Re: remove specific attachments from messages automatically?

2003-03-13 Thread Andy Fragen

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You're welcome.

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003, Jonathan Greene said:

very cool - will give this a whirl...

Thanks,
JG


on Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:51:33 -0800 / Andy Fragen said: 

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003, Jonathan Greene said:

I have an account that does not support html messages due to my company's
gateway.  I'd like to automatically remove the attach*.html bits that
come in so I don't have to do it manually and don't clutter up my
attachments folder.  When I went to create a rule for this, the only
option seemed to be to remove all attachments, which is not what I want
to do, since I often receive Office docs there.  Any thoughts?

There is a script, Delete vCard Attachments that comes with PowerMail.
You could easily duplicate that script, change it, and run it from a
filter to act always on incoming messages.

***
tell application PowerMail
  set theMessages to current messages
  repeat with msg in theMessages
  repeat with attach in every attachment of msg
  if name of attach ends with (.html or .htm) then
  tell application Finder
  set f to file of attach
  move f to trash
  end tell
  end if
  end repeat
  end repeat
end tell
**

The above should work.
-- 
Andy Fragen

-- 
Andy Fragen




Re(2): Complex Filter in PowerMail

2003-03-13 Thread Jonathan Greene

had no idea you could do that... very cool way to link them

-- 
As long as people will accept crap, it will be financially profitable to
dispense it. 
-- Dick Cavett

on Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:10:45 -0600 / Marlyse Comte said: 

have the first on top of the second filter and in the lower filter enable
'stop applying filters'. 

filters work in the list from the top down.

---marlyse

It would seem I need two separate filters, which I know how to create,
but then I don't see a way to refer the first filter to the second.








Re: Complex Filter in PowerMail

2003-03-13 Thread Tim Hodgson

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 8:18 pm +0100, PowerMail Engineering wrote:

John Hay wrote:

How do I create a filter(s) to accomplish the following:
Filter incoming messages so that..
[From is x, or, From is y, or, From is z] [AND] [Subject does not contain
abc]

Create a folder in your address book with x, y and z, then create the
filter: [From is in folder xyz] [subject does not contain abc] [execute
if all conditions are met]

Discovering powerful, but hard to guess-at features like this, underlines
for me the fact that PM really, REALLY needs an up-to-date manual. Please!

TimH 




Re(2): remove specific attachments from messages automatically?

2003-03-13 Thread Jonathan Greene

very cool - will give this a whirl...

Thanks,
JG

-- 
Information isn't wisdom. Information isn't learning. If information
were learning, you could be educated by memorizing the world almanac.
If you did that, you wouldn't be educated. You'd be weird.

 - David McCullough, author/historian, in INC. magazine, May 2000

on Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:51:33 -0800 / Andy Fragen said: 

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003, Jonathan Greene said:

I have an account that does not support html messages due to my company's
gateway.  I'd like to automatically remove the attach*.html bits that
come in so I don't have to do it manually and don't clutter up my
attachments folder.  When I went to create a rule for this, the only
option seemed to be to remove all attachments, which is not what I want
to do, since I often receive Office docs there.  Any thoughts?

There is a script, Delete vCard Attachments that comes with PowerMail.
You could easily duplicate that script, change it, and run it from a
filter to act always on incoming messages.

***
tell application PowerMail
   set theMessages to current messages
   repeat with msg in theMessages
   repeat with attach in every attachment of msg
   if name of attach ends with (.html or .htm) then
   tell application Finder
   set f to file of attach
   move f to trash
   end tell
   end if
   end repeat
   end repeat
end tell
**

The above should work.
-- 
Andy Fragen








Re: Complex Filter in PowerMail

2003-03-13 Thread Marlyse Comte

have the first on top of the second filter and in the lower filter enable
'stop applying filters'. 

filters work in the list from the top down.

---marlyse

It would seem I need two separate filters, which I know how to create,
but then I don't see a way to refer the first filter to the second.




