Re: Woo hoo!!!!

[PeterH5322]

In a message dated 9/11/02 8:51:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
... It's interesting seeing an AMD IC on that board (U20).  I wonder what 
that does ...
>>

SCSI ... AMD made these before they ran afoul of NCR and its patents on the 
integrated SCSI controller chip.


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Re: Introduction and Question. :)

[Jim Arnott]

Good price. Watch out for D.E.A.D. batteries though.  These machines 
have been around for a long time and there are more deaders than live 
ones out there.

Jim

K.L. Shelly wrote:
>   I should correct - under $10 /apiece/ for both. Sorry. :)
> 
> 
>   Kathryn L. Shelly - Kate
>   MHC Class of '03
> 
>   "Now you see why evil will always triumph. Because good is dumb."
> 
> 
> 



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Re: Re 1400 memory

[Cameron Kaiser]

> How did you get the 3com e-net card to work? I didn't think there was any
> Mac drivers for it.

There aren't. However, the Farallon drivers will work if suitably modified,
since they're just rebadged 3C589 cards.

http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/mac/enet3c589/

I'd be interested in hearing how well they work for others. Mine has
been flawless.

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Re 1400 memory

[John McG]

How did you get the 3com e-net card to work? I didn't think there was any
Mac drivers for it.

John

P.S. I love my PB1400 with the G3 upgrade. Its a nice little machine
definitely the best x-mas present I got in a long while!!!

> The upgrade path on my 1400cs/117 was 1) a new screen, making it a "1400c"
> 2) upgrading the RAM from 12MB to 60MB 3) installing a videocard to allow
> it to drive an external monitor 4) upgrading the CPU from a 117MHz 603 to a
> 333MHz G3 5) installing a Best Data PC Card 56K modem and a 3Com EtherLink
> III Ethernet card 6) upgrading the OS to 9.1 7) new NiMH battery. Total cost
> was around $550, and worth every penny; this 1400 has been a very tough
> road warrior, and for six weeks when I was on an away rotation, it sufficed
> as my "desktop" as well.

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Re: Woo hoo!!!!

[Andrew Kershaw]

Ok, I ran some tests in MacBench 5.  The results are on my 
website: 

Any speed differences between the overclocked CS motherboard and the 
standard CE motherboard are probably coincidental.  As you can tell, 
the specs are almost exactly what you would expect and are very 
similar to the performance of a PowerBook 1400/117.  ;-)  Next up: 
changing the bus speed Soon as I get around to ordering the parts 
from Digi-Key

Mad Dog:  The VRAM chip on my 5300cs says:

TI   -70
TMS55165DGH
HD 58A72AC P
 
At least, that's what's printed on the IC that I think is the 512K of 
VRAM. It's at position U10 on the bottom of the mobo...  Any idea 
where the MMU is on this machine?  These 603e's didn't have integrated 
memory controllers, did they?  There's a monster TI chip under the 
603e - that's not a 3rd party MMU, is it?

The Whitney (U12) chip controls IDE, right?
That ITT (U6) chip does the ATA/IDE expansion (media bay) I think...
The T-Rex (U24) IC should be the PCMCIA controller
And I don't know what the rest of the stuff does... Can't find the 
"singer" chip (which controls audio)...  It's interesting seeing an 
AMD IC on that board (U20).  I wonder what that does?

Peace out,
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Re: Introduction and Question. :)

[K.L. Shelly]

I should correct - under $10 /apiece/ for both. Sorry. :)


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Introduction and Question. :)

[K.L. Shelly]

Hi. I'm a college student with an IBM PC for primary work, but I
picked up a lonely little PowerBook 140 at the Salvation Army (where I
work) for $15. Everything works fine, except - it doesn't have a battery,
and can only be used on AC.
Seeing as I don't handwrite due to a disability, and I didn't want
to take the /real/ laptop on the bus, I figured a bus-durable second
laptop that did word processing perfectly (even if it couldn't, in
comparison, do much more) would be good to have.
However, it needs a battery to fulfill that purpose, as well as a
battery charger. Is under $10 for both on E-Bay a fair price for both? I'm
working without a net here - I was 9 when this machine came out, so I've
no idea with regard to prices.
Thanks in advance. :)


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Duo 280 screen on a 230/250 logic board

[Dan K]

OK, I just tried the 280 screen on a 230/250 LB (using the 250 cable of 
course) and it also worked just dandy. Now to try a 2300 screen on a 280 
. . . yeah, I know it's not supposed to work, but since I've got 'em all 
apart anyway . . .

Heck, any other requests while I've got this pile of parts? Sadly, I 
don't have any 270s so can't toss any of those into the blender.  : >)

Thought y'all should know,

Dan K

PS: Damn, did I mention how much I _love_ Ambroid Pro-Weld? Hot damn I 
love that stuff. First my PB500s, now all my Duos are repaired, c'mon, 
bring on more cracked and broken PBs, baby!!! Oh yeah!

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Re: trackpad button

[Darren Brocklebank]

--- Peter Johnsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi
> 
> My trackpad button on my 3400 is out of order. It
> works if I press it
> carefully at its innermost point (closest to the
> trackpad). I can of course
> use an external mouse or the click and drag function
> of the trackpad but
> its still bothering me. Is it worth wile to take it
> apart and try to fix
> it? 
Have been away so am way out of date on your post -
did you get a fix?
I have 2 - PB3400 that are used by kids playing games
and the button has been broken several times.
Used various glues but none lastest until I used Epoxy
glue.
No problems since


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Re: 1400c RAM expansion

[Dan K]

Sigh, all of the 24MB modules I have remaining are the same, PCB, chips, 
markings, etc. The few I had that were different apparently weren't as 
far out of spec as these must be since those are the modules that never 
got returned.  Sigh . . .

I did read all that devnote stuff over again and maybe there _is_ hope. I 
need to trace out some of the referenced RAS lines and see if the 
possibility of adding the suggested resistors exists. Not likely but I'll 
get around to investigating it one day soon.

