Re: OS9 for PB 3400c

[josephc22]

On Jan 20, 2006, at 3:32 PM, PowerBooks wrote:


From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OS9 for PB 3400c

Thanks for the info. I'm now thinking I may stay with 8.1, but I've  
hit a
possible show-stopper anyway - can't find my Word 6 CD (if it was  
on CD to
start with). I guess I could try copying the Word folder over to my  
Beige G3
and then copy it back afterwards. Or I might Google around for a  
freeware

text editor. Don't need much more than simple text editing really.


You might take a look at Nisus Compact ( http://www.nisus.com/free/ 
Login_nw.php ). It's free, it's quick, and it's reasonably full  
featured.


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Re: Used PowerBook 165 - some questions

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On Dec 15, 2005, at 12:20 PM, Zsolt Gyula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Also, I've read somewhere that starting from OS 7.x, a Mac<->PC  
Transfer program should be included in the system.


Hi Zsolt,

Look for a Control Panel called "PC Exchange." It's included with  
7.5, but if it wasn't originally on your Powerbook, I'm not sure if  
the 7.5.5 upgrade would have added it.


Good luck!

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Re: Word processing on 68K.

[josephc22]

On Aug 15, 2005, at 3:32 PM, PowerBooks wrote:


From: Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Word processing on 68K.
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 07:09:27 -0700 (PDT)



Word 5.1 is compatible with newer things, in fact if you get the free
plugins from Microsoft it will read the newest Mac and PC versions.



Explain?


You can download and install the "Microsoft Word 97, 98, and 2000  
Converter for the Macintosh" which allows MS Word 5/6 to read Word  
97/98/2000 files, which also means that it will read almost all files  
created by Word 2001/2003/2004/etc., too.


To find the file, go to http://www.microsoft.com/downloads and search  
for "word 5.1".


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Re: pcmcia for powerbooks

[josephc22]

Looks like you need driver software. You might give CD SpeedTools a  
try -

http://www.speedtools.com/CDInfo.shtml

It's commercial software, but you can download a fully functional  
demo to make sure whether or not it will work on your system (the  
demo disables itself after a certain number of reboots)  -

http://www.speedtools.com/CDDemo.shtml



On Aug 4, 2005, at 3:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 00:24:34 EDT
Subject: pcmcia for powerbooks

How can I use my PCMCIA EXP portable cd-rom with a PB1400.

A little icon shows up on the screen, but the 1400 says it can't  
use it or

something like that.



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Re: Macintosh HD Format

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Dan Palka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 19:13:42 -0500
>
>How is this even possible???

and Fluxstringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> speculated:

>Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:58:03 -0400
>From: Fluxstringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Macintosh HD Format My Guess
>
>My guess is that PlusMaker analyses the drive. then finds a free 
>space to copy a block  of data to Then rewrites that section to the 
>new HFS + nad copies the data back onto the new formatted block.
>
>It would proceed to write the whole drive this way.
>
>Just a guess..
>
>Oh, you meant how can they sell it for $ 30 bucks.   I don't know.

Which sounds about right to me.

By the way, although I didn't find the exact answer to Dan's question on 
Altsoft's site, I highly recommend the "Ask Al" section of 
http://www.altsoft.com as a resource for how disks and filesystems work. 
The "search by subject" area is a gem.




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Re: Macintosh HD Format

[JosephC22]

Alsoft makes a nifty little $30 utility called "PlusMaker" which can 
convert your drive without reformatting. I've used it on several drives.

http://www.alsoft.com/PlusMaker/index.html

However, while I've never had a problem with PlusMaker, be sure to backup 
your important files -- just in case -- before converting the drive!

-j

Noah Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 5/5/05 9:44 AM wrote:

>How can I change my HD Format from standard to extended by saving all
>my data, or is this impossible.  I have a Power Book 1400/133 with a 1
>GIG HD and OS 8.1 installed.  Thanks!





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Re: better browser for OS9.2.2

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Cliff Rediger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 2/20/05 4:12 PM wrote:

>Funny. No one mentions Opera.
>I wonder if Opera is defunct.

