[OT] These are the scum that voted to burn flags
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RE: [NF] How to disable Windows Genuine Advantage from phoning themothership.
It's there now! Oh no it's not! It is now. ... and throws a stream of js errors! Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] How to disable Windows Genuine Advantage from phoningthemothership.
Don't know as I haven't tried it Dave Crozier A computer is a stupid machine with the ability to do incredibly smart things, while computer programmers are smart people with the ability to do incredibly stupid things. They are, in short, a perfect match - Bill Bryson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Sent: 28 June 2006 09:02 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] How to disable Windows Genuine Advantage from phoningthemothership. It's there now! Oh no it's not! It is now. ... and throws a stream of js errors! Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Strong parameter checking
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Ed Leafe As Bruce Eckel stated, strong testing, not strong typing. The two are not mutually exclusive, and why have only one when you can have both? The compiler does not lead to a false feeling of security, because we as professional developers understand what sort of errors the compiler can catch, and we can develop appropriate (unit) tests for the rest. Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Strong parameter checking
The two are not mutually exclusive, and why have only one when you can have both? No they are not, and the article did not state that either. It was making the point that strongly typed languages can lead to more inflexible implementations compared to a weaker typed language. It was also making the point that a criticism that is often levelled at weakly types languages is that they are more likely to lead to run-time errors related to their impementation. However, this criticism can be discarded with a greater emphasis on testing. And there is likely to be more time available for testing due to the quicker development times that weakly types languages are capable of. Regards Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP Third Party Developer Program Senior Software Engineer * Tel: +44 (0) 1536 495074 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. -- Tony Hoare, Turing Award Lecture 1980 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eyvind Axelsen Sent: 28 June 2006 09:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Strong parameter checking -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Ed Leafe As Bruce Eckel stated, strong testing, not strong typing. The two are not mutually exclusive, and why have only one when you can have both? The compiler does not lead to a false feeling of security, because we as professional developers understand what sort of errors the compiler can catch, and we can develop appropriate (unit) tests for the rest. Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ Pegasus Software Limited is a member of the Systems Union Group plc Registered Office: Systems Union House, 1 Lakeside Road, Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hampshire GU14 6XP Registered No: 1601542 This e-mail is from Pegasus Software Limited. The e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Please notify the sender by e-mail or telephone. Pegasus Software Limited utilises an anti-virus system and therefore any files sent via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. You are however advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Pegasus Software Limited will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received. This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] ooops
Madigan, http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_177194808.html It was pretty stupid for Limbaugh to think that he could carry prescriptions around with someone else's name on them after his track record with prescription drugs. Other than stupidity, though, it doesn't seem like much else of import happened. -- Kris www.shamrocktrails.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] -- Windows Genuine program revised following uproar
Ahhh haaa! This explains why its takes ages for my laptop to login every morning! Remember I while back with the Dabo false virus flag (my laptop is not connected to the internet), well every now and again I do connect up to the Windows Update site, and guess what, the WGA has been installed. I wondered why the lappie was taking ages to login! Gawd damn you Mickiesoft! Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Anderson Posted At: 27 June 2006 22:05 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] -- Windows Genuine program revised following uproar Subject: [NF] -- Windows Genuine program revised following uproar Responding to pressure from irked Windows users, Microsoft released an updated version of its antipiracy program on Tuesday that changes the frequency with which the program checks for pirated or counterfeit copies of its client operating system. A new version of Microsoft's Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA) Notifications program available now no longer checks a server-side configuration of a user's version of Windows every time the user logs on to see if it is a valid copy of Windows. Instead, it periodically checks to see if the user's copy is genuine. http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/06/27/79681_HNwgachange_1.html [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
ActiveX errors.
Does anyone have a list of error numbers that pertain to ActiveX controls in VFP, maybe specifically ones that could be thrown when attempting to AddObject an ActiveX control? Say if the control is not present on the machine? This is VFP6 so I can't wrap the AddObject in TRY ... ENDTRY. Also the form error handler needs to trap ActiveX-specific errors but bubble all others up to the default handling. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Strong parameter checking
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Dominic Burford And there is likely to be more time available for testing due to the quicker development times that weakly types languages are capable of. I would say that this is highly dependant on the type of application that you are making. I have worked with both weakly and strongly typed languages, and I must say that for large projects involving multiple developers and changing requirements, strong, static typing speeds things up, simply because refactoring is so much easier to do. Furthermore, IMO, static (as opposed to just strong) typing is very valuable for intellisense, which is able to provide a lot more info in than in a language with weak/dynamic typing, and this alone can speed up development considerably. Eyvind ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Strong parameter checking
