date:20060628

I wonder where they got the chemical warhead.  Hm maybe Iraq?

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-06-29T013909Z_01_L29258645_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-ROCKET.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

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[OT] I'm watching Leonardo DiCaprio on Oprah now, what a dimwit

I'm watching Leonardo DiCaprio on Oprah now, what a dimwit.  He's talking about 
Global Warming. 
This guy didn't finish high school and he's an expert on global warming.  Like 
he doesn't fly in
private jet and drive in a limo.  Give me a break.  Junk science.

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RE: [NF] XP Hibernation Freezes

2006-06-28 Thread Kristyne McDaniel

> On my Compaq Desktop running XP Professional, for the last month:
> 
>  After idling a few hours, machine goes into Hibernation
>  Machine then locks, need to Power Off to get out

FWIW, I've seen too many Hibernation freezes. I don't allow any of my
machines to hibernate anymore.

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RE: [NF] XP Hibernation Freezes

Download system mechanic's free 30-day trial software and run the complete 
suite of cleanups.

http://www.iolo.com

I've seen this before.

It sounds like your hibernation file (I forget what that's called) may be a 
little messed up, or
your disk needs defragging or cleanup.  this software will do just about 
everything to clean up
your computer.

--- Pablo Rivera Sr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Check BIOS setting for the power and shutdown properties. 
> If that doesn't fix it, and the computer is oold, replace the battery.
> Those are my thoughts on that.  HTH
> 
> 
> 
> PabloSr
> In a learning adventure
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [NF] XP Hibernation Freezes
> 
> On my Compaq Desktop running XP Professional, for the last month:
> 
>  After idling a few hours, machine goes into Hibernation
>  Machine then locks, need to Power Off to get out
> 
> Power Settings:
> 
>  Power Scheme [Home/Office]
>  Turn off Monitor [Never]
>  Turn off Hard Disk [Never]
>  System Standby [Never]
> 
>  Enable Hibernate [unchecked]
> 
> After the cold boot:
> 
>  Power Scheme is [Always on]!
> 
> What do you folks suggest?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> --  Charles --
> Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Website: http://oz.uc.edu/~enzerch 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [NF] XP Hibernation Freezes

2006-06-28 Thread Pablo Rivera Sr


Check BIOS setting for the power and shutdown properties. 
If that doesn't fix it, and the computer is oold, replace the battery.
Those are my thoughts on that.  HTH



PabloSr
In a learning adventure

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [NF] XP Hibernation Freezes

On my Compaq Desktop running XP Professional, for the last month:

 After idling a few hours, machine goes into Hibernation
 Machine then locks, need to Power Off to get out

Power Settings:

 Power Scheme [Home/Office]
 Turn off Monitor [Never]
 Turn off Hard Disk [Never]
 System Standby [Never]

 Enable Hibernate [unchecked]

After the cold boot:

 Power Scheme is [Always on]!

What do you folks suggest?

Thank you.


--  Charles --
Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: http://oz.uc.edu/~enzerch 




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Re: [OT] These are the scum that voted to burn flags

2006-06-28 Thread petetheisen


Stephen the Cook wrote:

Michael Madigan <> wrote:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm
?congress=109&session=2&vote=00189#position

First freedom of speech/action next it will be your GUNS.  


What's a constitution for anyway when we have to fix it all the time lately.


Hi Stephen!

Odd issue. When a flag is worn out - you are *supposed* to burn it. I 
guess it is serving as a distraction from, say, fixing health care for 
example.


Regards,

Pete


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[NF] XP Hibernation Freezes

2006-06-28 Thread Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.


On my Compaq Desktop running XP Professional, for the last month:

After idling a few hours, machine goes into Hibernation
Machine then locks, need to Power Off to get out

Power Settings:

Power Scheme [Home/Office]
Turn off Monitor [Never]
Turn off Hard Disk [Never]
System Standby [Never]

Enable Hibernate [unchecked]

After the cold boot:

Power Scheme is [Always on]!

What do you folks suggest?

Thank you.


--  Charles --
Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: http://oz.uc.edu/~enzerch 




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Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial


I just installed 32bit Linux on a 64bit server because the Linux
application they needed the server for would not work with
64bit Linux and according to the application developers they
don't know when or if they ever will port their application to 64bit.



Out of curiosity, which one?

I know a couple of guys at the LUG working with 64-bit Linux and
they've got a lot of stuff ported. But just having the source doesn't
mean it will all work.


I'm not sure of the name of their application, but it involved
Asterisk.

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Re: [NF] WinFS is dead?, Part 2

2006-06-28 Thread Man-wai CHANG


XFS... XFS ... :)

--
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 / v \   May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.6.17.1
/( _ )\  (Ubuntu 6.06)  11:02:01 up 20:55 0 users
  ^ ^load average: 1.08 1.08 1.03
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Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial

I think both sides have a fair point.  I surely don't think you were out of 
line at all.

1.  VFP is the best development environment I've ever used and is very 
efficient for developing
software

2.  You always run the risk that some know-it-all will make you look bad for 
using it or some
customer will pull the plug on a development effort because they know best.

3.  I think you'll always be able to get support either from Microsoft or from 
a user group, so I
don't think that's a concern at all.

4.  I still have a major installation still running in FPW 2.5 without many 
problems or needs for
work-arounds, so I suspect a vfp program will run for 13 years too.

5.  Running it on Linux is a problem, but how much of a problem is that?  do 
you see a major
migration to Linux other than file and web servers?  I don't.



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Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial


On 6/28/06, Matthew Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Not that I really give a rats ass, but is there something wrong with my
statement - especially since it's just my own opinion?



I don't think so. VFUG doesn't go out of its way to avoid the issue,
and I don't think you should, either. You're entitled to your opinion.

Some people seem to feel that "we" FoxPro developers are embattled and
ought to join together to fight off the forces of evil. Others think
that FoxPro is one of many (great!) development tools we can use to
deliver solutions to our customers; all the tools have good and bad
aspects; all the tools have lifecycles.

--
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Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial


On 6/28/06, Profox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I just installed 32bit Linux on a 64bit server because the Linux
application they needed the server for would not work with
64bit Linux and according to the application developers they
don't know when or if they ever will port their application to 64bit.



Out of curiosity, which one?

I know a couple of guys at the LUG working with 64-bit Linux and
they've got a lot of stuff ported. But just having the source doesn't
mean it will all work.

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RE: [OT] ooops

2006-06-28 Thread Kristyne McDaniel

Madigan,

> Looks like Palm Beach County is trying to harass him.

Only if you think like he does. He's got a plea deal for doctor shopping
where he has to keep his nose clean for 18 months. Of COURSE they are going
to watch him. It is their job.

Or are you trying to say that convicted criminals should get even a bigger
break than a plea deal that wipes out their criminal record in 18 months if
they are right of center politically?

Hmmm...

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Re: [OT] Bonfire of the Vanities

I love it when they canabalize each other.

--- Bob Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/txgz
>  
> - - -
>  ROLL CALL's Mary Ann Akers: Although Clinton, a close adviser of
> Reid's, was ultimately invited to attend the news conference, she was
> not told about the event until just hours before it began Tuesday.
> 
> While the noon event was hastily arranged - planning for it only began
> Monday night - a Clinton aide was apparently so furious that the
> Senator seemed to be left out of the loop that she bawled out ("reamed
> out" was how one source put it) a spokeswoman for Reid near the
> entrance to the Senate Radio-Television Gallery.
> 
> The Clinton aide, Laurie Rubiner, was overheard saying to Reid
> spokeswoman Rebecca Kirszner, "You suck" and "How could you do this?" 
> - - -
>  
> - Bob
> 
> 
> 
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[OT] Bonfire of the Vanities

2006-06-28 Thread Bob Calco

http://tinyurl.com/txgz
 
- - -
 ROLL CALL's Mary Ann Akers: Although Clinton, a close adviser of
Reid's, was ultimately invited to attend the news conference, she was
not told about the event until just hours before it began Tuesday.

