>>>
>>> 3.1.0 was unsupported.
>>> 3.1.2 entered the infinite loop on ST_IsValid.
>>
>> 3.2.3 is good:
>>
>> POSTGIS="2.0.0SVN" GEOS="3.2.3-CAPI-1.6.3" PROJ="Rel. 4.7.1, 23 September 
>> 2009" LIBXML="2.7.6" USE_STATS
>> strk=# select 
>> st_isvalid('010320E61001000500737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540F07FF07F8F806E993F7E55C0304B29FFEA8554400634E8D1DD424540B5FEE6A37FCD4540737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540'::geometry);
>>        NOTICE:  Invalid Coordinate at or near point inf inf
>> f
>>
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Re: [postgis-users] polygon of sphere

2011-05-26 Thread Paul Ramsey
Nope, there isn't. In fact, such a thing will give us the shakes as
our code for determining in/out status  of an object depends on first
being able to generate one point that is definitively outside the
containing area.  Maybe there is some other way to skin your cat, what
is the higher level problem you are trying to solve?

P.

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Michael Welter  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Using type GEOGRAPHY, is there a polygon such that ST_COVERS(Polygon,Point) 
> returns true for every point?  Something like -180˚ to +180˚ longitude and 
> -90˚ to +90˚ latitude?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [postgis-users] New to PostGIS - Simple Question

2011-05-26 Thread Charles Galpin
I think he's asking for

select st_x(pointcol) as x, st_y(pointcol) as y from his_table;

hth
charles

On May 26, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:

> If you have byte-level chops then the most efficient call would be to
> ask for ST_AsBinary(geom) and then handle the well-known-binary byte
> array on your end.  There's some WKB example code in the source repo,
> and also in the MapServer PostGIS connector. But it's a pretty easy
> format.
> 
> P.
> 
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:30 AM, SixDegrees  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm quite new to GIS in general and PostGIS/Postgres in particular. I have to
>> write a C/C++ routine to dredge values out of an existing PostGIS-enabled
>> database. For the most part, this seems straightforward, but I can't figure
>> out how to access the members of types stored as points.
>> 
>> I'm aware of the ST_X() and ST_Y() SQL functions, but it using these seems
>> to require two queries. Is it possible to extract the point type into a
>> C/C++ struct/class with one call to the DB and process the results, or do I
>> have to make two calls for each point? I can't seem to find a PostGIS API;
>> does such a thing exist?
>> 
>> A short example would be much appreciated, if possible.
>> 
>> Thank you.
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Re: [postgis-users] New to PostGIS - Simple Question

2011-05-26 Thread Paul Ramsey
If you have byte-level chops then the most efficient call would be to
ask for ST_AsBinary(geom) and then handle the well-known-binary byte
array on your end.  There's some WKB example code in the source repo,
and also in the MapServer PostGIS connector. But it's a pretty easy
format.

P.

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:30 AM, SixDegrees  wrote:
>
> I'm quite new to GIS in general and PostGIS/Postgres in particular. I have to
> write a C/C++ routine to dredge values out of an existing PostGIS-enabled
> database. For the most part, this seems straightforward, but I can't figure
> out how to access the members of types stored as points.
>
> I'm aware of the ST_X() and ST_Y() SQL functions, but it using these seems
> to require two queries. Is it possible to extract the point type into a
> C/C++ struct/class with one call to the DB and process the results, or do I
> have to make two calls for each point? I can't seem to find a PostGIS API;
> does such a thing exist?
>
> A short example would be much appreciated, if possible.
>
> Thank you.
> --
> View this message in context: 
> http://old.nabble.com/New-to-PostGIS---Simple-Question-tp31710695p31710695.html
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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Paul Ramsey
I think I'd like to do option (b), leave in the deep check for Inf and
put upper level checks for Inf in the IsValid* calls. I've put all the
above code in checks for GEOS_VERSION < 33 so that it'll go dark as we
move forward. Sound OK?

p.