I must say that for large projects involving multiple developers and changing requirements, strong, static typing speeds things up, simply because refactoring is so much easier to do. I'm curious to find out how. I would have thought a strongly typed language would have been *more* difficult to refactor, for the same rasons that it can take longer to develop using them i.e. they can prevent certain object interactions due to their enforcement of data types, and thus leads to additional code being written which conforms to these constraints. Furthermore, IMO, static (as opposed to just strong) typing is very valuable for intellisense, which is able to provide a lot more info in than in a language with weak/dynamic typing, and this alone can speed up development considerably. I agree, but I don't think this was ever under dispute, as the article concentrated solely on strong typing. Regards Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP Third Party Developer Program Senior Software Engineer * Tel: +44 (0) 1536 495074 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. -- Tony Hoare, Turing Award Lecture 1980 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eyvind Axelsen Sent: 28 June 2006 12:27 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: Strong parameter checking -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Dominic Burford And there is likely to be more time available for testing due to the quicker development times that weakly types languages are capable of. I would say that this is highly dependant on the type of application that you are making. I have worked with both weakly and strongly typed languages, and I must say that for large projects involving multiple developers and changing requirements, strong, static typing speeds things up, simply because refactoring is so much easier to do. Furthermore, IMO, static (as opposed to just strong) typing is very valuable for intellisense, which is able to provide a lot more info in than in a language with weak/dynamic typing, and this alone can speed up development considerably. Eyvind ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ Pegasus Software Limited is a member of the Systems Union Group plc Registered Office: Systems Union House, 1 Lakeside Road, Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hampshire GU14 6XP Registered No: 1601542 This e-mail is from Pegasus Software Limited. The e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Please notify the sender by e-mail or telephone. Pegasus Software Limited utilises an anti-virus system and therefore any files sent via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. You are however advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Pegasus Software Limited will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received. This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Strong parameter checking
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Dominic Burford Sendt: 28. juni 2006 14:04 Til: ProFox Email List Emne: RE: Strong parameter checking I'm curious to find out how. I would have thought a strongly typed language would have been *more* difficult to refactor, for the same rasons that it can take longer to develop using them i.e. they can prevent certain object interactions due to their enforcement of data types, and thus leads to additional code being written which conforms to these constraints. True, but on the other hand, if you change, say, a method signature, a compiler can spot every place in which a change is needed. Furthermore, if you change the name of a function or class member or the order in which parameters are sent to a function, a tool such as VS can do the refactoring for you automatically. Still, I guess the answer to the question of development speed and strong/static vs weak typing is: it depends =) Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
App Data generation
Hi All, Just pondering about something. How do you guys sort the data out for a new application installation? Do you generate it from within your program using the data layer to build up whatever files are required therefore the same generation code can be used for DBF/MySQL/MSSQL/yada...? Just gathering some thoughts together... Cheers all Tristan Leask Software Developer Marine Software Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marinesoftware.co.uk -- Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: App Data generation
Tristan Leask wrote:
Hi All,
Just pondering about something.
How do you guys sort the data out for a new application installation?
Do you generate it from within your program using the data layer to
build up whatever files are required therefore the same generation code
can be used for DBF/MySQL/MSSQL/yada...?
Hi Tristan,
I'm sticking to DBF's for now so this only works for that option. It
also works nicely for when I modify a table or add a new one.
I have a new app installation exe that will generate all the DBF's for
me using a function in Stonefield Database Toolkit. I just make sure
the meta data files plus the DBC are copied over then I put in a text
file update.txt in the system folder and check for this on startup.
If the file is there I call
oMeta.SetDatabase(dbc())
IF oMeta.oSDTMgr.NeedUpdate()
oMeta.oSDTMgr.Update()
ENDIF
ERASE ('system\update.txt')
Cheers
Peter
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RE: VFP7: DSN programatically
On Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:09 PM Chet Gardiner wrote: Control Panel Administrative Tools Data Sources System DSN Tab... I guess you missed the part about 'programmatically'! David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: App Data generation
Hmm sounds good but I am not using the Stonefield kit.
Currently in the systems running at the moment we have a chkfiles
program that keeps the data structures correct. But this is just suited
to dbfs.
At the moment I am tinkering with my own n-Tier design (building from
scratch to learn). I want to do something similar as to what we were
doing before but using the data layer to alter tables.
One thought I had was to either have a generic checkfiles() in the app
object or possible put a checkfiles() in each biz object, thus they
would look after there own files. The second route I think is going to
end up in more complicated maintenance and probably just will not work.
Tristan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Peter Cushing
Posted At: 28 June 2006 14:17
Posted To: Profox Archive
Conversation: App Data generation
Subject: Re: App Data generation
Tristan Leask wrote:
Hi All,
Just pondering about something.
How do you guys sort the data out for a new application installation?
Do you generate it from within your program using the data layer to
build up whatever files are required therefore the same generation
code
can be used for DBF/MySQL/MSSQL/yada...?
Hi Tristan,
I'm sticking to DBF's for now so this only works for that option. It
also works nicely for when I modify a table or add a new one.
I have a new app installation exe that will generate all the DBF's for
me using a function in Stonefield Database Toolkit. I just make sure
the meta data files plus the DBC are copied over then I put in a text
file update.txt in the system folder and check for this on startup.
If the file is there I call
oMeta.SetDatabase(dbc())
IF oMeta.oSDTMgr.NeedUpdate()
oMeta.oSDTMgr.Update()
ENDIF
ERASE ('system\update.txt')
Cheers
Peter
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RE: ActiveX errors.
-Original Message-
From: Alan Bourke
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:10 AM
Subject: ActiveX errors.
Does anyone have a list of error numbers that pertain to ActiveX controls in
VFP, maybe specifically ones that could be thrown when attempting to
AddObject an ActiveX control? Say if the control is not present on the
machine?