While the noon event was hastily arranged - planning for it only began
Monday night - a Clinton aide was apparently so furious that the
Senator seemed to be left out of the loop that she bawled out ("reamed
out" was how one source put it) a spokeswoman for Reid near the
entrance to the Senate Radio-Television Gallery.

The Clinton aide, Laurie Rubiner, was overheard saying to Reid
spokeswoman Rebecca Kirszner, "You suck" and "How could you do this?" 
- - -
 
- Bob



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Re: Docking Toolbar in Top-Level Form

2006-06-28 Thread Bill Anderson


Profox wrote:

From: "Dave Crozier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Problem:
I'm trying to make a top level form in which a toolbar is dockable.


I just sold a VFP 9.0 to a newbie and was going to email him
some VFP sites to look at. One was www.foxite.com and on
the main page is a link to an article by Mike Feltman called:
"Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Docking in VFP".

The article link points to LAFox.org, (LA user group), but I
don't see the article there. Maybe Bill Anderson could point
the way. 
I don't have support files for Mike's excellent presentation on June 13, 
but I've copied him on this email and I'll let you know...


Bill Anderson


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Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial

VFP's future has not looked good for quite some time.  I don't think 
Microsoft will discontinue it, but Microsoft seem to have cut VFP off 
from the vine; hence, with each new release by Microsoft's new Windows 
desktop and Server OS, VFP will become more and more obsolete.  Here is 
the pattern:


1)  Microsoft refused to extend VFP table capacity beyond its 2 gig 
limit, when Microsoft originally acquired VFP.


2)  Microsoft dropped support of ODBC support for VFP, as of VFP 7, when 
it adopted its OLE DB driver.  This occurred even though ODBC was faster 
than OLE DB and even though ODBC was the industrial standard used by all 
databases including DB2, MSSQL, Oracle, Informix, Sybase, MySQL, 
PostgreSQL, etc.  There was absolute no need for the change; except, to 
make the driver connection to MSSQL proprietary.  This caused much grief 
with the need to update VFP cleint server applications that connected to 
the database of TCP/IP; rather, than NETBIOS.


3)  As of VFP9, it is no longer possible to develop apps in anything 
less than Window 2000 or Window XP, even though VFP application conpiled 
on these platforms can be run under Windows 95, Window SE, etc.


4)  Micorsoft has refused to port VFP to the 64 bit world of Microsoft's 
forthcoming Windows OS for desktops and servers.  VFP will run on the 64 
bit Window OS, but in an emulation, rather than a native mode.


5)  Although current Intel and ADM 64 bit processors are produced to 
handle applications compiled in 32 bit in emulation mode, over time, as 
more and more new computers replace older modules, the 32 bit emulation 
will likely be dropped in favor of optimized 64 bit hardware and 
software, which leads me to believe that VFP will run worse and worse 
with each new release of hardware and software, much like MSDos 
transitioned from 8 bit to 16 bit to 32 bit, etc, eveutually leading to 
VFP obsolescence.


My comments on each point:
(1) To me this is a non-issue. If your database(s) are going to exceed
that limit you should be using something other than dbf's anyway.
(2) ODBC still works on later versions for me.
(3) If the finished product runs on earlier platforms, great. Why
would you want to develop on the old technology?
(4) and (5) It will be a long time before software catches up to
hardware in this respect, we're talking years here.

I just installed 32bit Linux on a 64bit server because the Linux
application they needed the server for would not work with
64bit Linux and according to the application developers they
don't know when or if they ever will port their application to 64bit.

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Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial

I was recently asked to write a guest editorial for the VFUG Newsletter, 
which I did. I lamented the fact that I was 99% out of VFP now and living 
in a Linux world, described the tools I use now, whined a lot, etc..


I had a section where I said I couldn't move our database front end 
(currently written in Access) to VFP because of various issues, one of 
which is quoted below.


Some guy emails taking issue with one of my comments:

"Great idea having a guest editorial, but does anyone read it before it 
goes

out ?

I haven't got a problem that Matt has moved to Linux, but was somewhat
disappointed that he includes the following in his editorial piece.

(quote)

"And lastly, I can't in good conscience recommend that we go that 
direction (VFP)

with the specter of MS pulling the plug on VFP as a product.
It just wouldn't look too good for me to push VFP as a development
environment (as much as I'd like to), spend months or years making the 
data

front end better (and add all the features my users want), only to have MS
yank VFP off the market."  (endquote)

Yuk, a lot of good work is being done to promote VFP, and this ancient
comment in your editorial is disappointing."

Not that I really give a rats ass, but is there something wrong with my 
statement - especially since it's just my own opinion?


Well... we all know what they say about opinions .

I think in the context of the audience you were writing the article
for the statement(s) could be expected to generate some adverse
comments.

I think considering the history of Microsoft and for that matter all
of the development tools we've been sold on the last few years,
you could make a similar analogy. Nothing we write an application
in TODAY may be relevant TOMORROW.

There's no guarantee that if we write a front-end in .Net de jour,
Java de jour or Python de jour that we won't have to re-write
major portions due to changes and modifications in the languages.

Based upon that I think your statement(s) was a little short sighted.

The fact is: (A) it hasn't been yanked yet, (B) they haven't announced
any upcoming yanking, (C) at least VFP has been pretty consistent
on backward and forward compatibility. I don't know that we can
say that about most other development environments.

Finally in all the years we've heard the FoxPro is dead refrain, we've
seen VB go away and all of Borland's tools disappear, along with
many others.

Jim Eddins 





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RE: [OT] ooops

2006-06-28 Thread Bob Calco

Well, he sure wasn't going to the Dominican Republic packed with
viagra to recruit students for his Center for Advanced Conservative
Studies, that much I think we can infer.

Interns, maybe...



- Bob 

! -Original Message-
! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan
! Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:11 PM
! To: ProFox Email List
! Subject: RE: [OT] ooops
! 
! Looks like Palm Beach County is trying to harass him.
! 
! --- Kristyne McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
! 
! > Madigan,
! > 
! > > http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_177194808.html
! > 
! > It was pretty stupid for Limbaugh to think that he could 
! carry prescriptions
! > around with someone else's name on them after his track record
with
! > prescription drugs. Other than stupidity, though, it 
! doesn't seem like much
! > else of import happened.
! > 
! > -- Kris
! > www.shamrocktrails.com
! > 
! > 
! > 
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[OT] gmail for your domain

2006-06-28 Thread Ken McGinnis

This is a followup to a thread recently about having your domain MX records 
point to google's email.

I did that and today I got an invitation from google. I set it up for 5 of my 
domains and one of them is already working after only 
about 4 hours. It is great. They even offer a catch-all email address. As soon 
as the word gets out, google will be the dominate 
email provider (my words only)

I have domains registered at domainsite.com for about $8 per year each. I can 
point the MX records wherever, no charge. google 
catch-all email and up to 25 specific email addresses, no charge.

I have been using a gmail account for about 3 months and if this domain MX 
record thing is just as good, this has to be the best 
deal going. So I have 2 gigs of email for my own domain for about $8 per year. 
I have POP setup so I can download the email to 
outlook express and others to outlook 2003 so I really have unlimited email - 
all with google's great spam filter - best I have 
ever used.

I don't know who originally posted this, but that person did a great service 
for all of us.

