Re: Duo 2300c RAM
In a message dated 6/1/03 10:04:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -summary for your viewing pleasure- model baseram max ram Duos 210/230/250 -4 MB 24 MB Duo 270C -4 MB 32 MB Duo 280 + 280c - 4 MB 36 MB Duo 2300c - 8 MB 56 MB Okay gang... going back to this conversation a few days ago... I took a chance and bought some Mac parts from a computer scrapper, sight unseen. Let's see... some worthless floppies, a 7100/66 w/o any simms/dimms whatsoever, a 14 monitor... ...oh! And a Duo 2300c w/ no HD, an okay screen (light brown vertical band right down the middle of the display) and 56mb RAM. It looks like a double-decker module; a smaller board fits on the bigger (familiar to me) RAM board... I use a 280c, and have no intention of upgrading to the 2300c, BUT I would like to upgrade to the 2300c SCREEN and maybe the RAM.. ...but WHY CAN'T I USE the 48mb module in my Duo 280 to give it 52mb RAM?? Thanks, Craig W. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Duo 2300c RAM
In a message dated 6/1/03 10:04:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -summary for your viewing pleasure- model baseram max ram Duos 210/230/250 -4 MB 24 MB Duo 270C -4 MB 32 MB Duo 280 + 280c - 4 MB 36 MB Duo 2300c - 8 MB 56 MB Okay gang... going back to this conversation a few days ago... I took a chance and bought some Mac parts from a computer scrapper, sight unseen. Let's see... some worthless floppies, a 7100/66 w/o any simms/dimms whatsoever, a 14 monitor... ...oh! And a Duo 2300c w/ no HD, an okay screen (light brown vertical band right down the middle of the display) and 56mb RAM. It looks like a double-decker module; a smaller board fits on the bigger (familiar to me) RAM board... I use a 280c, and have no intention of upgrading to the 2300c, BUT I would like to upgrade to the 2300c SCREEN and maybe the RAM.. The 2300 screen will not work with a 280 motherboard. People have reported frying the cable upon attempts to do so (I wish I knew why anyone know why this happens?) ...but WHY CAN'T I USE the 48mb module in my Duo 280 to give it 52mb RAM?? You might be able to use the module but the motherboard is hardware limited to seeing a 36 MB module. On the other hand, it might just crash the machine. Thanks, Craig W. Mad Dog -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Duo 2300c RAM
On 4/6/03 8:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a 280c, and have no intention of upgrading to the 2300c, BUT I would like to upgrade to the 2300c SCREEN and maybe the RAM.. Can I be so bold as to ask why you don't want to use the 2300? I looked up some specs, and dimensions/weight wise it is identical to your 280... Perhaps instead of putting the 2300 ram and screen on the 280, maybe the 280 HD in the 2300?? Or just pick up a cheap 'lil HD from a computer fair or something? -- John -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Duo 2300c RAM
In a message dated 6/3/03 10:19:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I be so bold as to ask why you don't want to use the 2300? I looked up some specs, and dimensions/weight wise it is identical to your 280... Perhaps instead of putting the 2300 ram and screen on the 280, maybe the 280 HD in the 2300?? Well, simply put, I have been using the Duo 280c since 1995, in connection with my profession (paralegal to lawyer to sports agent). I have so many things on there that are 68k specific, I don't wanna go thru the hassle ... Plus I have heard that 40mb of RAM in 68k is more than 56mb RAM in PPC... Craig W. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Duo 2300c RAM
Up to you of course, but may I suggest you give the 2300 a try... 68k code has never had any problems running on a PPC in my experience, and anything coded 'FAT' (ie, both PPC and 68k) will be remarkably improved in speed I'd say... (probably even the 68k stuff will be better on a 100Mhz machine compared to 40Mhz) Don't know about the RAM thing though, sounds a little strange to me... -- John On 4/6/03 12:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/3/03 10:19:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I be so bold as to ask why you don't want to use the 2300? I looked up some specs, and dimensions/weight wise it is identical to your 280... Perhaps instead of putting the 2300 ram and screen on the 280, maybe the 280 HD in the 2300?? Well, simply put, I have been using the Duo 280c since 1995, in connection with my profession (paralegal to lawyer to sports agent). I have so many things on there that are 68k specific, I don't wanna go thru the hassle ... Plus I have heard that 40mb of RAM in 68k is more than 56mb RAM in PPC... Craig W. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Duo 2300c RAM
Thanks to everybody who replied. I guess I will take Dan K's advice hold out for a higher-numbered machine as my PPC laptop, say, an x400. I will wait a few months, hope to be astounded at how much my money will buy then! 8-) -- Over, Jutso http://pages.ripco.net/~jutso/ -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Duo 2300c RAM
Am I correct in assuming that the PowerBook Duo 2300c uses the same RAM cards as the previous Duos? I don't see anything in the Apple manuals developer notes that suggest different. Since those RAM chips are 32-bit wide (I presume), the 2300c has no L2 cache, on top of that, that would lead to pretty gruesome performance. (I am vaguely considering upgrading a 270c, but am afraid that I will merely have exchanged the best of the '030 PBs (as such things go) for a lousy PPC PBook (as such things go). -- Over, Jutso http://pages.ripco.net/~jutso/ -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Duo 2300c RAM
In a message dated 5/31/03 8:36:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am I correct in assuming that the PowerBook Duo 2300c uses the same RAM cards as the previous Duos? I don't see anything in the Apple manuals developer notes that suggest different. It is my understanding that the Duo 2300c used the same RAM cards as the previous Duos, AND the Duo 2300's had some RAM cards that (for some reason?) were not for the lesser Duos... namely the 40mb and 48mb RAM cards. But I ain't ne'er seen't them! Since those RAM chips are 32-bit wide (I presume), the 2300c has no L2 cache, on top of that, that would lead to pretty gruesome performance. (I am vaguely considering upgrading a 270c, but am afraid that I will merely have exchanged the best of the '030 PBs (as such things go) for a lousy PPC PBook (as such things go). I have often been told that the '040 33/66mhz Duo 280c I have was faster than the 2300c, and what clinched it for me (not upgrading) was the reminder that the PPC Duo could not run my bevy of 68k programs. If I were you, I would consider upgrading to a 280c, which should be as easy as swapping the motherboard... I believe the screens are the same. Craig W. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
