Re: Anyone at home?
I said this earlier (to CTM): First of all, thanks for responding and rendering my response to Matthias pointless. :-) I meant the response to Matthias I *didn't* send, not the shortened post I actually did send as a response to Matthias. I should have been more clear on that.
Re: Anyone at home?
Am 19.03.10 00:08, schrieb MB: Matthias wrote: this implies that your problem is of different nature. What imples what? I understood that you had this issue also with other mail clients. Maybe I misinterpreted you, sorry for that. My guess would be a corrupt database on the server (which can be big fun). I never had such problems with PM, neither any of my family members who still use PM. This is highly unlikely given this has been a problem: - for me since version 4 at least of PowerMail - on 6+ different mail accounts on different domains and servers, with different email server applications and different versions of those. servers - of which one was my very own mail server - for an extended length of time. Were talking *years* here. - on 4-5 different Macs surviving reinstalls of the OS, the PowerMail application, new clean PowerMail databases. - this problem doesn't occur if I use another application in parallell, it occurs in PowerMail only. ok, the last thing was the point I misunderstood. The problem here is that others didn't report any problems like that. I've also never seen something like that and I was using PM intensively with some 10 accounts for years and my wife and parents are still using PM without any problems. So you say that your PM database gets out of sync with the downloaded mails. Does this mean PM doesn't recognize the status of a mail as being read? - I've seen this issue with a recovered database, as the recovering process was not recovering the status of the mail, so all mails from the server were marked as unread and PM was retrieving them again. This is clearly a server issue and happens only with postboxes which were repaired on the server or does this mean PM doesn't recognize the status of a mail as being unread and not retrieving it? - I've never seen this. Could you be a bit more clear about what happens? Can you also post the settings done under Account - Receiving. There are different possibilities, like leaving copies of retrieved mail on the server. You said you've seen that on different boxes of yours, also with a brand new database. So I guess we can exclude a hardware problem on the client side (corrupt RAM or HD). If you have SSH access to the server you could check it also from the terminal. At the moment IMAP and web mail replaces PowerMail doing it properly for me. As the problem is mainly affecting my main email account which prevents me from being up to date within PowerMail I'm nearing changing that hoping the problem will go away - though this approach hasn't helped me in the past - or switching email app, or both possibly. But still, I'd rather not. After all, this kind of problem should be solveable. the problem won't go away by itself magically. I assume there is either a problem with your special settings or somewhere else. You need to find the source of problem, else it can't be solved. cheers Matthias
Download Imap Mails
How do I force a download of Imap mails? I have deselected the option Get mails over size of xxx partially (translated from german) for the current scheduling, but every time I navigate between messages the individual messages are downloaded. In AppleScript I can see two options to set this value. One for the current scheduling and one for each account. However, the UI only shows this for the current scheduling. Bug or feature? Using Powermail 6.0.3 on Power Mac with OS 10.6.0. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Trixi Willius http://www.mothsoftware.com Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email http://www.beatrixwillius.de Fractals, 3d landscapes etc.
Re: Download Imap Mails
Beatrix Willius asked: How do I force a download of Imap mails? You can't I'm pretty sure. I have deselected the option Get mails over size of xxx partially (translated from german) for the current scheduling This only affects POP connections to my knowledge. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB
Re: Anyone at home?
Powermail said: The problem here is that others didn't report any problems like that. This means only that the problem isn't widespread. Nevertheless it affects the heart of PowerMail. I'm far beyond believing that this can only be affecting my accounts and my Macs. What it could be is something related to the history of my DB (current and earlier versions), but in the end that actually shouldn't affect the function of getting messages. Whatever the history, PM should be able to query the mail server about new messages and get them all. No? or does this mean PM doesn't recognize the status of a mail as being unread and not retrieving it? - I've never seen this. Could you be a bit more clear about what happens? It's an intermittant problem it seems, but when it's active it stays. This is the problem in a nutshell with my current account that displays this problem: At the outset of using Gmail in PowerMail on 2 different accounts I attempted to download every message for both accounts, which PowerMail and the server wisely choose to do in chunks of a few hundred messages**. I left them all on the server I think, but I'm not sure actually. After many rechecks all messages actually were downloaded on one account at least. The other problem-affected account stil haven't got all messages even as I set it to redownload every message (currently 4000+) at one point. Over time PowerMail continues not to download all messages that actually are on the server on one gmail account, while downloading seemingly every message on my other (this one). So the symptom is that PowerMail check for new mail and there isn't any. But on the server, if you check via IMAP in PM or in the web interface, there are indeed messages. The delay can be measured in days at a minimum. I can not be sure that some messages are never downloaded. Hopefully PM will download the messages at the server that haven't been downloaded at some point. But this year actually, I discovered not that not one (!) of the messages received on server on the problem account have been downloaded. Can you also post the settings done under Account - Receiving. It's very normal and yes, I've left messages on server for both accounts. Receiving Protocol: POP3 ID: my email POP: pop.gmail.com Connect secure: SSL, dedicated secure port: 995 Leave copies of fetched messages on server the problem won't go away by itself magically. Well, duh'! I assume there is either a problem with your special settings or somewhere else. There's nothing special about them. You need to find the source of problem, else it can't be solved. That's why I have asked for ideas on how to diagnose the problem. I'm going to post the support at Gmail and see what they say. I will also try another email application again and get all messages from the problem account. I'm not holding my breath however. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB ** There is another related problem in that if the connection to the server is ended prematurely which can happen if you want to get all messages on the server, then PowerMail will redownload messages it actually already have downloaded. This results often in duplicates. I have thousands of duplicates in my message DB on the working account, even as I wrote a script to get them out. I got tired of doing that all the time I guess and gave up. Built-in duplicate message handling in PowerMail would be extremely useful.
