Re: 270c logic board

[sirksd]

Sorry for the failure to strip the links from my earlier email.  I know better
and will try to remember.  Thanks for the information.  At least I will have a
screen to use on my other 280 if I need one and cannot get this machine working.

Dan in AZ

>
> >Alternatively, will a 270c screen work on a 280/280c computer that was
> >operating well with a black and white screen since new?  Are the chipset and
> >drivers OK in that other good machine, or would I have to change the logic
> >board in that also?
>
> Yep, the 270c and 280c screens are identical.  The 280 and 280c
> motherboards are the same thing.  You can even use a 280 (B&W) screen
> on a 270c motherboard.
>
> Mad Dog


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Re: 270c logic board

[sirksd]

Actually, by the same result, I meant that it still didn't boot - screen did not
light, no boot chime before hardware chimes.  I tried booting with no RAM board
installed and no luck.  Thanks for your help.  Still no luck.

Dan in AZ

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> In a message dated 8/25/2004 6:18:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
> > A couple of people on this list told me to check the RAM.  I switched the
> >  RAM to my other 280 and it works well.  The hard drive appears OK, but
> >  beyond putting another hard drive into the 270c with the same result, I
> have
> >  not tested it.
>
> I am assuming that means the HD worked in the Duo 270c?
>
> >  So, according to the Apple Service Source book I have a
> >  defective logic board to check yet.  I guess I could use a replacement
> logic
> >  board.  If anyone has one, or thinks maybe I overlooked something else, let
> >  me know please.
>
> What size of RAM module are you trying to use?
>
> Did you try booting the 280c w/o any RAM installed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig W.
> Atlanta GA
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Re: WebCam & DigitalRadar SW (was Re: Where to find "QuickTimeLib")

[Brian]

On Wednesday, August 25, 2004, at 10:53 PM, Andrew Kershaw wrote:
Well, what I was talking about here is not the server, it's the 
client.  Open the Chooser, click AppleShare, then, if you have 3.7 or 
later, you'll be able to click the "Connect to Server..." button. So 
I'm not talking about a server at all.  I'm saying that any Mac that 
can run System 7.5 can _connect_ to an AppleShare IP server 
(AppleShare server didn't include real TCP/IP functionality until ASIP 
5 - previous versions were AppleTalk/MacIP only, AFAIK) or a Mac 
running ShareWay IP.

You're right - the server part didn't show up until 9.0.  But the 
server part is really just ShareWay IP repackaged.  ShareWay IP can 
run on a System 7.5 Mac with OpenTransport, though.  It's not free - 
$79 or something for ShareWay IP Personal Edition.  The confusion is 
my fault - I read your original email too quickly and glossed over the 
part where you started talking about the server portion...
.sigh.  So, this is useless to him on his 3400, which is what has the 
cam, which is what needs to act as a _server_.  He wants to log into 
the 3400 somehow. So without OS 9, it's the long workaround.

I think. :)
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Re: WebCam & DigitalRadar SW (was Re: Where to find "QuickTimeLib")

[Andrew Kershaw]

The "connect to server IP" CLIENT feature appeared in OS 8.x, 
but the SERVER IP part might not have been bundled for free 
until OS 9 (this would mean you need OS 9 on the powerbook to 
serve this way). It would be free though, which ARA server might 
not be. Then from your remote Mac at home, you could use the 
"connect to server IP" feature in the chooser ( with 8.x or 
higher at home, this is bundled IIRC, might have appeared in 
8.5) and connect to the 3400.
Actually, this appeared in 7.6, I believe. But it's really a 
function of OpenTransport and the AppleShare extension. OT 1.1.2 
on System 7.5 ought to be able to do this.

Not for free until later versions of the OS. IIRC. You use "ought" 
so rephrase if you know it will work :) I recall that I tried, but 
it wasn't available for free at that time (that OS).
Very well.
AppleShare 3.7 or later is what enables this feature. Any Mac that 
can run AppleShare 3.7 (which means basically any Mac that can run 
System 7.5) ABSOLUTELY CAN use this feature.
I hate to pick, but do you mean as SERVER? built-in? that's cool if 
so, I know the _client_ worked 'cos I used it that way at that time. 
I really recall not being able to serve via IP though, (but that's a 
different Q then, if it was supposed to work).
Well, what I was talking about here is not the server, it's the 
client.  Open the Chooser, click AppleShare, then, if you have 3.7 or 
later, you'll be able to click the "Connect to Server..." button. 
So I'm not talking about a server at all.  I'm saying that any Mac 
that can run System 7.5 can _connect_ to an AppleShare IP server 
(AppleShare server didn't include real TCP/IP functionality until 
ASIP 5 - previous versions were AppleTalk/MacIP only, AFAIK) or a Mac 
running ShareWay IP.

