Re(3): PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-10 Thread Jonathan Greene

on Sun, 9 Mar 2003 21:41:22 -0800 /Barbara Needham said: 

Jonathan Greene on 3/9/03 said

on Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:30:38 -0800 /Barbara Needham said: 

Jonathan Greene on 3/9/03 said

One more...  

Space Bar ... I like the usual scan through a message, but why not go to
the next message as well if you reach the end?

Space bar does this in three pane view. Per folder, It doesn't jump to
the next folder.
And my messages are sorted by date.


Only seems to work if your messages are sorted most recent at the
bottom... just tried again.

Why not the other way?

Works both ways for me -- only for unread messages. Not ones that are
already read. Single key read with space bar was actually one of my
requirements for an e-mail client.

I guess that must be it then... only unread.  Thanks!

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Re(2): PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-10 Thread Barbara Needham

Jonathan Greene on 3/9/03 said

on Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:30:38 -0800 /Barbara Needham said: 

Jonathan Greene on 3/9/03 said

One more...  

Space Bar ... I like the usual scan through a message, but why not go to
the next message as well if you reach the end?

Space bar does this in three pane view. Per folder, It doesn't jump to
the next folder.
And my messages are sorted by date.


Only seems to work if your messages are sorted most recent at the
bottom... just tried again.

Why not the other way?

Works both ways for me -- only for unread messages. Not ones that are
already read. Single key read with space bar was actually one of my
requirements for an e-mail client.
-- 
Barbara Needham




Re(2): PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-10 Thread Jonathan Greene

on Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:30:38 -0800 /Barbara Needham said: 

Jonathan Greene on 3/9/03 said

One more...  

Space Bar ... I like the usual scan through a message, but why not go to
the next message as well if you reach the end?

Space bar does this in three pane view. Per folder, It doesn't jump to
the next folder.
And my messages are sorted by date.

Only seems to work if your messages are sorted most recent at the
bottom... just tried again.

Why not the other way?

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Re: PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-10 Thread Barbara Needham

Jonathan Greene on 3/9/03 said

One more...  

Space Bar ... I like the usual scan through a message, but why not go to
the next message as well if you reach the end?

Space bar does this in three pane view. Per folder, It doesn't jump to
the next folder.
And my messages are sorted by date.
-- 
Barbara Needham




Re: PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-09 Thread Andy Fragen

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On Sun, Mar 9, 2003, Jonathan Greene said:

sorted by date here and it does not work...

OS X 10.2.4 PM 4.1.2


on Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:06:22 -0800 /Andy Fragen said: 

On Sun, Mar 9, 2003, Jonathan Greene said:

Space Bar ... I like the usual scan through a message, but why not go to
the next message as well if you reach the end?

It does this for me. Sorted 3 pane view by subject.

I don't believe Entourage would scroll to the next message unless the
folder was sorted by subject either.

I do agree that regardless of how the messages are sorted using the space
bar should go to the next unread message in the folder.

-- 
Andy Fragen




Re: PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-09 Thread Andy Fragen

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On Sun, Mar 9, 2003, Neil Lee said:

One other thing that would be nice to see is a proper mailing list
manager, so I could set a always reply to email address for mailing
lists. This is one of the few things that Entourage does quite well that
no other client handles gracefully...

I agree. Entourage does this exceedingly well.

If you subscribe to the digest of a list I've written a script package
that will burst the digest to individual messages and optionally add a
Reply-To: header to the mailing list. It can be found on Wayne's PM
Script page.

-- 
Andy Fragen

TiBook 400/384 RAM - OS X 10.2.4 - PowerMail v4.1.2




Re(2): PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-09 Thread Jonathan Greene

sorted by date here and it does not work...

OS X 10.2.4 PM 4.1.2

-- 
One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the
work of one extraordinary man.
--Elbert Hubbard

on Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:06:22 -0800 /Andy Fragen said: 

On Sun, Mar 9, 2003, Jonathan Greene said:

Space Bar ... I like the usual scan through a message, but why not go to
the next message as well if you reach the end?

It does this for me. Sorted 3 pane view by subject.




Re: PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-09 Thread Andy Fragen

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On Sun, Mar 9, 2003, Jonathan Greene said:

Space Bar ... I like the usual scan through a message, but why not go to
the next message as well if you reach the end?

It does this for me. Sorted 3 pane view by subject.

-- 
Andy Fragen

TiBook 400/384 RAM - OS X 10.2.4 - PowerMail v4.1.2




Re: PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-09 Thread Christian Roth

Dear Jonathan,

Highlights... can this be an entire line instead of just a subject? 
Seems to be an awkward implementation.

I think this is on purpose, as it allows you to start drawing a selection
rectangle from the non-highlighted points in a line. Otherwise, if the
full line was highlighted, starting a drag from a point within that
highlighted area would have to start a drag of the message instead of
starting to draw a selection rectangle - at least from a HIG perspective.

Arrow Keys...Why can we not utilize the arrow keys in the recipients
space to easily move to another contact.  Having to use the mouse is ok,
but the keyboard is much faster - especially when combined with Shift+Tab

I think this is already possible:

*.. Ctrl-up/down: select recipient (if already entered)

*.. Starting to type: enter recipient

*.. Cmd-up/down: choose adressing mode 
(To / CC / BCC, while entering recipient)

*.. Backspace: delete currently highlighted recipient

*.. Tab: move from Name to Address field (while entering address)

Drafts... Anyway to set where these get saved?  Why in the Out Tray?  Why
not in a Drafts Tray?  I have found no preference for this and find it
can be easy to forget about a message or two...

Drafts are always at the top in the Out Tray (when sorted by Sent date
and if they haven't been sent yet, even if they are older than other sent
messages). Since I file sent messages with a filter away into their
corresponding folders, I can keep the Out Tray sorted by Sent date
without problem and see at a glance which messages are still in draft
mode. You may also sort by Status, of course.

Regards, Christian.




Re: PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-09 Thread Neil Lee

Highlights... can this be an entire line instead of just a subject? 
Seems to be an awkward implementation.

Threads... I love the idea of highlighting by thread in Mail and it is
something I always found great when scrolling through a long list of
messages...

Oh yeah! I totally agree for both of these.

One other thing that would be nice to see is a proper mailing list
manager, so I could set a always reply to email address for mailing
lists. This is one of the few things that Entourage does quite well that
no other client handles gracefully...

Neil
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PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-09 Thread Jonathan Greene

So a few days into PowerMail and I am noticing things that work, but
perhaps not quite as expecting having used Entourage and Mail...

Highlights... can this be an entire line instead of just a subject? 
Seems to be an awkward implementation.

Threads... I love the idea of highlighting by thread in Mail and it is
something I always found great when scrolling through a long list of
messages...

Arrow Keys...Why can we not utilize the arrow keys in the recipients
space to easily move to another contact.  Having to use the mouse is ok,
but the keyboard is much faster - especially when combined with Shift+Tab

Drafts... Anyway to set where these get saved?  Why in the Out Tray?  Why
not in a Drafts Tray?  I have found no preference for this and find it
can be easy to forget about a message or two...

Message actions...Keyboard shortcuts... Why is there no way to mark read
or unread from the keyboard?  Has there been though about a contextual
menu or actual menu to transfer messages into folders?  That seems like
an obvious one - especially when viewing through the Recent Mail view.

I'm hooked - really like PM!  Just a few nits...

Thanks,
JG

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and Steve Wozniak's attempts to interest the company in the personal 
computer they had designed, 1976.