RE: [NF] Detect ActiveSync and Hotsync
Tracy, Could you not simply see if rapimgr.exe is running as a process? Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson Sent: 08 January 2007 16:33 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Detect ActiveSync and Hotsync I'm starting a vertical market project which is to work on either PalmOS or the PocketPC. Is there a way to detect, programmatically, if ActiveSync and HotSync is installed? Thanks, Tracy [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] New Dabo Screencast, Part 2
On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:13 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: You still need to adjust code per backend for joins, date math and such. Oracle / DB2 / MySQL are all different in these cases. Of course, to the extent that you use backend-specific code explicitly, that's true. If you use the framework to do these things, that's taken care of for you. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] beware of catalysts to control the internet
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 02:01, Bill Arnold wrote: snip The only way I can think of to keep this monster from growing is anonymous access Hi Bill! I prefer an arrangement where you are held responsible for what you say and write. It has been, for all my life, that you have freedom of speech - but you can't yell FIRE in a crowded theater. I am fine with that, you, evidently, want to be able to commit treason anonymously. But the patriots, they signed their names and pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor. Forgot that part, didn't you. Your way, we would be buried in spam, just to begin with. That, too, is a form of terrorism. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] New Dabo Screencast, Part 2
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:13 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: You still need to adjust code per backend for joins, date math and such. Oracle / DB2 / MySQL are all different in these cases. Of course, to the extent that you use backend-specific code explicitly, that's true. If you use the framework to do these things, that's taken care of for you. Ed -- are you incorporating something like that in Dabo (i.e., code to take care of those things for you)? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Detect ActiveSync and Hotsync
I don't always have hotsync running on my box. The ActiveSync I have not found a way to turn off yet. Tracy -Original Message- From: Dave Crozier Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:27 AM Tracy, Could you not simply see if rapimgr.exe is running as a process? Dave Crozier ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Handling different backend SQLs (was Re: [NF] New Dabo Screencast, Part 2)
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 9, 2007, at 8:31 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote: Ed -- are you incorporating something like that in Dabo (i.e., code to take care of those things for you)? Yes. Our data layer consists of a cursor object, which has a backend object that is specific to the details of the backend being used. Code originally starts in the cursor: self.doSomething() ...until we find a backend that does it differently. Then it is refactored to: self.BackendObject.doSomething() The backend object superclass is dBackend, into which the default behavior is placed. Each subclass (for MySQL, MS SQL, etc.) can then override the default behavior if necessary. Example: each backend has a different way of limiting the number of records returned from a query. MySQL uses LIMIT at the end of the statement; MS SQL uses TOP after the SELECT keyword, etc. If you were to hardcode the query in your bizobj, then yes, you'd have to change it if you switched backends. But if you used the SQL builder code in Dabo: bizobj.setLimit(100) ...then that gets executed at runtime into the appropriate syntax for the current backend. Cool...that's somewhat how I did with the SQL_MYSQL / SQL_VFP columns in the sqldefs.dbf table in my n-tier project. I like the way you're doing it, with things like the SetLimit(100) that then takes care of the respective backend logic. Question: if your WHERE clause looks for a specific primary key, is there any advantage to using a LIMIT -style clause? I was getting in the habit of always adding the LIMIT 0,1 in my MySQL SELECT statements, but wondering if it's overkill or pointless? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SQL Server Management Studio Express
Paul Hill wrote: A few years ago I was migrating a bunch of Fox data to MSSQL. I was using a spare PC running MSDE (the previous incarnation of SQL Express) to develop the conversion routines but my data hit the 2 Gb limit. So I installed Win2K Server full SQL 2000 on the same box. The same data scripts run a hell of a lot faster, *and the resulting data was less than 2GB*. Funny that. *and the resulting data was less than 2GB* Why do you suppose that I wonder? Stored as perhaps differing field types (char vs varchar)? I eluded to the governor switch idea that was in place in MSDE whereby it would purposely slow down after so many concurrent queries. I thought perhaps they had other governor switches in place to limit the freebie version too. ?? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
Richard Kaye wrote: I finally bit the bullet recently and updated to IE7. When I tried to run WS-FTP 2006, I got a message box displaying the Word Never! and a yellow triangle. Like one of those things you see in the back pages of computer mags. For anyone using WS-FTP, this is a known issue. Here's the link on how to work around it http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/WS-20060811-SP01.htm Thanks for the warning. I use WS-FTP all the time, but hadn't known about this. Probably won't matter to me, since I'll just be using FireFox, but thanks nonetheless for the heads up! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Neat Free Desktop Remote Control
To All, Earlier this week I found a piece of software called Crossloop: http://www.crossloop.com It is a fully secure remote desktop control piece of software that is just so so easy to install (in fact you simply run the program, not install it) that it is ideal for end users. I've used it many times this week with not a single problem as I would have usually used the Free version of Logmein.com but it wouldn't install on the remote machines. I recommend it. Dave Crozier I Quote: What is CrossLoop? CrossLoop is a FREE secure screen sharing utility designed for people of all technical skill levels. CrossLoop extends the boundaries of traditional screen sharing by enabling non-technical users to get connected from anywhere on the Internet in seconds without changing any firewall or router settings. It only takes a few minutes to setup and no signup is required. Is CrossLoop Secure? Security is built into all aspects of CrossLoop. Session data is encrypted at the end-points before being sent using a 128-bit encryption algorithm using a randomly generated 12-digit access code. Explicit permission is required before any screen images are sent to a remote computer. CrossLoop is a secure tool to remotely assist any PC on the planet. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Can FPD2.6 application run on Windows 2003 server