You're right - the server part didn't show up until 9.0.  But the 
server part is really just ShareWay IP repackaged.  ShareWay IP can 
run on a System 7.5 Mac with OpenTransport, though.  It's not free - 
$79 or something for ShareWay IP Personal Edition.  The confusion is 
my fault - I read your original email too quickly and glossed over 
the part where you started talking about the server portion...
My take was that the reason for dial-in [... snip]
Gotcha - we're on the same page then! ;-)
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Re: 3400c cannot charge the battery

[COCCORP]

Oh, I AM using a proper M4896, 45W AC adapter with it, that seems to operate 
(and charge) correctly on my 3400c/240...

Thanks,

Craig W.
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Re: 3400c cannot charge the battery

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it just gets curiouser and curiouser...

I let the battery on my 3400c drain down to almost nothing, then hooked up 
the AC; no charge. I went elsewhere to sulk...

When I got back, and woke the machine, the battery still does not show the 
charging indicator, but it seems to have more juice. It went from 2/8 bars left 
to 4/8 bars...

Could it be only charging when asleep or off?

Thanks,

Craig W.
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Re: 3400 & TV Monitor

[Cliff Rediger]

At 8:28 AM -0700 8/12/04, Fabian Fang wrote:
My PowerBook 3400c's all came with a VGA adapter (Apple Part Number 
922-2963) for connection to an external monitor.  Brand-new Apple 
Presentation System packages can be picked up from eBay for very low 
bids.
Hi Fabian,
My E-bay purchased Apple Presentation System came today.
Unfortunately the video cable does not fit my 3400.
I think they both have 15 pins, but the APS has two rows
and the 3400 has three. Rats.
Do you think I'll be able to find an adapter?
I don't recall if my 3400 came with a VGA adapter.
I bought it refurbished, I think. Can't remember really
since it happened in the midst of a rather tumultuous
change of living circumstance, i.e. Fiji to USA.
Anyway, as always, any suggestions you have are appreciated.
Thank you.
Cliff
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Re: WebCam & DigitalRadar SW (was Re: Where to find "QuickTimeLib")

[Brian]

 The "connect to server IP" CLIENT feature appeared in OS 8.x, 
but the SERVER IP part might not have been bundled for free until 
OS 9 (this would mean you need OS 9 on the powerbook to serve 
this way). It would be free though, which ARA server might not 
be. Then from your remote Mac at home, you could use the "connect 
to server IP" feature in the chooser ( with 8.x or higher at 
home, this is bundled IIRC, might have appeared in 8.5) and 
connect to the 3400.
Actually, this appeared in 7.6, I believe. But it's really a 
function of OpenTransport and the AppleShare extension. OT 1.1.2 
on System 7.5 ought to be able to do this.

Not for free until later versions of the OS. IIRC. You use "ought" 
so rephrase if you know it will work :) I recall that I tried, but 
it wasn't available for free at that time (that OS).
Very well.
AppleShare 3.7 or later is what enables this feature.  Any Mac that 
can run AppleShare 3.7 (which means basically any Mac that can run 
System 7.5) ABSOLUTELY CAN use this feature.
I hate to pick, but do you mean as SERVER?  built-in? that's cool if 
so, I know the _client_ worked 'cos I used it that way at that time. 
I really recall not being able to serve via IP though, (but that's a 
different Q then, if it was supposed to work).

My take was that the reason for dial-in would be used to trim the 
unavailable false hits, since the DRadar software would definitely 
take them, and space was an issue eventually.  And I suppose to see 
if anyone was messing around, I guess, would make this nice to do. 
And if you can't dial your CPU, then you *know* someone broke in  :/

George needs to check email more often :)  too many posts w/out his input here.
B

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Re: WebCam & DigitalRadar SW (was Re: Where to find "QuickTimeLib")

[Andrew Kershaw]

 The "connect to server IP" CLIENT feature appeared in OS 8.x, but 
the SERVER IP part might not have been bundled for free until OS 9 
(this would mean you need OS 9 on the powerbook to serve this 
way). It would be free though, which ARA server might not be. Then 
from your remote Mac at home, you could use the "connect to server 
IP" feature in the chooser ( with 8.x or higher at home, this is 
bundled IIRC, might have appeared in 8.5) and connect to the 3400.
Actually, this appeared in 7.6, I believe. But it's really a 
function of OpenTransport and the AppleShare extension. OT 1.1.2 on 
System 7.5 ought to be able to do this.

Not for free until later versions of the OS. IIRC. You use "ought" 
so rephrase if you know it will work :) I recall that I tried, but 
it wasn't available for free at that time (that OS).
Very well.
AppleShare 3.7 or later is what enables this feature.  Any Mac that 
can run AppleShare 3.7 (which means basically any Mac that can run 
System 7.5) ABSOLUTELY CAN use this feature.

He's 8.6. So again, it's not free for him :) which is why I posted 
the long workaround. If buying stuff was not a concern, IMO $80 for 
smaller, better, more adjustable gear would be the way to go here :)
Yes, but he'd still have the issue of not being able to dial in! ;-) 
That X10 stuff is neat (I've got a wireless camera from them, 
actually), but it doesn't meet his need to see the images when he's 
out of the house.  (That's what we're talking about, right?  I got 
confused here somewhere in the email shuffle and changing subject 
lines.)  Unless there's something I'm missing from your description...