Thanks 



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Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial

2006-06-28 Thread Leland Jackson

VFP's future has not looked good for quite some time.  I don't think 
Microsoft will discontinue it, but Microsoft seem to have cut VFP off 
from the vine; hence, with each new release by Microsoft's new Windows 
desktop and Server OS, VFP will become more and more obsolete.  Here is 
the pattern:


1)  Microsoft refused to extend VFP table capacity beyond its 2 gig 
limit, when Microsoft originally acquired VFP.


2)  Microsoft dropped support of ODBC support for VFP, as of VFP 7, when 
it adopted its OLE DB driver.  This occurred even though ODBC was faster 
than OLE DB and even though ODBC was the industrial standard used by all 
databases including DB2, MSSQL, Oracle, Informix, Sybase, MySQL, 
PostgreSQL, etc.  There was absolute no need for the change; except, to 
make the driver connection to MSSQL proprietary.  This caused much grief 
with the need to update VFP cleint server applications that connected to 
the database of TCP/IP; rather, than NETBIOS.


3)  As of VFP9, it is no longer possible to develop apps in anything 
less than Window 2000 or Window XP, even though VFP application conpiled 
on these platforms can be run under Windows 95, Window SE, etc.


4)  Micorsoft has refused to port VFP to the 64 bit world of Microsoft's 
forthcoming Windows OS for desktops and servers.  VFP will run on the 64 
bit Window OS, but in an emulation, rather than a native mode.


5)  Although current Intel and ADM 64 bit processors are produced to 
handle applications compiled in 32 bit in emulation mode, over time, as 
more and more new computers replace older modules, the 32 bit emulation 
will likely be dropped in favor of optimized 64 bit hardware and 
software, which leads me to believe that VFP will run worse and worse 
with each new release of hardware and software, much like MSDos 
transitioned from 8 bit to 16 bit to 32 bit, etc, eveutually leading to 
VFP obsolescence.


Regards,

LelandJ

Ed Leafe wrote:


On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Matthew Jarvis wrote:

Not that I really give a rats ass, but is there something wrong  with 
my statement - especially since it's just my own opinion?



There is no danger of Microsoft pulling the plug on VFP as a  
product; they did that nearly a decade ago. The problem with  
recommending VFP for new development, as I see it, are twofold:


1) Lock-in to Windows. If you even *think* you might need to run the  
app on a non-Microsoft OS at some point in its useful life, then VFP  
is not a good choice.


2) Lack of developers. Unless the company has a history and culture  
of VFP development, it will be difficult to find qualified  
developers. The numbers simply aren't there, and new blood is  
trickling in at best. This may be good for VFP consultants, but bad  
for the companies.


-- Ed Leafe
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-- http://dabodev.com






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RE: Comments on my VFUG Editorial

2006-06-28 Thread Stephen the Cook

Ed Leafe <> wrote:

>   VFP isn't going to stop working, even after Microsoft stops
> supporting it in 2015. Apps written a decade ago will still work a
> decade from now. That's not the point, though. The point is whether
> it is wise to recommend *new* development be done in VFP in companies
> that are not already full of VFP developers. As a consultant, I
> haven't been able to recommend that for years now. 

Well said.

Stephen Russell
DBA / Operations Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/

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Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial

2006-06-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


This is a sad day for me. :(

Original Message:
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From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The point is whether it is wise to recommend *new* development be done in
VFP in companies that are not already full of VFP developers. As a
consultant, I haven't been able to recommend that for years now.



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Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial

2006-06-28 Thread Ed Leafe


On Jun 28, 2006, at 3:12 PM, David Crooks wrote:


Right, VFP9 is just an illusion and the fact that MSFT will support it
until 2015 is a lie.


	That's irrelevant from the POV of a company. There was nothing wrong  
with VFP 7 or 8, so releasing 9 doesn't suddenly make it a viable  
product. And Microsoft's "support" also means squat. How many times  
has Microsoft saved the day by "supporting" VFP?


	Microsoft stopped promoting VFP as a solution years ago, and the  
fact that such a powerful tool is virtually unknown outside of our  
community is a direct result of that. I've spoken to Microsoft reps  
as far back as 2000 who didn't know that they still owned VFP, much  
less still sold it. I doubt you could find a single rep who wouldn't  
be able to answer that about Visual Studio or Word.


	VFP isn't going to stop working, even after Microsoft stops  
supporting it in 2015. Apps written a decade ago will still work a  
decade from now. That's not the point, though. The point is whether  
it is wise to recommend *new* development be done in VFP in companies  
that are not already full of VFP developers. As a consultant, I  
haven't been able to recommend that for years now.


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Looks like Palm Beach County is trying to harass him.

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> Madigan,
> 
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> 
> It was pretty stupid for Limbaugh to think that he could carry prescriptions
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> prescription drugs. Other than stupidity, though, it doesn't seem like much
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RE: Comments on my VFUG Editorial

2006-06-28 Thread David Crooks

On Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:04 PM Ed Leafe wrote:

>   There is no danger of Microsoft pulling the plug on VFP as a
product; they did that >nearly a decade ago. The problem with
recommending VFP for new development, as I see it, >are twofold:

>1) Lock-in to Windows. If you even *think* you might need to run the
app on a non-
>Microsoft OS at some point in its useful life, then VFP is not a good
choice.

>2) Lack of developers. Unless the company has a history and culture of
VFP development, >it will be difficult to find qualified developers. The
numbers simply aren't there, and >new blood is trickling in at best.
This may be good for VFP consultants, but bad for the >companies.

Right, VFP9 is just an illusion and the fact that MSFT will support it
until 2015 is a lie.  I do agree with you on the developer front as
there always seem to be many newbies at the conferences every year.

VFP ain't dead yet!  8-)

David L. Crooks

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Re: Comments on my VFUG Editorial

2006-06-28 Thread Ed Leafe


On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Matthew Jarvis wrote:

Not that I really give a rats ass, but is there something wrong  
with my statement - especially since it's just my own opinion?


	There is no danger of Microsoft pulling the plug on VFP as a  
product; they did that nearly a decade ago. The problem with  
recommending VFP for new development, as I see it, are twofold:


1) Lock-in to Windows. If you even *think* you might need to run the  
app on a non-Microsoft OS at some point in its useful life, then VFP  
is not a good choice.


2) Lack of developers. Unless the company has a history and culture  
of VFP development, it will be difficult to find qualified  
developers. The numbers simply aren't there, and new blood is  
trickling in at best. This may be good for VFP consultants, but bad  
for the companies.


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RE: [NF] Need Microsoft Echange Server guru

2006-06-28 Thread Nick C

Vince, like everyone else I wouldn't say guru, not sure that exists outside of 
M$, but I have learnt to solve all of our own deeply
ingrained Exchange 2003 problems.  If you would care to give more detail I will 
at least have a think about it and see if it is
within my sphere of expertise.

All the best Nick C (UK)

 >-Original Message-
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 >Sent: 28 June 2006 15:33
 >To: Profox
 >Subject: [NF] Need Microsoft Echange Server guru
 >
 >I just received the following email from one of my oldest clients:
 >
 >"I need to contact a Microsoft Echange Server guru -
 >John's having an issue that's messing up our e-mail -
 >talked to 6 MS techies - all diiferent responses -
 >
 >believe it is Echange Server 2003 -
 >the only blasted thing we are using it for is contacts"
 >
 >I can vouch that this is a good guy, pretty reasonable to work with, and
 >would be willing to pay for assistance at a good rate.
 >Any takers, leads?  I can give you contact info off list.  Thanks.
 >
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Re: How To Know If an Internet Connection is Active

2006-06-28 Thread Jack Skelley


George:
Here is one more way to check...

