Re: Weird highlighting bug
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003, it is attributed to Barry Parr to have said: My Powermail has gotten into a weird state when if there are unread messages in the In Tray, the In Tray name is in bold and when there are no unread messages, it's not bold, i.e. the opposite of what it should be. No other folders seem to be affected. apparently v4.2.1 solves that... have you given that a try? -- later, JS ask not for whom the bell tolls... ...someone'll get the door
Re: Weird highlighting bug
On 10 10 2003 at 2:57 pm -0400, Barry Parr wrote: My Powermail has gotten into a weird state when if there are unread messages in the In Tray, the In Tray name is in bold and when there are no unread messages, it's not bold, i.e. the opposite of what it should be. What you just described sounds exactly like normal behaviour. I will presume that you instead meant the opposite of what you said. Take a look at the number of unread messages displayed in the pane footer. I suspect you will find that when there are no unread messages, it will read -1. Have you tried rebuilding the indices (cmd-option on startup)? Are you running the latest version? -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca
Re: Weird highlighting bug
if there are unread messages in the In Tray, the In Tray name is in bold and when there are no unread messages, it's not bold, i.e. the opposite of what it should be. If there are unread messages in ANY tray/folder, that tray/folder will show in BOLD, has been that way as long as I can recall. Dual Gig G4-1.7gb/X.2.8/PM4.2.1 12PB867-649mb/X.2.8/PM4.2.1 - - www.keylime.com the Mother of all keylime related domain names - -
Weird highlighting bug
My Powermail has gotten into a weird state when if there are unread messages in the In Tray, the In Tray name is in bold and when there are no unread messages, it's not bold, i.e. the opposite of what it should be. No other folders seem to be affected. bp --- Barry Parr [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://parr.org p: 650.728.2183 m: 650.823.8850 I think out loud at MediaSavvy http://mediasavvy.com Barry Parr's daily analysis of Internet media news and research ---
Re: upgrade request, anyone agree?
Well, now that I play with the idea a bit, couldn't we just add a contextual menu item for a selection that checks if a highlighted e-mail address is in the address book? This is what I am looking for, that the address-user is recognized in the body of the mail the same way it is in the recipient box, with icon, that way, as the contextual menu already allows us, we can delete from the body. write an AppleScript that combines this with a check for the static Mail returned: user unknown subject lines, or permanent fatal errors or user unknown. One problem with returns from the larger ISP's is that there can be many returns on one mail for a variety of reasons (mailbox quota full etc.) in addition to user unknown or permanent fatal error. One script might end up deleting all included addresses because of one key-word. In addition, to prevent accidental deletions from the mailbox, PM already includes the ever-present warning before deletion, cannot undo. Simply recognizing iconized users in the body as such, would do it. if I'm not bastardizing what you meant to communicate... not at all...
Re(4): retro-style
Marlyse Comte wrote on Fri 10 Oct 2003 at 09:26 -0500 I don't know if that means encrypted mail (I doubt it) - but you can easily encrypt your mail now already: PGP works great with PowerMail. No, I am asking for secure SSL type mail. I asked my host and they said I needed STARTTLS. -- david.gordon
Re(5): retro-style
At 9:26 AM -0500 on Friday, October 10, 2003, Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That and adding STARTTLS capability. YES - please, if that means encrypted mail... -- david.gordon I don't know if that means encrypted mail (I doubt it) - but you can easily encrypt your mail now already: PGP works great with PowerMail. No, it's a secure SMTP method (the other is using SSL on port 465, which PM currently offers). I was interested in STARTTLS because I can use it with my Earthlink e-mail account, but not SSL on port 465. Emily -- iMac G3 600 MHz (Summer 2001) | Mac OS X 10.2.6 | PM 4.2.1 | 512 MB RAM
Re(4): retro-style
That and adding STARTTLS capability. YES - please, if that means encrypted mail... -- david.gordon I don't know if that means encrypted mail (I doubt it) - but you can easily encrypt your mail now already: PGP works great with PowerMail. ---marlyse
Re: upgrade request nee Bulk Emailers
Just an addition to my last email after some more light researching. There are some bulk emailers which may do better what Steve is trying to now in PowerMail. Here is one list I found of possibilities: http://email.about.com/cs/macbulkreviews/ It includes the promising Direct Mail which is just $25. http:// homepage.mac.com/jhammer/dm/index.html The software says it validates addresses. Intellimerge http://www.intellisw.com/intellimerge/ is more expensive at $80 but says it handles bouncebacks. MailDrop http:// freshlysqueezedsoftware.com/products/maildrop/ is $59 and touts an advanced parser for weeding out invalid email addresses. Just some thoughts since 4000 addresses in just one list sounds like you might be ready for something more robust to handle newsletters, group mailings, whatever. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com
Re: upgrade request, anyone agree?
