Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
PowerMail Engineering (26/10/04 8:45 am) said: Power Mail becomes slow and unresponsive if it is running while its mailbox is backed up. Be careful that if you backup a file while it is open, the backup can be inconsistant. At least, make sure to not check mail during the backup! I know. It's just curious that this has a permanent affect on Power Mail's performance. I restart my machine every day, and it gets backed up at night when I'm not logged in - so I'm rarely affected. But I know other users who used to leave their machines logged in (with Power Mail running) and Power Mail became almost unusable as a result. Jeremy
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
Jeremy Hughes wrote: Power Mail becomes slow and unresponsive if it is running while its mailbox is backed up. Be careful that if you backup a file while it is open, the backup can be inconsistant. At least, make sure to not check mail during the backup! Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - I've recently switched from Entourage X and I want to say that PowerMail is really slick. Small, fast and versatile. Andy Fragen, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
I've been using 'Shark' and 'Spin Control' (developer tools) on PowerMail recently, to understand when/why it briefly but annoyingly stalls when checking mail. A pattern has emerged. It seems to be a call stack like this: Call graph: 117 Thread_4b03 117 start 117 _start 117 main 117 LApplication::Run() 117 CPMApp::ProcessNextEvent() 117 LTSMDocApp::ProcessNextEvent() 110 LEventDispatcher::UseIdleTime(EventRecord const) 110 LPeriodical::DevoteTimeToIdlers(EventRecord const) 110 CPMApp::SpendTime(EventRecord const) 110 CMAS::Idle() 110 CPOP3Engine::Idle() 109 CMASServerDataDB::WritePOPUIDLList(CDatabase::IDType, std: :vectorCPOP3Monitor::FetchedMsgUID, std::allocatorCPOP3Monitor: :FetchedMsgUID const) 94 basic_binstream::operator(std::basic_stringchar, std: :char_traitschar, std::allocatorchar const) 94 0x3b6a0c 94 memstreambuff::Write(char const*, unsigned long) 94 memstreambuff::reallocate(long) 73 memcpy 73 __copy_longs_aligned Can anyone confirm? Running 'Spin Control' is easy, but you do need the dev tools installed. -- Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
Jeremy Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on Mon, Oct 25, 2004 6:52 said: I did have a couple exchanges with them, and it seems they can't reproduce it after giving them details of my settings and such, that led me believe I was the only one having this problem. Are you using Retrospect? I'm not, at all. There might be other programs which have this effect - maybe any program which tries to access files which Power Mail is using. In my case, its definitely PM's fault. I see the problem with nothing but Finder and PM running. A-NO-NE Music ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on Mon, Oct 25, 2004 8:59 said: Again, I monitor with '(su) top -u' as well as MenuMeter to make sure nothing is in the background disk i/o. On the other hand, PM is the one slows other apps when downloading from my 13 mail accounts, which I set in 3 min interval to check. Exactly the same with me. -- Erroneous google translation: To cook with the furnace approximately 15 minutes and to be useful.
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
Jeremy Hughes (25/10/04 11:52 am) said: Power Mail becomes slow and unresponsive if it is running while its mailbox is backed up. If you quit and restart Power Mail it goes back to normal again. Just to make this a bit clearer: Power Mail becomes slow and unresponsive in checking and collecting mail from the time when Retrospect accesses its files and continues to be slow and unresponsive until you restart it. The slowdown is permanent, not temporary, until you restart Power Mail. Jeremy
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
Jeremy Hughes / 04.10.25 / 6:52AM wrote: Are you using Retrospect? Not in the background. There might be other programs which have this effect - maybe any program which tries to access files which Power Mail is using. Again, I monitor with '(su) top -u' as well as MenuMeter to make sure nothing is in the background disk i/o. On the other hand, PM is the one slows other apps when downloading from my 13 mail accounts, which I set in 3 min interval to check. -- - Hiro [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED]
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
Sean McBride / 04.10.22 / 0:26AM wrote: Great! (sort of :)) So anyone at ctm see this? For me, its the #1 PM bug, I'd be happy to help fix it (tests, etc.). I did have a couple exchanges with them, and it seems they can't reproduce it after giving them details of my settings and such, that led me believe I was the only one having this problem. -- - Hiro [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED]
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
H.R. Riggs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on Thu, Oct 21, 2004 15:33 said: I experience it. You are not alone! Great! (sort of :)) So anyone at ctm see this? For me, its the #1 PM bug, I'd be happy to help fix it (tests, etc.). Thanks! -- Erroneous google translation: To cook with the furnace approximately 15 minutes and to be useful.