I'm not going to argue about what's more worthy of the $80, but on 
the Swap List and eBay, OS 9 can be found for significantly LESS than 
that. ;-)  I don't know if he's got OS 9 at all, or what his reasons 
are for not having it on his 3400, but it's still a possibility.

Peace,
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Re: Display blackout, in stages

[Steven Brown]

I also have had similar problems, I replaced pram, power supply, etc, 
all to no avail?

Steve Brown
On Wednesday, August 25, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Paul Simons wrote:
Hello 1400 List,
  My 1400c started going bad by, now and then, showing vertical lines 
2mm
apart on the top half of the screen. Then, the backlight went, but by 
angling
the reflection I could still make out what was on the screen. Then, 
total
balckout. I tried turning it off and on a few times. I could hear the 
chimes and
the hard drive working, but no screen.

  Any help appreciated. I can do electronics work, I've seen other 
problems like
this ascribed to blown fuses. But - why did fuses blow? Where are they 
on the
circuit boards, what values, what does DigiKey call them? Thanks for 
any help,
Paul in Pennsylvania


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Re: WebCam & DigitalRadar SW (was Re: Where to find "QuickTimeLib")

[Brian]

Not anymore.  ARA Client/Server is now implemented in the Remote 
Access control panel under OS 9 (and possibly 8.5+).  Well, a 
stripped down version of ARA Server, anyway, but good enough for a 
single user.
I'm pretty sure the _server_ feature is only in 9.  And he's 8.6 on 
the 3400 at this time.

 The "connect to server IP" CLIENT feature appeared in OS 8.x, but 
the SERVER IP part might not have been bundled for free until OS 9 
(this would mean you need OS 9 on the powerbook to serve this way). 
It would be free though, which ARA server might not be. Then from 
your remote Mac at home, you could use the "connect to server IP" 
feature in the chooser ( with 8.x or higher at home, this is 
bundled IIRC, might have appeared in 8.5) and connect to the 3400.
Actually, this appeared in 7.6, I believe.  But it's really a 
function of OpenTransport and the AppleShare extension.  OT 1.1.2 on 
System 7.5 ought to be able to do this.
Not for free until later versions of the OS.  IIRC.  You use "ought" 
so rephrase if you know it will work :)  I recall that I tried, but 
it wasn't available for free at that time (that OS).

[snip]
Above comments based on my ARA experience when my dept had it, 8.x 
era, purchased and running on one of their Apple servers. I could 
use ARA client on my 6400 with dialup to connect to the dept. 
servers. I'm pretty sure that for your machine to serve via 
AppleshareIP, you need OS 9 on it (the 3400). Someone will correct 
me if I'm wrong and perhaps confirm if I'm right about this.
Well, actually, it's AppleTalk encapsulated in TCP/IP, not 
"AppleShare IP" which is a distinct product/server software from 
Apple.  AppleShareIP is not a protocol.  The software Apple uses in 
OS 9 to allow File Sharing over TCP/IP is also not AppleShare IP - 
it's Open Door Networks' ShareWay IP Personal with a make over.  If 
you buy yourself ShareWay IP Personal, you can run it on at least OS 
8.0.  (I've got it nicely running on a 6100/60 with OS 8.1)  That 
will allow anyone with at least OT 1.1.2 and a relatively recent 
version of the AppleShare extension to connect to your Mac using the 
"Connect to Server..." button in the Chooser.  But, again, if you 
have OS 9.x, it's not needed.
He's 8.6.  So again, it's not free for him :) which is why I posted 
the long workaround.  If buying stuff was not a concern, IMO $80 for 
smaller, better, more adjustable gear would be the way to go here :) 
The workaround I KNOW will work.  The other stuff, I'd test if I had 
an 8.6 machine, but I removed it even from my older CPUs.

Anyway.   And I think it was on this list I got taken to task for 
calling the made-over ShareWareIP 'appletalk encapsulated in TCP/IP'; 
they said it was a bad technical description for some reason I didn't 
retain. Per that poster anyway.

Hope it works, George.  Perhaps the take-home message for you is that 
there are a couple ways to make it work, and it would perhaps be a 
LOT easier if your 3400 were OS 9 (a lot more certain to work with 
bundled features, anyway).

B
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Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

[Andrew Kershaw]

All this ARA provider stuff works in 8.6? I thought it was still 
purchase-only at that time (for server). That's easier than getting 
setup over a 3rd party provider then (via PPP), then.

B
Well, the Mac placing the call just needs OS 8, as far as I know. 
I've been doing this on-and-off for 6-7 years with my beige G3.  For 
System 7.5.x, you can download ARA Client 3.x for free from Apple, 
AFAIK.  So just about any Mac you'd want to get online could handle 
dialing in to this sort of connection.


ARA Server used to share up MacIP connections.  In that case, you'd 
set the dialing Mac (the one making the call) to have AppleTalk set 
to "Remote Only" and set TCP/IP to "AppleTalk (MacIP)".  The 
connection would have an IP address, but it would be MacIP (TCP/IP 
encapsulated in AppleTalk).