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 07:26:25PM +0200, Sandro Santilli wrote:
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:51:12AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
>> > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:26:15AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>> > > > Erm, do old versions of IsValid still catch Inf geometries safely?
>> > >
>> > > If you have an HEXWKB I can give it a quick try against 3.1.0
>> >
>> > 010320E61001000500737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540F07FF07F8F806E993F7E55C0304B29FFEA8554400634E8D1DD424540B5FEE6A37FCD4540737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540
>>
>> 3.1.0 was unsupported.
>> 3.1.2 entered the infinite loop on ST_IsValid.
>
> 3.2.3 is good:
>
> POSTGIS="2.0.0SVN" GEOS="3.2.3-CAPI-1.6.3" PROJ="Rel. 4.7.1, 23 September 
> 2009" LIBXML="2.7.6" USE_STATS
> strk=# select 
> st_isvalid('010320E61001000500737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540F07FF07F8F806E993F7E55C0304B29FFEA8554400634E8D1DD424540B5FEE6A37FCD4540737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540'::geometry);
>        NOTICE:  Invalid Coordinate at or near point inf inf
> f
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[postgis-users] New to PostGIS - Simple Question

2011-05-26 Thread SixDegrees

I'm quite new to GIS in general and PostGIS/Postgres in particular. I have to
write a C/C++ routine to dredge values out of an existing PostGIS-enabled
database. For the most part, this seems straightforward, but I can't figure
out how to access the members of types stored as points.

I'm aware of the ST_X() and ST_Y() SQL functions, but it using these seems
to require two queries. Is it possible to extract the point type into a
C/C++ struct/class with one call to the DB and process the results, or do I
have to make two calls for each point? I can't seem to find a PostGIS API;
does such a thing exist?

A short example would be much appreciated, if possible.

Thank you.
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[postgis-users] polygon of sphere

2011-05-26 Thread Michael Welter
Hello,

Using type GEOGRAPHY, is there a polygon such that ST_COVERS(Polygon,Point) 
returns true for every point?  Something like -180˚ to +180˚ longitude and -90˚ 
to +90˚ latitude?

Thanks,

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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 07:26:25PM +0200, Sandro Santilli wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:51:12AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:26:15AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
> > > > Erm, do old versions of IsValid still catch Inf geometries safely?
> > >
> > > If you have an HEXWKB I can give it a quick try against 3.1.0
> >
> > 010320E61001000500737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540F07FF07F8F806E993F7E55C0304B29FFEA8554400634E8D1DD424540B5FEE6A37FCD4540737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540
> 
> 3.1.0 was unsupported.
> 3.1.2 entered the infinite loop on ST_IsValid.

3.2.3 is good:

POSTGIS="2.0.0SVN" GEOS="3.2.3-CAPI-1.6.3" PROJ="Rel. 4.7.1, 23 September 2009" 
LIBXML="2.7.6" USE_STATS
strk=# select 
st_isvalid('010320E61001000500737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540F07FF07F8F806E993F7E55C0304B29FFEA8554400634E8D1DD424540B5FEE6A37FCD4540737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540'::geometry);
   NOTICE:  Invalid Coordinate at or near point inf inf
f

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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:51:12AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:26:15AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
> > > Erm, do old versions of IsValid still catch Inf geometries safely?
> >
> > If you have an HEXWKB I can give it a quick try against 3.1.0
>
> 010320E61001000500737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540F07FF07F8F806E993F7E55C0304B29FFEA8554400634E8D1DD424540B5FEE6A37FCD4540737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540

3.1.0 was unsupported.
3.1.2 entered the infinite loop on ST_IsValid.

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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Paul Ramsey
010320E61001000500737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540F07FF07F8F806E993F7E55C0304B29FFEA8554400634E8D1DD424540B5FEE6A37FCD4540737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540



On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:26:15AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>> Erm, do old versions of IsValid still catch Inf geometries safely?
>
> Not sure, worth testing.
> If you have an HEXWKB I can give it a quick try against 3.1.0
>
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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:26:15AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
> Erm, do old versions of IsValid still catch Inf geometries safely?

