Re: I'm CHRONOLOGICALLY an adult, BUT.... (was Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Yersinia]

Doc Holliday wrote,



And Bruce Johnson replied,



Startup sound clips never really attracted my attentionbut I did used 
to have a little startup "movie" which consisted of bright pink motile E. 
coli, with one swimming right at me hee hee hee.

Twisted and bizarre as well all too easily amused,

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Though smaller than the pachyderm.
His customary dwelling place
Is deep within the human race.
His childish pride he often pleases
By giving people strange diseases.
Do you, my poppet, feel infirm?
You probably contain a germ."
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Re: I'm CHRONOLOGICALLY an adult, BUT.... (was Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 4, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Doc Holliday wrote:

What I personally liked was being able to get my Mac to play the  
"The Good Morning Vietnam!!!" clip from the movie.




That was my startup sound for a while. I also had the Warner Brothers  
Merry Melody theme as my startup, too.


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Re: I'm CHRONOLOGICALLY an adult, BUT.... (was Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 4, 2005, at 3:45 PM, Yersinia wrote:


...I have a seriously infantile sense of humor about certain things at
times. To wit,

It's called TheGrouch.sit on that page.>

ROFLMAO! I can't help but ask if this is (a) something that's actually
going to damage my Macs (G3/266, OS 9.2.2 and 5300c Powerbook OS 8.6),
and (b) if it's safe, can I put this on my Macs and will Oscar do his
thing when I empty my Trash? See, I'd like to try it, but I don't  
want to

mess up my Macs.


In 8.6 I think it works, but I think it's broken in 9. No damage will  
be done, that takes a three year old. There's a standalone version in  
the download that does work in 9.2.



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Re: I'm CHRONOLOGICALLY an adult, BUT.... (was Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Yersinia]

Ian writes,



Hahahahahaha! No, I don't mind at all. On this note, I went to the URL 
originally posted by Bruce Johnson to go pick it up last night. It's 
hysterical, but unfortunately, it doesn't work! The standalone app 
version allows me to see and hear all, but when I put the extension in my 
Extensions Folder, restarted the Mac for it to take effect, and then 
created a whole bunch of empty folders on the desktop to try it out with 
(hee hee hee, giggle giggle), Oscar did NOT pop his head out of the trash 
and sing when I threw the empty folders out and emptied my Trash.. 

This was exactly the same thing that had happened when I tried MacBarf, 
too, sigh.

I know all about stated system requirements that say "Must have System 
[whatever] or HIGHER" for certain apps and so forth to run, but do we now 
have a case of "Must Have System [whatever] or LOWER"? I'm not running OS 
X here, I'm still totally on Mac Classic (8.6 on the Powerbook, 9.2.2 on 
the G3).

Wondering how it would look if a grown woman would throw a tantrum like a 
2-year-old for whom it's normal to find things like MacBarf or The Grouch 
entertaining,

~Yersinia.  ;-)

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Re: I'm CHRONOLOGICALLY an adult, BUT.... (was Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Ian Nixon]

Just chiming in on this...hope you don't mind...

My teacher gave me a Mac II a couple years back, and it had 7.1 on it 
along with Pyro, and the (now infamous on this list) the Grouch init.  
But when I had first gotten the machine, I did not know it was there.  
So, with the speaker all the way up (Who knows why she had it all the 
way up), I dragged something there.  When I did, I was completely 
STARTLED and scared, because I didn't know where it had come from.  So 
then I took about 5 minutes and searched the Apps folder - nothing.  
System Folder - nothing.  Extensions - I saw a little icon with a trash 
can, and I got suspicious.  I then made a blank folder and dragged it 
to the trash, and lo and behold, the Grouch popped up and started 
singing.