LOCAL lnDst, lnHop, lnRTT
*
DECLARE INTEGER GetRTTAndHopCount IN Iphlpapi;
INTEGER DestIpAddress, ;
LONG @HopCount, ;
INTEGER MaxHops, ;
LONG @RTT
*
DECLARE INTEGER inet_addr IN ws2_32 STRING cp
*
lnDst = inet_addr("216.109.117.108") && Yahoo IP returns
lnHop = 0
lnRTT = 0
*
IF GetRTTAndHopCount(lnDst, @lnHop, 50, @lnRTT) = 0
*You are NOT currently connected to the internet
CLEAR DLLS GetRTTAndHopCount, inet_addr
return .f.
ELSE
*You are connected to the internet
CLEAR DLLS GetRTTAndHopCount, inet_addr
return .t.
ENDIF

Regards,

Jack Skelley



G Gambill wrote:
How can I determine if an Internet Connection is active for PostCast 
Server.


I thought about

oIE = createobject( 'internetexplorer.application')
oIE.Navigate2( "http://www.yahoo.com"; )


but can't figure out how to programatically test if that was successful.

TIA

George


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Comments on my VFUG Editorial

2006-06-28 Thread Matthew Jarvis

I was recently asked to write a guest editorial for the VFUG Newsletter, 
which I did. I lamented the fact that I was 99% out of VFP now and 
living in a Linux world, described the tools I use now, whined a lot, etc..


I had a section where I said I couldn't move our database front end 
(currently written in Access) to VFP because of various issues, one of 
which is quoted below.


Some guy emails taking issue with one of my comments:


"Great idea having a guest editorial, but does anyone read it before it goes
out ?

I haven't got a problem that Matt has moved to Linux, but was somewhat
disappointed that he includes the following in his editorial piece.

(quote)

"And lastly, I can't in good conscience recommend that we go that 
direction (VFP)

with the specter of MS pulling the plug on VFP as a product.
It just wouldn't look too good for me to push VFP as a development
environment (as much as I'd like to), spend months or years making the data
front end better (and add all the features my users want), only to have MS
yank VFP off the market."  (endquote)

Yuk, a lot of good work is being done to promote VFP, and this ancient
comment in your editorial is disappointing."


Not that I really give a rats ass, but is there something wrong with my 
statement - especially since it's just my own opinion?


Matthew S. Jarvis
IT Manager
Bike Friday - "Performance that Packs."
www.bikefriday.com
541/687-0487 x140
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: How To Know If an Internet Connection is Active

2006-06-28 Thread Jaime Vasquez



G Gambill wrote:
How can I determine if an Internet Connection is active for PostCast 
Server.


I thought about

oIE = createobject( 'internetexplorer.application')
oIE.Navigate2( "http://www.yahoo.com"; )


but can't figure out how to programatically test if that was successful.

TIA

George



Hi George:

Declare Integer InternetCheckConnection in Wininet.dll String Url, Long 
Flags, Long Reserved


lnResult = InternetCheckConnection("http://leafe.com/",1,0)


If lnResult != 0
Msg = "Connected!"
Else
Msg = "Not connected!"
EndIf


MessageBox(msg)




HTH


Jaime Vasquez
Guatemala, C.A.


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Re: Docking Toolbar in Top-Level Form


I just sold a VFP 9.0 to a newbie and was going to email him
some VFP sites to look at. One was www.foxite.com and on
the main page is a link to an article by Mike Feltman called:
"Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Docking in VFP".

The article link points to LAFox.org, (LA user group), but I
don't see the article there. Maybe Bill Anderson could point
the way.

Jim Eddins



I just looked at foxite.com and didn't see the link you refer to, but at
http://f1technologies.blogspot.com/ Mike has a blog entry titled "Taming
Dockable Toolbars".

Regards,
Jim


The link I referred to on www.foxite.com is under the "Latest Community
News" section. I just re-checked and it's still there.

Jim Eddins



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RE: [NF] WinFS is dead?, Part 2

2006-06-28 Thread Hal Kaplan

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ted Roche
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 13:28
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] WinFS is dead?, Part 2

On 6/28/06, Rodney Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/winfs/archive/2006/06/26/648075.aspx
>

Question #1:

'Is WinFS dead?
Yes and No."

Well, thanks for clearing that up.

Whatever WinFS may have been, and that would depend which sources you
were listeningt to, is not shipping as a feature in any OS they are
willing to commit to, except maybe Cairo.

What was WinFS supposed to be anyway? A search engine to kill Google
Desktop, WIndows Desktop Search (formerly Apple Spotlight) or a new way
to add metatags onto any object within the filesystem? Did anyone here
have plans to use it? Killer apps to take advantage of it?
-- 

Ted Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com

===

Good questions, Ted.  The answers are Yes and No, depending on who you
talk to.  I think if M$ knew the answers, we would be that much closer
to having WinFS in our hands.

HALinNY
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Re: How To Know If an Internet Connection is Active

2006-06-28 Thread Ken McGinnis

Here is some code I use: (I made some changes for obvious reasons and I have 
not checked this code)


lcURL = "http://www.yahoo.com";

Local ;
   lodoc, ;
   lcText, ;
   loie, ;
   llResult

llResult = .T.
Try
   loie = Createobject("internetexplorer.Application")
Catch To oException
   llResult = .F.
   If Vartype(oException)='O' And ssidebug
  With oException
 ssiMessageBox ( ;
'Error '+Transform(.ErrorNo)+Chr(13)+ ;
'   '+.Message+Chr(13)+ ;
'   '+.LineContents+Chr(13)+ ;
'   '+.Procedure )
  Endwith
   Endif
Endtry
If !llResult Or !Vartype(loie) = "O"
   ssiMessagebox("There is a problem with your Internet connection"+Chr(13)+ ;
  "If you are able to access the xxx main web site"+Chr(13)+ ;
  "Please report this to xxx")
   Return .F.
Endif

*loie.Visible = .T.
loie.Navigate(lcURL)
Inkey(.3)  && need a small delay to setup the display.
Do While loie.Busy()
   DoEvents
   Inkey(.1)
Enddo
lodoc = loie.Document
lcText = lodoc.documentElement.innerText

* now you can look in lcText to see if it has what you expect from 
that web site


- Original Message - 
From: "G Gambill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:26 AM
Subject: How To Know If an Internet Connection is Active


How can I determine if an Internet Connection is active for PostCast Server.

I thought about

oIE = createobject( 'internetexplorer.application')
oIE.Navigate2( "http://www.yahoo.com"; )


but can't figure out how to programatically test if that was successful.

TIA

George


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Re: [NF] Beefing up a Mac to emulate 'you know'

2006-06-28 Thread Derek Kalweit


I have a Windows 2000 Terminal Server in my office, so when I need to
work with Fox, I run Remote Desktop Client on my Mac, and it's as
good as being a Windows machine.


Well, except that you're limited to 256 colors, no sound, and had to
buy an expensive Windows 2000 Server license. These days, I'd suggest
a Windows XP Pro install with remote desktop turned on and using a
Remote Desktop Client with high color and audio capabilities, etc.
Purely on features and cost-- not on EULA or privacy concerns...


--
Derek


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RE: Docking Toolbar in Top-Level Form

Having solved the problem I have to retract my previous statement:

"Having investigated the problem further and unless anyone can prove me
wrong, there is no way of having a visually designed Form with a visually
designed toolbar which is docked in the aforesaid form and to run it in
development mode to see the final result i.e the toolbar DOCKED IN the
form."

OR at lease modify it, in that the problem of the toolbar docking in the
main VFP window was caused by having the Debugger active. I guess that the
Debugger this must obviously reset the TopForm to the main VFP and
consequently the toolbar goes and docks itself with the main Window.

Removing my breakpoint cured the error instantly. One to remember for the
future. Anyhow, thanks to all for their input.