hi all, Does anyone run FPD2.6 application on Windows 2003 server ? thanks, Yap --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Neat Free Desktop Remote Control
Update: There is now a small install program with the download that creates a desktop icon. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: 09 January 2007 15:16 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: [NF] Neat Free Desktop Remote Control To All, Earlier this week I found a piece of software called Crossloop: http://www.crossloop.com It is a fully secure remote desktop control piece of software that is just so so easy to install (in fact you simply run the program, not install it) that it is ideal for end users. I've used it many times this week with not a single problem as I would have usually used the Free version of Logmein.com but it wouldn't install on the remote machines. I recommend it. Dave Crozier I Quote: What is CrossLoop? CrossLoop is a FREE secure screen sharing utility designed for people of all technical skill levels. CrossLoop extends the boundaries of traditional screen sharing by enabling non-technical users to get connected from anywhere on the Internet in seconds without changing any firewall or router settings. It only takes a few minutes to setup and no signup is required. Is CrossLoop Secure? Security is built into all aspects of CrossLoop. Session data is encrypted at the end-points before being sent using a 128-bit encryption algorithm using a randomly generated 12-digit access code. Explicit permission is required before any screen images are sent to a remote computer. CrossLoop is a secure tool to remotely assist any PC on the planet. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
create tables part two
OK, off to a good start but I really didn't explain myself too well before. I have used COPY STRUCTURE EXTENDED already within an application and based some pretty reports off of the data that is generated. Using AFIELDS works, kind of. It will recreate the table but I have to have a way to recreate the table using user input. Example: the original table has the following columns: fullname C (25) company C (50) addr1 C (33) addr2 C (33) state C (2) city C (30) zip5 C (5) zip4 C (4) Our software will take the above format but convert it to it's own format which doesn't always handle some types of data well and has space limitations on other fields. It will try to parse fullname into first name, middle initial, last name, suffix, prefix and truncate company to 36 characters. Because of that, we have to include these fields again at the end of the data to insure that the data will be as the client specified. Our default format remains a constant with the exception of the extra data that the user defines to be placed again at the end of the file. In this example, lets say that we had to include both the fullname and the company at the end of the file. The format will look something like this: (The rest of the format defined in 21 different columns) junk1 C (2) -- the first 'junk' column will always be [,] include1 C (25) -- fullname column is the first included extra column. junk2 C (3) -- this will always be [,] when it isn't the first or last column include2 C (50) -- company column is the second included extra column. junk3 C (1) -- the last 'junk' column will always be [] In general, all fields are fixed length format except for the extra included data which would come from the user selections. In the past, I have done all of the table manipulation by hand, changing table structure and modifying my code to fit the new table structure but now we need to have it be more 'user friendly' so that I can let my co-workers share in the fun and have more of a consistent way of working with the data. Using AFIELDS and COPY STRUCTURE EXTENDED does a great job of copying the structure but not so great about taking into consideration the decisions about what the user wishes to include and what not to include in this type of situation. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Strange error message
Hi all, When building an EXE from my project, I'm getting two errors. Here's the .ERR file: Compiling c:\pontotoc\pontotoc.dbc dondondonENDIF it's locked already, or i was able to lock it Error in line 36 (record 3): Unrecognized command verb. Error in line 40 (record 3): An IF | ELSE | ENDIF statement is missing. I've got no clue what dondondon could be, or in which form it's finding the two errors that are listed. Normally, whenever I get an error, it tells me which form, etc., but not here. And I've never seen an error generated from compiling the .DBC. Any suggestions for how to track these down and correct them? Thanks much! John The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but lack of will. - Vince Lombardi * All mail scanned by Norton AntiVirus. No AV software on your computer? Remove me from your address book, please. * Please respect my privacy. Do not forward my address to anyone else or include me in emails sent to multiple recipients. Use BCC. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Leland, Expectations created from imaginary fantasies based on emails should not create such reactions. How can someone become so in love with someone they have never physically meet? The kid was 17 years old. He built up an imaginary woman in his mind and reality could not compete with his imagination. Emotions are at their most raw when a person is a teenager, and I think teenage boys are more vulnerable than girls even though conventional wisdom says the opposite. There are a lot of suicides in the teen years over things that the rest of us all know are temporary problems. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Pete, Whether I am a hottie or not is of no consequence to you or anyone else here. Who cares one way or another? I doubt you and I will ever meet, and if we do... Trust me, nothing is going to happen. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Yeap, give a problem a little time, and it will pass. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Regards, LelandJ Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Leland, Expectations created from imaginary fantasies based on emails should not create such reactions. How can someone become so in love with someone they have never physically meet? The kid was 17 years old. He built up an imaginary woman in his mind and reality could not compete with his imagination. Emotions are at their most raw when a person is a teenager, and I think teenage boys are more vulnerable than girls even though conventional wisdom says the opposite. There are a lot of suicides in the teen years over things that the rest of us all know are temporary problems. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Leland, Yeap, give a problem a little time, and it will pass. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. That's one of the best things parents and adults can help teens to understand. When you're a kid and everything seems to be so important, it is difficult to get an accurate fix on where your problems fit in with the rest of your life. If you don't have adults around that you respect and can talk to, you can wind up killing yourself over a temporary problem. It is easy to work yourself up when your emotions are raw. Steve taught high school and did a lot of suicide counseling with his students and others. He has an MA in human behavior and counseling, and a K-14 counseling credential, and did a lot of hours of training with Vietnam vets and battered women. For years he had kids calling him in the middle of the night when they were thinking of doing something stupid. As far as we know, none of the kids he counseled killed themselves. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
Richard Kaye wrote: I finally bit the bullet recently and updated to IE7. When I tried to run WS-FTP 2006, I got a message box displaying the Word Never! and a yellow triangle. Like one of those things you see in the back pages of computer mags. For anyone using WS-FTP, this is a known issue. Here's the link on how to work around it http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/WS-20060811-SP01.htm I would love a screen shot of the 'never!' message. s Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Kris, I took a masters level Crisis Intervention Strategies course once, and we had to do roll play. While we were preparing for our demonstration of the active listening technique, I was working with a young lady who was giving a detailed description of all the terrible stuff that had happened to her. I couldn't resist (we were just prepping you know). I told her, you know I don't think I've ever heard anything quite this terrible, have you considered suicide? She smacked me, then fell out laughing!!! John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:53 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for? Leland, Yeap, give a problem a little time, and it will pass. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. That's one of the best things parents and adults can help teens to understand. When you're a kid and everything seems to be so important, it is difficult to get an accurate fix on where your problems fit in with the rest of your life. If you don't have adults around that you respect and can talk to, you can wind up killing yourself over a temporary problem. It is easy to work yourself up when your emotions are raw. Steve taught high school and did a lot of suicide counseling with his students and others. He has an MA in human behavior and counseling, and a K-14 counseling credential, and did a lot of hours of training with Vietnam vets and battered women. For years he had kids calling him in the middle of the night when they were thinking of doing something stupid. As far as we know, none of the kids he counseled killed themselves. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Strange error message
John, Try right clicking on the dbc name in the data tab of the project manager and look at the Include/exclude property. I guess you have included the dbc in your executable. Either that or you have a corrupted dbc, but the compiler doesn't look at the dbc so it shouldn't be that. Also run a validate on the database Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John J. Mihaljevic Sent: 09 January 2007 16:17 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Strange error message Hi all, When building an EXE from my project, I'm getting two errors. Here's the .ERR file: Compiling c:\pontotoc\pontotoc.dbc dondondonENDIF it's locked already, or i was able to lock it Error in line 36 (record 3): Unrecognized command verb. Error in line 40 (record 3): An IF | ELSE | ENDIF statement is missing. I've got no clue what dondondon could be, or in which form it's finding the two errors that are listed. Normally, whenever I get an error, it tells me which form, etc., but not here. And I've never seen an error generated from compiling the .DBC. Any suggestions for how to track these down and correct them? Thanks much! John The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but lack of will. - Vince Lombardi * All mail scanned by Norton AntiVirus. No AV software on your computer? Remove me from your address book, please. * Please respect my privacy. Do not forward my address to anyone else or include me in emails sent to multiple recipients. Use BCC. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
Richard, It certainly doesn't happen with the 2007 version so I gues they have fixed it. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Kaye Sent: 09 January 2007 14:34 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Another app broken by IE7 I finally bit the bullet recently and updated to IE7. When I tried to run WS-FTP 2006, I got a message box displaying the Word Never! and a yellow triangle. Like one of those things you see in the back pages of computer mags. For anyone using WS-FTP, this is a known issue. Here's the link on how to work around it http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/WS-20060811-SP01.htm -- Richard Kaye Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 Fax: 617.219.1001 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Ed, People without depression who are going through tough emotional times can understand that it may pass and can imagine feeling better at some point in the future; people with depression simply cannot. If that were true talk therapy would never work. I had a 2 year battle with major depression back in the early 90's, and Steve has been fighting chronic major depression his entire life. People can learn to cope with the stuff in their heads. It takes a lot of work, but there are ways to cope with severe depression both with and without medication. I was medicated for about two years and have not been on antidepressants now for the last 14 years. Steve has been able to be off meds for about 10 years now. One of our best presidents -- Lincoln -- battled chronic major depression most of his adult life. There were no miracle meds back then. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