Not sure, worth testing.
If you have an HEXWKB I can give it a quick try against 3.1.0

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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Paul Ramsey
Erm, do old versions of IsValid still catch Inf geometries safely?

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 08:12:19AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>> OK then either
>> (a) we test for Inf boxes at the head of each GEOS function we care
>> about protecting (and not IsValid* functions)
>> (b) we put a pre-test in the IsValid* functions to check for Inf boxes
>> Preferences?
>
> I like (a) more, done by a function, and only if GEOS version is < 3.3.0.
>
> This is because we might one day have the current ST_MakeValid function
> move down to GEOS and also handle inf/nan somehow.
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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 08:12:19AM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
> OK then either
> (a) we test for Inf boxes at the head of each GEOS function we care
> about protecting (and not IsValid* functions)
> (b) we put a pre-test in the IsValid* functions to check for Inf boxes
> Preferences?

I like (a) more, done by a function, and only if GEOS version is < 3.3.0.

This is because we might one day have the current ST_MakeValid function
move down to GEOS and also handle inf/nan somehow.

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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Magnus Hagander
With the disclaimer of not having looked at the code, I like (b). I
assume you mean that in the path of isvalid*, we pick up the same
check and return the proper thing. But we still keep the check you put
in with your patch, so that if we enter them some other way, or if the
test in isvalid* goes wrong for some reason, we'll still get the
exception.

I like the general idea of doing it deep down to make sure there's no
codepath being missed.

//Magnus

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 17:12, Paul Ramsey  wrote:
> OK then either
> (a) we test for Inf boxes at the head of each GEOS function we care
> about protecting (and not IsValid* functions)
> (b) we put a pre-test in the IsValid* functions to check for Inf boxes
> Preferences?
> P.
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Magnus Hagander  wrote:
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 16:20, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:16:59PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 16:15, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
 > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:09:27PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
 >> Hi!
 >>
 >> Yup, it does appear to solve the problem for at least my limited test
 >> case. I now get:
 >> ERROR:  Infinite coordinate value found in geometry.
 >> CONTEXT:  SQL function "st_intersects" statement 1
 >>
 >> as expected.
 >>
 >> Glad to see you found a better place :-)
 >
 > Could you please also try ST_IsValid, ST_IsValidReason and
 > ST_IsValidDetail against the table containing the offensive
 > geometry ?

 It's not actually in a table, the offensive geometry was generated by
 the app as the other side. Tha tmakes it even easier to check - both
 cases return:

 ERROR:  Infinite coordinate value found in geometry.
>>>
>>> My point is that ST_IsValid and friends should return validity information,
>>> not throw an exception. By throwing an exception you don't get any other
>>> result, so can't check the validity of multiple geometries at once.
>>
>> In that case, the patch is wrong, because it does return an exception.
>>
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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Paul Ramsey
OK then either
(a) we test for Inf boxes at the head of each GEOS function we care
about protecting (and not IsValid* functions)
(b) we put a pre-test in the IsValid* functions to check for Inf boxes
Preferences?
P.