On a lighter note, my second 167mhz (thanks Paul!) PB540c is now an 
iTunes internet radio tuner and LAN mp3 player, and sometime inet 
browsing appliance. PB500 sound output is quite good actually and using 
os9.1 and 40MBs of ram it works quite well. Too bad I can't get iTunes 2 
to run, but since I don't even know what advantage v2 has over v1 I guess 
I really don't care as long as v1 works.

Dan K

On 9/11/02 Paul Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>At 5:13 PM -0400 9/11/02, Dan K wrote:
>>I've had my eye on this thread and other similar threads in the past
>>because I've got more than 80 (!!) 24MB ram modules I'm unable to sell
>>until I can figure out why they don't work in some 1400s, but _do_ work
>>fine in others _and_ how to fix it.
>
>Hi, Dan,
>   It occurred to me that if they aren't all the same brand, that some
>pairs may work and others not?  This is probably too simple, but I've heard
>of incompatibility between some 24's and others.  How's the PPC 540C
>working out>
>Paul

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Re: Need help with dead 520c

[Ed Vaeth \(Surfbest\)]

If you need repair,  I can help you.

CompUSA is a no-no for all things MAC other than software perhaps.

Check my Ebay ID sc-computer-inc.  I refurbish 500 series systems
professionally and have any part you could imagine for it.
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From: "Scott Holder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Need help with dead 520c


First thing to try is to remove all power sources and let it sit awhile.

Failing that, reset the power manager with all power removed.

As for CompUSA, yes, they might could fix it. But, you could probably
get a whole new 520c what they'd want to charge. Probably even a 33mhz
upgrade to go alone with it.

Scott Holder

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André Rüegg
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:29 PM
To: PowerBooks
Subject: Need help with dead 520c


My trusty old 520c, which has been upgraded with a Newer PowerPC upgrade
card and a 540c screen, has suddenly decided to play dead. It does
nothing. The batteries seem to be charged. The power supply seems to be
providing power. I pulled the hard drive and it worked fine in an
external case (I retrieved my data). But when I hit the power button it
just sits there.

When I had the case open I made sure that everything seemed to be seated
properly on the boards. Any suggestions?

I noticed that the local (45 miles away) CompUSA store advertises that
they can repair any type of computer. Would this be a safe alternative?
Any recommendation for other repair options?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Wanting his Blackbird to fly again,

Andre


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Re: OT QuickBooks vs MYOB

[Darren Brocklebank]

--- Cliff Rediger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OT question. 
> 
> Can anyone verse me in a feature comparison between
> QuickBooks and MYOB
> accounting software.  

I've been away and never had a chance to check mail
but I don't see any replies to your long ago post -
several years ago I asked the Society I do volunteer
work with to purchase MYOB (we were using a Performa
580CD at the time (donated equipment) and I had
nothing but problems with it.
I started using Quicken - packed with my various new
Macs over the years - I'm up to Quicken 2000 - and
have had no problems using it on various Macs - 3400 -
5300 - 8600 - 7300 & 7500 and downloading stuff from
the bank etc. All transfered between machines using
from OS8.5 to 9.2
As for Quickbooks I have no personal experience but if
Intuit's "free" cheapy is any indication I'd vote for
Quickbooks over MYOB any day.
PS - do you want an old version of MYOB on floppies -
it's been doing nothing for years.


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Re: 3400 users!

[Tom Roth]

> --
> From: Dan K
> Subject:  Re: 3400 users!
> 
> I managed to stuff a FW card into my non-cardbus caged 3400, but it does 
> me little good as the darn PB will run only OS 8.1.
> 
Why's that?  I've typing this on a 3400 right now and it running OS 9.1.


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sorry~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[alan_oneil]

WHOA!!! sorry to all list readers! my email system was 
giving me a "mail not sent" error, so i tried again... 
and again...

sorry.

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Re: Powerbook 100 problems

[alan_oneil]

SORRY IN ADVANCE FOR A LONG POST.
hi all and thanks for the great input about my dying 
pb100. to clarify, i have gotten it to successfully 
boot using an ext. floppy in the past, but using every 
SCSI tool i could get my hands on (silverlining, apple 
hd sc setup, scsi probe, etc), all i could see was the 
firmware (a conner 20M). the drive would spin up and 
click audibly, but not in the normal fashion. instead 
of rapid short clicking, it would do something like 
this:
_CLICK_ CLICK CLIck CLick Click click click click click 
click click click. (loud at first then gradually fading 
out, about a dozen clicks total. then it would pause 
for a sec and try again, a few times before giving up)
BUT IT GETS BETTER!!! I recently went overseas to 
Korea, which uses the 220V standard (i live in USA) 
that the pb100 power supply supports (because as 100 
users should know the lifetime of a leadacid battery is 
terrible). I brought the pb100 along just for fun, as i 
had some b&w games on a floppy.
Lo and behold, when i plug it in and press any key, the 
startup disk is given back to me and the pb boots into 
sys 7! (i was using 6.0.8L on a floppy for its mini 
footprint). the HD was somehow revitalized!!! but the 
FD went kaput.
it would make little or no "grinding" noises that are 
akin to reading floppies. and when a disk was inserted, 
the pb would tell me it was not initialized. when i 
would try to initialize it, one of two things would 
happen: either the init would fail and the floppy would 
come back out, or the screen would go dim (not 
completely dim, and the brightness knob was able to 
turn it below that), and the pb would reboot itself.
my theory is that there is a short inside the fd that 
is suddenly draining WAY too much power from the pb, 
causing it to suddenly dim and reboot.
NOW HERE'S THE HARD PART: I came back to the USA very 
confused. when i got home, the FD still did not work, 
but guess what? neither did the HD. it made the same 
noises as before i left the country.

to the offer of the parts-only pb100: what exactly is 
working on the pb100, and where are you for shipping? 
(i'm in 98092: seattle-tacoma area)

to loyal pb100-er's: any similar problems? i know 
you're all trying the best, but i think that your 
diagnosis(es?) are wrong :-( could it maybe be my power 
supply?