Just thought you might need to know that :-P haha

Ian

On Jul 4, 2005, at 6:45 PM, Yersinia wrote:


...I have a seriously infantile sense of humor about certain things at
times. To wit,

Bruce Johnson writes,

http://asgard.actrix.co.nz/
macintosh/inits/>

It's called TheGrouch.sit on that page.>

ROFLMAO! I can't help but ask if this is (a) something that's actually
going to damage my Macs (G3/266, OS 9.2.2 and 5300c Powerbook OS 8.6),
and (b) if it's safe, can I put this on my Macs and will Oscar do his
thing when I empty my Trash? See, I'd like to try it, but I don't want 
to

mess up my Macs.

On this note, does anyone remember an extension called MacBarf?
Supposedly if you had it installed and enabled, it would cause your Mac
to make vomiting noises whenever you ejected a floppy. I had downloaded
it from somewhere and enabled it (this was back on my 7200/120 with OS
8.1 as my only computer era) but it never worked. Does anyone know why,
and if I could find this for OS 8.6 to 9.2.2?

But I don't WANNA grow up!,

~Yersinia.



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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Donna Hood Pointer]

I used to have that one. It was really cute. Oscar the Grouch popped up 
when the Trash either emptied or had something in it--I don't remember 
which. I never had any trouble with it at all. It always made me smile 
when working on something intense. It's been a long time since I 
thought of that one.


On Jul 4, 2005, at 3:32 PM, PowerBooks wrote:

deleting (complete with progress bar...)


Or the infamous 'Oscar the Grouch' trashcan mod. I know one person
who lost almost everything on his hard drive, thanks to that init and
a determined three year old.


I hate to ask what that one did ... but I'll ask anyway. *cringes*



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Re: I'm CHRONOLOGICALLY an adult, BUT.... (was Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Cameron Kaiser]

> Whenever you emptied the trash, Oscar would come out of the trash can  
> and sing a fragment of his 'I love Trash' song. Each time you emptied  
> the trash he sang another verse, so the only way to get him to sing  
> the whole thing was to repeatedly put things in the trash and empty it.
> 
> Hmm...no way THAT could go wrong!

Lol. Looks like

> Here's a link to a copy I found:  macintosh/inits/>

does have a standalone version, though -- the Index sez

Grouch.sit [The Grouch INIT 2.5B1]
  Here's the latest System 7 compatible version of 
  The Grouch.  Empty the trash and see Oscar.  
  Includes a stand-alone application so that kids 
  don't delete all of your files

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Re: I'm CHRONOLOGICALLY an adult, BUT.... (was Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Doc Holliday]

I remember MacBarf... I left it in my computer about ten minutes before 
I trashed it. Funny once or twice, but after that, embarrassing.


What I personally liked was being able to get my Mac to play the "The 
Good Morning Vietnam!!!" clip from the movie.


I was watching Independence Day on TV last night. Was that a 5300c? That 
saved the world?


Doc...

Yersinia wrote:

...I have a seriously infantile sense of humor about certain things at 
times. To wit,


Bruce Johnson writes,

and sing a fragment of his 'I love Trash' song. Each time you emptied  
the trash he sang another verse, so the only way to get him to sing  
the whole thing was to repeatedly put things in the trash and empty it.


Hmm...no way THAT could go wrong!

It was by an Eric Shapiro, and was shown at MacHack '89 and may well  
exist out on the net somewhere...He eventually wrote a standalone  
version to protect people with preschoolers.


Here's a link to a copy I found: 


It's called TheGrouch.sit on that page.>

ROFLMAO! I can't help but ask if this is (a) something that's actually 
going to damage my Macs (G3/266, OS 9.2.2 and 5300c Powerbook OS 8.6), 
and (b) if it's safe, can I put this on my Macs and will Oscar do his 
thing when I empty my Trash? See, I'd like to try it, but I don't want to 
mess up my Macs.


On this note, does anyone remember an extension called MacBarf? 
Supposedly if you had it installed and enabled, it would cause your Mac 
to make vomiting noises whenever you ejected a floppy. I had downloaded 
it from somewhere and enabled it (this was back on my 7200/120 with OS 
8.1 as my only computer era) but it never worked. Does anyone know why, 
and if I could find this for OS 8.6 to 9.2.2?