Opera is still out there, but the latest version (v7) only supports OS X. 
You need to use version 6 if you want to run MacOS 8/9.

Coincidentally, Opera was in the news a week or two ago. Opera's CTO 
wrote an editorial in "The Register" that challenged some of Microsoft's 
recent claims about internet browser standards and interoperability 
compliance.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/11/hakon_on_ms_interroperability/

-j




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Re: better browser for OS9.2.2

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martin on 2/18/05 4:12 PM wrote:

>If I were to adopt a new browser, which one would be an intelligent 
>choice?  Keeping in mind that I plan to run my Powerbook into the 
>ground, running OS9.2.2. My older 'books run System 7.1, so I assume 
>their Internet lifespan is severely limited.

Hi Martin,

You might also try the Opera browser. Opera 6 is the last version that 
works under OS8/9. I actually like iCab a little better than Opera, but 
Opera seems to be more stable on my machines and gives reasonable 
performance.

http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=mac&ver=6.03

For System 7, maybe you should give Apple's old Cyberdog a try. (Some 
days I feel like an old cyberdog, myself :-)

-Joe




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Re: Thoughts on presentation options for PB 1400

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I have the same configuration, except that I have only 40 MB RAM. I've 
used it several times for presentations, and I've only come across a 
couple of issues:

1) As you already pointed out, make sure that you have an appropriate 
adapter, e.g. Mac-to-VGA. Some older projectors include traditional Mac 
connectors, as well. We have an older InFocus model in the office which 
has a Mac cable.

2) Make sure the projector natively supports the resolution at which you 
would like to display, e.g. 800 x 600 (SVGA) or 832 x 624. Otherwise you 
will get ugly scaling effects when you try to display the image. XGA 
should also be fine.

3) It is usually worth it to buy the brightest projector (measured in 
lumens) you can afford. If you try to use an underpowered projector in a 
bright room, you'd be better off using a flip chart or a chalk board!

4) Always, always, always try to practice your presentation in the same 
room in which you will give the presentation, using the same equipment 
(computer, projector, network, etc.) and the same lighting that will be 
in use during the real presentation. Sometimes colors which look great on 
a computer monitor will look too light or too dark on a projector. 
Conference organizers usually set aside  time to allow speakers to do 
this -- if they don't, try to arrange an on-site practice session before 
the conference.

Outside of that, it should work like a charm. Good luck!

-j


[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/21/04 5:04 PM wrote:

>Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 01:18:04 -0500
>From: Bill Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Thoughts on presentation options for PB 1400
>
>I have a conference workshop to run in a few months and I want to 
>incorporate my 1400 by showing some web site examples on-screen to 
>the audience...and perhaps a Powerpoint presentation as well.
>
>My 1400 is running 8.6, has a 217 mhz G3, is maxed at 64MB RAM -- 192 
>with Ram Doubler -- and sports the VIEWpowr vid card for video out. 
>I've only used a conventional external monitor in the past, and 
>that's always been a snap, but I have no clue what to look for in 
>terms of a projector. Other than a standard VGA connector, is there 
>anything in particular I should look for -- or look OUT for?
>
>Thanks,
>Bill
>
>-- 
>Bill Wilson
>Creative Director
>Wilson-Lewis-Wilson Design
>www.wlwdesign.com





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Re: I'm growing sick with my old pb 1400

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/6/04 5:04 PM wrote:

>>> If I hold shipt-option-command-backspace while booting, it will
>>> not read the cd, let alone boot from it. The question mark comes
>>> out instead. It bootes from the hd when I release the keys.
>---
>That's wrong. Hold down the "C" key to boot from CD.

As I once discovered after spending far too much time trying to do so, 
the PowerBook 1400 models do not boot from cd-rom when holding the "C" 
key.

