Re: Limping Lombard
BTW, I'm curious why Lombards would be considered OT for this list. It's a PowerBook. From Low End Mac's PowerBooks email list page: PowerBooks is a forum for users of the original Mac Portable and all pre-G3 PowerBooks (including pre-G3 models with G3 upgrades). For owners of iBooks, G3 PowerBooks, and the PowerBook G4, we recommend the G-Books list. The one-off rule would apply to the PowerBook G3 (Kanga or 3500), marginally to the Wallstreet, and certainly not to the Lombard, Pismo, or any G4. G-Books is specifically for these other 'books. Peace, Drew -- http://homepage.mac.com/alk/ There are of course many problems connected with life, of which some of the most popular are `Why are people born?' `Why do they die?' `Why do they spend so much of the intervening time wearing digital watches?' -- Douglas Adams' The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Limping Lombard
on 12/2/02 12:31 PM, (PowerBooks) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, the biggest speed enhancement you'll get is by upgrading the RAM. 64MB is _BARELY_ enough to run OS 9. 9.2.2 on my Wallstreet takes 60-70MB. And PC133 SODIMMs are dirt cheap (they work all the way back to the Wallstreet, btw). Unless you _really_ can't afford it, there's no reason why you shouldn't get more RAM. -- I concur. I think trying to run OS 9.2.2 with 64 mb RAM is akin to towing a full-sized mobile home with an VW bug. You can do it, but only in first gear, very slow. I'm betting the thing is depending VR. Is your HD busy all the time? Get more RAM any ol' way. BTW, I'm curious why Lombards would be considered OT for this list. It's a PowerBook. Best regards, Ken N. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Limping Lombard
I bought a Lombard from one of the LEM Swap listers, and although it works, it is painfully slow. It has 64 MG RAM, running 9.2.2. I decided to run TechTool Pro on it and booted from my TechTool CD, which took forever. When it finally booted, TechTool could not see the internal hard drive. I restarted, and ran TechTool and the System Files check failed, with the result that 'a problem was found with the Enabler file on the volume When I look in the Apple System Profiler it says there is no active enabler. I tried booting from my 9.1 CD; same result. The only drive shown is the CD. I ran Disk First Aid and it says the volume appears to be OK. Any suggestions? -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
OT! Re: Limping Lombard
This belongs on the G-Books list. This isn't even one off... You'll get better responses from them anyway, considering they actually own and talk about Lombards over there. Not everyone on this list has a G3/G4 based PowerBook... Your book shouldn't need a system enabler, especially under 9.2.2. Is virtual memory on? Probably is if you've only got 64MB RAM! Buy more RAM, it's dirt cheap, and turn off VM! Although the debate over VM is beyond the scope of this message, IMHO VM defeats the point of having a battery powered computer - if you're going to thrash about on your disk every second the computer is on, your battery will deplete far to quickly, defeating the mobility of your PowerBook. Might as well tote an iMac around with you. Do the usual voodoo dance (zap the PRAM, reset the power manager, empty the prefs folder of what you don't need, etc) and see if that helps. Try a clean install of the OS. Systems with an OS installed by the previous owner sometimes don't behave correctly... Sometimes (not in all cases, of course!) the previous owner just didn't know what the heck (s)he was doing with the computer. Finally, check to make sure the RAM and CPU are properly seated. Definitely make sure the hard disk is seated correctly. Sometimes a slight misalignment will allow your computer to run, but not behave correctly. Seriously, the biggest speed enhancement you'll get is by upgrading the RAM. 64MB is _BARELY_ enough to run OS 9. 9.2.2 on my Wallstreet takes 60-70MB. And PC133 SODIMMs are dirt cheap (they work all the way back to the Wallstreet, btw). Unless you _really_ can't afford it, there's no reason why you shouldn't get more RAM. peace, Drew -- http://homepage.mac.com/alk/ There are of course many problems connected with life, of which some of the most popular are `Why are people born?' `Why do they die?' `Why do they spend so much of the intervening time wearing digital watches?' -- Douglas Adams' The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT! Re: Limping Lombard
