Re: Experience using memory module/adapter in PCMCIA slots

2004-04-07 Thread VidaVerde
re discussion of booting from flash cards:

Is there a limit to the number of writes a flash card can take? (I 
know with some sorts of cmos architecture this can be an issue)

If so, will using it for a boot or VM disk  wear it out?

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Re: Experience using memory module/adapter in PCMCIA slots

2004-04-07 Thread Jacob Hunter
There is a limit as you say, the general recommendation is not to run 
VM on  flash disks and only use them for software and booting. I would 
use a small and cheap card for VM with an older system as 8MB carads 
are peanuts now.
Jacob

VidaVerde wrote:

re discussion of booting from flash cards:

Is there a limit to the number of writes a flash card can take? 


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Re: Experience using memory module/adapter in PCMCIA slots

2004-04-07 Thread Howard R. Katz
There's a device for the Apple II computers that uses a CompactFlash for a
hard drive, and this issue was very much in discussion.  After all, what
good would be it be if it failed after just being used a minimum number of
times?  Based on SanDisk info, a CF can be written to 1,028,000,000 times
before it's totally unusable.  The information about this is at:

http://spudboy.dreher.net/CFforAppleII

Go down to the CFFA Forum link, go to CompactFlash for Apple II and the
General Discussion category.  From there you'll find the SanDisk Endurance
White Paper information.

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Experience using memory module/adapter in PCMCIA slots

2004-04-03 Thread Charles-brmemc
I just got involved with the older 190/5300/3400 PowerBooks and, in the 
process, learned that flash memory modules (the same kind used in 
cameras) add a new dimension to computer memory and operating convenience.

Preliminary--Useful details on how to use flash memory were found on 
LowEndMac's PowerBook site. The only significant information missing, at 
least to me, is that just about any flash memory module will fit into 
readily available PCMCIA memory card adapters. All memory modules I have 
tried work.

Versatility--I bought a pair of flash memory card adapters on eBay--one 
will accept SmartMedia, SecureDigital, MultiMedia Card, and Memory 
Stick; the other adapter will accept Microdrive and CompactFash. To this 
was added the cheapest/biggest memory modules I could find.

To use--Once the memory module is inserted in the adapter, the adapter 
is inserted in the PCMCIA slot on the left end of the PowerBook--be 
gentle inserting the adapter and be sure it is not at an angle--a firm 
push will be required just before it is firmly seated, leaving about 
10mm outside the case. When the icon shows on the screen, you can make 
the memory module Mac-friendly by erasing it. From that point on, it can 
be treated like any fast storage device and moved to ANother PB or a 
regular card reader attached to a desktop computer.

Storage expansion--Today I inserted two adapters, one below the other, 
for a total 380 MBs of additional fast memory. All installed 
applications and storage folders worked like a charm. So far, I have 
installed utilities, word processors, and data, without a single problem.

Evaluation--Thus far, I have found this to be a simple, effective, 
convenient, and inexpensive way to speed-up applications, store and move 
information to another Macintosh, desktop and portable. A friend and I 
use adapters to exchange large files and it has worked out well

My selection of memory modules range from 15MB to 220MB, from a variety 
of vendors (all from eBay).

LowEndMac indicates that it is possible to boot on some PBs from a 
memory module but, so far, I haven't been able to get any of my PBs to 
boot from a memory module.

Just one person's experience with memory modules and adapters.

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Re: Experience using memory module/adapter in PCMCIA slots

2004-04-03 Thread Andrew Kershaw
Preliminary--Useful details on how to use flash memory were found on 
LowEndMac's PowerBook site. The only significant information 
missing, at least to me, is that just about any flash memory module 
will fit into readily available PCMCIA memory card adapters. All 
memory modules I have tried work.
There's another whole level of cool factor here that most people 
have never discovered.  ANY device that can implement the ATA/IDE 
protocol can be used as a storage volume in the PC card slot with a 
suitable connector.  That includes virtually any flash memory module 
that has a PC card type adapter, most IDE hard drives, etc.  Even 
CD-ROM drives can be used (though the do require additional Mac OS 
drivers).  But it is pretty cool to hook up a hard drive to the PC 
card slots for portable external expansion.


LowEndMac indicates that it is possible to boot on some PBs from a 
memory module but, so far, I haven't been able to get any of my PBs 
to boot from a memory module.
That's because the LEM article is incomplete and composed from 
information mostly gleaned from this forum! ;-)

To boot from a flash module, you must write Mac OS Disk Drivers to 
the module using Drive Setup.  Most people just insert the module and 
use the Finder's Erase Disk menu option to initialize it as a Mac 
OS volume.  That will make it readable by Mac OS as an HFS(+) volume, 
but it won't make it bootable.  Booting requires the disk drivers, 
and only Drive Setup can write those.

FWIW, I use a 256MB CF card in my 5300/digital picture frame as the 
boot volume.  I've removed the hard drive, so there are no longer any 
moving parts.  The picture frame is COMPLETELY SILENT!  I've also got 
a 333MB PCMCIA ATA flash card that works wonders (but is currently 
used as a ridiculously large storage module for my Newton MessagePad 
130 - All the books you could ever want!).

I believe all PowerBooks with PC card slots can be booted from a PC 
card storage device.  That is, all PowerBooks up to the Lombard, 
Pismo, and G4.  Apple changed the design of newer PowerBooks, and 
booting no longer works from PC cards, IIRC.  Can the 500 series be 
booted from PC cards?  Anyone know?

Peace,
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Re: Experience using memory module/adapter in PCMCIA slots

2004-04-03 Thread Louis Labrie

  Can the 500 series be booted from PC cards?  Anyone know?

Yes they can but you have to make sure you have the software
for the PCMCIA card cage installed in the system on the flash memory.
Or something like that its been a while since i've done it. I do have 
the
original disk that came with my rev b card cage and in the read me it
tells  how to do it. But anyway yes it can be done on the 500 series.

Louis

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