Complex Filter in PowerMail

2003-03-13 Thread John Hay



How do I create a filter(s) to accomplish the following:

Filter incoming messages so that..

[From is x, or, From is y, or, From is z] [AND] [Subject does not contain
abc]

It would seem I need two separate filters, which I know how to create,
but then I don't see a way to refer the first filter to the second.

John Hay
Quality is a result of intelligent effort.




Re: remove specific attachments from messages automatically?

2003-03-13 Thread Andy Fragen

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003, Jonathan Greene said:

I have an account that does not support html messages due to my company's
gateway.  I'd like to automatically remove the attach*.html bits that
come in so I don't have to do it manually and don't clutter up my
attachments folder.  When I went to create a rule for this, the only
option seemed to be to remove all attachments, which is not what I want
to do, since I often receive Office docs there.  Any thoughts?

There is a script, Delete vCard Attachments that comes with PowerMail.
You could easily duplicate that script, change it, and run it from a
filter to act always on incoming messages.

***
tell application PowerMail
set theMessages to current messages
repeat with msg in theMessages
repeat with attach in every attachment of msg
if name of attach ends with (.html or .htm) then
tell application Finder
set f to file of attach
move f to trash
end tell
end if
end repeat
end repeat
end tell
**

The above should work.
-- 
Andy Fragen




Re: Attachments

2003-03-13 Thread L . Cornelio



 a feature I dont find in PM: the 'clip' icon soo you know you have
 attachments! ( and related window to open the specific one that just
 arrived

Look at your messages in list view (e.g. 3-pane) and make sure you see
the 'size' column - it shows the attachment symbol in there if the
message has an attachment.

Too see just your recent arrived mail: shift-cmd-R (= Recent window)  - 
at the bottom of the now opened window you will be able to have read mail
to vanish from the Recent window or all messages.

---marlyse

Thanks Marlyse! Since I am a new user I missed that view  have now 
adjusted things with your help!


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Re: Extended Characters using Unicode! Thank You!

2003-03-13 Thread Judith Beiss

hello:

I've been following this thread as I too am interested in making the
apple say an apple. I often use characters from  PopChar, but I've
also suspected these characters may not translate.

Jerôme's response to use UTF-8 sounds like the answer especially as
messages will still be sent in ISO-8859-1 unless such characters are present.

Preferences shows two UTF-8 options: Unicode UTF  8 ,1.1 , and UTF 8, 2.0
. I assume the 2.0 option is the correct one, but would someone let me
know which as I plan to make this change.

I'm really pleased to have this info as I do use those special characters
fairly often.



Thank you Wayne, and Jérôme for the great information.  I had given up on
this, but now I have some options.

Much appreciated.

John Hay
Quality is a result of intelligent effort.





On Thursday, March 13, 2003 at 3:13 PM, PowerMail Engineering wrote:
John Hay wrote:

What's the secret to making the apple stay an apple, or is this now
possible ?

The secret is to send your messages in unicode: in the character sets
preference pane, chose the UTF-8 character set for the US / Western
europe language family. Note that the messages will still be sent in US-
ASCII or ISO 8859-1 when they don't contain unicode specific characters.

???


Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering


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Re: Attachments

2003-03-13 Thread Marlyse Comte

 a feature I dont find in PM: the 'clip' icon soo you know you have
 attachments! ( and related window to open the specific one that just
 arrived

Look at your messages in list view (e.g. 3-pane) and make sure you see
the 'size' column - it shows the attachment symbol in there if the
message has an attachment.

Too see just your recent arrived mail: shift-cmd-R (= Recent window)  - 
at the bottom of the now opened window you will be able to have read mail
to vanish from the Recent window or all messages.

---marlyse




Extended Characters using Unicode! Thank You!

2003-03-13 Thread John Hay



Thank you Wayne, and Jérôme for the great information.  I had given up on
this, but now I have some options.

Much appreciated.

John Hay
Quality is a result of intelligent effort.

On Thursday, March 13, 2003 at 3:13 PM, PowerMail Engineering wrote:
John Hay wrote:

What's the secret to making the apple stay an apple, or is this now
possible ?