If PM would recognize the addresses in the body of the mail as a user in my database, a simple delete user from the menu would save me much time and effort. For instance, instead of highlighting the e-mail address as a clickable URL, it would highlight ones in the address book with a different color? Then a contextual menu on that would give you a delete address from address book. I'm not sure a menu bar selection would be good. Imagine the confusion if you accidentally selected it on a message with several addresses enclosed! ... Well, now that I play with the idea a bit, couldn't we just add a contextual menu item for a selection that checks if a highlighted e-mail address is in the address book? Like right now, I can highlight a word and get spelling options in addition to cut/copy/paste, or to create a new text clipping. Is there an AppleScript entry that 1. checks if an address is in the address book, 2. can delete an entry from the address book? With those two bits you could easily** write an AppleScript that combines this with a check for the static Mail returned: user unknown subject lines, or permanent fatal errors or user unknown. This seems safer than a global menu option, if I'm not bastardizing what you meant to communicate... Chris -- ** yeah, easily. Or if you're like me, you could, uh... get someone to write it for you! :D
Re: upgrade request, anyone agree?
Steve Tarpin sez: I send out mails to a number of groups, the largest group being my entire mailing list of over 4000 names/addresses If PM would recognize the addresses in the body of the mail as a user in my database, a simple delete user from the menu would save me much time and effort. My first thought when reading this is that PowerMail isn't really designed to be used as a mail list manager. There is software out there to do this which might be better suited to the task, allowing for statistical tracking, better user management and more. My second thought is that everyone likes to use the tools they have to their fullest extent, so likely they're going to try to do things like what you're doing until they run into a hangup like you've done. :) My third thought was that I actually agree this is an interesting idea anyway. Better recognizing of email addresses in bodytext could also allow one to add an address to the addressbook from there. Right now they can only be added from the header areas, I think. However, after saying all that, I'm not sure PM is designed for that to happen since we're looking at different fields here. So, that leaves AppleScript. I'm not incredibly knowledgeable in the area, but it seems to me this might be something that could be scripted. Select a series of messages, scan the body text for email addresses and remove addresses it finds from the address book. It may be possible to add in user interaction, too, to say yes or no to each. You might really want to look into other software to manage the lists while leaving PowerMail to just do email. If you use Mac OS X, you could even install Unix-based solutions, such as the free MojoMail. MacjorDomo looks interesting as well. In my cursory look, none look like a very very quick setup,some might like external web hosting sites but remember Mac OS X has SMTP services and such so it might be possible to route through there. I'm not sure -- but I set up listserv software on Linux once so I'm sure it's possible? The benefit of struggling through the setup, however, would be that the list could nearly manage itself. People can subscribe and unsubscribe themselves (if you turn on the feature) and some of these things recognize bouncebacks and remove or flag the email address automatically, I believe. This is just an idea. After my cursory look, I'm not sure how feasible it is. Plus, I'm sure I remember seeing specific list management software; perhaps they were database solutions. At any rate, I'm going to keep searching and see if I can find what I remember or something similar to it. It just seems to me something like what you're doing already exists, free or cheap, and it would leave PowerMail to do what it is really designed to do... -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com
Re: upgrade request, anyone agree?
2x1MHz extremely fast!
Re(3): retro-style
Emily Jackson wrote on Fri 10 Oct 2003 at 06:28 -0500 That and adding STARTTLS capability. YES - please, if that means encrypted mail... -- david.gordon
upgrade request, anyone agree?