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Magnus Hagander  wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 16:20, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:16:59PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 16:15, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
>>> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:09:27PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>> >> Hi!
>>> >>
>>> >> Yup, it does appear to solve the problem for at least my limited test
>>> >> case. I now get:
>>> >> ERROR:  Infinite coordinate value found in geometry.
>>> >> CONTEXT:  SQL function "st_intersects" statement 1
>>> >>
>>> >> as expected.
>>> >>
>>> >> Glad to see you found a better place :-)
>>> >
>>> > Could you please also try ST_IsValid, ST_IsValidReason and
>>> > ST_IsValidDetail against the table containing the offensive
>>> > geometry ?
>>>
>>> It's not actually in a table, the offensive geometry was generated by
>>> the app as the other side. Tha tmakes it even easier to check - both
>>> cases return:
>>>
>>> ERROR:  Infinite coordinate value found in geometry.
>>
>> My point is that ST_IsValid and friends should return validity information,
>> not throw an exception. By throwing an exception you don't get any other
>> result, so can't check the validity of multiple geometries at once.
>
> In that case, the patch is wrong, because it does return an exception.
>
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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 16:20, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:16:59PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 16:15, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:09:27PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> >> Hi!
>> >>
>> >> Yup, it does appear to solve the problem for at least my limited test
>> >> case. I now get:
>> >> ERROR:  Infinite coordinate value found in geometry.
>> >> CONTEXT:  SQL function "st_intersects" statement 1
>> >>
>> >> as expected.
>> >>
>> >> Glad to see you found a better place :-)
>> >
>> > Could you please also try ST_IsValid, ST_IsValidReason and
>> > ST_IsValidDetail against the table containing the offensive
>> > geometry ?
>>
>> It's not actually in a table, the offensive geometry was generated by
>> the app as the other side. Tha tmakes it even easier to check - both
>> cases return:
>>
>> ERROR:  Infinite coordinate value found in geometry.
>
> My point is that ST_IsValid and friends should return validity information,
> not throw an exception. By throwing an exception you don't get any other
> result, so can't check the validity of multiple geometries at once.

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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:16:59PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 16:15, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:09:27PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> Yup, it does appear to solve the problem for at least my limited test
> >> case. I now get:
> >> ERROR:  Infinite coordinate value found in geometry.
> >> CONTEXT:  SQL function "st_intersects" statement 1
> >>
> >> as expected.
> >>
> >> Glad to see you found a better place :-)
> >
> > Could you please also try ST_IsValid, ST_IsValidReason and
> > ST_IsValidDetail against the table containing the offensive
> > geometry ?
> 
> It's not actually in a table, the offensive geometry was generated by
> the app as the other side. Tha tmakes it even easier to check - both
> cases return:
> 
> ERROR:  Infinite coordinate value found in geometry.

My point is that ST_IsValid and friends should return validity information,
not throw an exception. By throwing an exception you don't get any other
result, so can't check the validity of multiple geometries at once.

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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 16:15, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:09:27PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Yup, it does appear to solve the problem for at least my limited test
>> case. I now get:
>> ERROR:  Infinite coordinate value found in geometry.
>> CONTEXT:  SQL function "st_intersects" statement 1
>>
>> as expected.
>>
>> Glad to see you found a better place :-)
>
> Could you please also try ST_IsValid, ST_IsValidReason and
> ST_IsValidDetail against the table containing the offensive
> geometry ?

It's not actually in a table, the offensive geometry was generated by
the app as the other side. Tha tmakes it even easier to check - both
cases return:

ERROR:  Infinite coordinate value found in geometry.


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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:09:27PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Yup, it does appear to solve the problem for at least my limited test
> case. I now get:
> ERROR:  Infinite coordinate value found in geometry.
> CONTEXT:  SQL function "st_intersects" statement 1
> 
> as expected.
> 
> Glad to see you found a better place :-)

Could you please also try ST_IsValid, ST_IsValidReason and
ST_IsValidDetail against the table containing the offensive
geometry ?

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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-05-26 Thread Magnus Hagander
Hi!

Yup, it does appear to solve the problem for at least my limited test
case. I now get:
ERROR:  Infinite coordinate value found in geometry.
CONTEXT:  SQL function "st_intersects" statement 1

as expected.

Glad to see you found a better place :-)