to any other people who might read my post: should i 
just give it up and buy a used ppc powerbook? i know 
the 100 is the smallest of all pb's until (i think) the 
ibook 12.1". i want to try to get this one running 
again before i fashion a battery mount to replace the 
thoroughly dead lead-acid.


thanks to all,
alan
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Re: Powerbook 100 problems

[alan_oneil]

SORRY IN ADVANCE FOR A LONG POST.
hi all and thanks for the great input about my dying 
pb100. to clarify, i have gotten it to successfully 
boot using an ext. floppy in the past, but using every 
SCSI tool i could get my hands on (silverlining, apple 
hd sc setup, scsi probe, etc), all i could see was the 
firmware (a conner 20M). the drive would spin up and 
click audibly, but not in the normal fashion. instead 
of rapid short clicking, it would do something like 
this:
_CLICK_ CLICK CLIck CLick Click click click click click 
click click click. (loud at first then gradually fading 
out, about a dozen clicks total. then it would pause 
for a sec and try again, a few times before giving up)
BUT IT GETS BETTER!!! I recently went overseas to 
Korea, which uses the 220V standard (i live in USA) 
that the pb100 power supply supports (because as 100 
users should know the lifetime of a leadacid battery is 
terrible). I brought the pb100 along just for fun, as i 
had some b&w games on a floppy.
Lo and behold, when i plug it in and press any key, the 
startup disk is given back to me and the pb boots into 
sys 7! (i was using 6.0.8L on a floppy for its mini 
footprint). the HD was somehow revitalized!!! but the 
FD went kaput.
it would make little or no "grinding" noises that are 
akin to reading floppies. and when a disk was inserted, 
the pb would tell me it was not initialized. when i 
would try to initialize it, one of two things would 
happen: either the init would fail and the floppy would 
come back out, or the screen would go dim (not 
completely dim, and the brightness knob was able to 
turn it below that), and the pb would reboot itself.
my theory is that there is a short inside the fd that 
is suddenly draining WAY too much power from the pb, 
causing it to suddenly dim and reboot.
NOW HERE'S THE HARD PART: I came back to the USA very 
confused. when i got home, the FD still did not work, 
but guess what? neither did the HD. it made the same 
noises as before i left the country.

to the offer of the parts-only pb100: what exactly is 
working on the pb100, and where are you for shipping? 
(i'm in 98092: seattle-tacoma area)

to loyal pb100-er's: any similar problems? i know 
you're all trying the best, but i think that your 
diagnosis(es?) are wrong :-( could it maybe be my power 
supply?

to any other people who might read my post: should i 
just give it up and buy a used ppc powerbook? i know 
the 100 is the smallest of all pb's until (i think) the 
ibook 12.1". i want to try to get this one running 
again before i fashion a battery mount to replace the 
thoroughly dead lead-acid.


thanks to all,
alan
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powerbook 100 problems

[alan_oneil]

SORRY IN ADVANCE FOR A LONG POST.
hi all and thanks for the great input about my dying 
pb100. to clarify, i have gotten it to successfully 
boot using an ext. floppy in the past, but using every 
SCSI tool i could get my hands on (silverlining, apple 
hd sc setup, scsi probe, etc), all i could see was the 
firmware (a conner 20M). the drive would spin up and 
click audibly, but not in the normal fashion. instead 
of rapid short clicking, it would do something like 
this:
_CLICK_ CLICK CLIck CLick Click click click click click 
click click click. (loud at first then gradually fading 
out, about a dozen clicks total. then it would pause 
for a sec and try again, a few times before giving up)
BUT IT GETS BETTER!!! I recently went overseas to 
Korea, which uses the 220V standard (i live in USA) 
that the pb100 power supply supports (because as 100 
users should know the lifetime of a leadacid battery is 
terrible). I brought the pb100 along just for fun, as i 
had some b&w games on a floppy.
Lo and behold, when i plug it in and press any key, the 
startup disk is given back to me and the pb boots into 
sys 7! (i was using 6.0.8L on a floppy for its mini 
footprint). the HD was somehow revitalized!!! but the 
FD went kaput.
it would make little or no "grinding" noises that are 
akin to reading floppies. and when a disk was inserted, 
the pb would tell me it was not initialized. when i 
would try to initialize it, one of two things would 
happen: either the init would fail and the floppy would 
come back out, or the screen would go dim (not 
completely dim, and the brightness knob was able to 
turn it below that), and the pb would reboot itself.
my theory is that there is a short inside the fd that 
is suddenly draining WAY too much power from the pb, 
causing it to suddenly dim and reboot.
NOW HERE'S THE HARD PART: I came back to the USA very 
confused. when i got home, the FD still did not work, 
but guess what? neither did the HD. it made the same 
noises as before i left the country.

to the offer of the parts-only pb100: what exactly is 
working on the pb100, and where are you for shipping? 
(i'm in 98092: seattle-tacoma area)

to loyal pb100-er's: any similar problems? i know 
you're all trying the best, but i think that your 
diagnosis(es?) are wrong :-( could it maybe be my power 
supply?

to any other people who might read my post: should i 
just give it up and buy a used ppc powerbook? i know 
the 100 is the smallest of all pb's until (i think) the 
ibook 12.1". i want to try to get this one running 
again before i fashion a battery mount to replace the 
thoroughly dead lead-acid.


thanks to all,
alan
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powerbook 100 problems

[alan_oneil]