Dave Crozier

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To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Docking Toolbar in Top-Level Form

And for a quick tip on docking from Mike, check his blog entry of June 16

Profox wrote:
> From: "Dave Crozier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Problem:
>> I'm trying to make a top level form in which a toolbar is dockable.
>
> I just sold a VFP 9.0 to a newbie and was going to email him
> some VFP sites to look at. One was www.foxite.com and on
> the main page is a link to an article by Mike Feltman called:
> "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Docking in VFP".
>
> The article link points to LAFox.org, (LA user group), but I
> don't see the article there. Maybe Bill Anderson could point
> the way.
>
> Jim Eddins

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Re: [NF] WinFS is dead?, Part 2


On 6/28/06, Rodney Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://blogs.msdn.com/winfs/archive/2006/06/26/648075.aspx



Question #1:

'Is WinFS dead?
Yes and No."

Well, thanks for clearing that up.

Whatever WinFS may have been, and that would depend which sources you
were listeningt to, is not shipping as a feature in any OS they are
willing to commit to, except maybe Cairo.

What was WinFS supposed to be anyway? A search engine to kill Google
Desktop, WIndows Desktop Search (formerly Apple Spotlight) or a new
way to add metatags onto any object within the filesystem? Did anyone
here have plans to use it? Killer apps to take advantage of it?
--
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Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com


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Re: [NF] Need Microsoft Echange Server guru


Vince,

I've been managing a small Exchange 2003 installation since last fall. I 
wouldn't put myself in the guru class though. Maybe you can post the 
specifics of the issue for comments from the peanut gallery?


Vince Teachout wrote:

I just received the following email from one of my oldest clients:

"I need to contact a Microsoft Echange Server guru -
John's having an issue that's messing up our e-mail -
talked to 6 MS techies - all diiferent responses -

believe it is Echange Server 2003 -
the only blasted thing we are using it for is contacts"



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RE: How To Know If an Internet Connection is Active

2006-06-28 Thread Tracy Pearson

oIE = createobject( 'internetexplorer.application')
oIE.Navigate2( "http://www.yahoo.com"; )
oIE.Document.Body.InnerHTML && should have something other than the 404
error

If you are shipping MSXML 3 for XMLtoCursor you'll have this available
   oHTTP = createobj("MSXML2.XMLHttp.3.0")
   oHTTP.Open("GET","http://www.yahoo.com";)
   TRY
  oHTTP.Send()
   CATCH
  oHTTP = .NULL.
   ENDTRY
   IF ISNULL(oHTTP)
  *-- Unable to connect to internet
   ENDIF

Tracy

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From: G Gambill
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:27 PM
Subject: How To Know If an Internet Connection is Active


How can I determine if an Internet Connection is active for PostCast Server.

I thought about

oIE = createobject( 'internetexplorer.application')
oIE.Navigate2( "http://www.yahoo.com"; )


but can't figure out how to programatically test if that was successful.

TIA

George






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Re: Docking Toolbar in Top-Level Form


And for a quick tip on docking from Mike, check his blog entry of June 16



Profox wrote:

From: "Dave Crozier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Problem:
I'm trying to make a top level form in which a toolbar is dockable.


I just sold a VFP 9.0 to a newbie and was going to email him
some VFP sites to look at. One was www.foxite.com and on
the main page is a link to an article by Mike Feltman called:
"Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Docking in VFP".

The article link points to LAFox.org, (LA user group), but I
don't see the article there. Maybe Bill Anderson could point
the way.

Jim Eddins


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RE: Docking Toolbar in Top-Level Form

2006-06-28 Thread Jim Winter

> 
> I just sold a VFP 9.0 to a newbie and was going to email him
> some VFP sites to look at. One was www.foxite.com and on
> the main page is a link to an article by Mike Feltman called:
> "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Docking in VFP".
> 
> The article link points to LAFox.org, (LA user group), but I
> don't see the article there. Maybe Bill Anderson could point
> the way.
> 
> Jim Eddins
> 

I just looked at foxite.com and didn't see the link you refer to, but at
http://f1technologies.blogspot.com/ Mike has a blog entry titled "Taming
Dockable Toolbars".

Regards,
Jim



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Re: VFP7: DSN programatically

What I did is based on a class written by Mark McCasland, which also has 
a dependency on something written by Rick Strahl for reading/writing the 
registry. At the time, I needed to create a DSN for my app to use and 
had been doing it manually at each user's desktop. I was able to take 
Mark's code and customize it to test for the existence of the DSN and 
create it if it wasn't there. It's driven by storing the DSN parms in a 
VFP table. Anyway, what I did is pretty specific to my situation but 
could be fairly simply adapted to what you want.


OTOH anyone who has the chops to rewrite Lotus Organizer in VFP probably 
doesn't need to see something as specific as what I've done.   So 
I've sent you the stuff that I pinched from Mark off list. He's done a 
nice job of documenting it and shows a number of examples. If you still 
want to discuss my specific implementation after you've looked at his 
stuff, I'll be happy to do so.


David Crooks wrote:

I do appreciate it!
  


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How To Know If an Internet Connection is Active

2006-06-28 Thread G Gambill


How can I determine if an Internet Connection is active for PostCast Server.

I thought about

oIE = createobject( 'internetexplorer.application')
oIE.Navigate2( "http://www.yahoo.com"; )


but can't figure out how to programatically test if that was successful.

TIA

George


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[NF] WinFS is dead?, Part 2

2006-06-28 Thread Rodney Dixon

http://blogs.msdn.com/winfs/archive/2006/06/26/648075.aspx

 

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[NF] WinFS is dead?, Part 2

2006-06-28 Thread Rodney Dixon

http://blogs.msdn.com/winfs/archive/2006/06/26/648075.aspx

 

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Re: Docking Toolbar in Top-Level Form


From: "Dave Crozier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Problem:
I'm trying to make a top level form in which a toolbar is dockable.


I just sold a VFP 9.0 to a newbie and was going to email him
some VFP sites to look at. One was www.foxite.com and on
the main page is a link to an article by Mike Feltman called:
"Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Docking in VFP".

The article link points to LAFox.org, (LA user group), but I
don't see the article there. Maybe Bill Anderson could point
the way.

Jim Eddins



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Re: Forcing Combo Box opening Upwards


Dave Crozier wrote:

Peter,
95% of the time VFP gets it correct but just occasionally it displays the
dropdown combo OFF the screen and it is a real pain to move the window
upwards so you can select an entry!
  
This might sound a bit silly but you could move the control upwards a 
bit just before it displays the list, then after it loses the focus move 
it back.


Just an idea.

Peter



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RE: VFP7: DSN programatically

2006-06-28 Thread David Crooks

On Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:00 PM Richard Kaye wrote:

>I've got something I can send you. Let me look it over so I can explain
it... 

I do appreciate it!

David L. Crooks



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Re: [NF] WebProNews: Executive Summary of AJAX

>JavaScript has nothing to do with Java.
>-- Ed Leafe

I know.
js is also supposed to run in a restricted state or 'sandbox' - with no
access to the local file system.

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RE: Forcing Combo Box opening Upwards

Peter,
95% of the time VFP gets it correct but just occasionally it displays the
dropdown combo OFF the screen and it is a real pain to move the window
upwards so you can select an entry!

Dave Crozier
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things, while computer programmers are smart people with the ability to do
incredibly stupid things. They are, in short, a perfect match"  - Bill
Bryson

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Sent: 28 June 2006 17:11
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Subject: Re: Forcing Combo Box opening Upwards

Dave Crozier wrote:
> Does anyone know a way of forcing a combobox to open in the upwards 
> direction as opposed to the default downwards direction?
>
> VFP seems to decide itself whether the list is too large to open in 
> the default downwards direction depending on the amount of window 
> space available below the combobox but I want to force the box in an 
> upwards direction.
>
> Any Ideas?
>   
Hi Dave,

Can't see any way to control this.  The combo seems to drop down even below
the edge of the current app if it can, but will go upwards if it means it
will go over the taskbar.
Maybe there is a custom control available to do this?