//Magnus

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 21:11, Paul Ramsey  wrote:
> Magnus,
> We've decided to go with Inf testing, but I've move the test lower
> down into the GEOS handling code so it applies to all GEOS operations,
> not just Intersects().
>
> http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/ticket/987
>
> See if that still works for you, hopefully it should (just tested with
> your test geometry)
>
> P.
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Magnus Hagander  wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Running the following query locks up postgis completely (in
>> geos::algorithm::RobustDeterminant):
>>
>> SELECT st_intersects(somegeometry,
>> '010320E61001000500737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540F07FF07F8F806E993F7E55C0304B29FFEA8554400634E8D1DD424540B5FEE6A37FCD4540737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540'::geometry)
>>
>> I believe this is because there are infinite values in that geometry:
>>
>> # select 
>> ST_AsText('010320E61001000500737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540F07FF07F8F806E993F7E55C0304B29FFEA8554400634E8D1DD424540B5FEE6A37FCD4540737979F3DDCC2CC0F92154F9E7534540'::geometry);
>>
>>  st_astext
>> ---
>>  POLYGON((-14.4001308522972 42.6555167828373,inf inf,-85.9726317957995
>> 82.0924680617579,42.5223944076352 43.6054577711015,-14.4001308522972
>> 42.6555167828373))
>> (1 row)
>>
>>
>> ISTM that this should either be rejected as an invalid geometry, or at
>> least not hang
>>
>>
>> Now, this geometry actually comes back as the result of st_transform,
>> which suggests to me that there is *also* a bug in st_transform, which
>> should never output an invalid geometry. It is the result of:
>>
>> st_transform('010320CD0B0100050099E6673CA2FC2DC1AD7BF5ED45CC534199E6673CA2FC2DC1D7BDFAF6D28960415A06E670D7E94B41D7BDFAF6D28960415A06E670D7E94B41AD7BF5ED45CC534199E6673CA2FC2DC1AD7BF5ED45CC5341',
>> 4326)
>>
>> And that geometry is valid before it goes into st_transform, from what
>> I can tell:
>> # select 
>> st_astext('010320CD0B0100050099E6673CA2FC2DC1AD7BF5ED45CC534199E6673CA2FC2DC1D7BDFAF6D28960415A06E670D7E94B41D7BDFAF6D28960415A06E670D7E94B41AD7BF5ED45CC534199E6673CA2FC2DC1AD7BF5ED45CC5341'::geometry);
>>
>>        st_astext
>>
>> --
>> --
>>  POLYGON((-982609.1179802 5189911.7181081,-982609.1179802
>> 8670871.7181081,3658670.8820198 8670871.7181081,3658670.8820198
>> 5189911.
>> 7181081,-982609.1179802 5189911.7181081))
>> (1 row)
>>
>>
>>
>> To me this looks like bugs "below" postgis - it's certainly below the
>> PostgreSQL level that I know well :-) Not sure if it can be worked
>> around/fixed at the postgis level or if it needs to be done in the
>> lower level libraries, but either way it shouldn't behave this way :-)
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Re: [postgis-users] long geometries aren't display on pgAdmin (Windows 7, 64bit)

2011-05-26 Thread Barend Köbben
Hi,

It's just PgAdmin not displaying properly, there is actually a value in
the geom column. Try  SELECT ST_IsValid(the_geom) or similar and you'll
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On 26-05-11 09:41, "toni hernández"  wrote:

>hi,
>
>I already tried with psql without any luck. ;-(
>
>Let me explain the issue again  with one example.
>When I load a sql, like the one below, on pgAdmin, authomatically the
>geometry disappears from the screen.
>But only when the geometry is 'too' long.
>
>The insert seems to work fine but only for the columns rec_num and
>data_value. The_Geom column is always empty, even when executing the SQL
>file from psql.
>Example:
>
>SET CLIENT_ENCODING TO UTF8;
>SET STANDARD_CONFORMING_STRINGS TO ON;
>BEGIN;
>CREATE TABLE "kirklees" (gid serial PRIMARY KEY,
>"rec_num" numeric,
>"data_value" numeric);
>SELECT AddGeometryColumn('','kirklees','the_geom','-1','MULTIPOLYGON',2);
>INSERT INTO "kirklees" ("rec_num","data_value",the_geom) VALUES
>('1','1','01060001000103000100D30350141941
>3094184150141941A0921841100E1941A09218
>41100E194130941841800C194130941841
>800C1941C0951841100E1941C0951841100E194100
>0050971841800C194150971841800C1941709A
>1841F00A1941709A1841F00A1941009C184100
>00D0071941009C1841D0071941909D1841B00419
>...
>
>Yves Jacolin wrote:
>> Le jeudi 26 mai 2011 08:28:32, toni hernández a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I amb holding a postgresql+postgis course on www.unigis.es
>>> Some of our students have experienced some problems when importing shp.
>>> These students are running postgresql 32 bit on a Windows7 64 bit
>>>platform.
>>> I have run the same import with a windows 7, 64bit but haven't
>>> encountered any problems.
>>>
>>> The shp2pgsql seems to be working fine (the output looks good) but when
>>> loading the SQL file from pgAdmin some geometries aren't displayed.
>>> I think the longest geometries (not very long indeed) are the ones that
>>> are not displayed.
>>>
>>> Any ideas about what's happening?
>>>
>>> thanks in advance.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Toni,
>>
>> I am not sure to have understood your issue, but I know that PgAdmin
>>have some
>> difficulties to display values of geometry field. If you check it via
>>psql you'll
>> see that all geometry values are in the table.
>>
>> Y.
>>
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Re: [postgis-users] AddGeometryColumn