The original post was correct: to boot a 1400 from the cd-rom, press 
"cmd-opt-shift-delete" instead. Admittedly, not one of Apple's shining 
moments of user interface clarity. For those who are curious, there are 
some interesting variations on the "cmd-opt-shift-delete" theme at
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/ASCC/documentation/mackeys.html

I hope your mailbox isn't getting swamped with messages from 1400 users 
who were similarly affected.  ;-)

>It sounds like you have a progressive extension conflict. Try opening with
>extensions off. Boot with the shift key (only) down, then come back and
>report what happened.

Booting with the shift key will ignore the cd-rom drive entirely, since 
the OS won't be able to load the CD driver. However, this does suggest an 
interesting approach: on the off-chance that it is a driver problem, some 
third party cd-rom software ships with programs that can load a cd driver 
after booting. If the problem is not a seriously mis-aligned laser (which 
is my personal bet), maybe a different driver would work. Intech's 
SpeedTools can be loaded after booting with extensions turned off, and a 
downloadable demo is available ( http://www.speedtools.com/CDDemo.html ). 
FWB CD-ROM Toolkit might also do the same, but I'm not sure. 




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Re: I'm growing sick with my old pb 1400

[JosephC22]

Most likely problem - the laser in your CD-ROM drive is out of focus.

If so, you have a couple of options:

1) You can try to re-focus the laser. You can find instructions with 
pictures towards the bottom of this website -
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/gionpeters//pb1400.htm

2) Buy a replacement cd-rom. They are cheap on eBay, and many used mac 
vendors will supply them as well. Also, there is a reasonably common 24x 
Teac mechanism found in some PC laptops which can be adapted for use in 
the 1400 (google search for "powerbook 1400 teac" for more info).




[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/4/04 5:03 PM wrote:

>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: "Francesco Sforza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: I'm growing sick with my old pb 1400
>Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 14:53:03 +0100
>
>It reads cd-rms selectively and however slowly.The strange thing is that it
>reads house-writed cds, and refuses to read apple's installation disks. Even
>whe it decides that a cd is worth of reading, id takes hours. Sometimes I go
>out for lunch and I find the cd image on the desktop when back. The light
>blinks weakly
> {stuff deleted}




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Re: Best 68k Powerbook?

[JosephC22]

With the right versions of software, the Duo 270c and 280c can be 
excellent choices for extremely portable word processing and email -- and 
with color displays, too!

You can still find memory cards to bring the 270c up to 24 MB or the 280c 
to 40 MB, which will let you run System 7.1, MS Word 5.1, PowerPoint 3 or 
4, Excel 4, and Claris Emailer with surprisingly good performance. 
Needless to say (almost), word processors like WriteNow or Nisus Compact 
are even better in the performance department.

While the built-in modem is a little slow, you can add an external modem 
or add a duo dock for SCSI, ethernet, and an external monitor.

http://lowendmac.com/pb/270c.shtml
http://lowendmac.com/pb/280c.shtml




Ruffin Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 1/26/04 2:59 PM wrote:

{stuff deleted}

>So just for the heck of discussion, if you didn't want to go "all the way 
>up" to a 1400, what would you recommend, and why?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ruffin Bailey





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Re: Boot crash OS 8.6

[JosephC22]

The DragLib function is actually built into the MacOS 8.6 System file, so 
it sounds like the problem is coming from an old extension that is 
explicitly trying to open the old DragLib file. Look for extensions circa 
1990-1993 and disable them one by one until you find the culprit.

By the way, does your mac boot okay if you start with extensions off? (To 
check this, hold down the shift key while restarting - the startup screen 
should say "Extensions Off".)

Another approach would be to open the Extensions Manager control panel 
and select "MacOS Only" and reboot. Old Apple extensions and non-Apple 
extensions would be moved to the "Extensions (Disabled)" folder in the 
System Folder. Then you can try adding them back to the extensions folder 
one by one (or a couple at a time) and rebooting to find the culprit.

Finally, if you can find a copy of Conflict Catcher, that might be a very 
big help.