SORRY IN ADVANCE FOR A LONG POST.
hi all and thanks for the great input about my dying 
pb100. to clarify, i have gotten it to successfully 
boot using an ext. floppy in the past, but using every 
SCSI tool i could get my hands on (silverlining, apple 
hd sc setup, scsi probe, etc), all i could see was the 
firmware (a conner 20M). the drive would spin up and 
click audibly, but not in the normal fashion. instead 
of rapid short clicking, it would do something like 
this:
_CLICK_ CLICK CLIck CLick Click click click click click 
click click click. (loud at first then gradually fading 
out, about a dozen clicks total. then it would pause 
for a sec and try again, a few times before giving up)
BUT IT GETS BETTER!!! I recently went overseas to 
Korea, which uses the 220V standard (i live in USA) 
that the pb100 power supply supports (because as 100 
users should know the lifetime of a leadacid battery is 
terrible). I brought the pb100 along just for fun, as i 
had some b&w games on a floppy.
Lo and behold, when i plug it in and press any key, the 
startup disk is given back to me and the pb boots into 
sys 7! (i was using 6.0.8L on a floppy for its mini 
footprint). the HD was somehow revitalized!!! but the 
FD went kaput.
it would make little or no "grinding" noises that are 
akin to reading floppies. and when a disk was inserted, 
the pb would tell me it was not initialized. when i 
would try to initialize it, one of two things would 
happen: either the init would fail and the floppy would 
come back out, or the screen would go dim (not 
completely dim, and the brightness knob was able to 
turn it below that), and the pb would reboot itself.
my theory is that there is a short inside the fd that 
is suddenly draining WAY too much power from the pb, 
causing it to suddenly dim and reboot.
NOW HERE'S THE HARD PART: I came back to the USA very 
confused. when i got home, the FD still did not work, 
but guess what? neither did the HD. it made the same 
noises as before i left the country.

to the offer of the parts-only pb100: what exactly is 
working on the pb100, and where are you for shipping? 
(i'm in 98092: seattle-tacoma area)

to loyal pb100-er's: any similar problems? i know 
you're all trying the best, but i think that your 
diagnosis(es?) are wrong :-( could it maybe be my power 
supply?

to any other people who might read my post: should i 
just give it up and buy a used ppc powerbook? i know 
the 100 is the smallest of all pb's until (i think) the 
ibook 12.1". i want to try to get this one running 
again before i fashion a battery mount to replace the 
thoroughly dead lead-acid.


thanks to all,
alan
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powerbook 100 problems

[alan_oneil]

SORRY IN ADVANCE FOR A LONG POST.
hi all and thanks for the great input about my dying 
pb100. to clarify, i have gotten it to successfully 
boot using an ext. floppy in the past, but using every 
SCSI tool i could get my hands on (silverlining, apple 
hd sc setup, scsi probe, etc), all i could see was the 
firmware (a conner 20M). the drive would spin up and 
click audibly, but not in the normal fashion. instead 
of rapid short clicking, it would do something like 
this:
_CLICK_ CLICK CLIck CLick Click click click click click 
click click click. (loud at first then gradually fading 
out, about a dozen clicks total. then it would pause 
for a sec and try again, a few times before giving up)
BUT IT GETS BETTER!!! I recently went overseas to 
Korea, which uses the 220V standard (i live in USA) 
that the pb100 power supply supports (because as 100 
users should know the lifetime of a leadacid battery is 
terrible). I brought the pb100 along just for fun, as i 
had some b&w games on a floppy.
Lo and behold, when i plug it in and press any key, the 
startup disk is given back to me and the pb boots into 
sys 7! (i was using 6.0.8L on a floppy for its mini 
footprint). the HD was somehow revitalized!!! but the 
FD went kaput.
it would make little or no "grinding" noises that are 
akin to reading floppies. and when a disk was inserted, 
the pb would tell me it was not initialized. when i 
would try to initialize it, one of two things would 
happen: either the init would fail and the floppy would 
come back out, or the screen would go dim (not 
completely dim, and the brightness knob was able to 
turn it below that), and the pb would reboot itself.
my theory is that there is a short inside the fd that 
is suddenly draining WAY too much power from the pb, 
causing it to suddenly dim and reboot.
NOW HERE'S THE HARD PART: I came back to the USA very 
confused. when i got home, the FD still did not work, 
but guess what? neither did the HD. it made the same 
noises as before i left the country.

to the offer of the parts-only pb100: what exactly is 
working on the pb100, and where are you for shipping? 
(i'm in 98092: seattle-tacoma area)

to loyal pb100-er's: any similar problems? i know 
you're all trying the best, but i think that your 
diagnosis(es?) are wrong :-( could it maybe be my power 
supply?

to any other people who might read my post: should i 
just give it up and buy a used ppc powerbook? i know 
the 100 is the smallest of all pb's until (i think) the 
ibook 12.1". i want to try to get this one running 
again before i fashion a battery mount to replace the 
thoroughly dead lead-acid.


thanks to all,
alan
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Re: Woo hoo!!!!

[Tom & Lisa P]

>
>Mad Dog: I took a look at the 190 logic board.  The VRAM (and RAM as
>well) are not the same on the 190 and 5300.  However, the VRAM solder
>points on the 5300cse are itty-bitty (not much bigger than those of
>the 603e itself)...  I could give it a try, but I'm not so confident
>that my soldering wouldn't make a mess out of it  So you have a
>dead 5300 board?  What killed it? 
>
>Peace out,
>Drew

I dont know what killed the 5300 mobo, but my organ removal (I pulled 
the RAM chips) didnt help it one bit. : )
The VRAM should be easy to swap.  Want me to do it ?  Oh, whats the 
writing on the VRAM ?

Mad Dog

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Re: 1400c RAM expansion

[Tom & Lisa P]

>  >> Some early 1400/117 shipped with a 4MB apple card for 12MB base.
>>
>>  Mine is one of these (1400cs/117). The problem with these systems is that
>>  there are some 8MB "Apple motherboard" RAM pulls floating around that came
>>  from more amply endowed 1400s, and while these are a cheap and easy upgrade,
>>  when you have more than one "stackable" module in there too the system
>>  starts getting weird. I got a large number of inexplicable RAM test failures
>>  until someone suggested putting the old 4MB module back in, and then both
>>  stackable modules started behaving. (Since the problem only manifested after
>>  I bought a second stackable module, I initially suspected bad RAM and spent
>>  a fair bit on RMA-ing apparently bad RAM until I put the 4MB module back.)
>
>I have heard of this problem but never seen it myself, and I've upgraded a
>few 4MB to 8MB.
>
>My instinct would have been incompatible stackable cards or a bad 8MB card,
>can anyone shed any more light on this one ?
>
>Best wishes
>
>Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic
>www.pbfanatic.co.uk
>

I have heard several accounts of the apple 8 meg module causing 
problems when you overclock the bus OR have 2 stackable modules in 
the non-apple spot for a total of 64 (or more) megs of memory. YMMV.