But I don't WANNA grow up!,

~Yersinia.



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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Doc Holliday]

Didn't that one come along with a bunch of other such inits in a book 
called "Stupid Mac Tricks"? I was system admin on a large Mac Plus 
network and one person bought the book and installed the init that 
disabled certain keys on the keyboard. She installed that on just about 
every computer on the network. Drove me nuts until I figured it out and 
we had 25 staring at their computers for a day and a half until I could 
remove it all. She probably would have been fired, if she wasn't the 
boss's daughter...


I think I heard this keyboard blocking init was later spread via a 
virus. I never saw it.


Doc...

Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Jul 4, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:


As I recall, there wee a bunch of "novelty" inits one dropped in
the extensions folder that did amusing things; unable to control
mouse, started scanning like an old B&W TV (complete with snow),
beeping, burping, brought up custom screens telling you your HD was
deleting (complete with progress bar...)



Or the infamous 'Oscar the Grouch' trashcan mod. I know one person
who lost almost everything on his hard drive, thanks to that init and
a determined three year old.



I hate to ask what that one did ... but I'll ask anyway. *cringes*



Whenever you emptied the trash, Oscar would come out of the trash can  
and sing a fragment of his 'I love Trash' song. Each time you emptied  
the trash he sang another verse, so the only way to get him to sing  
the whole thing was to repeatedly put things in the trash and empty it.


Hmm...no way THAT could go wrong!

It was by an Eric Shapiro, and was shown at MacHack '89 and may well  
exist out on the net somewhere...He eventually wrote a standalone  
version to protect people with preschoolers.


Here's a link to a copy I found: 


It's called TheGrouch.sit on that page.

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I'm CHRONOLOGICALLY an adult, BUT.... (was Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Yersinia]

...I have a seriously infantile sense of humor about certain things at 
times. To wit,

Bruce Johnson writes,

http://asgard.actrix.co.nz/ 
macintosh/inits/>

It's called TheGrouch.sit on that page.>

ROFLMAO! I can't help but ask if this is (a) something that's actually 
going to damage my Macs (G3/266, OS 9.2.2 and 5300c Powerbook OS 8.6), 
and (b) if it's safe, can I put this on my Macs and will Oscar do his 
thing when I empty my Trash? See, I'd like to try it, but I don't want to 
mess up my Macs.

On this note, does anyone remember an extension called MacBarf? 
Supposedly if you had it installed and enabled, it would cause your Mac 
to make vomiting noises whenever you ejected a floppy. I had downloaded 
it from somewhere and enabled it (this was back on my 7200/120 with OS 
8.1 as my only computer era) but it never worked. Does anyone know why, 
and if I could find this for OS 8.6 to 9.2.2?

But I don't WANNA grow up!,

~Yersinia.



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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 4, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:


As I recall, there wee a bunch of "novelty" inits one dropped in
the extensions folder that did amusing things; unable to control
mouse, started scanning like an old B&W TV (complete with snow),
beeping, burping, brought up custom screens telling you your HD was
deleting (complete with progress bar...)



Or the infamous 'Oscar the Grouch' trashcan mod. I know one person
who lost almost everything on his hard drive, thanks to that init and
a determined three year old.



I hate to ask what that one did ... but I'll ask anyway. *cringes*


Whenever you emptied the trash, Oscar would come out of the trash can  
and sing a fragment of his 'I love Trash' song. Each time you emptied  
the trash he sang another verse, so the only way to get him to sing  
the whole thing was to repeatedly put things in the trash and empty it.


Hmm...no way THAT could go wrong!

It was by an Eric Shapiro, and was shown at MacHack '89 and may well  
exist out on the net somewhere...He eventually wrote a standalone  
version to protect people with preschoolers.


Here's a link to a copy I found: 


It's called TheGrouch.sit on that page.