Ken Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 1/21/04 4:58 PM wrote:

>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:11:23 EST
>> Subject: Re: Boot crash OS 8.6
>> 
>> DragLib is an ancient extension (System 7 vintage). You don't need it for
>> any MacOS 7.5 or higher, so if you are running 8.6, feel free to remove
>> it.
>---
>OK, thanks, but some part of the system wants it, which is why it quits
>booting, i.e., because it can't find it.
>
>I need to know the extension it's part of or which requires it to boot with
>ext's.
>
>I'll take another shot.
>
>
>Thanx again,
>Ken N.





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Re: Boot crash OS 8.6

[JosephC22]

DragLib is an ancient extension (System 7 vintage). You don't need it for 
any MacOS 7.5 or higher, so if you are running 8.6, feel free to remove 
it.

>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:12:59 +0100
>From: VidaVerde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Boot crash OS 8.6
>
>>I'm getting a near finish boot crash with a missing system extension
>>DragLib, but I don't know to who it belongs...maybe Stuffit?
>
>
>I think it is part of OS 8.6 itself?
>
>sorry not more precise, im now on 9.1 so cant check.
>Ben
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Re: PBook 1400 desperation

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David Thrower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 1/10/04 4:57 PM wrote:

>I took it apart and discovered discoloration on the
>top of the top RAM module from the heat sink coming in
>contact with it - which struck me as being extremely
>not-cool.

I noticed what sounds like the same kind of discoloration on my NewerTech 
G3-upgraded 1400 a few years ago, but it's been running like a champ for 
years. (loud sounds of knocking on wood heard in background)




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Re: Old programs...

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 1/5/04 5:05 PM wrote:

>And oh yes, I also came accross a disc of MkLinux.  It says, MkLinux 
>developer release 1 May 1996.  Yes, I know, it's very old, as is much of 
>my mac software. Still, is it worth my while to load up on this little 
>laptop?
> PB 1400c/166 w/ 233 Vimage G3 processor in it
> 64 megs of RAM, OS 9.1

You'll need developer release 3 or newer to run on the 1400. However, I'd 
hesitate before installing on the 1400. 64 MB of RAM is a bit low, 
especially if you want to install newer software. Also, even with DR3 or 
newer, you still have to jump through hoops to get a successful 
installation, and, if I remember correctly, ethernet still isn't 
supported on the 1400 under linux. See the following for more info:
http://lppcfom.sourceforge.net/fom-serve/cache/1.html 
http://lppcfom.sourceforge.net/fom-serve/cache/106.html 
http://www.mklinux.org

Unless you're a serious hardware hacker, if you want to experiment with 
linux on the mac, you'd probably get more satisfaction trying it on a 
cheap 8500 or a powerbook 3400.




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Re: A 1400, OS9.1, and iTunes

[JosephC22]

>Can anyone share info about which version of iTunes would be best for a 
>G3 1400, running 9.1? I tried using the version Apple suggests for 9.1, 
>that's 2.0.2, and it crashes upon play. Is there an earlier version that 
>works? Anyone know where to get it off the net? 
>
>thanks,
>max

v 1.1 works like a champ on my 1400 w/44 MB real RAM (Ram Doubled to 88 
MB). Depending how much RAM you have on the 1400, you might want to run 
OS 8.6 instead. There is a patch on the net which will let iTunes 1.1 run 
under 8.6. You can search the archives of this list for more info.




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Re: 1400 & a Sonnet G3 400Mhz Upgrade

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Hi Jonathan,

Search for "iTunes 1.1" at 
http://www.info.apple.com/support/downloads.html
Version 1.0 should also be there.

Interestingly, there is a pretty simple patch that lets iTunes 1.1 run on 
MacOS 8.6 -- it works well as a foreground app on my OS 8.6 1400 (G3 
upgraded, 44 MB RAM), but it stutters a little when I try to listen and 
load web pages at the same time. Search google for "8.6 itunes hack" for 
more info...