The secret is to send your messages in unicode: in the character sets
preference pane, chose the UTF-8 character set for the US / Western
europe language family. Note that the messages will still be sent in US-
ASCII or ISO 8859-1 when they don't contain unicode specific characters.

???


Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering


-
   I have nothing but praises for PowerMail. It embodies the
ideaology of the macintosh: simplicty = power.
  Xing Li, PowerMail user

 Download a demo version from http://www.ctmdev.com
-




Re: remove specific attachments from messages automatically?

2003-03-13 Thread Marlyse Comte

Sorry about that reply, I have a specific PM filter that auto-replies to
the word remove in the subject line...

LOL - I guess you will need to adjust THAT one ;-)

---marlyse (too tired to begin working but not too tired to babble)




Re: Address book sync?

2003-03-13 Thread Marlyse Comte

I'd rather have it sync with my Palm address book, but that's another story.

Same here, I use the apple Address book rather as a backup or to get my
addresses also onto my desktop where rarely I use Mail to send something
(faster then first transferring to the PB (which is my admin station)) -
the reason I use the Address book so little is because if I use that to
sync with my Palm my Palm's own syn gets disabled and the Address book
does not (or did not) create categories and then also stopped syncing to
the Palm which I did not want to have happen and it was a big mess when I
tried getting Palm-Apple-PM as one big happy sync family. it sounded
great but either I had too little coffee that day or there are truly
still a few flaws in the process.

The other day I was positively surprised when I changed an address here
in PM and it automatically updated to the Address book (had forgotten
that I had set it to that;-) it's a nice feature.

---marlyse




Re: Attachments

2003-03-13 Thread C. A. Niemiec

it seems in PM there is no way to know which msgs have them 
 which not. Can this be true or am I missing something?

Fortunately false. In the mail browser window look at the Size column (by
default it's to the right). If there's an attachment a little paperclip
appears before the message size (the paperclip is also printed on the
column header, hint, hint). If you don't see that column, go View  View
Options... and be sure the attachment/size box is checked.

Attachments will be listed at the bottom of the message in either the
mail browser window (3 pane view) or the message opened into its own
window. If there are a number of them you will see a scroll bar there too
to go through them. If you hold down the control key you get additional
options regarding attachments (Open attachment, Show in Finder, Move to
trash).

Chris
-- 




Re(2): remove specific attachments from messages automatically?

2003-03-13 Thread Jonathan Greene

Guess it is a tad broad...

--

For every problem there is one solution which is simple, neat, and wrong.
   
-- H. L. Mencken

on Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:53:36 -0500 / Steve said: 

Sorry about that reply, I have a specific PM filter that auto-replies to
the word remove in the subject line...

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Steve
I have an account that does not support html messages due to my company's
gateway.  I'd like to automatically remove the attach*.html bits that
come in so I don't have to do it manually and don't clutter up my
attachments folder.  When I went to create a rule for this, the only
option seemed to be to remove all attachments, which is not what I want
to do, since I often receive Office docs there.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,
JG



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Re: Extended Characters in PM

2003-03-13 Thread Wayne Brissette

PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, March 13, 2003 stated:

The secret is to send your messages in unicode: in the character sets
preference pane, chose the UTF-8 character set for the US / Western
europe language family. Note that the messages will still be sent in US-
ASCII or ISO 8859-1 when they don't contain unicode specific characters.

The cavet is the other system must also support unicode. Most will, but
you will find some still won't. Depending on how compatible you need to
be, you may still want to avoid using Unicode (i.e. If you are sending
things to addresses that have .mil or .gov in them, and you NEED to
ensure things are read, don't use unicode). 

Wayne

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Re: Attachments

2003-03-13 Thread L.Cornelio

hello all!