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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Cameron Kaiser]

> > As I recall, there wee a bunch of "novelty" inits one dropped in  
> > the extensions folder that did amusing things; unable to control  
> > mouse, started scanning like an old B&W TV (complete with snow),  
> > beeping, burping, brought up custom screens telling you your HD was  
> > deleting (complete with progress bar...)
> 
> Or the infamous 'Oscar the Grouch' trashcan mod. I know one person  
> who lost almost everything on his hard drive, thanks to that init and  
> a determined three year old.

I hate to ask what that one did ... but I'll ask anyway. *cringes*

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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 3, 2005, at 4:32 PM, Geoffrey Davis wrote:

the closest thing I ever had to a virus was putting on the thing  
that makes the computer get happy when you plug in the power cord,  
i did it to my wife's powerbook once...




As I recall, there wee a bunch of "novelty" inits one dropped in  
the extensions folder that did amusing things; unable to control  
mouse, started scanning like an old B&W TV (complete with snow),  
beeping, burping, brought up custom screens telling you your HD was  
deleting (complete with progress bar...)


Or the infamous 'Oscar the Grouch' trashcan mod. I know one person  
who lost almost everything on his hard drive, thanks to that init and  
a determined three year old.


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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Fluxstringer]

There were some worms that came out about the time Apple started the 
Snail/Intel commercials. They just slowed the Macs down using the 
auto-start feature of Quicktime and were pretty easy to disable and 
remove. It hit about a dozen of my client's machines and started 
after unsolicited restarts.





Did it ever effect OS 9 or later ?

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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Terry Holtrey]

There were some worms that came out about the time Apple started the 
Snail/Intel commercials. They just slowed the Macs down using the 
auto-start feature of Quicktime and were pretty easy to disable and 
remove. It hit about a dozen of my client's machines and started after 
unsolicited restarts.



On Jul 3, 2005, at 7:32 PM, Geoffrey Davis wrote:

the closest thing I ever had to a virus was putting on the thing that 
makes the computer get happy when you plug in the power cord, i did 
it to my wife's powerbook once...


As I recall, there wee a bunch of "novelty" inits one dropped in the 
extensions folder that did amusing things; unable to control mouse, 
started scanning like an old B&W TV (complete with snow), beeping, 
burping, brought up custom screens telling you your HD was deleting 
(complete with progress bar...)
The only real "virus" that's ever cropped up in my time working with 
Macs has been through Microsoft Word documents. Some bright spark 
decided to infect the macros. Most annoying, but, like the other stuff 
easily fixed.


gwd
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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Fluxstringer]

With regard to my  thread last week  "OS 9 Security  ? ", which this 
thread seems to be a response to, out of posts to this list and the 
PCI list
representing 1200 users NOT A SINGLE CASE OF OS 9 virus, Trojan Horse 
or Worm was reported.


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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Geoffrey Davis]

the closest thing I ever had to a virus was putting on the thing 
that makes the computer get happy when you plug in the power cord, i 
did it to my wife's powerbook once...


As I recall, there wee a bunch of "novelty" inits one dropped in the 
extensions folder that did amusing things; unable to control mouse, 
started scanning like an old B&W TV (complete with snow), beeping, 
burping, brought up custom screens telling you your HD was deleting 
(complete with progress bar...)
The only real "virus" that's ever cropped up in my time working with 
Macs has been through Microsoft Word documents. Some bright spark 
decided to infect the macros. Most annoying, but, like the other 
stuff easily fixed.


gwd
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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Fluxstringer]

on 7/2/05 5:44 PM, The Real Seed Catalogue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Yep, I've done mac support since 1989, starting at  college.   We
 were badly hit by viruses from time to time under late OS 6 (& I
 think early 7), as you can imagine - loads of students all runnign
 their OS off floppies that they swapped more often than bedmates. . .
 weekly scans with disinfectant fixed it.

 Since then, I've been hit twice more.  Once was only a couple of
 years ago, I think on 8.5 (or was it still 7.5.5? - which was pretty
 good really) . This was an evil ***er that lurked in your system and
 only trashed the HD if you booted at a certain time of a certain day
 of a certain month.