John, you know I don't think I've ever heard anything quite this terrible, have you considered suicide? She smacked me, then fell out laughing!!! Steve's main technique is to help his kids develop a set of options that they can consider. He calls it living like you are on your arm, and he illustrates by wiggling his fingers, and says they need at least as many options as they have fingers on their hand. Then they work through options for each finger that they can do which are NOT suicide, keeping suicide as one of the options -- in reserve. You can't talk a suicidal person out of suicide. All you can do is show them it is not their only option, and keep them redirected at the other choices. After enough time has gone by and they've selected the other options often enough, the suicide option looks less and less attractive. But the reality is that suicidal people never really give up on the idea. It is always in the back of their heads somewhere whether they are talking about it or not. And whether they joke about it or not, it is serious business with them. If they don't have the tools to redirect their thoughts, one day they will indeed kill themselves. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
On Jan 9, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: If that were true talk therapy would never work. 'Depression' is like 'cancer': a single word to describe a wide variety of problems that manifest themselves similarly. Chemical imbalances cannot be talked away. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Ed, 'Depression' is like 'cancer': a single word to describe a wide variety of problems that manifest themselves similarly. Chemical imbalances cannot be talked away. There's always going to be two points of view on that until medical sciences gets further along. The chemical imbalance theory is a theory without a lot of proof behind it yet. Doctors test out pills and people say they feel better. They theorize it is because a chemical imbalance was corrected. I'm saying this because I am one of those folks that got stuck on a medical trial for Wellbutrin. All they did is give me pills and ask me questions. There was no testing of the chemicals in my brain and what the pills were doing to them. It was all question and answer time, filling out little bubbles on a form. I, myself, did much better with talk therapy with a PhD psychologist. The M.D. psychiatrist slapped me with a bunch of brand name pills and ignored me. The psychologist worked with my family physician to prescribe something more correct for me, and then worked with me to find coping mechanisms for the stuff going on in my head. It was the psychologist that helped me the most -- not the pill pusher. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
I think you're wrong Kristyne, there's much scientific work behind these theories and plenty and strong evidence. And the brain IS a bio-chemical machine. From what I read, real science already buried most of classic psychoanalysis two decades ago. And in actuality what you said can be related to psychologists, who talk, talk, talk and when the patient improves (sometimes year and years after, if they don't commit suicide before) they theorize it is because the patient remembered and confronted a harmful experience from it's childhood that was buried deep inside her/his superego/ego/id or something like that. HW On 1/9/07, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's always going to be two points of view on that until medical sciences gets further along. The chemical imbalance theory is a theory without a lot of proof behind it yet. Doctors test out pills and people say they feel better. They theorize it is because a chemical imbalance was corrected. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
External stimuli can affect a person's brain chemical balance, no? That would explain the poor scientific record of cures by prayer or psychoanalysis. On 1/9/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 9, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: If that were true talk therapy would never work. 'Depression' is like 'cancer': a single word to describe a wide variety of problems that manifest themselves similarly. Chemical imbalances cannot be talked away. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VFP9: Thinks table is corrupt
I have an app in VFP 9 that thinks a table is corrupt. I can see the data in VFP7 just fine. What do I have to do to get around it? TIA! David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
On Jan 9, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Helio W. wrote: External stimuli can affect a person's brain chemical balance, no? That would explain the poor scientific record of cures by prayer or psychoanalysis. There are so many factors that go into achieving the correct chemical mix in the brain, it's amazing that it works at all. The problem with most drugs is that they cannot possibly address the specific problem. Let's take the example of a serotonin deficiency, the most common cause of clinical depression. There are several possible causes for this: 1) deficiency in enzymes that create serotonin 2) overzealousness of enzymes that break down serotonin 3) structural abnormality in serotonin receptors 4) excess of serotonin analogues that compete for receptors Each of these will have the same net effect, but for a completely different reason. It is foolish to imagine that a single pill could work for everyone. BTW, the brain does respond chemically to thoughts, so there is an excellent basis for talk therapy by iteself being beneficial in many cases. The improved thoughts can trigger more serotonin release, which in some cases can be a permanent change via rewiring of the brain. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Neat Free Desktop Remote Control
It's too bad they don't have a Linux or Mac version as well. They make reference to using TightVNC but it looks like their encryption is in addition to just using TightVNC. Looks goood though! I'll have to give it a try. Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net Dave Crozier wrote: To All, Earlier this week I found a piece of software called Crossloop: http://www.crossloop.com It is a fully secure remote desktop control piece of software that is just so so easy to install (in fact you simply run the program, not install it) that it is ideal for end users. I've used it many times this week with not a single problem as I would have usually used the Free version of Logmein.com but it wouldn't install on the remote machines. I recommend it. Dave Crozier I Quote: ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
That was my point! On 1/9/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the brain does respond chemically to thoughts, so there is an excellent basis for talk therapy by iteself being beneficial in many cases. The improved thoughts can trigger more serotonin release, which in some cases can be a permanent change via rewiring of the brain. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9: Thinks table is corrupt