This is VFP6 so I can't wrap the AddObject in TRY ... ENDTRY. Also the form
error handler needs to trap ActiveX-specific errors but bubble all others up
to the default handling.
--
Alan Bourke
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-Original Message-
Why can't you wrap it in a try catch?
code
private oTry, oTest
oTry = createobject([trycatch])
oTest = .NULL.
oTry.Try([oTest = createobject('OleTest.Test1')])
?oTry.cMessage
define class trycatch as custom
nError = 0
cMethod =
nLine = 0
cMessage = 0
procedure try
lparameter tcExec
tcExec
endproc
procedure error
lparameter nError, cMethod, nLine
this.nError = nError
this.cMethod = cMethod
this.nLine = nLine
this.cMessage = message()
return
endproc
enddefine
/code
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RE: ActiveX errors.
That woudl work great assuming the custom class error event grabs any error before the form error method does. Which I presume it will. Thanks Tracy! -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: App Data generation
Tristan Leask wrote: Hmm sounds good but I am not using the Stonefield kit. Currently in the systems running at the moment we have a chkfiles program that keeps the data structures correct. But this is just suited to dbfs. At the moment I am tinkering with my own n-Tier design (building from scratch to learn). I want to do something similar as to what we were doing before but using the data layer to alter tables. One thought I had was to either have a generic checkfiles() in the app object or possible put a checkfiles() in each biz object, thus they would look after there own files. The second route I think is going to end up in more complicated maintenance and probably just will not work. I'm sure this sort of thing would have been done by someone (and tested etc). That's why I went for Stonefield. I would not have to reinvent the wheel and it gave me other benefits (like a reindex function etc) Peter ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Strong parameter checking
Dominic Burford wrote: I must say that for large projects involving multiple developers and changing requirements, strong, static typing speeds things up, simply because refactoring is so much easier to do. I'm curious to find out how. I would have thought a strongly typed language would have been *more* difficult to refactor, for the same rasons that it can take longer to develop using them i.e. they can prevent certain object interactions due to their enforcement of data types, and thus leads to additional code being written which conforms to these constraints. I work in a strongly typed language and find this totally FALSE. It is easier to refactor in C# /VS2005 then any other IDE I have worked in. In VS2003 it took a little more time. Just hit Build and it would find all the parts missed in a single refactor of a method used all over your app. Now thus leads to additional code being written which conforms to these constraints. OK this is a valid POV from a VFP person who says I just need to add a day to my date. dDate = dDate +1 dDate = dDate.AddDays(1); So it is more verbose, in that you have to define what your adding to the object. But you do get more out of it. dDate = dDate.AddMonths(2); dDate = dDate.AddYears(1); Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] These are the scum that voted to burn flags
Michael Madigan wrote: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm ?congress=109session=2vote=00189#position First freedom of speech/action next it will be your GUNS. What's a constitution for anyway when we have to fix it all the time lately. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] These are the scum that voted to burn flags
Protect the flag, but desecrate our constitutional liberty; I don't thnk so! #--- Protect the flag; desecrate liberty Thank you, Dianne Feinstein. Composition teachers all over the country are indebted to the Democratic senator from California for an editorial published Tuesday in USA Today. Instead of tearing their hair out trying to instruct students in the finer points of logic, rhetoric and critical thinking, teachers will henceforth be able to simply pull out Feinstein's piece and say, ''Don't do this.'' They will never find a better illustration of a bad argument badly made. Feinstein is co-sponsor of something called the Flag Protection Amendment, the latest congressional effort to amend the Constitution to protect the U.S. flag from ''desecration'' - an interesting word, given its connotations of religious devotion. Her editorial in support of the amendment certainly hits all the patriotic sweet spots, invoking the image of Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima, reminding us that the flag is a symbol of ''our democracy, our shared values, our commitment to justice, and our eternal memory of those who have sacrificed to defend these principles.'' But there's more. Feinstein notes that Congress has power to protect the Lincoln Memorial from defilement, so surely it should have similar power to protect the flag, ''our monument in cloth.'' She denies the amendment would infringe free speech, because, ''There is no idea or thought expressed by the burning of the American flag that cannot be expressed equally well in another manner.'' As arguments go, this one has it all - pathos, tears, drama. Everything except actual, you know, logic. The comparison to the Lincoln Memorial, for example, might make sense if the flag were a single iconic structure housed on federal land instead of a banner that shows up on fanny packs, T-shirts, used-car lots and suburban mailboxes. As for the idea that anyone who wants to express an idea by burning the flag can express the same idea equally well through other means, that's not her call. Who is she to tell me - or you, or anyone - what means we may or may not use to express a political opinion? If someone loathes their country and wants to express that opinion, who is she to decide what words, methods or approach that person is allowed to use? If free speech means anything, it means that she doesn't have that right. Feinstein, by the way, is reacting to a crisis that does not exist. You know how many flag ''desecrations'' there have been this year? Twenty-five, you think? A dozen? There've been three. This is according to the Citizens Flag Alliance, a group that ''supports'' the proposed amendment. ''Three.'' More people were struck by lightning. Heck, I bet more people spontaneously combusted. So essentially what we have here is an effort to amend the Constitution and abridge the First Amendment in order to stop people from doing what people aren't doing. Am I the only one who finds this more than faintly ridiculous? The rapper Chuck D, among others, calls them ''weapons of mass distraction,'' these periodic outbursts of noise and inanity whereby our leaders attempt to hijack the public's attention, direct it away from anything that means anything. As the use of those weapons go, this one feels especially cynical, playing as it does on love of country and respect for the sacrifices of forebears. But maybe we should love the one and respect the other enough to stand up for real American ideals and demand that our representatives do the same, rather than play games of symbolism that solve no problems, address no issues and insult our collective intelligence in the process. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. ''And'' to the Republic for which it stands. But there's a big difference between honoring the flag and fetishizing it, especially at the cost of doing violence to the Constitution. Apparently nobody cares if we desecrate that. http://www.reporternews.com/abil/op_columns/article/0,1874,ABIL_7981_4799970,00.html or http://tinyurl.com/naums #--- Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109session=2vote=00189#position New Lower Prices * Horse Racing Photos at http://www.HorseRacingPix.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] -- Windows Genuine program revised following uproar
On 6/28/06, Profox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday my PC alerted me to an update, which was WGA and I killed it. Oh, no, this time I'm sure they've got it right g,dr! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] AD Printer madness
Depending on the size of your AD and the number of DCs you have, it can take a little time to replicate. Tristan Leask wrote: PMSL! Damn thing just decided to start working now! Shesh! I must remember to bill MS for wasting my time g Tristan Windows cannot connect to the printer. Either the printer name was typed incorrectly or the specified printer has lost its connection to the server. Now I know the printer is fine, because if I add it via the share name instead of using the AD, it installs okay and prints fine. -- Richard Kaye Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: App Data generation
On 6/28/06, Tristan Leask [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just pondering about something. How do you guys sort the data out for a new application installation? Do you generate it from within your program using the data layer to build up whatever files are required therefore the same generation code can be used for DBF/MySQL/MSSQL/yada...? Are you talking about the data itself, or the data structures/metadata? I use xCase for data design, and it generates create scripts (like GenDBC scripts). When I make a change, it generates an update script. We can pass those around, run them as part of an update process and store them in source code control to track changes. The way to do it right is to store a free table that has a version number and a script to move from the previous version to the current one. Store a version number inside the database. Compare the two and run the scripts to upgrade from old to new. Most of my apps are custom and installed in a few sites, so we manage the process manually. The shoemaker's children and all that. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Gartner mailing I received
On 6/27/06, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the magazine ads that read: Microsoft SQL Servers provide us with a 99.98% uptime* then you read the 2pt font footnote and it says Results not typical Jason Ha! What a perfect response that counter-ad would make! I love it! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Forcing Combo Box opening Upwards
Does anyone know a way of forcing a combobox to open in the upwards direction as opposed to the default downwards direction? VFP seems to decide itself whether the list is too large to open in the default downwards direction depending on the amount of window space available below the combobox but I want to force the box in an upwards direction. Any Ideas? Dave Crozier A computer is a stupid machine with the ability to do incredibly smart things, while computer programmers are smart people with the ability to do incredibly stupid things. They are, in short, a perfect match - Bill Bryson -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 27/06/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP7: DSN programatically
I've got something I can send you. Let me look it over so I can explain it... g David Crooks wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:09 PM Chet Gardiner wrote: I guess you missed the part about 'programmatically'! -- Richard Kaye Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] WebProNews: Executive Summary of AJAX
On Jun 28, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Andy Davies wrote: execCommand-SaveAs is still against the spirit of the js sandbox It is Java that is supposed to come with a 'sandbox' that wouldn't allow such actions; JavaScript has nothing to do with Java. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: ActiveX errors.
On 6/28/06, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That woudl work great assuming the custom class error event grabs any error before the form error method does. Which I presume it will. Thanks Tracy! And that TRY... CATCH works in VFP6. Wasn't it a later add-on? ActiveX errors are 1426 through 1429, iirc. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Forcing Combo Box opening Upwards
Dave Crozier wrote: Does anyone know a way of forcing a combobox to open in the upwards direction as opposed to the default downwards direction? VFP seems to decide itself whether the list is too large to open in the default downwards direction depending on the amount of window space available below the combobox but I want to force the box in an upwards direction. Any Ideas? Hi Dave, Can't see any way to control this. The combo seems to drop down even below the edge of the current app if it can, but will go upwards if it means it will go over the taskbar. Maybe there is a custom control available to do this? Peter ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] WebProNews: Executive Summary of AJAX
well I have got a cut down example to sort of work ... in IE Firefox shows an 'uncaught exception' in the js console, and writes nothing. Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] WebProNews: Executive Summary of AJAX
JavaScript has nothing to do with Java. -- Ed Leafe I know. js is also supposed to run in a restricted state or 'sandbox' - with no access to the local file system. Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Forcing Combo Box opening Upwards