 Since then I've seen nothing.(Now on 9.1) I have a copy of Virex
 antivirus program  (not norton, thank god) but not actually active
 and only ever run it about twice a year when I'm feeling paranoid!


They only virus I've ever seen on any of my macs is the Beeping virus.
That's hardly malicious, just annoying, and very easy to get rid of.



__

on OS 9.1 ?

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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Fluxstringer]

Yep, I've done mac support since 1989, starting at  college.   We 
were badly hit by viruses from time to time under late OS 6 (& I 
think early 7), as you can imagine - loads of students all runnign 
their OS off floppies that they swapped more often than bedmates. . 
. weekly scans with disinfectant fixed it.


Since then, I've been hit twice more.  Once was only a couple of 
years ago, I think on 8.5 (or was it still 7.5.5? - which was pretty 
good really) . This was an evil ***er that lurked in your system and 
only trashed the HD if you booted at a certain time of a certain day 
of a certain month.


Since then I've seen nothing.(Now on 9.1) I have a copy of Virex 
antivirus program  (not norton, thank god) but not actually active 
and only ever run it about twice a year when I'm feeling paranoid!





Ben, were you on vacation last week?
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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Jason]

the closest thing I ever had to a virus was putting on the thing that  
makes the computer get happy when you plug in the power cord, i did  
it to my wife's powerbook once...




They only virus I've ever seen on any of my macs is the Beeping virus.
That's hardly malicious, just annoying, and very easy to get rid of.



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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Dan Palka]

on 7/2/05 5:44 PM, The Real Seed Catalogue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Yep, I've done mac support since 1989, starting at  college.   We
> were badly hit by viruses from time to time under late OS 6 (& I
> think early 7), as you can imagine - loads of students all runnign
> their OS off floppies that they swapped more often than bedmates. . .
> weekly scans with disinfectant fixed it.
> 
> Since then, I've been hit twice more.  Once was only a couple of
> years ago, I think on 8.5 (or was it still 7.5.5? - which was pretty
> good really) . This was an evil ***er that lurked in your system and
> only trashed the HD if you booted at a certain time of a certain day
> of a certain month.
> 
> Since then I've seen nothing.(Now on 9.1) I have a copy of Virex
> antivirus program  (not norton, thank god) but not actually active
> and only ever run it about twice a year when I'm feeling paranoid!

They only virus I've ever seen on any of my macs is the Beeping virus.
That's hardly malicious, just annoying, and very easy to get rid of.


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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[Brian McEwen]

On Jul 2, 2005, at 6:44 PM, The Real Seed Catalogue wrote:


Since then, I've been hit twice more.  Once was only a couple of  
years ago, I think on 8.5 (or was it still 7.5.5? - which was  
pretty good really) . This was an evil ***er that lurked in your  
system and only trashed the HD if you booted at a certain time of a  
certain day of a certain month.




50% chance it will take 12 min to be compromised, with a regular  
Windows box.  8000 new viruses in 2005 alone.


Preaching to the choir, I know..

B



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I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

[The Real Seed Catalogue]

Yep, I've done mac support since 1989, starting at  college.   We 
were badly hit by viruses from time to time under late OS 6 (& I 
think early 7), as you can imagine - loads of students all runnign 
their OS off floppies that they swapped more often than bedmates. . . 
weekly scans with disinfectant fixed it.


Since then, I've been hit twice more.  Once was only a couple of 
years ago, I think on 8.5 (or was it still 7.5.5? - which was pretty 
good really) . This was an evil ***er that lurked in your system and 
only trashed the HD if you booted at a certain time of a certain day 
of a certain month.


Since then I've seen nothing.(Now on 9.1) I have a copy of Virex 
antivirus program  (not norton, thank god) but not actually active 
and only ever run it about twice a year when I'm feeling paranoid!


Ben

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