Have you packed the table in VFP7? Rick Q -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Crooks Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 13:15 To: ProFox Email List Subject: VFP9: Thinks table is corrupt I have an app in VFP 9 that thinks a table is corrupt. I can see the data in VFP7 just fine. What do I have to do to get around it? TIA! David L. Crooks [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9: Thinks table is corrupt
On Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:21 PM Rick Quilhot wrote: Have you packed the table in VFP7? Not yet. I guess I will try that. Thanks! David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
BTW, since I saw that picture of nano-electrodes linked to a rat's single neuron I believe Borg like creatures are viable! No depression ever! On 1/9/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are so many factors that go into achieving the correct chemical mix in the brain, it's amazing that it works at all. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: I would love a screen shot of the 'never!' message. s I always thought a great error message would be: RIIIGHT! (What's a 'Cubit'?) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
(What's a 'Cubit'?) The distance from the end of the fingers to the elbow - generally taken to be 18. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VFP7: Not enough memory (error #43)
Is this error memory also related to a corrupted table? TIA? David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9: Thinks table is corrupt
Look up SET TABLEVALIDATE. Tracy -Original Message- From: David Crooks Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:15 PM I have an app in VFP 9 that thinks a table is corrupt. I can see the data in VFP7 just fine. What do I have to do to get around it? TIA! David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Helio, Ed, That was my point! On 1/9/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the brain does respond chemically to thoughts, so there is an excellent basis for talk therapy by iteself being beneficial in many cases. The improved thoughts can trigger more serotonin release, which in some cases can be a permanent change via rewiring of the brain. We know the brain works on electrical impulses. We know there are chemicals which affect it, and we know that some drugs poke and prod those chemicals. The talk therapy that I'm referring to is not the many years of mumbo jumbo that people are ridiculing here. I'm talking about the behavioral therapies that help people figure out different ways to look at a problem, and devise a means to cope with situations in their lives. Perhaps that does a certain amount of brain rewiring. I don't know. As an aside, Steve had a brain MRI two weeks ago after seeing a neurologist about headaches. The MRI showed that he had several strokes a long time ago. They didn't say how many years ago. All I can say is he must have been rewiring his brain all along because nobody noticed. Also, we know that one of the 5 arteries supplying his heart was completely closed and inoperable two years ago. At the time of the angiogram that diagnosed the problem, Steve's body was already building tributary arteries to supply the blood to his heart. There was too much damage to his heart from his second heart attack for the surgeon to do a bypass, so they just waited for him to get better first. In the meantime, his body built up so many tributaries that the bypass is no longer needed. His heart is back to an injection fraction of 48, with 50 being normal. Go figure. Human bodies are miraculous things. Kristyne McDaniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:21 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!
Long live Apple, Inc.! -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
On Jan 9, 2007, at 1:58 PM, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: As an aside, Steve had a brain MRI two weeks ago after seeing a neurologist about headaches. The MRI showed that he had several strokes a long time ago. They didn't say how many years ago. All I can say is he must have been rewiring his brain all along because nobody noticed. Yep. It's an incredible process that unfortunately slows with age, but fortunately never stops. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!
Should be interesting to see how Cingular exclusivity hinders adoption of that nifty looking iPhone. On 1/9/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Long live Apple, Inc.! -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Oops... I meant E-jection fraction of 48... many tributaries that the bypass is no longer needed. His heart is back to an injection fraction of 48, with 50 being normal. Go figure. Human bodies are miraculous things. Kristyne McDaniel ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Not only human bodies... life in general is amazing. Given millions of years, evolution works miracles... ps: Steve's body certainly is super-resistant, he beat flesh-eating bacteria, his body will beat anything! Don't you have children? You should... you know, pass along these good genes. On 1/9/07, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go figure. Human bodies are miraculous things. Kristyne McDaniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:21 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: create tables part two
Using AFIELDS and COPY STRUCTURE EXTENDED does a great job of copying the structure but not so great about taking into consideration the decisions about what the user wishes to include and what not to include in this type of situation. Jeff, I'm not sure this is what you're looking for, but can use UDF's in SELECT statements to do just about any rearranging of the input data that you could want to do. Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Helio, ps: Steve's body certainly is super-resistant, he beat flesh-eating bacteria, his body will beat anything! Don't you have children? You should... you know, pass along these good genes. Steve and I were both fixed by the time we met each other. But he has 4 kids and 3 grandkids now (1 more on the way), and I have one son myself. Steve has a very strong will to survive and seems to survive all kinds of things. At the same time he talks about suicide over and over again and fights chronic major depression -- probably because he is sick so often. He wasn't supposed to survive his childhood because he was so sick and he's been beating odds since he was an infant. I think something in him wills his body to keep healing over and over again. He's had pneumonia 10 times now. Lots of people don't live through that once. Let's just say the health insurance gets paid every month ahead of everything including the mortgage. :-) Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.healthcarenme.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!