Dave Crozier wrote: Peter, 95% of the time VFP gets it correct but just occasionally it displays the dropdown combo OFF the screen and it is a real pain to move the window upwards so you can select an entry! This might sound a bit silly but you could move the control upwards a bit just before it displays the list, then after it loses the focus move it back. Just an idea. Peter ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Docking Toolbar in Top-Level Form
From: Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problem: I'm trying to make a top level form in which a toolbar is dockable. I just sold a VFP 9.0 to a newbie and was going to email him some VFP sites to look at. One was www.foxite.com and on the main page is a link to an article by Mike Feltman called: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Docking in VFP. The article link points to LAFox.org, (LA user group), but I don't see the article there. Maybe Bill Anderson could point the way. Jim Eddins ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] WinFS is dead?, Part 2
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[NF] WinFS is dead?, Part 2
http://blogs.msdn.com/winfs/archive/2006/06/26/648075.aspx Rodney Dixon McKee Foods Corportion P.O. Box 750 Collegedale TN 37315 Phone: (423)238-7111 x22629 == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information in this electronic message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be privileged or proprietary. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, disclosure, copying, downloading, or other use of the information is prohibited and unauthorized, and may be unlawful, regardless of address or routing. If you are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender immediately and permanently delete and destroy the original and any copies of this message, including any attachments. == --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP7: DSN programatically
What I did is based on a class written by Mark McCasland, which also has a dependency on something written by Rick Strahl for reading/writing the registry. At the time, I needed to create a DSN for my app to use and had been doing it manually at each user's desktop. I was able to take Mark's code and customize it to test for the existence of the DSN and create it if it wasn't there. It's driven by storing the DSN parms in a VFP table. Anyway, what I did is pretty specific to my situation but could be fairly simply adapted to what you want. OTOH anyone who has the chops to rewrite Lotus Organizer in VFP probably doesn't need to see something as specific as what I've done. g So I've sent you the stuff that I pinched from Mark off list. He's done a nice job of documenting it and shows a number of examples. If you still want to discuss my specific implementation after you've looked at his stuff, I'll be happy to do so. David Crooks wrote: I do appreciate it! -- Richard Kaye Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Docking Toolbar in Top-Level Form
I just sold a VFP 9.0 to a newbie and was going to email him some VFP sites to look at. One was www.foxite.com and on the main page is a link to an article by Mike Feltman called: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Docking in VFP. The article link points to LAFox.org, (LA user group), but I don't see the article there. Maybe Bill Anderson could point the way. Jim Eddins I just looked at foxite.com and didn't see the link you refer to, but at http://f1technologies.blogspot.com/ Mike has a blog entry titled Taming Dockable Toolbars. Regards, Jim ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Docking Toolbar in Top-Level Form
And for a quick tip on docking from Mike, check his blog entry of June 16 http://f1technologies.blogspot.com/ Profox wrote: From: Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problem: I'm trying to make a top level form in which a toolbar is dockable. I just sold a VFP 9.0 to a newbie and was going to email him some VFP sites to look at. One was www.foxite.com and on the main page is a link to an article by Mike Feltman called: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Docking in VFP. The article link points to LAFox.org, (LA user group), but I don't see the article there. Maybe Bill Anderson could point the way. Jim Eddins -- Richard Kaye Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: How To Know If an Internet Connection is Active
oIE = createobject( 'internetexplorer.application') oIE.Navigate2( http://www.yahoo.com; ) oIE.Document.Body.InnerHTML should have something other than the 404 error If you are shipping MSXML 3 for XMLtoCursor you'll have this available oHTTP = createobj(MSXML2.XMLHttp.3.0) oHTTP.Open(GET,http://www.yahoo.com;) TRY oHTTP.Send() CATCH oHTTP = .NULL. ENDTRY IF ISNULL(oHTTP) *-- Unable to connect to internet ENDIF Tracy -Original Message- From: G Gambill Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: How To Know If an Internet Connection is Active How can I determine if an Internet Connection is active for PostCast Server. I thought about oIE = createobject( 'internetexplorer.application') oIE.Navigate2( http://www.yahoo.com; http://www.yahoo.com/) but can't figure out how to programatically test if that was successful. TIA George ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Need Microsoft Echange Server guru
Vince, I've been managing a small Exchange 2003 installation since last fall. I wouldn't put myself in the guru class though. Maybe you can post the specifics of the issue for comments from the peanut gallery? Vince Teachout wrote: I just received the following email from one of my oldest clients: I need to contact a Microsoft Echange Server guru - John's having an issue that's messing up our e-mail - talked to 6 MS techies - all diiferent responses - believe it is Echange Server 2003 - the only blasted thing we are using it for is contacts -- Richard Kaye Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: How To Know If an Internet Connection is Active