Re: Anyone at home?
On 3/19/10, at 1:54 PM, MB digital.disc...@gmail.com said: Receiving Protocol: POP3 ID: my email POP: pop.gmail.com Connect secure: SSL, dedicated secure port: 995 Leave copies of fetched messages on server The only difference with my set-up, which works fine, is only my user name is in ID -- not my e-mail address. Tom Miller .. The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark ...
Re: Anyone at home?
Am 19.03.10 22:23, schrieb T.L. Miller: On 3/19/10, at 1:54 PM, MB digital.disc...@gmail.com said: Receiving Protocol: POP3 ID: my email POP: pop.gmail.com Connect secure: SSL, dedicated secure port: 995 Leave copies of fetched messages on server The only difference with my set-up, which works fine, is only my user name is in ID -- not my e-mail address. probably his problem is the amount of mail ... 4000+ that's a lot and who can read so much? I get maybe some 300 to 400 mails per day and don't read them all. cheers Matthias
Re: Anyone at home?
MB digital.disc...@gmail.com wrote (Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:54:25 +0100): At the outset of using Gmail in PowerMail on 2 different accounts I attempted to download every message for both accounts, which PowerMail and the server wisely choose to do in chunks of a few hundred messages**. I left them all on the server I think, but I'm not sure actually. After many rechecks all messages actually were downloaded on one account at least. The other problem-affected account stil haven't got all messages even as I set it to redownload every message (currently 4000+) at one point. (...) I assume there is either a problem with your special settings or somewhere else. There's nothing special about them. You've got thousands of messages on a POP server? Well, I'd call that special... Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that an email client doesn't need to be able to handle such an amount of messages. It is, in my opinion, a special case nonetheless which might explain why no one else seems to have the problem you do. Kind regards, Tobias Jung
Bounces
Hallo, could someone please remove this guy from the list or configure LetterRip in way that it doesn't forward bounces. - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - rolf.tob...@tobler-consult.ch thanks Matthias
Re: Anyone at home?
On 19/03/2010 9:37 AM, Tobias Jung wrote: MBdigital.disc...@gmail.com wrote (Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:54:25 +0100): At the outset of using Gmail in PowerMail on 2 different accounts I attempted to download every message for both accounts, which PowerMail and the server wisely choose to do in chunks of a few hundred You've got thousands of messages on a POP server? Well, I'd call that special... Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that an email client doesn't need to be able to handle such an amount of messages. It is, in my opinion, a special case nonetheless which might explain why no one else seems to have the problem you do. Kind regards, Tobias Jung I don't think you understand. Gmail is ostensibly an IMAP service, basically another email service in the cloud. :-) It is a service designed so that one never needs to delete mail and is accessible anywhere. However, it does have a POP front end as an alternative way in. Same mail store, different method. At work I have my copy of T-bird (PC, 3.x) configured to access both my gmail accounts using IMAP. At home on my Mac I have PowerMail configured to use POP to access the same accounts. In both the PM configurations, the account is set to leave the mail on server indefinitely, thereby mimicking the effect of IMAP. As a result, you *could* say that I too have a POP server account instance with thousands of messages on it. It even seems to have my sent messages as well sent from my POP instance at home. Nice feature. :-)
PM Truncates Text String
I've just added a new mail account that has a quite long domain name. In the Mail Accounts window Receiving tab Incoming mail server field I've inserted the pop3. prefix followed by a 34 character string. After completing the settings I discovered that PM won't receive any incoming messages because, in some way, it had truncated the last seven characters of the incoming mail string. It actually cut off the characters that exceeded the field where they where inserted in, in the Mail Accounts window. Though, this happens after saving the Mail accounts window. In all the other fields this don't occur even though these fields are containing a larger number of characters than what they can actually display. Any suggestion? Thank you in advance. Giovanni