2011-05-26 Thread Ben Madin
Vittoriano,


Try it 
without the empty '' for the schema (or specify the schema - probably 
'public'), 

and 
the SRID should be an integer.

SELECT AddGeometryColumn('particelle','the_geom',3003,'MULTIPOLYGON',2);

might work.

(Assuming that you have loaded the postgis.sql functions into your database 
first?)

cheers

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On 26/05/2011, at 4:37 PM, vittoriano.aure...@libero.it wrote:

> PostgreSQL 9.0
> PostGIS 1.5
> 
> 
> what is my problem?
> 
> 
> SET CLIENT_ENCODING TO UTF8;
> SET STANDARD_CONFORMING_STRINGS TO ON;
> BEGIN;
> CREATE TABLE "particelle" (gid serial PRIMARY KEY,
> "comune" varchar(4),
> "sezione" varchar(1),
> "foglio" varchar(4),
> "allegato" varchar(1),
> "sviluppo" varchar(1),
> "numero" varchar(9),
> "livello" varchar(11));
> SELECT AddGeometryColumn('','particelle','the_geom','3003','MULTIPOLYGON',2);
> 
> 
> 
> NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE will create implicit sequence "particelle_gid_seq" for 
> serial column "particelle.gid"
> NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE / PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index 
> "particelle_pkey" for table "particelle"
> ERROR:  function addgeometrycolumn(unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, 
> unknown, integer) does not exist
> LINE 12: SELECT AddGeometryColumn('','particelle','the_geom','3003','...
>^
> HINT:  No function matches the given name and argument types. You might need 
> to add explicit type casts.
> 
> ** Error **
> 
> ERROR: function addgeometrycolumn(unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, 
> unknown, 
> integer) does not exist
> SQL state: 42883
> Hint: No function matches the given name and argument types. You might need 
> to 
> add explicit type casts.
> Character: 289
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [postgis-users] AddGeometryColumn

2011-05-26 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:37:49AM +0200, vittoriano.aure...@libero.it wrote:
> PostgreSQL 9.0
> PostGIS 1.5
> 
> what is my problem?

> LINE 12: SELECT AddGeometryColumn('','particelle','the_geom','3003','...
> ^

The function was renamed to ST_AddGeometryColumn.
You can get the old name using the postgis/legacy.sql but you'd
better change the script to use the new syntax.

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[postgis-users] AddGeometryColumn

2011-05-26 Thread vittoriano.aure...@libero.it
PostgreSQL 9.0
PostGIS 1.5


what is my problem?


SET CLIENT_ENCODING TO UTF8;
SET STANDARD_CONFORMING_STRINGS TO ON;
BEGIN;
CREATE TABLE "particelle" (gid serial PRIMARY KEY,
"comune" varchar(4),
"sezione" varchar(1),
"foglio" varchar(4),
"allegato" varchar(1),
"sviluppo" varchar(1),
"numero" varchar(9),
"livello" varchar(11));
SELECT AddGeometryColumn('','particelle','the_geom','3003','MULTIPOLYGON',2);



NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE will create implicit sequence "particelle_gid_seq" for 
serial column "particelle.gid"
NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE / PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index 
"particelle_pkey" for table "particelle"
ERROR:  function addgeometrycolumn(unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, 
unknown, integer) does not exist
LINE 12: SELECT AddGeometryColumn('','particelle','the_geom','3003','...
^
HINT:  No function matches the given name and argument types. You might need 
to add explicit type casts.