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
I experience it. You are not alone! A-NO-NE Music wrote on 10/21/04: Sean McBride / 04.10.19 / 1:17PM wrote: I do have CPU-usage problems with PM 5.1b3 though. When checking for mail, PM briefly uses 100% CPU for about 2 seconds. The app becomes totally unresponsive and the mail checking progress bar freezes up. Quite annoying. I have a 1.2 GHz G4. Anyone see this? Yup, yup, and is not PM5 specific. I have had this since PM4, and no one else has seen it until now. You just made me finally feel I am not alone :-) -- - Hiro [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED]
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
Sean McBride / 04.10.19 / 1:17PM wrote: I do have CPU-usage problems with PM 5.1b3 though. When checking for mail, PM briefly uses 100% CPU for about 2 seconds. The app becomes totally unresponsive and the mail checking progress bar freezes up. Quite annoying. I have a 1.2 GHz G4. Anyone see this? Yup, yup, and is not PM5 specific. I have had this since PM4, and no one else has seen it until now. You just made me finally feel I am not alone :-) -- - Hiro [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED]
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
Thank-you Jerome - you've put my mind at ease! I would hate to upgrade to V.5 if the excessive HD activity were to persist while using the full version. From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:39:30 +0200 John Leiher wrote: since I had already tried out a demo 5xxx when it had first been released some months ago, the demo has expired. No problem with that however, my impressions of the original demo - from what I can remember - are good... One problem I do notice however is the excessive CPU usage with this demo.. There is a bug that cause a lot of disk activity when PowerMail is in the expired demo state. There is no such problem during the 30 days trial period, or after PM has been registered. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
John Leiher wrote: since I had already tried out a demo 5xxx when it had first been released some months ago, the demo has expired. No problem with that however, my impressions of the original demo - from what I can remember - are good... One problem I do notice however is the excessive CPU usage with this demo.. There is a bug that cause a lot of disk activity when PowerMail is in the expired demo state. There is no such problem during the 30 days trial period, or after PM has been registered. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - PowerMail's Foxtrot search is still VERY fast and quite useable. I have close to 30,000 messages stored in my PowerMail message database - going back to 1995 or so - and PowerMail is still fast and responsive. Searching through the bodies of ALL of these messages for a keyword takes about 1 SECOND which is pretty incredible! PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
On 10/19/04 at 8:01 PM, PowerMail discussions (powermail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thank-you to all who've responded to my query so far... as an adendum to my previous post I did notice a tremendous amount of HD activity while PM V. 5.1b3 demo is running or idle. I think this explains the high CPU activity - perhaps it is looking for a database that doesn't exist? Because the demo has expired, I have no way of instituting a new database or a previous one because the program is for all intents and purposes locked. Perhaps someone on staff could explain the HD activity with 5.1? V. 4.1.2 - as I mentioned previously, works without fault on my system. I would really like to upgrade PM to V.5 but until I can resolve the CPU and HD activity, I can't. John I'm investigating the possibility of upgrading PM from V. 4.1.2 to version 5. I downloaded the 5.1b3 demo this morning and since I had already tried out a demo 5xxx when it had first been released some months ago, the demo has expired. No problem with that however, my impressions of the original demo - from what I can remember - are good... One problem I do notice however is the excessive CPU usage with this demo.. Activity Monitor indicates 45 to 55% CPU usage when Powermail V.5 is idle. PM 4.1.2 uses 1.9 to 2.5% CPU when idle and Apple Mail uses 0.5% when idle. Have any of you folks on the list had any experience with this excessive CPU performance? 333/G3upgraded7600/682mbRam/Tempo133/2_ATA_MaxtorHD180GBtotal/ATIRadeonMac From: Jim Pistrang [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm running 5.1b1 and seeing between .9 and 1.5 when PM is idle and in the background. As I type this, I see levels between 5 and 10. I say do the upgrade! From: alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] On a much faster machine (2 x 2.0 GHz G5) I get 0.2-0.5% usage (out of 200%) when PM is in the background. OSX 10.3.latest. From: Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your CPU is slow, but I think that's certainly not normal. I do have CPU-usage problems with PM 5.1b3 though. When checking for mail, PM briefly uses 100% CPU for about 2 seconds. The app becomes totally unresponsive and the mail checking progress bar freezes up. Quite annoying. I have a 1.2 GHz G4. Anyone see this?
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
On a much faster machine (2 x 2.0 GHz G5) I get 0.2-0.5% usage (out of 200%) when PM is in the background. OSX 10.3.latest. A John Leiher at Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:53:20 -0400 said: I'm investigating the possibility of upgrading PM from V. 4.1.2 to version 5. I downloaded the 5.1b3 demo this morning and since I had already tried out a demo 5xxx when it had first been released some months ago, the demo has expired. No problem with that however, my impressions of the original demo - from what I can remember - are good... One problem I do notice however is the excessive CPU usage with this demo.. Activity Monitor indicates 45 to 55% CPU usage when Powermail V.5 is idle. PM 4.1.2 uses 1.9 to 2.5% CPU when idle and Apple Mail uses 0.5% when idle. Have any of you folks on the list had any experience with this excessive CPU performance? 333/G3upgraded7600/682mbRam/Tempo133/2_ATA_MaxtorHD180GBtotal/ATIRadeonMac
Re: CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
Hi John, One problem I do notice however is the excessive CPU usage with this demo.. Activity Monitor indicates 45 to 55% CPU usage when Powermail V.5 is idle. I'm running 5.1b1 and seeing between .9 and 1.5 when PM is idle and in the background. As I type this, I see levels between 5 and 10. I say do the upgrade! Jim -- Jim Pistrang JP Computer Resources Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network 413-256-4569 http://users.crocker.com/~pistrang
CPU Usage query_PowerMail V. 5.1b3 demo
I'm investigating the possibility of upgrading PM from V. 4.1.2 to version 5. I downloaded the 5.1b3 demo this morning and since I had already tried out a demo 5xxx when it had first been released some months ago, the demo has expired. No problem with that however, my impressions of the original demo - from what I can remember - are good... One problem I do notice however is the excessive CPU usage with this demo.. Activity Monitor indicates 45 to 55% CPU usage when Powermail V.5 is idle. PM 4.1.2 uses 1.9 to 2.5% CPU when idle and Apple Mail uses 0.5% when idle. Have any of you folks on the list had any experience with this excessive CPU performance? 333/G3upgraded7600/682mbRam/Tempo133/2_ATA_MaxtorHD180GBtotal/ATIRadeonMac
