Re: [NF]: Microsoft's Security Problems Multiply
Stephen the Cook wrote: > > > >> This is *EXACTLY* why I don't like the idea of dumping desktop apps >> for Web applications when a desktop app would more than suffice. >> (And no, _Stephen, I'm not talking about sites like Amazon or UPS or >> FedEx. ) >> > > > I have to deal with installing an app to 500+ locations around the globe if > this prototype is accepted. How would you deploy an app that far with > desktop lockdowns? Create an install package and have them download and install it... How do they install the other 98% of the apps they still use that are still NON web based? > Or would you go for a browser based system where you > have rights on the server? > What are the requirements of the app? What is it supposed to do? Will this require a server side setup ? Will all the users be connecting to the same server? Who is to say that the URL isn't locked down too? Did you develop the web based version to work across all browsers (standards based) or assume all users will use be forced to use IE ? man you would be surprised at how many FireFox installations I have seen out there. Will you be using an all Microsoft solution? You haven't given anyone enough information to make an informed decision. For me this is a piss poor argument and one I am particularly tired of ;) It ranks right up there with "Why reinvent the wheel?" on my shit list. 8-) > > > Stephen Russell > DBA / .Net Developer > > Memphis TN 38115 > 901.246-0159 > > "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided > missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. > > http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ > > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Can we fix OT?
Don't forget the cops who drew their guns on him. They were part of the Necon conspiracy too. --- Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 21 November 2006 09:45, Bill Arnold > wrote: > > > Agreed, but when I tried to create one that > applied to one email ID > > within the FROM address (example shown above), it > doesn't work. What I'm > > trying to figure out is how to code the rule so it > applies to an email > > ID within the FROM addresses as they apply coming > from ProFox (or > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I have tried a few > ways, and none seem to > > work. > > Hi Bill! > > This is God's way of trying to reach you. God is > making you read the posts of > those who fail to see you as the prophet you ain't. > Evidently God doesn't > think you are prophetic either. > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > > > ___ > Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com > Subscription Maintenance: > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox > OT-free version of this list: > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech > ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, > are the opinions of the author, and do not > constitute legal or medical advice. This statement > is added to the messages for those lawyers who are > too stupid to see the obvious. > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF]: Microsoft's Security Problems Multiply
Stephen, > I have to deal with installing an app to 500+ locations around the > globe if this prototype is accepted. How would you deploy an app that > far with desktop lockdowns? Or would you go for a browser based > system where you have rights on the server? You can distribute your VFP apps to locked down workstations by installing everything in a single folder. No need for .NET upgrades (a nightmare across 500 workstations spread across the globe). No browser dependencies or security leaks. Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 09:49, Hal Kaplan wrote: > => > > => > Does anyone else think they are above being drafted? > => > => Hi Hal! > => > => Yep, all us old guys and yo momma too. If the towel heads > => kill us it will only make a couple of years difference anyway. > > Not us, Pete. We've got a draft classification that money cannot buy ... > 4A. But if they want me, I am ready to go back and pick-up where I left > off. I had a great time in USAF flying a D3060. Hi Hal! 4For not, we will fight them there or we will fight them here. I have to get out to the range and get some practice in - they are certainly coming. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Can we fix OT?
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 09:45, Bill Arnold wrote: > Agreed, but when I tried to create one that applied to one email ID > within the FROM address (example shown above), it doesn't work. What I'm > trying to figure out is how to code the rule so it applies to an email > ID within the FROM addresses as they apply coming from ProFox (or > [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I have tried a few ways, and none seem to > work. Hi Bill! This is God's way of trying to reach you. God is making you read the posts of those who fail to see you as the prophet you ain't. Evidently God doesn't think you are prophetic either. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 07:27, Helio W. wrote: Hi Helio! The terrorists themselves keep it pretty simple. "Death to America", Death to Israel, Allah is great. No reason to read anything more into it. > Virgil, > > The US has the largest and more powerful military in the world. US have the > biggest military budget in the world. US is the biggest seller in the > armament industry. US still have military bases all over the world. US have > a history of intervention in foreign countries, including backing military > coups and dictators (remember when Saddam was an ally?). 3k people died in > the 9/11 attack. Thousands and thousands have died in Afghanistan and Iraq. > > "Have you ever gave it a moments thought that perhaps" it's not as simple > as "the US was attacked by people full of out of nowhere hate who want to > destroy freedom and democracy"? -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 07:27, Bill Arnold wrote: > > Bill, Have you ever gave it a moments thought that perhaps it > > is you who is wrong ? > > Yes. Without such contemplation I wouldn't - couldn't - speak with such > conviction. Hi Bill! Oh, yeah. You thought you were wrong once, but later decided that you had been mistaken. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 17:13, Leland Jackson wrote: > Well, after educating myself again on Machiavelli* *thoughts about using > mercenaries and auxiliary force, here are some of my concerns. > > The government the US put in power in Iraq is totally dependent on a US > presence to remain in power. Hi Leland! Yes, we need a citizen's army. I say we need about four years worth of universal military service, men women, "gays", white and colored alike including the rich kids as well. Send ten divisions of this huge army over to Iraq, the rest to the other axis of evil places. The women are so manly nowadays no one will notice them. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?