Peter

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RE: [NF] WebProNews: Executive Summary of AJAX

>well I have got a cut down example to sort of work

... in IE

Firefox shows an 'uncaught exception' in the js console, and writes
nothing.

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Re: Forcing Combo Box opening Upwards


Dave Crozier wrote:

Does anyone know a way of forcing a combobox to open in the upwards
direction as opposed to the default downwards direction? 


VFP seems to decide itself whether the list is too large to open in the
default downwards direction depending on the amount of window space
available below the combobox but I want to force the box in an upwards
direction. 


Any Ideas?
  

Hi Dave,

Can't see any way to control this.  The combo seems to drop down even 
below the edge of the current app if it can, but will go upwards if it 
means it will go over the taskbar.

Maybe there is a custom control available to do this?

Peter



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Re: ActiveX errors.


On 6/28/06, Alan Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


That woudl work great assuming the custom class error event grabs any
error before the form error method does. Which I presume it will. Thanks
Tracy!


And that TRY... CATCH works in VFP6. Wasn't it a later add-on?

ActiveX errors are 1426 through 1429, iirc.

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Re: [NF] WebProNews: Executive Summary of AJAX

2006-06-28 Thread Ed Leafe


On Jun 28, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Andy Davies wrote:


execCommand-SaveAs is still against the spirit of the js sandbox


	It is Java that is supposed to come with a 'sandbox' that wouldn't  
allow such actions; JavaScript has nothing to do with Java.


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RE: [NF] WebProNews: Executive Summary of AJAX

>>Most web pages just demonstrate that you cannot access the
>>local file system without getting permission by the user.
>>--
>>Christof

>that was what I found as well, and I couldn't even get that to work

well I have got a cut down example to sort of work (I said my js is a bit
rusty):-
(<> changed to [] to fool the net nanny)

[HTML]
[BODY]
[H1 unselectable="on"]Writing text to a local file[/H1]
[script language="javascript"]
function Writxt()
{
document.execCommand('SaveAs',false,'C:\\TEMP\\jsjsjs.txt')
}
[/script]
[P unselectable="on"]Click the button to turn the text into a file.
   By default the text will be written to C:\TEMP\jsjsjs.txt[/P]
[P style="color=#3366CC"]The quick brown Fox jumps over the lazy dog![/P]

[BUTTON onclick="Writxt()" unselectable="on"]Click to write file[/BUTTON]
[/BODY]
[/HTML]

and yes, you are prompted before the file is written, but imho
execCommand-SaveAs is still against the spirit of the js sandbox and should
never have been released.

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Re: VFP7: DSN programatically

I've got something I can send you. Let me look it over so I can explain 
it... 


David Crooks wrote:

On Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:09 PM Chet Gardiner wrote:
  
I guess you missed the part about 'programmatically'! 



  


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Forcing Combo Box opening Upwards

Does anyone know a way of forcing a combobox to open in the upwards
direction as opposed to the default downwards direction? 

VFP seems to decide itself whether the list is too large to open in the
default downwards direction depending on the amount of window space
available below the combobox but I want to force the box in an upwards
direction. 

Any Ideas?
 
Dave Crozier
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things, while computer programmers are smart people with the ability to do
incredibly stupid things. They are, in short, a perfect match"  - Bill
Bryson
 

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Re: [NF] Gartner mailing I received


On 6/27/06, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I like the magazine ads that read:

"Microsoft SQL Servers provide us with a 99.98% uptime*"

then you read the 2pt font footnote and it says "Results not typical"

Jason



Ha! What a perfect response that counter-ad would make! I love it!

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Re: App Data generation


On 6/28/06, Tristan Leask <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Just pondering about something.

How do you guys sort the data out for a new application installation?
Do you generate it from within your program using the data layer to
build up whatever files are required therefore the same generation code
can be used for DBF/MySQL/MSSQL/yada...?



Are you talking about the data itself, or the data structures/metadata?

I use xCase for data design, and it generates create scripts (like
GenDBC scripts). When I make a change, it generates an update script.
We can pass those around, run them as part of an update process and
store them in source code control to track changes.

The way to "do it right" is to store a free table that has a version
number and a script to move from the previous version to the current
one. Store a version number inside the database. Compare the two and
run the scripts to upgrade from old to new.

Most of my apps are custom and installed in a few sites, so we manage
the process manually. The shoemaker's children and all that.


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Re: [NF] AD Printer madness

Depending on the size of your AD and the number of DCs you have, it can 
take a little time to replicate.


Tristan Leask wrote:

PMSL!

Damn thing just decided to start working now!

Shesh!  I must remember to bill MS for wasting my time 

Tristan

"Windows cannot connect to the printer. Either the printer name was
typed incorrectly or the specified printer has lost its connection to
the server."

Now I know the printer is fine, because if I add it via the share name
instead of using the AD, it installs okay and prints fine.
  


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Re: [NF] -- Windows Genuine program revised following uproar


On 6/28/06, Profox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Yesterday my PC alerted me to an update, which was
WGA and I killed it.



Oh, no, this time I'm sure they've got it right !

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Re: [OT] These are the scum that voted to burn flags

2006-06-28 Thread Leland Jackson

Protect the flag, but desecrate our constitutional liberty; I don't thnk so!

#---

Protect the flag; desecrate liberty
Thank you, Dianne Feinstein.

Composition teachers all over the country are indebted to the Democratic
senator from California for an editorial published Tuesday in USA Today.
Instead of tearing their hair out trying to instruct students in the
finer points of logic, rhetoric and critical thinking, teachers will
henceforth be able to simply pull out Feinstein's piece and say, ''Don't
do this.'' They will never find a better illustration of a bad argument
badly made.

Feinstein is co-sponsor of something called the Flag Protection
Amendment, the latest congressional effort to amend the Constitution to
protect the U.S. flag from ''desecration'' - an interesting word, given
its connotations of religious devotion.

Her editorial in support of the amendment certainly hits all the
patriotic sweet spots, invoking the image of Marines raising the flag on
Iwo Jima, reminding us that the flag is a symbol of ''our democracy, our
shared values, our commitment to justice, and our eternal memory of
those who have sacrificed to defend these principles.''

But there's more. Feinstein notes that Congress has power to protect the
Lincoln Memorial from defilement, so surely it should have similar power
to protect the flag, ''our monument in cloth.'' She denies the amendment
would infringe free speech, because, ''There is no idea or thought
expressed by the burning of the American flag that cannot be expressed
equally well in another manner.''

As arguments go, this one has it all - pathos, tears, drama. Everything
except actual, you know, logic.

The comparison to the Lincoln Memorial, for example, might make sense if
the flag were a single iconic structure housed on federal land instead
of a banner that shows up on fanny packs, T-shirts, used-car lots and
suburban mailboxes.

As for the idea that anyone who wants to express an idea by burning the
flag can express the same idea equally well through other means, that's
not her call. Who is she to tell me - or you, or anyone - what means we
may or may not use to express a political opinion? If someone loathes
their country and wants to express that opinion, who is she to decide
what words, methods or approach that person is allowed to use? If free
speech means anything, it means that she doesn't have that right.

Feinstein, by the way, is reacting to a crisis that does not exist. You
know how many flag ''desecrations'' there have been this year?
Twenty-five, you think? A dozen?

There've been three. This is according to the Citizens Flag Alliance, a
group that ''supports'' the proposed amendment. ''Three.''