On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Ted Roche wrote: So, did they just rename the one company, instead of splitting off Apple Media, Apple iPods, Apple Movies and Apple Computer? Interesting. Just a rename. Looking forward to seeing the keynote when it comes out. It's not a video, but lots of photos: http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/live-from-macworld-2007-steve-jobs- keynote/ ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/yyfb9f ) -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 11:19, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Hi Kristyne! It was a joke - Mike was ragging you and I was just pointing out the other possibility. I wasn't trying to touch your nerves. Pete, Whether I am a hottie or not is of no consequence to you or anyone else -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!
On 1/9/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not a video, but lots of photos: http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/live-from-macworld-2007-steve-jobs- keynote/ ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/yyfb9f ) Thanks! I had followed the keynot on the Macworld site: http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/09/liveupdate/index.php?lsrc=mwrss or http://preview.tinyurl.com/yfm2ln But I enjoy the show as well. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!
Ted Roche wrote: On 1/9/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Long live Apple, Inc.! So, did they just rename the one company, instead of splitting off Apple Media, Apple iPods, Apple Movies and Apple Computer? Interesting. Since they sold 2 BILLION songs on iTunes, 500 million TV shows and 1.3 million movies, a couple of computers here and there don't reflect the name of the company. Looking forward to seeing the keynote when it comes out. I've been cobbling together a digital media hub for a while now. Maybe I'll toss it all for a $299 appleTV... Makes me wonder how much it costs to change your company name. For companies as big as them, I'll bet it's a LOT! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 12:03, john harvey wrote: Kris, I took a masters level Crisis Intervention Strategies course once, and we had to do roll play. While we were preparing for our demonstration of the active listening technique, I was working with a young lady who was giving a detailed description of all the terrible stuff that had happened to her. I couldn't resist (we were just prepping you know). I told her, you know I don't think I've ever heard anything quite this terrible, have you considered suicide? She smacked me Hi John! Just let a man smack a woman in a role-play exercise. There would be no laughing. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] The end of desktop software development?
Expect 2007 to mark the beginning of the end of desktop software development, http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/01/08/02FEspendappdev_1.html or http://tinyurl.com/yj34qv His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps within the browser is just missing the boat. He's confusing the implementation with the architecture, imo. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 13:58, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: snip In the meantime, his body built up so many tributaries that the bypass is no longer needed. His heart is back to an injection fraction of 48, with 50 being normal. Go figure. Human bodies are miraculous things. Hi Kristyne! That was very unusual. It is more correct to say Steve is miraculous. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
My mistake. I am running 2007 and it does happen to me. Version 2007 0.0.0-2006.06.22. They must have patched it at some point. Dave Crozier wrote: Richard, It certainly doesn't happen with the 2007 version so I gues they have fixed it. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Kaye Sent: 09 January 2007 14:34 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Another app broken by IE7 I finally bit the bullet recently and updated to IE7. When I tried to run WS-FTP 2006, I got a message box displaying the Word Never! and a yellow triangle. Like one of those things you see in the back pages of computer mags. For anyone using WS-FTP, this is a known issue. Here's the link on how to work around it http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/WS-20060811-SP01.htm -- Richard Kaye Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 Fax: 617.219.1001 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
repetitive SEEKs
I've got a table called HOLIDAYS that lists the days the company isn't working. I've got calls inside an iterative loop to see if a date exists. I'm wondering if I would be better off selecting the table into a local cursor, indexing that cursor, and then SEEKING on that instead of the network table. I could run exhaustive tests to come up with an answer, but wondered if others here had already experienced this kind of scenario and could advise from their past travels? Other information: - app built in VFP8 (eventually going to VFP9) - Win XP Pro operating system on client, probably W2K or NT mostly for servers - favorite food: chocolate peanut butter ice cream tia! --Michael -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: repetitive SEEKs