Mad Dog

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Re: Duo 250 screen on a 280 logic board

[Tom & Lisa P]

>It works.
>
>
>Oh, you want details?  : >)
>
>My screens have different part numbers (250 = 620-0319 revA, 280 =
>620-0499), and different cables of course (each cable has 2 PNs - 250 =
>821-0017A & 632-0010A, 280 = 821-0045B & 632-0043A). Everything else
>inside the lid is identical as far as I can see, plastics, hinges, PCBs,
>other cables, etc. I plugged the 280's cable into the 250 screen
>assembly, plopped the whole mess onto my 280's chassis and it fired up
>fine.
>
>I haven't put the 280 screen on any other Duos, but I'd like to see if a
>230 will drive it. I don't see why not though as a 250 is pretty much
>just a 230 with the active screen.
>
>so, now y'all know, feel better now?  : >)
>
>Dan K
>
>PS: while apart, anyone want me to try and find the OEM info on the
>screens?

I was never able to get info from the makers.  SOmething about a 
special made item for apple.  I would sure like to know what other 
LCDS are pin compatible with the apple LCDs.

Mad Dog

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Re: Woo hoo!!!!

[Andrew Kershaw]

I just love it when things "work."  

I figured out how to get the CE display working w/ my 512K VRAM cs 
logic board - remove the power management module and reseat it every 
time before boot.  A real pain in the ass and not a long term 
solution, but it will let me run some benchmarks...  

I finally tracked down a copy of benchmark software and have run some 
tests on my 5300ce (stock, w/ extensions enabled).  I'm currently 
running the same tests on my 5300cs 117MHz (up from 100MHz, extensions 
disabled - see my previous posts).  Initially, (the tests aren't 
finished) it seems that the 5300cs 117MHz (I'm going to start calling 
this the 5300cse for 5300cs "enhanced" ... lol!) is at least exactly 
as fast as the CE.  The CPU and FPU tests were actually _faster_ w/ 
the 5300cse!  (But I think that's an artifact of running w/ 
extensions disabled).

I'll post the results of the benchmarks on my website tonight, so 
everyone can go have a look (say, after 8pm mountain time).

Mad Dog: I took a look at the 190 logic board.  The VRAM (and RAM as 
well) are not the same on the 190 and 5300.  However, the VRAM solder 
points on the 5300cse are itty-bitty (not much bigger than those of 
the 603e itself)...  I could give it a try, but I'm not so confident 
that my soldering wouldn't make a mess out of it  So you have a 
dead 5300 board?  What killed it?  

Peace out,
Drew
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Re: 1400c RAM expansion

[Paul Nelson]

At 5:13 PM -0400 9/11/02, Dan K wrote:
>I've had my eye on this thread and other similar threads in the past
>because I've got more than 80 (!!) 24MB ram modules I'm unable to sell
>until I can figure out why they don't work in some 1400s, but _do_ work
>fine in others _and_ how to fix it.

Hi, Dan,
It occurred to me that if they aren't all the same brand, that some
pairs may work and others not?  This is probably too simple, but I've heard
of incompatibility between some 24's and others.  How's the PPC 540C
working out>
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Re: Apple Presentaion System ? Yep it works :-)

[David Allen]

They show up on eBay and the LEM Swap list.  Ask for one and you'll be amazed how
many people come forward with them available.

David Allen

James Williams wrote:

>
> Channel L1 probably translates to "Line Input 1", which would be what you
> are looking for to run video into it.  I wish I could get my hands on one of
> those "Presenter" gadgets you found.
>


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Re: 1400c RAM expansion

[Dan K]

The ram test failure message pops up because . . . the ram failed the
startup ram test. By rebooting, you avoid getting the message because the
ram test is not performed on a reboot. You are more likely to experience
problems though once the OS starts actually using the 'problem' ram.

I've had my eye on this thread and other similar threads in the past
because I've got more than 80 (!!) 24MB ram modules I'm unable to sell
until I can figure out why they don't work in some 1400s, but _do_ work
fine in others _and_ how to fix it.

I've read everything I could find on the net, in list archives, in NGs,
etc. but the best info I've seen so far can be found in the Apple devnote
on the second generation 1400:

---
RAM Expansion Guidelines

Developers must take special care when designing RAM expansion cards for
the PowerBook 1400 computers. Excessive capacitive loading on the memory
address bus can cause a problem with the timing margins. When this
problem occurs, the computer displays a dialog box at startup time
warning the user that the memory test has failed, and the computer does
not recognize a portion of the newly-installed expansion RAM.

Address Signal Timing

For proper operation of the expansion RAM, the signals on the memory
address bus must be stable before the assertion (falling edge) of the RAS
(row address strobe) signals. Because each address line is connected to
every DRAM device, whereas each RAS line is connected to only one bank of
devices, the difference in loading can cause the address signals to
change more slowly than the RAS signals. The resulting decrease in the
timing margins is greater on expansion cards that have many DRAM devices.

€ Note: The interface to the RAM expansion slot uses buffers to provide
adequate fan-outs. Signals RMA(0­11), /RCAS(0­3), /RRAS(2­7), and /RRAMWE
are buffered by 74FCT245 devices and 22 ‡ damping resisters. €

The timing margin between the address signals and the assertion of the
RAS signals is small. Additional loading of the address bus signals will
further decrease the timing margins and, under worst-case conditions,
will force negative timing margins on the RAM expansion card. To maintain
adequate timing margins in the worst case‹using DRAM devices from
different manufacturers and considering the timing delay caused by
circuit loading‹requires an additional delay of 7 to 10 nS in the
assertion of the RAS signals. The next section describes two ways of
obtaining this additional delay.