I truly hope that you are right and I definitely advocate that we pull out of every country where we are not wanted. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 8:04 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > Ricardo, you seem like a nice intelligent individual. > > But, how do you figure the rest of the world is not endangered ? > Everything I see shows me that these muslim extremists will not rest > until people like you and me either succumb or are dead. > > I don't watch much tv, nor read many newspapers. > But if you want me to send you a message everytime I see something > supporting that observation, I will be more then happy to do so. > > > Till we went there looking for oil they managed to let the world be. They are not bombing Uruguay, nor Paraguay, nor Mexico, nor Honduras, nor Norway (if you can pardon the redundancy), nor Holland etc.etc. Most of their attention is against those who meddle in their countries without being invited. Same thing happened with the crusades, and once the 'west' left them alone trouble stopped till the next time. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > Ricardo, you seem like a nice intelligent individual. > > But, how do you figure the rest of the world is not endangered ? > Everything I see shows me that these muslim extremists will not rest until > people like you and me either succumb or are dead. > > I don't watch much tv, nor read many newspapers. > But if you want me to send you a message everytime I see something > supporting that observation, I will be more then happy to do so. > > > Till we went there looking for oil they managed to let the world be. They are not bombing Uruguay, nor Paraguay, nor Mexico, nor Honduras, nor Norway (if you can pardon the redundancy), nor Holland etc.etc. Most of their attention is against those who meddle in their countries without being invited. Same thing happened with the crusades, and once the 'west' left them alone trouble stopped till the next time. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF]: Microsoft's Security Problems Multiply
Citrix is one way and I've used it many times. There is nothing wrong with browser based apps, BUT you need to validate the data BEFORE importing it into the data files... Kind of like SBT used to do with the current and history files... Virgil Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:47 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF]: Microsoft's Security Problems Multiply > This is *EXACTLY* why I don't like the idea of dumping desktop apps > for Web applications when a desktop app would more than suffice. > (And no, _Stephen, I'm not talking about sites like Amazon or UPS or > FedEx. ) I have to deal with installing an app to 500+ locations around the globe if this prototype is accepted. How would you deploy an app that far with desktop lockdowns? Or would you go for a browser based system where you have rights on the server? Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.11/543 - Release Date: 11/20/2006 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF]: Microsoft's Security Problems Multiply
> This is *EXACTLY* why I don't like the idea of dumping desktop apps > for Web applications when a desktop app would more than suffice. > (And no, _Stephen, I'm not talking about sites like Amazon or UPS or > FedEx. ) I have to deal with installing an app to 500+ locations around the globe if this prototype is accepted. How would you deploy an app that far with desktop lockdowns? Or would you go for a browser based system where you have rights on the server? Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.11/543 - Release Date: 11/20/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?
Yep, that is a very hard determination to make. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 6:05 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > I have said many times that we need to: > 1. Fire all our politicians and bring in fresh people that have never > served a day in office so that we will have fresh ideas. > 2. disband the nsa and cia > 3. stay out of other countries business UNLESS their leaders ask us to > be there. > How do you decide which are 'their leaders'? That's a tricky (or very convenient) decision. Isn't it? [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF]: Microsoft's Security Problems Multiply
Agreed. When I was working, I allways said, we keep the data manipulation behind the firewall. We only allow browsing from outside. If outside wants to send info inside. We send it to a temporary file where we have operators the next day validate everything BEFORE importing it into our system. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:23 PM To: Profox Subject: Fwd: [NF]: Microsoft's Security Problems Multiply Courtesy Carl/VFUG: Microsoft's Security Problems Multiply: http://www.cioinsight.com/article2/0,1540,2060337,00.asp "Many of the new vulnerabilities come from the widespread adoption of Web applications, which offer fast and direct access to information that formerly resided behind corporate firewalls." This is *EXACTLY* why I don't like the idea of dumping desktop apps for Web applications when a desktop app would more than suffice. (And no, _Stephen, I'm not talking about sites like Amazon or UPS or FedEx. ) -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com "Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!" No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.11/543 - Release Date: 11/20/2006 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) text/plain (text body -- kept) --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?
Ricardo, you seem like a nice intelligent individual. But, how do you figure the rest of the world is not endangered ? Everything I see shows me that these muslim extremists will not rest until people like you and me either succumb or are dead. I don't watch much tv, nor read many newspapers. But if you want me to send you a message everytime I see something supporting that observation, I will be more then happy to do so. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:34 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > could it possibly be you that does not see the truth because of your > convictions > > they have access to info that you do not and they believe as do I that > this war actually is ww 3 > But they said the same about the Russians, and then about the Chinese, and about the Japanese (commercial wars). So How many WW3 are you entitled to have? If being the only superpower is not enough, then why spend so much money time and effort in getting armed? How come USA is endangered whereas the rest of the world is not?. Oh! so the rest of the world is counting on USA to save the stew? Then why is USA so stupid as to be played that way by the rest of the world? Too many contradictions! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] HOWTO: "DNS Explained" posted
Great Read! You have explained DNS so well even an IT guy can understand it. Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:36 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject:[NF] HOWTO: "DNS Explained" posted I've heard one or two of you do some things on the Internet. You might find the following interesting. The writeup for the November MLUG meeting's newbie session on DNS are posted. 14 pages of glory and blather. http://www.hentzenwerke.com/wp/dns_explained.htm Whil [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
