Re: Moving to Google Groups
Nannie Beverly, et All those in the know... Hi! On Feb 14, 2006, at 05:33 AM, PowerBooks wrote: Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:34:07 -0500 From: Beverly Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving to Google Groups In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip If anyone would like to subscribe to the Google version of this list without signing up for a Google Account, or just so you can keep getting your list email with the address you are using now, you can join the group by sending an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could you Please inform to those of Us on PowerBook's Digest List form just how to torque the above kindly supplied work'round so that it would work likewise for Us?, (like perhaps; [EMAIL PROTECTED] or powerbooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]) neither tested)) just maybe?? Do Please advise. TIA Respectful of GURUs Bill Cornett cornettATgolDOTcom / -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Moving to Google Groups
Dan, Do we need to re-signup for this list or will we be transitioned over? Dan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: To sign up for the new list, go to http://groups.google.com/group/powerbooks There are some things about Google Groups that are a bit different, so be sure to read the updated list FAQ, which explains the subscription confirmation system and some other features, such as online subscription management. Dan Knight, listmom -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Moving to Google Groups
Given the recent row between Google and the Justice Department and all the news about how search engines track our activities online, it is really wise to use Google (or Yahoo! or MSN or...) Groups for this? I noticed as I was signing up that Creating a Google Account activates Personalized Search, which finds the search results most relevant to you based on your search history and more. That's pretty disturbing to me. I know I can turn it off, but somehow I doubt that checkbox actually disables this feature of Google. Google can track me by IP, and I can't do anything about that. But voluntarily giving Google more info (like my email address, my proclivity for talking about Macs, etc) sounds like a bad idea. Right now, somebody has to go figure that out by adding up information from various websites. Using Google puts it all right there in Google's database. Is anybody else concerned about this, or am I just paranoid? - Drew -- Author of ClassicStumbler email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.alksoft.com/ Visit the PowerBook 5300 FAQ! http://www.alksoft.com/5300_FAQ/ -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Moving to Google Groups
Is anybody else concerned about this, or am I just paranoid? Myself, I don't care for Google Groups anyway. I'm not planning to subscribe to the new list. -- - personal: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ --- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail. -- Gore Vidal --- -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Moving to Google Groups
Drew writes, Is anybody else concerned about this, or am I just paranoid? You're not paranoid -- you're absolutely right, and I totally share your concerns. ~Yersinia. paranoia, n.: A healthy understanding of the way the universe works. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Moving to Google Groups
On Feb 12, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Andrew Kershaw wrote: Google can track me by IP, and I can't do anything about that. But voluntarily giving Google more info (like my email address, my proclivity for talking about Macs, etc) sounds like a bad idea. Right now, somebody has to go figure that out by adding up information from various websites. Using Google puts it all right there in Google's database. Is anybody else concerned about this, or am I just paranoid? - Oh, you aren't the only one concerned, but there isn't going to be much occurring that isn't _already_. The web archives of this list are open, and google is already indexing these lists. Same with some of the netbsd ones I'm on- I googled for ideas about a problem I was having, top on the list of hits, the post I'd made the previous day s to port-cobalt. Look, it took me 5 seconds to take a snip from your last email to this list (of Feb 4) and find you via google: (the h t t p part whacked to try and defeat list filters): www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=%22IOxperts+wrote+a+Prism+chipset +driver...%22btnG=Search What have you been *doing* for almost 2 weeks without a post here, Drew? Meeting with your radical Mac underground group? :) We will have to watch you more closely. Seriously, this search engine creep isn't a great thing, especially with the google toolbar sucking all you *documents* to their server for harvesting- unbelieveable! But moving the lists to google, while I don't like it either (will the darn footers get shorter as the big guy will get ad revenue now??? I hope so) won't obviously be that much different than what gets archived now. I guess you could count google's access to full email addresses as a change, since currently those are munged in the archive. The munging is a comparatively new thing though, IIRC they used to be put back intact. So all of our full email addresses persist in google forever from those days. Brian -- Typical traditional philosophical question: If a tree falls in the woods but no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? Bill Clinton's philosophical question: It depends on what the meaning of 'is', is. Bush administration's philosophical ponderings: If the person you are torturing is held in another country, is it still torture?? -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Moving to Google Groups