MB Software Solutions wrote: I've got a table called HOLIDAYS that lists the days the company isn't working. I've got calls inside an iterative loop to see if a date exists. I'm wondering if I would be better off selecting the table into a local cursor, indexing that cursor, and then SEEKING on that instead of the network table. I could run exhaustive tests to come up with an answer, but wondered if others here had already experienced this kind of scenario and could advise from their past travels? Other information: - app built in VFP8 (eventually going to VFP9) - Win XP Pro operating system on client, probably W2K or NT mostly for servers - favorite food: chocolate peanut butter ice cream tia! --Michael Since it sounds like Holidays is just a lookup table, why not load it into an array at app startup? Not much diff than a local cursor, but Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager Bike Friday - Performance that Packs. www.bikefriday.com 541/687-0487 x140 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: repetitive SEEKs
Matthew Jarvis wrote: Since it sounds like Holidays is just a lookup table, why not load it into an array at app startup? Not much diff than a local cursor, but True, and performance-wise I'm sure that'd be quick (if not the quickest!), but alas you've exposed me...I really don't like dealing with arrays as much. ;-) -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: repetitive SEEKs
MB Software Solutions wrote: Matthew Jarvis wrote: Since it sounds like Holidays is just a lookup table, why not load it into an array at app startup? Not much diff than a local cursor, but True, and performance-wise I'm sure that'd be quick (if not the quickest!), but alas you've exposed me...I really don't like dealing with arrays as much. ;-) Here's the segment of code in question: lnCtr = lnCtr + EVALUATE(tcCursor + .nEstimatedTime) - EVALUATE(tcCursor + .nActualTime) lnNumDaysFromNow = INT(lnCtr / tnMaxHrs) ldDate = DATE() starting date lnLoop = 0 DO WHILE lnLoop = lnNumDaysFromNow IF NOT(INLIST(DOW(ldDate),1,6) OR SEEK(ldDate,luHolidays,dDate)) THEN only count if not a weekend and not a holiday lnLoop = lnLoop + 1 ENDIF ldDate = ldDate + 1 ENDDO WHILE lnLoop = lnNumDaysFromNow REPLACE nTimeSpent WITH lnCtr, dExpected WITH ldDate ; IN (tcCursor) -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Pete, That was very unusual. It is more correct to say Steve is miraculous. Probably true. He was sent home after a triple bypass after just 4 days in the hospital. He survived flesh eating bacteria in his upper left chest area (i.e. can't amputate) after being all sliced up and going on full life support, and then going into septic shock. They all thought he was a goner and yet he lived. He came home in a wheelchair and the next day walked up the stairs by himself (very slowly). We sent the wheelchair back to the medical supply place. Everything has been really tough for him but he's still here and so many others that weren't anywhere near as sick as he was are dead. People we know in the Fox community even. All his old friends from high school are dead. It is so odd. Every day is another gift. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.emryldlife.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: repetitive SEEKs
Michael, My strategy would depend upon the following observations: 1. How many seeks do you need to do in succession? 2. Is there a fully optimized index on the table? a) Optimized index not available Individual seek on large numbers of data records would probably be slower in total elapsed time as opposed to the local select which would create a runtime one off SQL select temporary index b) Optimized index available I GUESS that individual seeks would be quicker as VFP could cache the index for subsequent seek calls 3. What is the total size of the record(s) holding the lookup fields you are seeking? Pulling large records back from the main table into a local cursor could take a long time and this would make the process appear to be slow as the initial select... would be slower than with small records 4. Can these date records be dynamically changed/modified.deleted by other users whilst you are processing the SQL cursor? If yes then the SQL methodology is not workable without a revalidation back to the main table when the Local Seek has been actioned 5. Do you need rollback capability on individual records after finding a valid date or after finding ALL valid dates? a) Local Select Method If you can process the local cursor records using a nested SQL command then using this method would lock the base tables for longer and may be inconvenient for other users of the system b)Individual seek Easy to roll back and minimal locks for other users. 6. If you want to show a progress indicator then the individual seek method make this easier. Personally, I use a combination of both techniques but using single seeks on the main table is the preferred technique (95% I guess) as (4) above normally makes the local cursor method impracticable. Hope these observations help. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: 09 January 2007 21:02 To: Profox Subject: repetitive SEEKs I've got a table called HOLIDAYS that lists the days the company isn't working. I've got calls inside an iterative loop to see if a date exists. I'm wondering if I would be better off selecting the table into a local cursor, indexing that cursor, and then SEEKING on that instead of the network table. I could run exhaustive tests to come up with an answer, but wondered if others here had already experienced this kind of scenario and could advise from their past travels? Other information: - app built in VFP8 (eventually going to VFP9) - Win XP Pro operating system on client, probably W2K or NT mostly for servers - favorite food: chocolate peanut butter ice cream tia! --Michael -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: repetitive SEEKs