I just joined the list as I am looking at PM - I need something to run 
under 9/X, so may have to give up Emailer (gasp!) But it is still the 
best - at least it seems so as it has a feature I dont find in PM: the 
'clip' icon soo you know you have attachments! ( and related window to 
open the specific one that just arrived)

I receive lots of them - but it seems in PM there is no way to know which 
msgs have them  which not. Can this be true or am I missing something? I 
hope I am wrong because I would like to become a PM convert  not run 
classic for emailer while in OSX.

Thanks!


Buy a Mac and be thought a fool
or buy a Windows box and remove all doubt.




Re: Extended Characters in PM

2003-03-13 Thread PowerMail Engineering

John Hay wrote:

What's the secret to making the apple stay an apple, or is this now
possible ?

The secret is to send your messages in unicode: in the character sets
preference pane, chose the UTF-8 character set for the US / Western
europe language family. Note that the messages will still be sent in US-
ASCII or ISO 8859-1 when they don't contain unicode specific characters.

???

Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering

-
   I have nothing but praises for PowerMail. It embodies the
ideaology of the macintosh: simplicty = power.
  Xing Li, PowerMail user

 Download a demo version from http://www.ctmdev.com
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Re: remove specific attachments from messages automatically?

2003-03-13 Thread Steve

You have been removed from the www.keylime.com mailing list. We thank you
for your interest, however brief it might have been. Just to assure you,
your email address has NOT been forwarded to any other people out there
and was used exclusively for our purposes.

Thanks again, stay well...

Steve
You have been removed from the www.keylime.com mailing list. We thank you
for your interest, however brief it might have been. Just to assure you,
your email address has NOT been forwarded to any other people out there
and was used exclusively for our purposes.

Thanks again, stay well...

Steve
I have an account that does not support html messages due to my company's
gateway.  I'd like to automatically remove the attach*.html bits that
come in so I don't have to do it manually and don't clutter up my
attachments folder.  When I went to create a rule for this, the only
option seemed to be to remove all attachments, which is not what I want
to do, since I often receive Office docs there.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,
JG



-- 
One thing at a time, all things in succession.  That which 
grows slowly endures.
--J. G. Hubbard 












Re: remove specific attachments from messages automatically?

2003-03-13 Thread Steve

Sorry about that reply, I have a specific PM filter that auto-replies to
the word remove in the subject line...

 Begin Forwarded Message 

You have been removed from the www.keylime.com mailing list. We thank you
for your interest, however brief it might have been. Just to assure you,
your email address has NOT been forwarded to any other people out there
and was used exclusively for our purposes.

Thanks again, stay well...

Steve
I have an account that does not support html messages due to my company's
gateway.  I'd like to automatically remove the attach*.html bits that
come in so I don't have to do it manually and don't clutter up my
attachments folder.  When I went to create a rule for this, the only
option seemed to be to remove all attachments, which is not what I want
to do, since I often receive Office docs there.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,
JG



-- 
One thing at a time, all things in succession.  That which 
grows slowly endures.
--J. G. Hubbard 





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Re: remove specific attachments from messages automatically?

2003-03-13 Thread Steve

You have been removed from the www.keylime.com mailing list. We thank you
for your interest, however brief it might have been. Just to assure you,
your email address has NOT been forwarded to any other people out there
and was used exclusively for our purposes.

Thanks again, stay well...

Steve
I have an account that does not support html messages due to my company's
gateway.  I'd like to automatically remove the attach*.html bits that
come in so I don't have to do it manually and don't clutter up my
attachments folder.  When I went to create a rule for this, the only
option seemed to be to remove all attachments, which is not what I want
to do, since I often receive Office docs there.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,
JG



-- 
One thing at a time, all things in succession.  That which 
grows slowly endures.
--J. G. Hubbard 








remove specific attachments from messages automatically?

2003-03-13 Thread Jonathan Greene

I have an account that does not support html messages due to my company's
gateway.  I'd like to automatically remove the attach*.html bits that
come in so I don't have to do it manually and don't clutter up my
attachments folder.  When I went to create a rule for this, the only
option seemed to be to remove all attachments, which is not what I want
to do, since I often receive Office docs there.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,
JG

-- 
One thing at a time, all things in succession.  That which 
grows slowly endures.
--J. G. Hubbard 




Re: Address book sync?