how well will google's fancy features work on our old powebooks? wayne -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Moving to Google Groups
On Feb 12, 2006, at 3:10 PM, nhj wrote: how well will google's fancy features work on our old powebooks? Once you sign up you can have it send e-mail to you, so it's just like it is now, the e-mails are coming from a different source, that's all. You don't have to use the web interface at all. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig that says 'NI!' -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Moving to Google Groups
Drew wrote: I noticed as I was signing up that Creating a Google Account activates Personalized Search, which finds the search results most relevant to you based on your search history and more. That's pretty disturbing to me. I know I can turn it off, but somehow I doubt that checkbox actually disables this feature of Google. Maybe not, but there is a Firefox extension called CustomizeGoogle that has a number of options to protect your privacy; you might want to check into that. Google can track me by IP, and I can't do anything about that. Actually according to what I've been reading, you can; see above, and other Firefox extensions for anonymizing your internet use. But voluntarily giving Google more info (like my email address, my proclivity for talking about Macs, etc) sounds like a bad idea. Right now, somebody has to go figure that out by adding up information from various websites. Using Google puts it all right there in Google's database. Is anybody else concerned about this, or am I just paranoid? I'm not that thrilled about the issues this raises either. But I can understand why Dan is moving the lists, since the Maclaunch service has drawbacks of other kinds. If anyone would like to subscribe to the Google version of this list without signing up for a Google Account, or just so you can keep getting your list email with the address you are using now, you can join the group by sending an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will allow you to subscribe outside of a Google account. Beverly (Powerbooks listnanny) -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Moving to Google Groups
If anyone would like to subscribe to the Google version of this list without signing up for a Google Account, or just so you can keep getting your list email with the address you are using now, you can join the group by sending an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will allow you to subscribe outside of a Google account. That's great. Thanks, Beverly! The group site http://groups.google.com/group/powerbooks doesn't say a thing about being able to do this, and I didn't seen anything on the LEM site about the PowerBooks list, either. Why is it that Dan wants to move to Google Groups? Other than the ease of use for him (and making things more complicated for us), is there a reason? I can remember when he was running these lists off a Mac in his basement, and I understood the costs and expenses associated with that. I don't understand the need to move to Google Groups. Has he posted why he's moving all the lists go GG? - Drew -- Author of ClassicStumbler email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.alksoft.com/ Visit the PowerBook 5300 FAQ! http://www.alksoft.com/5300_FAQ/ -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Moving to Google Groups
Members of the 1st PowerMacs list, We're slowly moving the Low End Mac email lists from Maclaunch to Google Groups, which we see as a real improvment. Google Groups functions as an email list, so if you want to keep doing things like you have in the past, that's fine. It also adds a searchable online archive plus the ability to read and reply to posts using your browser. To sign up for the new list, go to http://groups.google.com/group/powerbooks There are some things about Google Groups that are a bit different, so be sure to read the updated list FAQ, which explains the subscription confirmation system and some other features, such as online subscription management. Dan Knight, listmom -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Moving to Google Groups
At 8:53 AM -0500 2/11/06, Dan Knight wrote: Members of the 1st PowerMacs list, We're slowly moving the Low End Mac email lists from Maclaunch to Google Groups, which we see as a real improvment. Google Groups functions as an email list, so if you want to keep doing things like you have in the past, that's fine. It also adds a searchable online archive plus the ability to read and reply to posts using your browser. To sign up for the new list, go to http://groups.google.com/group/powerbooks There are some things about Google Groups that are a bit different, so be sure to read the updated list FAQ, which explains the subscription confirmation system and some other features, such as online subscription management. Is there a way to search for Low End Mac lists? When I try it in the group search I get a few LEM lists and some newsgroups. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