At least in OS 9 (and possibly earlier), Apple implemented a 
single-user version of ARA Server (actually, I think this was what 
was formerly known as Apple Remote Access Personal Server) that can 
allow people to dial in.  It can serve up an AppleTalk connection or 
a PPP connection (or both).  The dailing Mac should have AppleTalk 
set to "Remote Only" and TCP/IP set to PPP.  AFAIK, MacIP is not 
supported, but I could be wrong about that.

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Re: WebCam & DigitalRadar SW (was Re: Where to find "QuickTimeLib")

[Andrew Kershaw]

ARA software:
[snip]
secondary issue: I kinda lost count of what was bundled into the 
later 8.x OS's but as far as I know, ARA CLIENT is bundled; to 
connect to a server with ARA, you need the (non-free) ARA SERVER to 
be running on the machine you want to connect TO.
Not anymore.  ARA Client/Server is now implemented in the Remote 
Access control panel under OS 9 (and possibly 8.5+).  Well, a 
stripped down version of ARA Server, anyway, but good enough for a 
single user.
workaround for secondary issue:
[snip]
Again, definitely too complicated.  Although this approach might 
work, since remote access supports call answering, it's much easier 
to go that way.
 The "connect to server IP" CLIENT feature appeared in OS 8.x, but 
the SERVER IP part might not have been bundled for free until OS 9 
(this would mean you need OS 9 on the powerbook to serve this way). 
It would be free though, which ARA server might not be. Then from 
your remote Mac at home, you could use the "connect to server IP" 
feature in the chooser ( with 8.x or higher at home, this is bundled 
IIRC, might have appeared in 8.5) and connect to the 3400.
Actually, this appeared in 7.6, I believe.  But it's really a 
function of OpenTransport and the AppleShare extension.  OT 1.1.2 on 
System 7.5 ought to be able to do this.

[snip]
Above comments based on my ARA experience when my dept had it, 8.x 
era, purchased and running on one of their Apple servers. I could 
use ARA client on my 6400 with dialup to connect to the dept. 
servers. I'm pretty sure that for your machine to serve via 
AppleshareIP, you need OS 9 on it (the 3400). Someone will correct 
me if I'm wrong and perhaps confirm if I'm right about this.
Well, actually, it's AppleTalk encapsulated in TCP/IP, not 
"AppleShare IP" which is a distinct product/server software from 
Apple.  AppleShareIP is not a protocol.  The software Apple uses in 
OS 9 to allow File Sharing over TCP/IP is also not AppleShare IP - 
it's Open Door Networks' ShareWay IP Personal with a make over.  If 
you buy yourself ShareWay IP Personal, you can run it on at least OS 
8.0.  (I've got it nicely running on a 6100/60 with OS 8.1)  That 
will allow anyone with at least OT 1.1.2 and a relatively recent 
version of the AppleShare extension to connect to your Mac using the 
"Connect to Server..." button in the Chooser.  But, again, if you 
have OS 9.x, it's not needed.

One final note: Digital Radar is processor intensive, as I'm sure 
you've noticed. I'm using it on a 7100/80 to keep an eye on a 
university lab, and it takes FOREVER for me to be able to get the 
thing turned off so I can look over images, etc- click the mouse on 
the "stop monitoring", wait 1.5 min maybe for it to respond. I'm not 
sure how a 3400 compares to a 7100/80, but asking it to do the 
DRadar software, dial-up PPP, file sharing, AppleshareIP etc might 
be a BIG load on it, your connection might be too much for it and it 
crashes or locked up (hope for a reboot...).
That's a very good point.  Does the 7100/80 have any cache?  A 3400 
should put a 7100 to shame, anyway.  But it still might be a lot - 
especially since routing AppleTalk traffic from the network to the 
modem connection is _extremely_ processor intensive (though you 
wouldn't think it from the speed of the connection).

Best to put DRadar in your startup folder so it at least runs 
automatically after a crash.
Assuming you have some sort of crash-recovery system in place on the 
Mac connected the camera...  What were those little dongles called 
that you attached to the ADB port? They would detect a lock-up and 
force a reboot...  I need to find one of those for my server. ;-)

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Re: 3400c cannot charge the battery

[Tom and Lisa P]

In a message dated 8/25/2004 8:09:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Did you try to clean the battery contacts ?  Could it be the battery itself
?
Tried that; switched both the battery and the Power Supply board... no
difference. And both batteries charge just fine in a 3400/240 I have 
alongside...

One other thing: The 3400c will startup with just the battery as long as it
is not removed when off. But, if I shut the Powerbook down, then remove the
battery, the powerbook will not restart unless I plug it in.
And when I do that, it starts up immediately; w/ pressing the Power button.
Could all of this be related to a bad PRAM battery?
Thanks,
Craig W.
Atlanta GA
Hm... I doubt a PRAM battery could be the problem as I routinely 
test machines without them.  Maybe a bad PRAM chip ?  You tried the 
power manager reset, right ?