This belongs on the G-Books list. This isn't even one off... You'll get better responses from them anyway, considering they actually own and talk about Lombards over there. Not everyone on this list has a G3/G4 based PowerBook... Sorry for the off topic post. I didn't mean to annoy this list. In fact, I didn't even know there was a G-Book list. Guess I will join it. Your book shouldn't need a system enabler, especially under 9.2.2. Is virtual memory on? Probably is if you've only got 64MB RAM! Buy more RAM, it's dirt cheap, and turn off VM! I turned VM off. Do the usual voodoo dance (zap the PRAM, reset the power manager, empty the prefs folder of what you don't need, etc) and see if that helps. Did all that.. Try a clean install of the OS. I wanted to do a clean install, but when I boot from the OS CD, the internal HD is not visible, so it is not possible for me to install anything. Finally, check to make sure the RAM and CPU are properly seated. Definitely make sure the hard disk is seated correctly. Sometimes a slight misalignment will allow your computer to run, but not behave correctly. I will try this. Seriously, the biggest speed enhancement you'll get is by upgrading the RAM. Am awaiting arrival of RAM ordered. Thanks for your input. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT! Re: Limping Lombard
I wanted to do a clean install, but when I boot from the OS CD, the internal HD is not visible, so it is not possible for me to install anything. It is possible (probable?) that the drive is formatted with HFS+ and you booted with a TechTools CD that is too old to be able to read an HFS+ partition?? If you run a HFS-only tool on an HFS+ partition I believe you can really mangle things. It might just be easier to format and start over if so. If you boot from the internal HD (I don't see that you said the drive is now non-booting), and put the 9.1 CD in, does the CD show up? There's often no need to boot from the OS CD to do a clean system install, just tell it clean install and you get a new system folder. The 9.1 CD should have handled the HFS+ though. TechTool, maybe or maybe not, depends on how old it is. Brian -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT! Re: Limping Lombard
My Reply follows quote. On 01/12/2002 15:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Kershaw) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This belongs on the G-Books list. This isn't even one off... You'll get better responses from them anyway, considering they actually own and talk about Lombards over there. Not everyone on this list has a G3/G4 based PowerBook... -- I must be dense today. Where does one find/subscribe to the G-Books list? Ken Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT! Re: Limping Lombard
I must be dense today. Where does one find/subscribe to the G-Books list? Ken mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] will get you on the list. This is, of course, another of the fabulous LEM lists. All of Dan's lists can be found here: http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/index.shtml Read about G-Books here: http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html G-Books is a forum for users of G3- and G4-based PowerBooks and iBooks. Those with pre-G3 PowerBooks should look to the PowerBooks list for advice. It was created on March 1, 2001 and has about 525 users. You can read the _recent_ posts here: http://mail.maclaunch.com/lists/g-books/ Peace, Drew -- http://homepage.mac.com/alk/ There are of course many problems connected with life, of which some of the most popular are `Why are people born?' `Why do they die?' `Why do they spend so much of the intervening time wearing digital watches?' -- Douglas Adams' The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Limping Lombard
on 12/1/02 1:39 PM, J. Shea at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a Lombard from one of the LEM Swap listers, and although it works, it is painfully slow. It has 64 MG RAM, running 9.2.2. I decided to run TechTool Pro on it and booted from my TechTool CD, which took forever. When it finally booted, TechTool could not see the internal hard drive. I restarted, and ran TechTool and the System Files check failed, with the result that 'a problem was found with the Enabler file on the volume When I look in the Apple System Profiler it says there is no active enabler. I tried booting from my 9.1 CD; same result. The only drive shown is the CD. I ran Disk First Aid and it says the volume appears to be OK. Any suggestions? 0 out, reformat and reinstall -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