[more stuff]
---

sources here:



One thing for sure, the first devnote has none of this detail, so
obviously Apple was catching some heat from ram makers and customers when
supposedly compatible ram turned out to be incompatible.

I've just about given up hope though that I'll be able to fix the modules
I've got, a shame since there's still a good market for the darn things.
Ce la vie.  : >)

Dan K

On 9/11/02 archy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I bought my 1400c/133 in February of 1997, and it has the 8MB "expansion"
>board, so 16 MB on the board.  I promptly bought two 24 meg stackable
>cards.
>I installed both, and upon startup, got the memory check error, and have had
>it ever since.  From a cold start-up, I can click continue and go onto the
>finder, and when I select About this Macintosh..., the computer only
>recognizes 60 MB.  Next, I select Restart, and everything boots properly,
>memory check is fine, and then I get the full 64MB.  So my guess is that
>on a
>cold boot, not all the stacks of memory get powered-up in time for memory
>check.  And yes, when I remove one of the 24 MB cards, the cold-boot is
>hitch-free.
>
>I guess this would be a good time to ask if there is a way for me to delay
>the
>memory check long enough for the memory stacks to completely power-up.
>
>-Peter
>
>
>>= Original Message From Malcolm Cornelius
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>=
>
>>I have heard of this problem but never seen it myself, and I've upgraded a
>>few 4MB to 8MB.
>>
>>My instinct would have been incompatible stackable cards or a bad 8MB card,
>>can anyone shed any more light on this one ?

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Re: 1400c RAM expansion

[Malcolm Cornelius]

on 11/09/02 21:13, archy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I bought my 1400c/133 in February of 1997, and it has the 8MB "expansion"
> board, so 16 MB on the board.  I promptly bought two 24 meg stackable cards.
> I installed both, and upon startup, got the memory check error, and have had
> it ever since.  From a cold start-up, I can click continue and go onto the
> finder, and when I select About this Macintosh..., the computer only
> recognizes 60 MB.  Next, I select Restart, and everything boots properly,
> memory check is fine, and then I get the full 64MB.  So my guess is that on a
> cold boot, not all the stacks of memory get powered-up in time for memory
> check.  And yes, when I remove one of the 24 MB cards, the cold-boot is
> hitch-free.
> 
> I guess this would be a good time to ask if there is a way for me to delay the
> memory check long enough for the memory stacks to completely power-up.

Just disable the memory check and see if it works ok, speeds up the boot as
well ?

Best wishes

Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic
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PB1400 G3 333/512 - deal!

[Dan K]

I just bought one of these and at $145 it seems like money spent 
reasonably well. I had been using a 183mhz 603e NUPowr and while the jump 
to G3 wasn't startling it _is_ noticably faster.

http://www.megamacs.com/v1/?cat=10005&action=view&pid=690643

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On 9/11/02 Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I don't know if you can still find the 333MHz Sonnet PB upgrade but it was
>night and day for this little guy. I'm so pleased that now I'm spoiled by
>the speed and considering bumping it up even more.

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Re: 1400c RAM expansion

[Cameron Kaiser]

> I bought my 1400c/133 in February of 1997, and it has the 8MB "expansion" 
> board, so 16 MB on the board.  I promptly bought two 24 meg stackable cards.  
> I installed both, and upon startup, got the memory check error, and have had 
> it ever since.

Just for yucks, have you ever tried pulling the motherboard 8MB and having
just the stackables (i.e., the 8MB, and the two 24s)?

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Re: 1400c RAM expansion

[archy]

I bought my 1400c/133 in February of 1997, and it has the 8MB "expansion" 
board, so 16 MB on the board.  I promptly bought two 24 meg stackable cards.  
I installed both, and upon startup, got the memory check error, and have had 
it ever since.  From a cold start-up, I can click continue and go onto the 
finder, and when I select About this Macintosh..., the computer only 
recognizes 60 MB.  Next, I select Restart, and everything boots properly, 
memory check is fine, and then I get the full 64MB.  So my guess is that on a 
cold boot, not all the stacks of memory get powered-up in time for memory 
check.  And yes, when I remove one of the 24 MB cards, the cold-boot is 
hitch-free.

I guess this would be a good time to ask if there is a way for me to delay the 
memory check long enough for the memory stacks to completely power-up.

-Peter


>= Original Message From Malcolm Cornelius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
=

>I have heard of this problem but never seen it myself, and I've upgraded a
>few 4MB to 8MB.
>
>My instinct would have been incompatible stackable cards or a bad 8MB card,
>can anyone shed any more light on this one ?


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Re: Need help with dead 520c

[Paul Nelson]

At 1:29 PM -0400 9/11/02, André Rüegg wrote:
>My trusty old 520c, which has been upgraded with a Newer PowerPC upgrade
>card and a 540c screen, has suddenly decided to play dead. It does nothing.
>The batteries seem to be charged. The power supply seems to be providing
>power. I pulled the hard drive and it worked fine in an external case (I
>retrieved my data). But when I hit the power button it just sits there.
>
>When I had the case open I made sure that everything seemed to be seated
>properly on the boards. Any suggestions?
>
>I noticed that the local (45 miles away) CompUSA store advertises that they
>can repair any type of computer. Would this be a safe alternative? Any
>recommendation for other repair options?

Have you reset the power manager?  Ctl/opt/Apple/restart with
power/batt off for half hr.
No way for CompUSA, or any other commercial repair.  You can do it
yourself, as the 5XX's are so modular that there's no reason for paying
techies.
 Get the service manual, and swap back the 040 to narrow down the
problem.  Might be the PPC daughtercard.  If it still doesn't work, then
you know that the most expensive part isn't the problem.  Probably the
motherboard, then.
Paul



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Re: Need help with dead 520c

[Scott Holder]

First thing to try is to remove all power sources and let it sit awhile.

Failing that, reset the power manager with all power removed.

As for CompUSA, yes, they might could fix it. But, you could probably
get a whole new 520c what they'd want to charge. Probably even a 33mhz
upgrade to go alone with it.