Have I got news for you... both of these points will be addressed in PowerMail's future ! I have made this request a number of times to Jerome and the staff, still waiting to see this improvement and wondering if anyone else can bolster my request, perhaps elaborate on it (if you understand what I am asking for,) as sometimes I think my way of explaining things can be a bit unclear. I send out mails to a number of groups, the largest group being my entire mailing list of over 4000 names/addresses. Anyone doing the same experiences the dreaded non-delivery notices, dead mailboxes, full mailboxes, user unknown, whatever. Because PM recognizes the address ONLY as an address (in the message text) and NOT as a user (with user-icon) I have to double-click on that address, create an outgoing mail, reveal that particular user in my address book and THEN delete them, then discard the new outgoing mail. Quite a task when deleting 10% of your entire address database. If PM would recognize the addresses in the body of the mail as a user in my database, a simple delete user from the menu would save me much time and effort. This alone is making me look for another mail app, even though I have been using PM for 4+ years. Perhaps I am overlooking something that already exists in PM, so I ask for suggestions that do not involve using another application. I guess what I am hoping for is some support here, so that the folks making the improvements can see how important this is to some of us. regards... Steve PM 4.2.1 OSX 10.2.8 2x1MHz PowerPC G4 1.75 GHz OSX 10.2.8 12 867 MHz PB (powerbook lite) 640 MB 12
Re(3): retro-style
At 7:33 PM -0500 on Thursday, October 9, 2003, H.R. Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope the issue of truncating attachment names has higher priority. Max Gossell wrote on 10/9/03: Have I got news for you... both of these points will be addressed in PowerMail's future ! That and adding STARTTLS capability. [Being a Eudora refugee, I'm used to archaic e-mail interfaces. ;-) ] Emily -- iMac G3 600 MHz (Summer 2001) | Mac OS X 10.2.6 | PM 4.2.1 | 512 MB RAM
Re(2): retro-style
I hope the issue of truncating attachment names has higher priority. Max Gossell wrote on 10/9/03: Have I got news for you... both of these points will be addressed in PowerMail's future !
PM4.2.1 DB error on search / JP HTML crap out
I am not getting smooth ride with PM4.2.1 on OSX10.2.6 JP Locale. I turn HTML off, but all the HTML email sent from Apple Japan are now totally corrupted. It is as if PM is trying to display HTML message in wrong encoding. What's interesting is that I don't have this problem with any other HTML messages. They show up with HTNL junk tags as expected. I am not sure if this is related, but if I do search body content by mac I get this: Index error occurred (Jèrôme, remember this Japanese string is grammatically incorrect!) Class=QIE; what=12; when=34 (index) Rebuilding index didn't fix the problem. All other word seems to be fine. Only mac is causing the problem so far. Very strange! One other thing. PM4.2.1 is definitely slower than previous versions on my TiBook800/1GB :_( I do maintenance often. Permission, Onyx, etc... -- - Hiro [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED]
Re: Indexing error
Previously, on [EMAIL PROTECTED], at 2:28 AM on 10/9/03, the ever- persistent PowerMail was overheard saying indexing error class=QIE ; what=9; when=2 (index) Rebuild the search index from the file / database menu. thanks-worked like a charm! Jo _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Back in the 50's They thought it made good sense To teach all the schoolchildren About civil defense Don't be scared Do not cry Just dive under your desk and kiss your ass goodbye. Jimmy Buffett
Re: retro-style
On 09 10 2003 at 6:56 am -0400, Per Åström wrote: Look at the Connect Again-button on the toolbar. Isnt it rather OS9- ish? In fact, arent all the buttons retro-looking! I don't use the toolbar, but personally I find almost all of the button icons used throughout PM to be ambiguous and visually unhelpful. (Example: in mail filters: there is a cog wheel. I have to mouse-over it to be reminded that it means new filter. Then there are a pair of stacked rectangles. I have to mouse-over it to remember that it means duplicate. Then there is a trash can which, well, I admit is fairly intiutive.) -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca
Re: retro-style
Per Åström on 10/9/03 said Look at the Connect Again-button on the toolbar. Isnt it rather OS9- ish? In fact, arent all the buttons retro-looking! They look fine to me.. -- Barbara Needham
Re: retro-style
They are. Not to mention the bar itself. I've been nagging about this before - the bar should of of course be attached to the window itself (just like i.e. Mail.app) together with the small top right button option to toggle the bar on/off. I find this floating bar tremendously irritating, and as I am a button user I can't turn it off. Even if there is a parallell OSX/OS9 development, I can't see any reason why the OSX version must look like past times. From a sales point of view I also believe CTM would benefit from a fresher look. If you download an OSX trial version you expect the software to look like a modern OSX app. If it look too retro you might think the development doesn't catch up with modern times and drop it before you even gave it a chance. Max G At Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:56:17 +0200 (CET), Per Åström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look at the Connect Again-button on the toolbar. Isnt it rather OS9- ish? In fact, arent all the buttons retro-looking! /per å
retro-style
Look at the Connect Again-button on the toolbar. Isnt it rather OS9- ish? In fact, arent all the buttons retro-looking! /per å
Re: Bug or feature?
add 1 line to your existing filter (for your wife): after the resend action add 'set status to unread' - this should bold it again. not sure if it will show in the recent window (I doubt it though), but the folder for your wife should show bold. Thank you, I hadn't found these Mail Action choices. It works as described AND the message shows in the Recent Mail window. -- Charles