-j



[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/25/03 4:51 PM wrote:

>From: Jonathan Metts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: 1400 & a Sonnet G3 400Mhz Upgrade
>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:28:32 -0600
>
>Where might I be able to find iTunes 1.x?  I have 2.0.4 and hoped it 
>would work on my 1400.  I had installed it and opened the app, but it 
>kept freezing.  I thought it was due to the limited RAM I have and I 
>had thought that maxing it out at 64MB would do the trick.  I also 
>thought the problem was also with the Crescendo driver.  Are we sure 
>that the 2.0.4 version will not work?  Does it look for a USB port and 
>get its information elsewhere?
>
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Re: 1400 & a Sonnet G3 400Mhz Upgrade

[JosephC22]

Hi Jonathan,

If you upgrade the drive on your 1400 to something larger than four 
gigabytes, do not connect the 1400 to your G4 in SCSI Disk Mode (aka HD 
Target Mode). Pre-G3 Powerbook models have a hardware ROM bug which can 
cause loss of data when using a drive larger than 4 GB in this mode., so 
stick with ethernet.

See http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1116.html for more info.

-Joe

[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/24/03 4:51 PM wrote:

>On another note, I have thought about purchasing a MobileStor drive 
>from MCE (Other World Computing).  I have heard that a 1400 would see a 
>huge speed benefit from such a HD upgrade, especially sided with a chip 
>upgrade.  I have my eye fixed on the 40GB with an 8MB cache (just 
>slightly more than the other 40GB HD).  I have thought of turning this 
>little thing into a storage for my MP3's that I can connect to my G4, 
>either through SCSI (if possible) or ethernet.  Has anyone ever used 
>these drives, and does anyone see any cons in doing this.  Also, what 
>was the last iTunes released for OS 9.1 and where could I find it?





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Re: Dayna Communicard Ethernet Adapter Software?

[JosephC22]

I did a little digging, and you can download the drivers from Intel. 
Intel bought Dayna (or maybe it was Intel bought MHz who bought Dayna? I 
dunno...).

Anyway, Intel's Communicard page is at 
http://www.intel.com/support/dayna/ccmactrb.htm

and you can download the drivers by following the navigating the download 
links on the above page or by going directly to
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/proc/T8Clearance.asp?url=/648/en
g/cc23mac.hqx&agr=N&ProductID=440

I applaud Intel for maintaining a fairly complete support site ( 
http://www.intel.com/support/dayna/ ) for the full line of acquired Dayna 
products, even though they have long since stopped selling them.

Cheers,
Joe


[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 9/4/03 4:50 PM wrote:

>Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 23:58:50 -0500
>From: macnifico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Dayna Communicard Ethernet Adapter Software?
>Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Hi, listers!
>
>I need the Dayna Communicard Ethernet Adapter software for my 1400c w. 
>MacOS 9.1, as the card does not function.
>I did a Google search, and found only an old version, 1.2.1.
>Another version, 2.3, is corrupted on the only site that carries it.
>So, if anyone out there has a copy or knows where to get a newer OS 8.6 
>or 9.1 compatible version, please contact me off list.
>Best regards.
>Hugo Diaz
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-- 
>"The only thing we knew for sure about Henry Porter is that his name 
>wasn't Henry Porter"
>Bob Dylan, "Brownsville Girl"





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Re: PB 1400 question

[JosephC22]

The plastic screen was standard on the 1400, along with a few preprinted 
inserts. Since they were on PowerBooks, Apple called them "BookCovers". 
The 1400s shipped with eps and ClarisWorks templates so that you could 
make your own BookCovers (the templates might also be part of OS 7.5.3; 
look in the Apple Extras folder).

-J


[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 8/1/03 4:36 PM wrote:

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:16:42 EDT
>Subject: PB 1400 question
>
>
>In a message dated 8/1/03 3:24:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>>I would appreciate any help from fellow listers as to appropriate action
>>on my part in response to this.  Please email me off list.
>
>Er okay 
>
>ANYWAY, I have a question regarding Powerbook 1400s
>
>Previously (yesterday, in fact), I pounced upon a Powerbook 1400cs/166, 
>which 
>I promptly purchased for a pittiance...
>
>The 1400cs has a clear, plastic top that runs the width of the laptop, and 
>goes from the very front by the latch to about mid-way across the top...
>
>It also has paper inserted in it, with a printed pattern on it
>
>It looks OEM, but I have never seen a PB like this... was this something 
>specifically for educator-macs? I ask because the laptop also had a school 
>badge 
>on it...
>
>Thanks... 
>
>Craig W.