Scott Holder

-Original Message-
From: PowerBooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
André Rüegg
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:29 PM
To: PowerBooks
Subject: Need help with dead 520c


My trusty old 520c, which has been upgraded with a Newer PowerPC upgrade
card and a 540c screen, has suddenly decided to play dead. It does
nothing. The batteries seem to be charged. The power supply seems to be
providing power. I pulled the hard drive and it worked fine in an
external case (I retrieved my data). But when I hit the power button it
just sits there.

When I had the case open I made sure that everything seemed to be seated
properly on the boards. Any suggestions?

I noticed that the local (45 miles away) CompUSA store advertises that
they can repair any type of computer. Would this be a safe alternative?
Any recommendation for other repair options?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Wanting his Blackbird to fly again,

Andre 


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Re: Need help with dead 520c

[COCCORP]

In a message dated 02-09-11 13:32:44 EDT, you write:


> But when I hit the power button it just sits there.


I am sure I have the .pdf file on that machine, if U want it. It dscribes a 
way to reset the power on the PB 5xx (& other "trubbel-shootin' tricks") but 
I don't remember it offhand. I think it involves removing all forms of power 
and letting it sit a spell??

Anyway, If U still need it this evening, I can send a link when I leave the 
Salt Mine...

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Need help with dead 520c

[André Rüegg]

My trusty old 520c, which has been upgraded with a Newer PowerPC upgrade
card and a 540c screen, has suddenly decided to play dead. It does nothing.
The batteries seem to be charged. The power supply seems to be providing
power. I pulled the hard drive and it worked fine in an external case (I
retrieved my data). But when I hit the power button it just sits there.

When I had the case open I made sure that everything seemed to be seated
properly on the boards. Any suggestions?

I noticed that the local (45 miles away) CompUSA store advertises that they
can repair any type of computer. Would this be a safe alternative? Any
recommendation for other repair options?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Wanting his Blackbird to fly again,

Andre 


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Re: WALLSTREET/AOL CONNECTION

[Andrew Kershaw]

One other thing to check: Is the Viking modem script selected in the 
Modem control panel _and_ in AOL's setup?

Just from a quick look, I haven't deleted any modem scripts and I 
don't have the Viking script installed on my Wallstreet (OS 9.1 w/ AOL 
5)

Peace,
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Re: WALLSTREET/AOL CONNECTION

[Andrew Kershaw]

Ah, see, there you are.  When you use TCP/IP to connect to AOL, you 
have to already have a 'net connection.  In other words, you are 
_already_ connected to a service and AOL just tunnels it's packets 
through that connection.

So, this method won't work for connecting directly to AOL.  You will 
still need to use AOL Link (and not PPP) if you don't have a 2nd ISP 
besides AOL.

As for why your connection isn't working, "Caprice1014," you have said 
you've checked all the settings...  So your AOL connection attempt 
fails each time your modem starts connecting to the remote modem...  
For each number.  Can you dial into any other services?

I'm thinking that your modem is too fast...  Sometimes if I'm trying 
to connect at 56k (or thereabouts), I'll get all the way through the 
connection process when AOL will complain and drop me down to a lower 
speed (33.6, 28.8).  Sometimes I loose the connection entirely at that 
point.  Maybe there's all of a sudden a lot of noise on your telephone 
line?

Try configuring the modem to connect at 33.6 and see what happens...

Other than that, I can't think of what could be the problem...

Peace,
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Re: PB 3400 New Fujitsu HD - Now Sleepless

[James Williams]

> 
>> Well, I have tried everything I can think of to get my PB to wake from sleep
>> without using the reset switch after installing the new 20 gig Fujitsu but
>> nothing seems to help.
>> 
I found the url for "sleeper" :
http://www.stclairsoft.com/Main/products.html


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Re: PB 3400 New Fujitsu HD - Now Sleepless

[James Williams]

on 8/24/02 9:38 AM, Gary D. Adams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> 
> Russell - Unknown1 - Idaho USA wrote:
> 
>> Well, I have tried everything I can think of to get my PB to wake from sleep
>> without using the reset switch after installing the new 20 gig Fujitsu but
>> nothing seems to help.

This may not help at all, but you might do a search for a control panel
called "Sleeper".  It does the same things as Energy saver but has more
features and who knows, it might work when the Energy saver won't.  I use it
on my Imac to automatically shut down the machine after it has been powered
on with Energy Saver, as apparently Energy Saver won't do both, at least it
won't on my Imac.  I don't remember where I got the program or I would
include the URL.



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Re: Older Software for Older PowerBooks

[James Williams]

> 
> So, my question is, all this software is obviously outdated, but is some of it
> still largely compatible and useful?  Is PageMill 1.01 a good program
> w/attractive templates that are more or less compliant w/today's standards?
> And, would pdf files generated by Acrobat 2.1 be at all problematic for
> today's Readers?

A lot of older software is still very compatible and useful in my opinion.
I am making a guess here, but I would think that the newer acrobat readers
would be backwards compatible.  I don't know anything about Pagemill 1.01,
but I am running version 3 on a Powerbook 5300, and aside from the
limitation of a 640 X 480 screen it works great. I personally don't like all
of the fancy html stuff on a page anyway and can do basically anything I
want with 3.0.  You can often pick up old copies of PageMill on Ebay.  I
think I paid less than $10 for this one.


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Re: WALLSTREET/AOL CONNECTION

[PeterH5322]

In a message dated 9/11/02 6:49:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
Does this work?  I thought AOL has a proprietary PPP connection 
routine that requires you to use AOL Link instead of the normal PPP 
stack in TCP/IP.

Sure would be interesting if it does work - then all those folks w/ 
AOL accounts and IPNetRouter (ahem, myself for one) could share that 
connection while online.
>>

Oops ... I forgot I've been using an "unmentionable" ISP for my DSL 
connection for about a year not (at the time of my DSL's installation, AOL 
didn't offer broadband connections), and I also use this ISP's dial 
connection as a backup when their DSL has been down, which it was for the 
past month.