Here is some code I use: (I made some changes for obvious reasons and I have not checked this code) lcURL = http://www.yahoo.com; Local ; lodoc, ; lcText, ; loie, ; llResult llResult = .T. Try loie = Createobject(internetexplorer.Application) Catch To oException llResult = .F. If Vartype(oException)='O' And ssidebug With oException ssiMessageBox ( ; 'Error '+Transform(.ErrorNo)+Chr(13)+ ; ' '+.Message+Chr(13)+ ; ' '+.LineContents+Chr(13)+ ; ' '+.Procedure ) Endwith Endif Endtry If !llResult Or !Vartype(loie) = O ssiMessagebox(There is a problem with your Internet connection+Chr(13)+ ; If you are able to access the xxx main web site+Chr(13)+ ; Please report this to xxx) Return .F. Endif *loie.Visible = .T. loie.Navigate(lcURL) Inkey(.3) need a small delay to setup the display. Do While loie.Busy() DoEvents Inkey(.1) Enddo lodoc = loie.Document lcText = lodoc.documentElement.innerText * now you can look in lcText to see if it has what you expect from that web site - Original Message - From: G Gambill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: How To Know If an Internet Connection is Active How can I determine if an Internet Connection is active for PostCast Server. I thought about oIE = createobject( 'internetexplorer.application') oIE.Navigate2( http://www.yahoo.com; http://www.yahoo.com/) but can't figure out how to programatically test if that was successful. TIA George --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] WinFS is dead?, Part 2
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 13:28 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] WinFS is dead?, Part 2 On 6/28/06, Rodney Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://blogs.msdn.com/winfs/archive/2006/06/26/648075.aspx Question #1: 'Is WinFS dead? Yes and No. Well, thanks for clearing that up. Whatever WinFS may have been, and that would depend which sources you were listeningt to, is not shipping as a feature in any OS they are willing to commit to, except maybe Cairo. What was WinFS supposed to be anyway? A search engine to kill Google Desktop, WIndows Desktop Search (formerly Apple Spotlight) or a new way to add metatags onto any object within the filesystem? Did anyone here have plans to use it? Killer apps to take advantage of it? -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com === Good questions, Ted. The answers are Yes and No, depending on who you talk to. I think if M$ knew the answers, we would be that much closer to having WinFS in our hands. HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Docking Toolbar in Top-Level Form
I just sold a VFP 9.0 to a newbie and was going to email him some VFP sites to look at. One was www.foxite.com and on the main page is a link to an article by Mike Feltman called: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Docking in VFP. The article link points to LAFox.org, (LA user group), but I don't see the article there. Maybe Bill Anderson could point the way. Jim Eddins I just looked at foxite.com and didn't see the link you refer to, but at http://f1technologies.blogspot.com/ Mike has a blog entry titled Taming Dockable Toolbars. Regards, Jim The link I referred to on www.foxite.com is under the Latest Community News section. I just re-checked and it's still there. Jim Eddins ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: How To Know If an Internet Connection is Active
G Gambill wrote: How can I determine if an Internet Connection is active for PostCast Server. I thought about oIE = createobject( 'internetexplorer.application') oIE.Navigate2( http://www.yahoo.com; http://www.yahoo.com/) but can't figure out how to programatically test if that was successful. TIA George Hi George: Declare Integer InternetCheckConnection in Wininet.dll String Url, Long Flags, Long Reserved lnResult = InternetCheckConnection(http://leafe.com/,1,0) If lnResult != 0 Msg = Connected! Else Msg = Not connected! EndIf MessageBox(msg) HTH Jaime Vasquez Guatemala, C.A. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Comments on my VFUG Editorial
I was recently asked to write a guest editorial for the VFUG Newsletter, which I did. I lamented the fact that I was 99% out of VFP now and living in a Linux world, described the tools I use now, whined a lot, etc.. I had a section where I said I couldn't move our database front end (currently written in Access) to VFP because of various issues, one of which is quoted below. Some guy emails taking issue with one of my comments: Great idea having a guest editorial, but does anyone read it before it goes out ? I haven't got a problem that Matt has moved to Linux, but was somewhat disappointed that he includes the following in his editorial piece. (quote) And lastly, I can't in good conscience recommend that we go that direction (VFP) with the specter of MS pulling the plug on VFP as a product. It just wouldn't look too good for me to push VFP as a development environment (as much as I'd like to), spend months or years making the data front end better (and add all the features my users want), only to have MS yank VFP off the market. (endquote) Yuk, a lot of good work is being done to promote VFP, and this ancient comment in your editorial is disappointing. Not that I really give a rats ass, but is there something wrong with my statement - especially since it's just my own opinion? Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager Bike Friday - Performance that Packs. www.bikefriday.com 541/687-0487 x140 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial
On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Matthew Jarvis wrote: Not that I really give a rats ass, but is there something wrong with my statement - especially since it's just my own opinion? There is no danger of Microsoft pulling the plug on VFP as a product; they did that nearly a decade ago. The problem with recommending VFP for new development, as I see it, are twofold: 1) Lock-in to Windows. If you even *think* you might need to run the app on a non-Microsoft OS at some point in its useful life, then VFP is not a good choice. 2) Lack of developers. Unless the company has a history and culture of VFP development, it will be difficult to find qualified developers. The numbers simply aren't there, and new blood is trickling in at best. This may be good for VFP consultants, but bad for the companies. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial
VFP's future has not looked good for quite some time. I don't think Microsoft will discontinue it, but Microsoft seem to have cut VFP off from the vine; hence, with each new release by Microsoft's new Windows desktop and Server OS, VFP will become more and more obsolete. Here is the pattern: 1) Microsoft refused to extend VFP table capacity beyond its 2 gig limit, when Microsoft originally acquired VFP. 2) Microsoft dropped support of ODBC support for VFP, as of VFP 7, when it adopted its OLE DB driver. This occurred even though ODBC was faster than OLE DB and even though ODBC was the industrial standard used by all databases including DB2, MSSQL, Oracle, Informix, Sybase, MySQL, PostgreSQL, etc. There was absolute no need for the change; except, to make the driver connection to MSSQL proprietary. This caused much grief with the need to update VFP cleint server applications that connected to the database of TCP/IP; rather, than NETBIOS. 3) As of VFP9, it is no longer possible to develop apps in anything less than Window 2000 or Window XP, even though VFP application conpiled on these platforms can be run under Windows 95, Window SE, etc. 4) Micorsoft has refused to port VFP to the 64 bit world of Microsoft's forthcoming Windows OS for desktops and servers. VFP will run on the 64 bit Window OS, but in an emulation, rather than a native mode. 5) Although current Intel and ADM 64 bit processors are produced to handle applications compiled in 32 bit in emulation mode, over time, as more and more new computers replace older modules, the 32 bit emulation will likely be dropped in favor of optimized 64 bit hardware and software, which leads me to believe that VFP will run worse and worse with each new release of hardware and software, much like MSDos transitioned from 8 bit to 16 bit to 32 bit, etc, eveutually leading to VFP obsolescence. Regards, LelandJ Ed Leafe wrote: On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Matthew Jarvis wrote: Not that I really give a rats ass, but is there something wrong with my statement - especially since it's just my own opinion? There is no danger of Microsoft pulling the plug on VFP as a product; they did that nearly a decade ago. The problem with recommending VFP for new development, as I see it, are twofold: 1) Lock-in to Windows. If you even *think* you might need to run the app on a non-Microsoft OS at some point in its useful life, then VFP is not a good choice. 2) Lack of developers. Unless the company has a history and culture of VFP development, it will be difficult to find qualified developers. The numbers simply aren't there, and new blood is trickling in at best. This may be good for VFP consultants, but bad for the companies. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] ooops
Well, he sure wasn't going to the Dominican Republic packed with viagra to recruit students for his Center for Advanced Conservative Studies, that much I think we can infer. Interns, maybe... /sigh - Bob ! -Original Message- ! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan ! Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:11 PM ! To: ProFox Email List ! Subject: RE: [OT] ooops ! ! Looks like Palm Beach County is trying to harass him. ! ! --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ! ! Madigan, ! ! http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_177194808.html ! ! It was pretty stupid for Limbaugh to think that he could ! carry prescriptions ! around with someone else's name on them after his track record with ! prescription drugs. Other than stupidity, though, it ! doesn't seem like much ! else of import happened. ! ! -- Kris ! www.shamrocktrails.com ! ! ! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial
I was recently asked to write a guest editorial for the VFUG Newsletter, which I did. I lamented the fact that I was 99% out of VFP now and living in a Linux world, described the tools I use now, whined a lot, etc.. I had a section where I said I couldn't move our database front end (currently written in Access) to VFP because of various issues, one of which is quoted below. Some guy emails taking issue with one of my comments: Great idea having a guest editorial, but does anyone read it before it goes out ? I haven't got a problem that Matt has moved to Linux, but was somewhat disappointed that he includes the following in his editorial piece. (quote) And lastly, I can't in good conscience recommend that we go that direction (VFP) with the specter of MS pulling the plug on VFP as a product. It just wouldn't look too good for me to push VFP as a development environment (as much as I'd like to), spend months or years making the data front end better (and add all the features my users want), only to have MS yank VFP off the market. (endquote) Yuk, a lot of good work is being done to promote VFP, and this ancient comment in your editorial is disappointing. Not that I really give a rats ass, but is there something wrong with my statement - especially since it's just my own opinion? Well... we all know what they say about opinions bg. I think in the context of the audience you were writing the article for the statement(s) could be expected to generate some adverse comments. I think considering the history of Microsoft and for that matter all of the development tools we've been sold on the last few years, you could make a similar analogy. Nothing we write an application in TODAY may be relevant TOMORROW. There's no guarantee that if we write a front-end in .Net de jour, Java de jour or Python de jour that we won't have to re-write major portions due to changes and modifications in the languages. Based upon that I think your statement(s) was a little short sighted. The fact is: (A) it hasn't been yanked yet, (B) they haven't announced any upcoming yanking, (C) at least VFP has been pretty consistent on backward and forward compatibility. I don't know that we can say that about most other development environments. Finally in all the years we've heard the FoxPro is dead refrain, we've seen VB go away and all of Borland's tools disappear, along with many others. Jim Eddins ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial
VFP's future has not looked good for quite some time. I don't think Microsoft will discontinue it, but Microsoft seem to have cut VFP off from the vine; hence, with each new release by Microsoft's new Windows desktop and Server OS, VFP will become more and more obsolete. Here is the pattern: 1) Microsoft refused to extend VFP table capacity beyond its 2 gig limit, when Microsoft originally acquired VFP. 2) Microsoft dropped support of ODBC support for VFP, as of VFP 7, when it adopted its OLE DB driver. This occurred even though ODBC was faster than OLE DB and even though ODBC was the industrial standard used by all databases including DB2, MSSQL, Oracle, Informix, Sybase, MySQL, PostgreSQL, etc. There was absolute no need for the change; except, to make the driver connection to MSSQL proprietary. This caused much grief with the need to update VFP cleint server applications that connected to the database of TCP/IP; rather, than NETBIOS. 