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Re: 3400c cannot charge the battery

[COCCORP]

In a message dated 8/25/2004 8:09:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Did you try to clean the battery contacts ?  Could it be the battery itself 
?

Tried that; switched both the battery and the Power Supply board... no 
difference. And both batteries charge just fine in a 3400/240 I have alongside...

One other thing: The 3400c will startup with just the battery as long as it 
is not removed when off. But, if I shut the Powerbook down, then remove the 
battery, the powerbook will not restart unless I plug it in.

And when I do that, it starts up immediately; w/ pressing the Power button. 
Could all of this be related to a bad PRAM battery?

Thanks,

Craig W.
Atlanta GA

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Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

[Brian]

I forgot to mention this:
On the Mac placing the call (the one in the field), you need to set 
AppleTalk to "Remote Only".  >Thereafter, you can use AppleShare in 
the Chooser to view your Mac network as you normally would if >you 
had a direct connection.
All this ARA provider stuff works in 8.6?  I thought it was still 
purchase-only at that time (for server).  That's easier than getting 
setup over a 3rd party provider then (via PPP), then.

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Re: 270c logic board

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In a message dated 8/25/2004 6:18:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> A couple of people on this list told me to check the RAM.  I switched the
>  RAM to my other 280 and it works well.  The hard drive appears OK, but
>  beyond putting another hard drive into the 270c with the same result, I 
have
>  not tested it.  

I am assuming that means the HD worked in the Duo 270c?

>  So, according to the Apple Service Source book I have a
>  defective logic board to check yet.  I guess I could use a replacement 
logic
>  board.  If anyone has one, or thinks maybe I overlooked something else, let
>  me know please.

What size of RAM module are you trying to use?

Did you try booting the 280c w/o any RAM installed?

Thanks,

Craig W.
Atlanta GA

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Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

[Andrew Kershaw]

Providing dial-in access to your computer
In addition to using your modem to connect to other computers or 
networks, you can use it to give yourself or others remote access 
to your computer.

When another user is connected, they can access shared files as if 
you were both connected to the same local network. The same file 
and user access privileges apply.
[snip]

If your computer is also connected to a local network:
You can grant a dial-in user access to the network:
*	Open the Remote Access control panel, open the RemoteAccess 
menu and choose the Answering command, then select "Allow access to 
entire network."
Any Mac on the network with File Sharing turned on will be available 
via the modem connection, provided that the option to allow access 
to the entire network is selected.  This might also give you access 
to the greater Internet if you are using a router.

I forgot to mention this:
On the Mac placing the call (the one in the field), you need to set 
AppleTalk to "Remote Only".  Thereafter, you can use AppleShare in 
the Chooser to view your Mac network as you normally would if you had 
a direct connection.

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Re: WebCam & DigitalRadar SW (was Re: Where to find "QuickTimeLib")

[Brian]

X.10 is interesting, thanks, but I don't have a
wireless card for the 3400. Plus I was hoping to set
up some means of dialing in via long distance and
managing the set-up (Connectix grayscale cam,
DigitalRadar SW, and the 3400 with OS 8.6).
you don't need a wireless card for the powerbook, x10 stuff records 
to a VCR.  If this is remote and noone should be coming by, one tape 
in the VCR will be fine for ages- it trips on IR, night or day, not 
light intensity- people are all that will trigger it.  So it won't 
need managed like the 3400 would, due to limited HD space and false 
captures.  And a 3400 is worth more $ than the entire x10 bundle, in 
case someone wants to steal your monitoring gear...).  Anyway:

ARA software:
1-You could somehow program (schedule date/time update? applescript? 
I'm sure it's do-able) a predictable time for the 3400 to be on the 
internet, but you would have to know its IP to connect to it. 
Difficult if you are using dialup, you would get a random IP from 
your providers modem pool, which could be BIG.
	workaround: get a free domain from www.dyndns.org, and use 
one of the free utils to map your dynamic IP (when your 3400 is 
online) to the name, so that you don't care what the IP is, when the 
3400 is online, the DNS lookup works.  Or run your own PPPd from a 
unix box or something and phone your box, you'd know the IP then :)

	secondary issue:  I kinda lost count  of what was bundled 
into the later 8.x OS's but as far as I know, ARA CLIENT is bundled; 
to connect to a server with ARA, you need the (non-free) ARA SERVER 
to be running on the machine you want to connect TO.
		workaround for secondary issue:  if you know the IP 
of your 3400 on the internet (via reverse lookup via DYNDNS as 
mentioned earlier is an easy way) you could login into it by using 
(in 8.6? maybe 9?) AppleshareIP SERVER.   The "connect to server IP" 
CLIENT feature appeared in OS 8.x, but the SERVER IP part might not 
have been bundled  for free until OS 9 (this would mean you need OS 9 
on the powerbook to serve this way).  It would be free though, which 
ARA server might not be.   Then from your remote Mac at home, you 
could use the "connect to server IP" feature in the chooser ( with 
8.x or higher at home, this is bundled IIRC, might have appeared in 
8.5) and connect to the 3400.  You could then copy picture files/ 
delete stuff not needed from the 3400.  I don't think you could 
change running applications though, but there might be some 
applescripts you can run to quit/start programs perhaps.  It has to 
be appleshareIP  not plain appletalk as dialup providers are not 
going to be routing appletalk for you.