2003-03-13 Thread Barbara Needham

Jonathan Greene on 3/12/03 said

How exactly does this work?  It seems to work at about 80%...  

I have contacts who have been added in PM, and who make it back to AB,
but not all.  Same the other way.  Not all my original names have made it
to PM.  Also, while groups have synced over, not all the names in the
groups are there.

Thoughts?

Well, my own personal opinion [how can anyone have an opinion that isn't
there own personal opinion, come to think of it] is that neither address
book is really a very good one. I don't like the V-card format which the
Apple address book uses.

The PowerMail address book is actually more what I like, a simple name
and address, but it does have its limitations.

The only sync I actually do is every once in a while so there is a backup
in the Apple address book, but I don't actually use that one.

I'd rather have it sync with my Palm address book, but that's another story.

So, there is my non-answer to your question. Except that apparently I
agree some improvement is needed.

-- 
Barbara Needham




Tri-Backup Network rights (not PowerMail issue)

2003-03-13 Thread Max Gossell

At 10 mars 2003, 06.58 CET, John Hay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

After having struggled with the most confusing convoluted cryptic
application ever conceived (Retrospect), then CCC, I'm now in heaven.  I
use Tri-Backup which is SOO simple to use, SO reliable, it's
utterly ridiculous.  Where was this great app all my life.  Someone on
this list turned me onto it a few months ago and I've never looked back.
 You can't beat the price either, just fifty bucks!

Tri-Backup here:  
http://www.tri-edre.com/english/tribackup.html

I can't say enough about it.  I have no interest in the product other
than just being a totally satisfied OSX user.  At last! 

Just a thought, it may or may not meet all your needs the way it has mine. 

I downloaded the Tri-Backup after your enthusiastic words, after having
had some tech problems with Synchronize! Pro X http://www.qdea.com/
pages/pages-sprox/sprox1.html which also retails at double the prize.

Anyhow, the tech problems seem not to be so much because of the softwares
or OSX themselves as because of my own very limited tech knowledge. 

Which leads to a few questions that really are outside the subject
PowerMail, but since there is so much general knowledge in this group I
though I'd take a chance and ask anyhow. Please tell me if you think I'm
out of line, and I'll stick to PowerMail issues in the future.

1) I have a small (2 Macs) LAN with OSX v10.2.4 on the main machine and
OS 9.2 on the other, which I use as mail  backup server etc. Now, you
can give Tri-Backup root rights so it can take care of automated OS
volume backups etc, but when doing so it can't find the backup server
anymore. Or rather, it finds the server and says there are no (zero)
files on it. On the server, I have created one root and one normal (my
normal user account on the OSX machine) user account and put them
together in a group. I've tried to give the server volumes different
sharing rights (root, group, normal user etc) and I've tried to
connect to the server both as root and normal but nothing helps. If I
deactivate the Administrator Authorization there are no problems, Tri-
Backup finds the server and can perform its task. But the main idea with
this is to have Tri-Backup running at all times, performing different
kinds of backups, isn't it? There must be a way to configure the network
itself (and probably a quite easy one, if you know your way around
computers). Can you help?

2) The second issue is connected with the first one, as it needs to have
Administrator Authorization activated: I have a special volume for
mirroring the OSX drive locally. I set this up for use with Synchronize!
Pro to be able to create a bootable mirror volume. It worked but I had to
log out and log back in as root to be able to do it, and thus the idea
of automatic backups was gone. I read Tri-Backup can perform bootable
backups as well, and I tried to do it. It seems like Tri-Backup backed up
even the hidden files and all, but most files where placed in a _folder_
with the same name as the volume backed up. Which makes it un-bootable. 

This must be a simple mistake made by me when setting it up, but I can't
figure out how to do it right. I somebody can guide me through it I'd be
very happy.

Thanks for your attention and, again, please forgive me if I am way out
of line with this message.

Max G