More people were struck by lightning. Heck, I bet more people
spontaneously combusted. So essentially what we have here is an effort
to amend the Constitution and abridge the First Amendment in order to
stop people from doing what people aren't doing. Am I the only one who
finds this more than faintly ridiculous?

The rapper Chuck D, among others, calls them ''weapons of mass
distraction,'' these periodic outbursts of noise and inanity whereby our
leaders attempt to hijack the public's attention, direct it away from
anything that means anything. As the use of those weapons go, this one
feels especially cynical, playing as it does on love of country and
respect for the sacrifices of forebears.

But maybe we should love the one and respect the other enough to stand
up for real American ideals and demand that our representatives do the
same, rather than play games of symbolism that solve no problems,
address no issues and insult our collective intelligence in the process.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. ''And''
to the Republic for which it stands. But there's a big difference
between honoring the flag and fetishizing it, especially at the cost of
doing violence to the Constitution.

Apparently nobody cares if we desecrate that.

http://www.reporternews.com/abil/op_columns/article/0,1874,ABIL_7981_4799970,00.html

http://tinyurl.com/naums

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Re: [NF] -- Windows Genuine program revised following uproar



"Responding to pressure from irked Windows users, Microsoft released an 
updated version of its antipiracy program on Tuesday that changes the 
frequency with which the program checks for pirated or counterfeit 
copies of its client operating system.



I'm not sure what's going on with WGA, but we're one
of the irked users.

We had a client who installed an evaluation copy of
Windows 2003 Enterprise on a server we're hosting
for them. 


Before the expiration we tried activating with the activation
stuff MS provided, which didn't take, (still got activation
message). We then re-installed with a licensed copy of
Enterprise edition over a weekend. Everything seemed
okay until Monday when most of their websites started
crashing. We couldn't get in via the console login because
the activation message kept coming up. When you clicked
OK it just looped back to the activation message.

We could get in via Remote and spent 8 hours with 2
MS techs trying to straighten it out. We/they finally got
the system partially back up. In desperation we finally
did a system restore that was available before the re-install.

That worked and seemed properly activated. They've been
running it for almost a year now. Last week their IT guy
downloaded and installed the latest updates, one of which
was the new WGA. Now when you login a message pops
up saying they have xx days left to install a "retail" copy of
Enterprise edition.

We've been chewing MS butt over this crap every time
we talk with them now.

Yesterday my PC alerted me to an update, which was
WGA and I killed it.

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RE: [OT] These are the scum that voted to burn flags

2006-06-28 Thread Stephen the Cook

Michael Madigan <> wrote:
>
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm
?congress=109&session=2&vote=00189#position

First freedom of speech/action next it will be your GUNS.  

What's a constitution for anyway when we have to fix it all the time lately.



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[NF] Need Microsoft Echange Server guru

2006-06-28 Thread Vince Teachout


I just received the following email from one of my oldest clients:

"I need to contact a Microsoft Echange Server guru -
John's having an issue that's messing up our e-mail -
talked to 6 MS techies - all diiferent responses -

believe it is Echange Server 2003 -
the only blasted thing we are using it for is contacts"

I can vouch that this is a good guy, pretty reasonable to work with, and 
would be willing to pay for assistance at a good rate.

Any takers, leads?  I can give you contact info off list.  Thanks.


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RE: Strong parameter checking

2006-06-28 Thread Stephen the Cook

Dominic Burford <> wrote:
> <<
> I must say that for large projects involving multiple developers and
> changing requirements, strong, static typing speeds things up, simply
> because refactoring is so much easier to do.  
>>> 
> 
> I'm curious to find out how.  I would have thought a strongly typed
> language would have been *more* difficult to refactor, for the same
> rasons that it can take longer to develop using them i.e. they can
> prevent certain object interactions due to their enforcement of data
> types, and thus leads to additional code being written which conforms
> to these constraints. 

I work in a strongly typed language and find this totally FALSE.  It is
easier to refactor in C# /VS2005 then any other IDE I have worked in.  In
VS2003 it took a little more time.  Just hit Build and it would find all the
parts missed in a single refactor of a method used all over your app.

Now "thus leads to additional code being written which conforms to these
constraints."  OK this is a valid POV from a VFP person who says I just need
to add a day to my date.

dDate = dDate +1

dDate = dDate.AddDays(1);

So it is more verbose, in that you have to define what your adding to the
object.
But you do get more out of it.

dDate = dDate.AddMonths(2);
dDate = dDate.AddYears(1);

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Re: App Data generation


Tristan Leask wrote:

Hmm sounds good but I am not using the Stonefield kit.

Currently in the systems running at the moment we have a chkfiles
program that keeps the data structures correct.  But this is just suited
to dbfs.

At the moment I am tinkering with my own n-Tier design (building from
scratch to learn).  I want to do something similar as to what we were
doing before but using the data layer to alter tables.

One thought I had was to either have a generic checkfiles() in the app
object or possible put a checkfiles() in each biz object, thus they
would look after there own files.  The second route I think is going to
end up in more complicated maintenance and probably just will not work.
  
I'm sure this sort of thing would have been done by someone (and tested 
etc).  That's why I went for Stonefield.  I would not have to reinvent 
the wheel and it gave me other benefits (like a reindex function etc)


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RE: ActiveX errors.

2006-06-28 Thread Alan Bourke


That woudl work great assuming the custom class error event grabs any
error before the form error method does. Which I presume it will. Thanks
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RE: ActiveX errors.

2006-06-28 Thread Tracy Pearson

-Original Message-
From: Alan Bourke
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:10 AM
Subject: ActiveX errors.

Does anyone have a list of error numbers that pertain to ActiveX controls in
VFP, maybe specifically ones that could be thrown when attempting to
AddObject an ActiveX control? Say if the control is not present on the
machine?

This is VFP6 so I can't wrap the AddObject in TRY ... ENDTRY. Also the form
error handler needs to trap ActiveX-specific errors but bubble all others up
to the default handling.
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Why can't you wrap it in a try catch?

   private oTry, oTest
   oTry = createobject([trycatch])
   oTest = .NULL.
   oTry.Try([oTest = createobject('OleTest.Test1')])
   ?oTry.cMessage

   define class trycatch as custom

   nError = 0
   cMethod = ""
   nLine = 0
   cMessage = 0

   procedure try
  lparameter tcExec
  &tcExec
   endproc

   procedure error
  lparameter nError, cMethod, nLine
  this.nError = nError
  this.cMethod = cMethod
  this.nLine = nLine
  this.cMessage = message()
  return
   endproc

   enddefine

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RE: App Data generation

2006-06-28 Thread Tristan Leask

Hmm sounds good but I am not using the Stonefield kit.

Currently in the systems running at the moment we have a chkfiles
program that keeps the data structures correct.  But this is just suited
to dbfs.

At the moment I am tinkering with my own n-Tier design (building from
scratch to learn).  I want to do something similar as to what we were
doing before but using the data layer to alter tables.

One thought I had was to either have a generic checkfiles() in the app
object or possible put a checkfiles() in each biz object, thus they
would look after there own files.  The second route I think is going to
end up in more complicated maintenance and probably just will not work.

Tristan 

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Posted At: 28 June 2006 14:17
Posted To: Profox Archive
Conversation: App Data generation
Subject: Re: App Data generation

Tristan Leask wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Just pondering about something.
>
> How do you guys sort the data out for a new application installation?
> Do you generate it from within your program using the data layer to
> build up whatever files are required therefore the same generation
code
> can be used for DBF/MySQL/MSSQL/yada...?
>
>   
Hi Tristan,

I'm sticking to DBF's for now so this only works for that option.  It 
also works nicely for when I modify a table or add a new one.