	Above comments based on my ARA experience when my dept had 
it, 8.x era, purchased and running on one of their Apple servers. I 
could use ARA client on my 6400 with dialup to connect to the dept. 
servers.  I'm pretty sure that for your machine to serve via 
AppleshareIP, you need OS 9 on it (the 3400).  Someone will correct 
me if I'm wrong and perhaps confirm if I'm right about this.

	HTH.  It sounds like you've got the cam setup going OK.  Hope 
this helps you with the "managing" part.

One final note:  Digital Radar is processor intensive, as I'm sure 
you've noticed.  I'm using it on a 7100/80 to keep an eye on a 
university lab, and it takes FOREVER for me to be able to get the 
thing turned off so I can look over images, etc- click the mouse on 
the "stop monitoring", wait 1.5 min maybe for it to respond.  I'm not 
sure how a 3400 compares to a 7100/80, but asking it to do the DRadar 
software, dial-up PPP, file sharing, AppleshareIP etc might be a BIG 
load on it, your connection might be too much for it and it crashes 
or locked up (hope for a reboot...).  Best to put DRadar  in your 
startup folder so it at least runs automatically after a crash.  and 
set the "monitor times" so that in case of a crash, DRadar will be 
monitoring on its own without your having to click on any buttons.

Brian   (really, I'm an optimist deep down!)


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Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

[Andrew Kershaw]

(Everyone please excuse the cross-post, but George x-posted to both 
lists originally.)

George,
Open the Mac OS Help ("Help Viewer") in OS 9.  Type in "remote 
access" in the search field.  Look around a bit and you'll see:
Providing dial-in access to your computer
In addition to using your modem to connect to other computers or 
networks, you can use it to give yourself or others remote access to 
your computer.

When another user is connected, they can access shared files as if 
you were both connected to the same local network. The same file and 
user access privileges apply.

To enable dial-in access:
1   If necessary, set up your dialup modem.
2   Open the Remote Access control panel.
3   Open the RemoteAccess menu and choose Answering.
4   Select the Answer Calls option.
To provide dial-in access for a specific user:
1   Open the File Sharing control panel and click the Users & Groups tab.
2   Select the user and click Open.
3   Open the Show pop-up menu and choose Remote Access.
4   Select "Allow user to dial in to this computer."
If your computer is also connected to a local network:
You can grant a dial-in user access to the network:
*	Open the Remote Access control panel, open the RemoteAccess 
menu and choose the Answering command, then select "Allow access to 
entire network."
Any Mac on the network with File Sharing turned on will be available 
via the modem connection, provided that the option to allow access to 
the entire network is selected.  This might also give you access to 
the greater Internet if you are using a router.

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Re: 3400c cannot charge the battery

[Tom and Lisa P]

Hi,
My 3400c/200 is doing something screwy...
It will not startup off the battery, or charge it. BUT it does see the
battery, and will run off of it (even if I unplug the powerbook 
right after the
startup chime!) w/o any problems.

I have reset the PRAM, and the Power Manager. I have also replaced the Power
Supply board; no dice.
Don't tell me it's the mobo!
Craig W.
The Hot'Lanta Texan
Did you try to clean the battery contacts ?  Could it be the battery itself ?
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3400c cannot charge the battery

[COCCORP]

Hi,

My 3400c/200 is doing something screwy...

It will not startup off the battery, or charge it. BUT it does see the 
battery, and will run off of it (even if I unplug the powerbook right after the 
startup chime!) w/o any problems.

I have reset the PRAM, and the Power Manager. I have also replaced the Power 
Supply board; no dice.

Don't tell me it's the mobo!

Craig W.
The Hot'Lanta Texan

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Re: 270c logic board

[Jonathan Newman]

Apple did the same thing with their 500 series laptops.
 - Jonathan

On Aug 25, 2004, at 4:13 PM, Tom and Lisa P wrote:
Yep, the 270c and 280c screens are identical.  The 280 and 280c 
motherboards are the same thing.  You can even use a 280 (B&W) screen 
on a 270c motherboard.

Mad Dog

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Re: Powerbook 280c

[Jonathan Newman]

What is a "Car Boot Sale"?
 - Jonathan

On Aug 25, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Tom and Lisa P wrote:
I picked up a 280c at a car boot sale recently and after replacing the
HD and refurbishing the battery it is a surprisingly useful laptop
which lasts for a good hour or so on the battery, now I believe it has
a built in modem but the connector is a mini din like the serial ports
though I am led to believe it requires a special cable which you can
plug into a telephone line, are these cables available still, or is
there any information on them?
Also can OS 7.5 communicate via a GSM mobile phone with a serial cable
to access the internet on the road.
Regards Sean.