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Re: linux on a powerbook ?

[JosephC22]

1) See the FAQ at http://lppcfom.sourceforge.net/fom-serve/cache/350.html 
for hints on partial support of the 1400 by MkLinux.

2) See http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/ for info on efforts to port 
linuxppc to the NuBus architecture, including the 1400.

3) If I remember correctly, ethernet support was spotty at best: you 
pretty mch had to have one of the built-in cards, as PMCIA/PC cards were 
not supported. Unless you're experienced with linux at a fairly deep 
level, you might be better off selling the 1400 and buying a cheap 
Lombard G3 or a 3400 instead.

4)Tenon Intersystems developed a very cool implementation of BSD as a 
MacOS application called Power MachTen. Essentially, the complete unix 
system runs as a MacOS app, and it supports the usual assortment of open 
source software (e.g. Apache, Perl), X Windows, etc. I used to run it all 
the time on my 44 MB PB 1400 under MacOS 8.6, and the performance was 
pretty decent. Tenon is closing it out at $99. See 
http://www.tenon.com/closeout_order.shtml

Joe

[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 7/8/03 1:33 PM wrote:

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:30:39 EDT
>Subject: linux on a powerbook ?
>
>hi all :) 
>  Im new to this list and in need of some serious help ! :)  I have a 
>powerbook 1400c/166 which is currently running mac os 8. It is my intention 
>to 
>put some form of linux or unix onto this machine.  From what i have read the 
>only version of linux that has any chance of compatability is mklinux which 
>doesn't support pcmcia on the powerbook.  NetBSD isn't compatable either 
>although maybe other unix version are ???
> If anyone knows of a version of linux or unix that they have successfully 
>installed on a powerbook 1400c then id love to hear from you!!! 
>
>any help appreciated
>
>Paul




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Re: Best OS for a 5300

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victoria brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 3/28/03 wrote:

>Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:46:12 -0800
>Subject: Re: Best OS for a 5300
>From: victoria brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I agree with the speed improvements, and especially with the advantages of
>Copy Agents, but wonder if I'm the only person in the known universe (AKA
>this list) to have encountered application conflicts with SpeedDoubler?
>Hypercard, SimpleText, and Battery Recondition all refused to run with it
>loaded:  the identical symptoms have occurred on a 5300c under 8.5, on a
>5300ce under 7.5.5, and after several months with no problems, on a 7600
>(desktop) under 8.6. It all became so annoying that I've given up on SD
>altogether (rather regretfully).
>
>Best,
>Victoria 

I haven't had that problem. Battery Recondition 1.5 and SimpleText 1.4, 
and HyperCard 2.2 work reliably for me (PB 1400cs/upgraded to G3, MacOS 
8.6, 44 MB RAM doubled to 88 using RamDoubler 9.0.1).

Were you running SpeedDoubler 8.1.2? It was much more reliable than some 
of the earlier versions...

When I've run into problems on my PowerBook, it's usually been because 
some legacy program insists on installing an older version of an 
extension on my system. Believe it or not, I started seeing a bunch of 
crashes recently, and I discovered that something had installed a MacOS 
7.something version of the Network control panel on my v8.6 system! You 
might want to try running with Conflict Catcher 8 or newer (you can 
download a fully functional demo from http://www.casadyg.com/ ) or 
installing a clean system.

Best regards,
Joe




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Re: Best OS for a 5300

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:40:22 -0400
>Subject: Re: Best OS for a 5300
>From: "Frank Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>{stuff deleted}
>
>The first is related to this thread. I've seen lots of posts on the
>"optimal" OS to run, some of them contradictory.  Specifically, will I
>really get a noticable benefit (i.e. when running IE 5.1) if I back-off to
>OS8.1? The sluggish finder I'm experiencing is annoying, but I can live with
>it, so I'm really interested in benefits that impact IE.