So, I don't know if it works in every particular, but it surely works when 
your AOL connection is, as mine is, through AOL's "Bring Your Own Internet".

I use a router ... as a firewall only, don't you know, because my ISP forbids 
use of routers for obtaining additional connections to the 'Net ;-))) ... and 
this technique certainly allows for multiple 'puters to access any number of 
services, including AOL, all at the same time.

When I use my ISP's dial line as a backup, I lose the firewall function and 
the "253 sockets" function of the router, but I can still use the same 
back-door method of getting into AOL.

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Re: Apple Presentaion System ? Yep it works :-)

[James Williams]

on 9/7/02 6:36 PM, David Allen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Found the problem.  I may be pretty good with Macs, but I've got a lot to
> learn
> about VCRs!!!  I have no idea what channel "L1" is, but while playing with the

Channel L1 probably translates to "Line Input 1", which would be what you
are looking for to run video into it.  I wish I could get my hands on one of
those "Presenter" gadgets you found.


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Re: OS 9.1 on a 5300?

[James Williams]

on 8/22/02 4:52 AM, Robert Hutchins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> My PB 5300 had some serious directory problems so I hooked it up to my
> 8500 in SCSI disk mode, initialized the HD and installed OS 9.1.
> 
> Chmes of deaaath!

I run 8.6 on my 5300 and it works great. How much ram do you have? I am
pretty sure that I've heard of people running 9.1 on the machine, although
I'm not entirely certain, and have never tried it personally. I've heard
most recommendations for 8.5 / 8.6 on the 5300 though.  Mine is extremely
stable and reasonably responsive with 40 MB Ram, a 6GB Fuji Drive, Ram
Doubler, and SpeedDoubler installed. I have the CS model, btw.


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Re: WALLSTREET/AOL CONNECTION

[Andrew Kershaw]

Does this work?  I thought AOL has a proprietary PPP connection 
routine that requires you to use AOL Link instead of the normal PPP 
stack in TCP/IP.

Sure would be interesting if it does work - then all those folks w/ 
AOL accounts and IPNetRouter (ahem, myself for one) could share that 
connection while online.

Peace out,
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Re: 3400 slots

[Gary D. Adams]

For more information: http://www.wwc.edu/~frohro/Cardbus/Cardbus.html

Gary

David Deckert wrote:

> >I thought the issue wasn't whether the 3400 was Cardbus compliant or
> >not. (Inherently, I belive that it is) I thought the issue was that
> >the card cage used in the 3400 won't accept the cardbus cards as they
> >are shaped slightly different...  If you swapped your cage for a
> >cardbus acceptable cage, it is my understanding that you could then
> >use card bus cards...
>
> This newbie finds this CardBus talk is fascinating. I'd seen the MCE
> modification advertised, but didn't know swapping out the cage was
> essentially just a physical procedure? Surely something electrical had
> to also be done, but I guess not.
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Re: 1400c RAM expansion

[Malcolm Cornelius]

>> Some early 1400/117 shipped with a 4MB apple card for 12MB base.
> 
> Mine is one of these (1400cs/117). The problem with these systems is that
> there are some 8MB "Apple motherboard" RAM pulls floating around that came
> from more amply endowed 1400s, and while these are a cheap and easy upgrade,
> when you have more than one "stackable" module in there too the system
> starts getting weird. I got a large number of inexplicable RAM test failures
> until someone suggested putting the old 4MB module back in, and then both
> stackable modules started behaving. (Since the problem only manifested after
> I bought a second stackable module, I initially suspected bad RAM and spent
> a fair bit on RMA-ing apparently bad RAM until I put the 4MB module back.)

I have heard of this problem but never seen it myself, and I've upgraded a
few 4MB to 8MB.

My instinct would have been incompatible stackable cards or a bad 8MB card,
can anyone shed any more light on this one ?

Best wishes

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Re: 1400c RAM expansion

[Malcolm Cornelius]

on 11/09/02 04:45, Tom Seid at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> If you have a 1400/117, they shipped with 8 on the board...up to the
> 1400/166, that shipped with 16 on board

I thought that the minimum config was 12 MB - 8 on the logic board plus 4 in
the apple slot, and the maximum 16MB, again 8 on the logic board and 8 in
the apple slot.

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Re: Powerbook 100 problems

[Malcolm Cornelius]

on 11/09/02 04:28, Brian at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> You should be able to take the external floppy case apart; and then the
> internal mechanism is the same for many powerbook floppies, just the case
> holding them is different.  It might be that is the case for pb100's.  I
> recall that it is, but don't think it is mentioned on the powerbook 100 FAQ
> (see www.lowendmac.com powerbook 100 section for link to the pb100 FAQ).
> Can someone confirm?
> 
> I really think I recall people talking about using pb100 external floppies
> as replacement mechanisms for other powerbooks.  So a cheap pb5xx series
> floppy mechanism from ebay might fit inside the pb100 external floppy
> case.you'd just need a small screwdrivers (torx for sure for the 5xx
> floppy drive, I think).

The floppy in the external unit is the same as that in other 1xx machine
(maybe not the 150 though) but is different to the 5xx one IIRC.

Best wishes

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Re: 3400 slots

[David Deckert]

>I thought the issue wasn't whether the 3400 was Cardbus compliant or
>not. (Inherently, I belive that it is) I thought the issue was that
>the card cage used in the 3400 won't accept the cardbus cards as they
>are shaped slightly different...  If you swapped your cage for a
>cardbus acceptable cage, it is my understanding that you could then
>use card bus cards...

This newbie finds this CardBus talk is fascinating. I'd seen the MCE
modification advertised, but didn't know swapping out the cage was
essentially just a physical procedure? Surely something electrical had
to also be done, but I guess not.

So this begs the question. Where are we going to get CardBus cages
ourselves so that we can do our own "MCE swap", now that the cat is out
of the bag? 

Remy, you said this has been covered no doubt, but are there
sources for the cages? Sorry, haven't yet checked out the link you
provided if all the info's there already.

-David

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