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Re: 270c logic board

[Tom and Lisa P]

Alternatively, will a 270c screen work on a 280/280c computer that was
operating well with a black and white screen since new?  Are the chipset and
drivers OK in that other good machine, or would I have to change the logic
board in that also?
Yep, the 270c and 280c screens are identical.  The 280 and 280c 
motherboards are the same thing.  You can even use a 280 (B&W) screen 
on a 270c motherboard.

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Re: Powerbook 280c

[Tom and Lisa P]

I picked up a 280c at a car boot sale recently and after replacing the
HD and refurbishing the battery it is a surprisingly useful laptop
which lasts for a good hour or so on the battery, now I believe it has
a built in modem but the connector is a mini din like the serial ports
though I am led to believe it requires a special cable which you can
plug into a telephone line, are these cables available still, or is
there any information on them?
Also can OS 7.5 communicate via a GSM mobile phone with a serial cable
to access the internet on the road.
Regards Sean.
With the duo facing you and the ports facing away, the right side 
port is a modem; either a 14.4 or 19.2.THere may be no port if there 
is no modem installed.  On the left side, there is a serial port. 
This is a standard mac serial port from what I remember.

I dont know about the GSM phone.
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Re: 5300 & 8.6 TIA

[Daniel De L'eau]

I'm running 8.6 on my 5300c, and it works much more reliably than
7.6.1 in my experience, although it takes up lots more memory and
disk space.
I transferred all of my hard disk info from my old 7500, which is
where I originally installed 8.6.
My installation CD was also meant for G3 only, and it did not want to
install onto my 7500 using the disk's usual install route ( the
install icon when you first look at ).  I was only able to install it
by looking deeper into the disk's folders for a second installer,
which I seem to remember was only two or three folders deep.  (I
don't have a CD ROM right now so I can't look to confirm)  This
installer doesn't seem to care what computer you're loading onto, as
long as it's PowerPC.
Try that, and it should work just fine. (fingers crossed)

I have a 5300 that I am trying to load 8.6 on to and it won't
install.  It is a disk from a g3.
Could this be why it won't load?  Do I need a different version?
All I am wanting to do with the 5300 is be able to install Office 98
for mac on it.  What is the lowest level of os that will run Office
98?
It currently has 7.5 on it.
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270c logic board

[Dan Sirks]

My 270c/280c still does not boot.  The initial chime does not come on.
However, the 8 chimes indicating a hardware problem does sound when I turn
it on.  Well, I got the screen to light up for a split second twice, so I do
think that the screen is OK.  So, it seems that I have an initial hardware
problem before the booting stage.

A couple of people on this list told me to check the RAM.  I switched the
RAM to my other 280 and it works well.  The hard drive appears OK, but
beyond putting another hard drive into the 270c with the same result, I have
not tested it.  So, according to the Apple Service Source book I have a
defective logic board to check yet.  I guess I could use a replacement logic
board.  If anyone has one, or thinks maybe I overlooked something else, let
me know please.

Alternatively, will a 270c screen work on a 280/280c computer that was
operating well with a black and white screen since new?  Are the chipset and
drivers OK in that other good machine, or would I have to change the logic
board in that also?

I am a novice, but I have changed RAM, hard drives, and trackpads in Duos
and am not afraid (at the value of these nowadays) to completely tear it
apart.  I do like the lightness and size of the machines and others seem to
like them also.

Also, I tried booting from an auxiliary hard drive with the same result.
Maybe someone has tried putting a larger hard drive in these machine.  I
would love a bigger hard drive.

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Re: Powerbook 520 Power Adapter

[Volk (contractor)]

Sean,
   I can send you a .PDF of the Users and Service Manuals if you have 
the space for tthe downloads.  The service manual is 2100 kB and the 
users is 1963 kB.  Your assumption about the dual batteries is correct, 
the correct ac power adapter is M1983, I would imagine that someone on 
this list or the LEM list would would answer a WTB.

Roger
Sean Billings wrote:
Hello,
I have recently got hold of a PB520 but unfortunately it has no power 
adapter with it, no problem I though I'm sure I could get something 
working, until I looked at the connector!

First of all I don't know how easy this 4 pin connector is to get, and 
secondly I have found out that 1 pair supplys charge for the battery 
and the other pair runs the laptop, for the time being I just want to 
run the laptop so does anyone know what the pin connections are for 
this connector?

Also the unit came with 1 battery but it looks like it can take 2 
batteries either side, would the machine have come with 2 batteries 
from new?

Regards Sean.
 


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Powerbook 280c

[Sean Billings]

I picked up a 280c at a car boot sale recently and after replacing the 
HD and refurbishing the battery it is a surprisingly useful laptop 
which lasts for a good hour or so on the battery, now I believe it has 
a built in modem but the connector is a mini din like the serial ports 
though I am led to believe it requires a special cable which you can 
plug into a telephone line, are these cables available still, or is 
there any information on them?

Also can OS 7.5 communicate via a GSM mobile phone with a serial cable 
to access the internet on the road.

Regards Sean.

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Powerbook 520 Power Adapter

[Sean Billings]

Hello,

I have recently got hold of a PB520 but unfortunately it has no power 
adapter with it, no problem I though I'm sure I could get something 
working, until I looked at the connector!