** Error **

ERROR: function addgeometrycolumn(unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, 
integer) does not exist
SQL state: 42883
Hint: No function matches the given name and argument types. You might need to 
add explicit type casts.
Character: 289


best regards


Vittoriano Aurelio
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Re: [postgis-users] long geometries aren't display on pgAdmin (Windows 7, 64bit)

2011-05-26 Thread toni hernández

hi,

I already tried with psql without any luck. ;-(

Let me explain the issue again  with one example.
When I load a sql, like the one below, on pgAdmin, authomatically the 
geometry disappears from the screen.

But only when the geometry is 'too' long.

The insert seems to work fine but only for the columns rec_num and 
data_value. The_Geom column is always empty, even when executing the SQL 
file from psql.

Example:

SET CLIENT_ENCODING TO UTF8;
SET STANDARD_CONFORMING_STRINGS TO ON;
BEGIN;
CREATE TABLE "kirklees" (gid serial PRIMARY KEY,
"rec_num" numeric,
"data_value" numeric);
SELECT AddGeometryColumn('','kirklees','the_geom','-1','MULTIPOLYGON',2);
INSERT INTO "kirklees" ("rec_num","data_value",the_geom) VALUES 
('1','1','01060001000103000100D303501419413094184150141941A0921841100E1941A0921841100E194130941841800C194130941841800C1941C0951841100E1941C0951841100E194150971841800C194150971841800C1941709A1841F00A1941709A1841F00A1941009C1841D0071941009C1841D0071941909D1841B00419

...

Yves Jacolin wrote:

Le jeudi 26 mai 2011 08:28:32, toni hernández a écrit :
  

Hi,

I amb holding a postgresql+postgis course on www.unigis.es
Some of our students have experienced some problems when importing shp.
These students are running postgresql 32 bit on a Windows7 64 bit platform.
I have run the same import with a windows 7, 64bit but haven't
encountered any problems.

The shp2pgsql seems to be working fine (the output looks good) but when
loading the SQL file from pgAdmin some geometries aren't displayed.
I think the longest geometries (not very long indeed) are the ones that
are not displayed.

Any ideas about what's happening?

thanks in advance.



Hi Toni,

I am not sure to have understood your issue, but I know that PgAdmin have some 
difficulties to display values of geometry field. If you check it via psql you'll 
see that all geometry values are in the table.


Y.
  

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Re: [postgis-users] long geometries aren't display on pgAdmin (Windows 7, 64bit)

2011-05-26 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 08:28:32AM +0200, toni hernández wrote:

> These students are running postgresql 32 bit on a Windows7 64 bit platform.

Teach quality. They'll stop.

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Re: [postgis-users] long geometries aren't display on pgAdmin (Windows 7, 64bit)

2011-05-26 Thread Yves Jacolin
Le jeudi 26 mai 2011 08:28:32, toni hernández a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I amb holding a postgresql+postgis course on www.unigis.es
> Some of our students have experienced some problems when importing shp.
> These students are running postgresql 32 bit on a Windows7 64 bit platform.
> I have run the same import with a windows 7, 64bit but haven't
> encountered any problems.
> 
> The shp2pgsql seems to be working fine (the output looks good) but when
> loading the SQL file from pgAdmin some geometries aren't displayed.
> I think the longest geometries (not very long indeed) are the ones that
> are not displayed.
> 
> Any ideas about what's happening?
> 
> thanks in advance.

Hi Toni,

I am not sure to have understood your issue, but I know that PgAdmin have some 
difficulties to display values of geometry field. If you check it via psql 
you'll 
see that all geometry values are in the table.

Y.
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