I have a new app installation exe that will generate all the DBF's for 
me using a function in Stonefield Database Toolkit.  I just make sure 
the meta data files plus the DBC are copied over then I put in a text 
file "update.txt" in the system folder and check for this on startup.  
If the file is there I call

   oMeta.SetDatabase(dbc())
   IF oMeta.oSDTMgr.NeedUpdate()
   oMeta.oSDTMgr.Update()
   ENDIF
   ERASE ('system\update.txt')

Cheers

Peter

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RE: VFP7: DSN programatically

2006-06-28 Thread David Crooks

On Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:09 PM Chet Gardiner wrote:

>Control Panel

>Administrative Tools

>Data Sources

>System DSN Tab...

I guess you missed the part about 'programmatically'! 

David L. Crooks

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Re: App Data generation


Tristan Leask wrote:

Hi All,

Just pondering about something.

How do you guys sort the data out for a new application installation?
Do you generate it from within your program using the data layer to
build up whatever files are required therefore the same generation code
can be used for DBF/MySQL/MSSQL/yada...?

  

Hi Tristan,

I'm sticking to DBF's for now so this only works for that option.  It 
also works nicely for when I modify a table or add a new one.


I have a new app installation exe that will generate all the DBF's for 
me using a function in Stonefield Database Toolkit.  I just make sure 
the meta data files plus the DBC are copied over then I put in a text 
file "update.txt" in the system folder and check for this on startup.  
If the file is there I call


  oMeta.SetDatabase(dbc())
  IF oMeta.oSDTMgr.NeedUpdate()
  oMeta.oSDTMgr.Update()
  ENDIF
  ERASE ('system\update.txt')

Cheers

Peter



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App Data generation

2006-06-28 Thread Tristan Leask

Hi All,

Just pondering about something.

How do you guys sort the data out for a new application installation?
Do you generate it from within your program using the data layer to
build up whatever files are required therefore the same generation code
can be used for DBF/MySQL/MSSQL/yada...?

Just gathering some thoughts together...

Cheers all

Tristan Leask

Software Developer
Marine Software Ltd

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Re: Strong parameter checking

2006-06-28 Thread Eyvind Axelsen

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Emne: RE: Strong parameter checking

< I'm curious to find out how.  I would have thought a strongly typed language 
would have been *more* difficult to refactor, for the same rasons that it can 
take longer to develop using them i.e. they can prevent certain object 
interactions due to their enforcement of data types, and thus leads to 
additional code being written which conforms to these constraints. >

True, but on the other hand, if you change, say, a method signature, a compiler 
can spot every place in which a change is needed. Furthermore, if you change 
the name of a function or class member or the order in which parameters are 
sent to a function, a tool such as VS can do the refactoring for you 
automatically.

Still, I guess the answer to the question of development speed and 
strong/static vs weak typing is: "it depends" =)

Eyvind.


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RE: Strong parameter checking

2006-06-28 Thread Dominic Burford

<<
I must say that for large projects involving multiple developers and changing 
requirements, strong, static typing speeds things up, simply because 
refactoring is so much easier to do.
>>

I'm curious to find out how.  I would have thought a strongly typed language 
would have been *more* difficult to refactor, for the same rasons that it can 
take longer to develop using them i.e. they can prevent certain object 
interactions due to their enforcement of data types, and thus leads to 
additional code being written which conforms to these constraints.

<<
Furthermore, IMO, static (as opposed to just strong) typing is very valuable 
for intellisense, which is able to provide a lot more info in than in a 
language with weak/dynamic typing, and this alone can speed up development 
considerably.
>>

I agree, but I don't think this was ever under dispute, as the article 
concentrated solely on strong typing. 

Regards

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I would say that this is highly dependant on the type of application that you 
are making. I have worked with both weakly and strongly typed languages, and I 
must say that for large projects involving multiple developers and changing 
requirements, strong, static typing speeds things up, simply because 
refactoring is so much easier to do.

Furthermore, IMO, static (as opposed to just strong) typing is very valuable 
for intellisense, which is able to provide a lot more info in than in a 
language with weak/dynamic typing, and this alone can speed up development 
considerably.

Eyvind


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Re: Strong parameter checking

2006-06-28 Thread Eyvind Axelsen

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I would say that this is highly dependant on the type of application that you 
are making. I have worked with both weakly and strongly typed languages, and I 
must say that for large projects involving multiple developers and changing 
requirements, strong, static typing speeds things up, simply because 
refactoring is so much easier to do.

Furthermore, IMO, static (as opposed to just strong) typing is very valuable 
for intellisense, which is able to provide a lot more info in than in a 
language with weak/dynamic typing, and this alone can speed up development 
considerably.

Eyvind


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ActiveX errors.

2006-06-28 Thread Alan Bourke

Does anyone have a list of error numbers that pertain to ActiveX
controls in VFP, maybe specifically ones that could be thrown when
attempting to AddObject an ActiveX control? Say if the control is not
present on the machine?

This is VFP6 so I can't wrap the AddObject in TRY ... ENDTRY. Also the
form error handler needs to trap ActiveX-specific errors but bubble all
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RE: [NF] -- Windows Genuine program revised following uproar

2006-06-28 Thread Tristan Leask

Ahhh haaa!

This explains why its takes ages for my laptop to login every morning!

Remember I while back with the Dabo false virus flag (my laptop is not
connected to the internet), well every now and again I do connect up to
the Windows Update site, and guess what, the WGA has been installed.

I wondered why the lappie was taking ages to login!

Gawd damn you Mickiesoft!


Tristan


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"Responding to pressure from irked Windows users, Microsoft released an 
updated version of its antipiracy program on Tuesday that changes the 
frequency with which the program checks for pirated or counterfeit 
copies of its client operating system.

A new version of Microsoft's Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA) 
Notifications program available now no longer checks a server-side 
configuration of a user's version of Windows every time the user logs on

to see if it is a valid copy of Windows. Instead, it periodically checks

to see if the user's copy is genuine."




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RE: [OT] ooops

2006-06-28 Thread Kristyne McDaniel

Madigan,

> http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_177194808.html

It was pretty stupid for Limbaugh to think that he could carry prescriptions
around with someone else's name on them after his track record with
prescription drugs. Other than stupidity, though, it doesn't seem like much
else of import happened.

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RE: Strong parameter checking

2006-06-28 Thread Dominic Burford

<< The two are not mutually exclusive, and why have only one when you can have 
both?

No they are not, and the article did not state that either.  It was making the 
point that strongly typed languages can lead to more inflexible implementations 
compared to a weaker typed language.  It was also making the point that a 
criticism that is often levelled at weakly types languages is that they are 
more likely to lead to run-time errors related to their impementation.  
However, this criticism can be discarded with a greater emphasis on testing.  
And there is likely to be more time available for testing due to the quicker 
development times that weakly types languages are capable of.

Regards

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< As Bruce Eckel stated, strong testing, not strong typing. >

The two are not mutually exclusive, and why have only one when you can have 
both?

The compiler does not lead to a "false" feeling of security, because we as 
professional developers understand what sort of errors the compiler can catch, 
and we can develop appropriate (unit) tests for the rest. 

Eyvind.


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Re: Strong parameter checking

2006-06-28 Thread Eyvind Axelsen

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Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Ed Leafe

< As Bruce Eckel stated, strong testing, not strong typing. >

The two are not mutually exclusive, and why have only one when you can have 
both?

The compiler does not lead to a "false" feeling of security, because we as 
professional developers understand what sort of errors the compiler can catch, 
and we can develop appropriate (unit) tests for the rest. 

Eyvind.


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RE: [NF] How to disable Windows Genuine Advantage from phoningthemothership.

Don't know as I haven't tried it 


Dave Crozier
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>>>It's there now!

>>Oh no it's not!

>It is now.

... and throws a stream of js errors!

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