First of all I don't know how easy this 4 pin connector is to get, and 
secondly I have found out that 1 pair supplys charge for the battery 
and the other pair runs the laptop, for the time being I just want to 
run the laptop so does anyone know what the pin connections are for 
this connector?

Also the unit came with 1 battery but it looks like it can take 2 
batteries either side, would the machine have come with 2 batteries 
from new?

Regards Sean.

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Re: LF: SW to communicate two Macs via modem dial-in

[George Mogiljansky]

Hi, 
The real question is: how to dial-in to the remote
Mac? And if Internet Access is needed, how to get the
remote Mac to dial-up?
George

--- Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> On Aug 24, 2004, at 6:48 AM, George Mogiljansky
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > LF: SW that allows me to dial-in to a remote Mac
> > (that's hooked up via the phone line outlet with
> its
> > modem ready) from my home Mac. I need to perform
> basic
> > maintenance & transfer data (probably both ways)
> using
> > Classic OS.
>
> Zterm may do what you want. Apple Remote Access
> might as well...I
> dimply seem to recall something about ARA letting
> you connect from the
> outside.
>
> > --
> Bruce Johnson





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Re: setting up an 520C with DSL/network

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 24, 2004, at 5:19 PM, cyber corsair wrote:
this is stander 520c 32mgs 300+ meg scsi hd I'm not using the wifi bot 
trying to conect with ethernet using at Friendlynet Asante ethernet 
adapter. they have ethernet connection at the coffee shop. I would 
love to take this system to up to a PPC cpu abd get a wifi card but i 
haven't see any of the need parts for sale for some time.

I figer I'll need open transport to get the erhernet work?
thanks all
Yeah. BTW, that machine will run OS 8.1 very happily. I have a 540C set 
up similarly, with 8.1 it's a damned fine machine, where any Windows 
system from 1994 is a boat anchor. We just surplussed a bunch of 
Windows laptops of that age and they're so crude and limited compared 
to my Blackbird

But just get OT 1.1.2 from here 
 and 
you can run it fine with 7.5, too.


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WebCam & DigitalRadar SW (was Re: Where to find "QuickTimeLib")

[George Mogiljansky]

Hi Brain, 

Yes, I am still testing this. I did find a way to
mount the cam near the doorway but internally, facing
the door. There is a porch and I expect to leave a
porch light on 24/7, esp. if it will help prevent
'false' photos.

The length of the cable seems sufficient. I was
thinking about using a serial extension cable, but
none available locally and so far not strictly nec.

X.10 is interesting, thanks, but I don't have a
wireless card for the 3400. Plus I was hoping to set
up some means of dialing in via long distance and
managing the set-up (Connectix grayscale cam,
DigitalRadar SW, and the 3400 with OS 8.6).

Details to follow,
George

--- Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Perhaps reread my post from a week or so ago :).  It
> WILL trip as
> light changes.  You can control a little bit how
> many pictures are
> taken by changing the sensitivity.  more
> sensitivity= better motion
> detection=more false positive pictures.
>
> FYI, in case you can't do what you want with the
> quickcam,
> www.x10.com had complete setups for wireless cams,
> IR sensing, and
> VCR recording for $80, no shipping fee, when I
> checked last week.
> It's pretty cheap to add extra cams/motion sensors
> to the setup.
>
> How are you wiring this?  I'd be surprised if the
> cable could be much
> over 10 or 15 ft.  Does it work OK?
>
> B




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Display blackout, in stages

[Paul Simons]

Hello 1400 List,
  My 1400c started going bad by, now and then, showing vertical lines 2mm 
apart on the top half of the screen. Then, the backlight went, but by angling 
the reflection I could still make out what was on the screen. Then, total 
balckout. I tried turning it off and on a few times. I could hear the chimes and 
the hard drive working, but no screen. 

  Any help appreciated. I can do electronics work, I've seen other problems like 
this ascribed to blown fuses. But - why did fuses blow? Where are they on the 
circuit boards, what values, what does DigiKey call them? Thanks for any help, 
Paul in Pennsylvania

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Re: setting up an 520C with DSL/network

[Howard R. Katz]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, cyber corsair wrote:

>
> this is stander 520c 32mgs 300+ meg scsi hd I'm not using the wifi bot
> trying to conect with ethernet using at Friendlynet Asante ethernet
> adapter. they have ethernet connection at the coffee shop. I would love
> to take this system to up to a PPC cpu abd get a wifi card but i haven't
> see any of the need parts for sale for some time.
>
> I figer I'll need open transport to get the erhernet work?
> thanks all

Open Transport is necessary.  Once installed and you do a restart, choose
the ethernet connection from both the PPP and the AppleTalk control
panels.  The last one had me a bit confused the 1st time I put my 520c on
an ethernet/DSL connection--I didn't have that set to ethernet and nothing
happened.  Even tho there's not another Mac on the setup, the PB wanted
this turned on.  After that, I could telnet or use a web browser without
any problems.


Later.Howard


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