3) As of VFP9, it is no longer possible to develop apps in anything less than Window 2000 or Window XP, even though VFP application conpiled on these platforms can be run under Windows 95, Window SE, etc. 4) Micorsoft has refused to port VFP to the 64 bit world of Microsoft's forthcoming Windows OS for desktops and servers. VFP will run on the 64 bit Window OS, but in an emulation, rather than a native mode. 5) Although current Intel and ADM 64 bit processors are produced to handle applications compiled in 32 bit in emulation mode, over time, as more and more new computers replace older modules, the 32 bit emulation will likely be dropped in favor of optimized 64 bit hardware and software, which leads me to believe that VFP will run worse and worse with each new release of hardware and software, much like MSDos transitioned from 8 bit to 16 bit to 32 bit, etc, eveutually leading to VFP obsolescence. My comments on each point: (1) To me this is a non-issue. If your database(s) are going to exceed that limit you should be using something other than dbf's anyway. (2) ODBC still works on later versions for me. (3) If the finished product runs on earlier platforms, great. Why would you want to develop on the old technology? (4) and (5) It will be a long time before software catches up to hardware in this respect, we're talking years here. I just installed 32bit Linux on a 64bit server because the Linux application they needed the server for would not work with 64bit Linux and according to the application developers they don't know when or if they ever will port their application to 64bit. Jim Eddins ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Bonfire of the Vanities
http://tinyurl.com/txgz - - - ROLL CALL's Mary Ann Akers: Although Clinton, a close adviser of Reid's, was ultimately invited to attend the news conference, she was not told about the event until just hours before it began Tuesday. While the noon event was hastily arranged - planning for it only began Monday night - a Clinton aide was apparently so furious that the Senator seemed to be left out of the loop that she bawled out (reamed out was how one source put it) a spokeswoman for Reid near the entrance to the Senate Radio-Television Gallery. The Clinton aide, Laurie Rubiner, was overheard saying to Reid spokeswoman Rebecca Kirszner, You suck and How could you do this? - - - - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Bonfire of the Vanities
I love it when they canabalize each other. --- Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/txgz - - - ROLL CALL's Mary Ann Akers: Although Clinton, a close adviser of Reid's, was ultimately invited to attend the news conference, she was not told about the event until just hours before it began Tuesday. While the noon event was hastily arranged - planning for it only began Monday night - a Clinton aide was apparently so furious that the Senator seemed to be left out of the loop that she bawled out (reamed out was how one source put it) a spokeswoman for Reid near the entrance to the Senate Radio-Television Gallery. The Clinton aide, Laurie Rubiner, was overheard saying to Reid spokeswoman Rebecca Kirszner, You suck and How could you do this? - - - - Bob [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial
On 6/28/06, Profox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed 32bit Linux on a 64bit server because the Linux application they needed the server for would not work with 64bit Linux and according to the application developers they don't know when or if they ever will port their application to 64bit. Out of curiosity, which one? I know a couple of guys at the LUG working with 64-bit Linux and they've got a lot of stuff ported. But just having the source doesn't mean it will all work. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial
I think both sides have a fair point. I surely don't think you were out of line at all. 1. VFP is the best development environment I've ever used and is very efficient for developing software 2. You always run the risk that some know-it-all will make you look bad for using it or some customer will pull the plug on a development effort because they know best. 3. I think you'll always be able to get support either from Microsoft or from a user group, so I don't think that's a concern at all. 4. I still have a major installation still running in FPW 2.5 without many problems or needs for work-arounds, so I suspect a vfp program will run for 13 years too. 5. Running it on Linux is a problem, but how much of a problem is that? do you see a major migration to Linux other than file and web servers? I don't. New Lower Prices * Horse Racing Photos at http://www.HorseRacingPix.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial
I just installed 32bit Linux on a 64bit server because the Linux application they needed the server for would not work with 64bit Linux and according to the application developers they don't know when or if they ever will port their application to 64bit. Out of curiosity, which one? I know a couple of guys at the LUG working with 64-bit Linux and they've got a lot of stuff ported. But just having the source doesn't mean it will all work. I'm not sure of the name of their application, but it involved Asterisk. Jim Eddins ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] These are the scum that voted to burn flags
Stephen the Cook wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm ?congress=109session=2vote=00189#position First freedom of speech/action next it will be your GUNS. What's a constitution for anyway when we have to fix it all the time lately. Hi Stephen! Odd issue. When a flag is worn out - you are *supposed* to burn it. I guess it is serving as a distraction from, say, fixing health care for example. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] XP Hibernation Freezes
Download system mechanic's free 30-day trial software and run the complete suite of cleanups. http://www.iolo.com I've seen this before. It sounds like your hibernation file (I forget what that's called) may be a little messed up, or your disk needs defragging or cleanup. this software will do just about everything to clean up your computer. --- Pablo Rivera Sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check BIOS setting for the power and shutdown properties. If that doesn't fix it, and the computer is oold, replace the battery. Those are my thoughts on that. HTH PabloSr In a learning adventure -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] XP Hibernation Freezes On my Compaq Desktop running XP Professional, for the last month: After idling a few hours, machine goes into Hibernation Machine then locks, need to Power Off to get out Power Settings: Power Scheme [Home/Office] Turn off Monitor [Never] Turn off Hard Disk [Never] System Standby [Never] Enable Hibernate [unchecked] After the cold boot: Power Scheme is [Always on]! What do you folks suggest? Thank you. -- Charles -- Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://oz.uc.edu/~enzerch [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