For IE, I doubt that you'll see any real improvement. The older ppc chip 
is just not fast enough to render all of the graphic elements and page 
layouts that we find in web pages today. If you set up IE so that it 
doesn't load images, you'll see an improvement.

>My second question relates to the usage of SpeedDoubler 8. I've also seen
>contradictary posts on this topic. The latest seems to conclude that it
>doesn't make any difference once you move to the later OSs (e.g. OS8.6).
>Will SpeedDoubler 8 really help me with my primary requirement (if I stay
>with OS8.6 or switch to OS8.1).

At worst, SpeedDoubler won't hurt, and you can always de-install it. 
While it is true that it is less useful with later versions of 
MacOS/applications (especially since more of these later programs are PPC 
native), I find that the Speed Copy function is still substantially 
faster than the OS routines, especially when copying files over a 
network, but even when copying on the same system. The "Copy Agent" 
feature is also great for performing lightweight backups. If you try it, 
be sure to use v8.1.2.

>Any other obvious (or not so obvious) things I should do to (or with) my
>5300 to make it more "zippy" with IE 5.1?
>
>And finally, am I expecting too much from my 5300 when I'd like a webpage to
>download/display in less than 5-10 seconds (on average)

Again, yes, unless you have graphics turned off.




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Re: Best OS for a 5300

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/27/03 7:04 PM wrote:

>> i've got 8.5 running on my 5300c.
>> you're only talking about 8.1 and 8.6 here. should i upgrade?

In general, 8.1 has BIG performance benefits over 8.0 (e.g. compare the 
speeds of opening windows in a list view in 8.1 vs 8.0).

Likewise, 8.6 tends to have better stability than 8.5, but with 
comparable resource requirements, so I almost always upgrade 8.5 systems 
to 8.6. Also, many third party vendors only support their software on 8.6 
or greater.




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Re: Best OS for 5300

[JosephC22]

Regarding RAM Doubler and Speed Doubler --

For RAM Doubler, be sure to check out the FAQ at 
http://www.connectix.com/support/library.html for a lot of good info. 
Here is an excerpt:

...Apple's Virtual Memory always requires the use of hard disk space to 
extend memory (1 MB for every MB of physical RAM, plus 1 MB), where as 
RAM Doubler does not...Since RAM Doubler does not require the use of hard 
disk space, this can mean power savings for iBook and PowerBook users. 
Virtual Memory must
access the hard drive to function, which means higher power consumption. 
RAM
Doubler only uses the hard drive when absolutely necessary. This means 
your
hard drive will be allowed to spin down more often, reducing power 
consumption
and thus extending use when operating on battery power...

For Speed Doubler, I think it's great, but be aware that it will not work 
with OS 9. I have a PB 1400 (upgraded to G3 cpu and 44 MB RAM), and the 
performance difference with Speed Doubler is noticable, hence I stay w/ 
OS 8.6.

As for the OS, you'll probably be happiest with 8.1 on a 5300, provided 
you have enough RAM. For performance reasons, I'd stay away from 8.6 on a 
5300 unless you need it in order to run key applications.

-Joe


victoria brandon on 3/23/03 8:54 PM wrote:

>Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 11:18:44 -0800
>Subject: Re: Best OS for 5300
>From: victoria brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>on 3/23/03 5:37 AM, joelefstein wrote:
>
>> I have had great luck with 8.1, as well as 8.6 on my 5300ce.  I'm now 
trying
>> to upgrade to 9.0 or 9.1, but first I plan on maxing my ram and perhaps
>> getting a bigger hard drive.  I've read that speeddoubler and ramdoubler
>> help alot also.
>
>Ramdoubler supposedly doesn't offer many (if any) advantages over VM in 8.1
>or above.  Lots of people swear by Speeddoubler, and it certainly zipped up
>the performance of my 5300c, but there were so many bizarre conflicts with
>applications (which kept bombing out on startup because of "error type 3"
>whatever that may be -- this includes SimpleText and even Battery
>Recondition) that I've given up using it.
>
>Best,
>Victoria





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