MB Software Solutions wrote: Matthew Jarvis wrote: Since it sounds like Holidays is just a lookup table, why not load it into an array at app startup? Not much diff than a local cursor, but True, and performance-wise I'm sure that'd be quick (if not the quickest!), but alas you've exposed me...I really don't like dealing with arrays as much. ;-) Understood How about having an app property with the list of dates stored in a string, then your code can just be something like: if dtoc( ldDate) $ myapp.cHolidayList * - hot code goes here else * - sorry Charlie - your butt is working that day... endif Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager Bike Friday - Performance that Packs. www.bikefriday.com 541/687-0487 x140 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
Richard, I'm not at workat the minute but I'll find out the version of the 2007 program we are using tomorrow. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Kaye Sent: 09 January 2007 20:25 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7 My mistake. I am running 2007 and it does happen to me. Version 2007 0.0.0-2006.06.22. They must have patched it at some point. Dave Crozier wrote: Richard, It certainly doesn't happen with the 2007 version so I gues they have fixed it. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Kaye Sent: 09 January 2007 14:34 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Another app broken by IE7 I finally bit the bullet recently and updated to IE7. When I tried to run WS-FTP 2006, I got a message box displaying the Word Never! and a yellow triangle. Like one of those things you see in the back pages of computer mags. For anyone using WS-FTP, this is a known issue. Here's the link on how to work around it http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/WS-20060811-SP01.htm -- Richard Kaye Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 Fax: 617.219.1001 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: repetitive SEEKs
How about this? How about this? (new/changed code in blue/bold) SELECT luHolidays build a text list of the holiday dates SCAN STORE lcTextList_Dates + chr(13) + TRANS( dDate ) TO lcTextList_Dates ENDSCAN . . . lnCtr = lnCtr + EVALUATE(tcCursor + .nEstimatedTime) - EVALUATE(tcCursor + .nActualTime) lnNumDaysFromNow = INT(lnCtr / tnMaxHrs) ldDate = DATE() starting date lnLoop = 0 DO WHILE lnLoop = lnNumDaysFromNow IF NOT(INLIST(DOW(ldDate),1,6) OR TRANS(ldDate) + CHR(13) $ lcTextList_Dates,luHolidays,dDate)) THEN only count if not a weekend and not a holiday lnLoop = lnLoop + 1 ENDIF ldDate = ldDate + 1 ENDDO WHILE lnLoop = lnNumDaysFromNow REPLACE nTimeSpent WITH lnCtr, dExpected WITH ldDate ; IN (tcCursor) MB Software Solutions wrote: MB Software Solutions wrote: Matthew Jarvis wrote: Since it sounds like Holidays is just a lookup table, why not load it into an array at app startup? Not much diff than a local cursor, but True, and performance-wise I'm sure that'd be quick (if not the quickest!), but alas you've exposed me...I really don't like dealing with arrays as much. ;-) Here's the segment of code in question: lnCtr = lnCtr + EVALUATE(tcCursor + .nEstimatedTime) - EVALUATE(tcCursor + .nActualTime) lnNumDaysFromNow = INT(lnCtr / tnMaxHrs) ldDate = DATE() starting date lnLoop = 0 DO WHILE lnLoop = lnNumDaysFromNow IF NOT(INLIST(DOW(ldDate),1,6) OR SEEK(ldDate,luHolidays,dDate)) THEN only count if not a weekend and not a holiday lnLoop = lnLoop + 1 ENDIF ldDate = ldDate + 1 ENDDO WHILE lnLoop = lnNumDaysFromNow REPLACE nTimeSpent WITH lnCtr, dExpected WITH ldDate ; IN (tcCursor) -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
You ever notice life IS tough. I guess when you think about it, you start out immersed in blood and there's lots of pain and crying. How can we expect that to not continue! John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:20 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for? Pete, That was very unusual. It is more correct to say Steve is miraculous. Probably true. He was sent home after a triple bypass after just 4 days in the hospital. He survived flesh eating bacteria in his upper left chest area (i.e. can't amputate) after being all sliced up and going on full life support, and then going into septic shock. They all thought he was a goner and yet he lived. He came home in a wheelchair and the next day walked up the stairs by himself (very slowly). We sent the wheelchair back to the medical supply place. Everything has been really tough for him but he's still here and so many others that weren't anywhere near as sick as he was are dead. People we know in the Fox community even. All his old friends from high school are dead. It is so odd. Every day is another gift. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.emryldlife.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] -- Iraq articles
Lessons Not Learned http://www.govexec.com/features/0107-01/0107-01s1.htm Been There, Done That, Not Over It http://www.govexec.com/features/0107-01/0107-01na1.htm What's noteworthy is where these were published: Government Executive. Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: repetitive SEEKs
Excellent questions/points (as usual), Dave! My answers are inline below. Dave Crozier wrote: Michael, My strategy would depend upon the following observations: 1. How many seeks do you need to do in succession? Several. The process is to determine that it takes 'x' days to do a task, and then go from today forward to see when the expected date is, counting work days and not holidays or weekends. 2. Is there a fully optimized index on the table? b) Optimized index available I GUESS that individual seeks would be quicker as VFP could cache the index for subsequent seek calls Yes, there's a candidate index on the dDate field. 3. What is the total size of the record(s) holding the lookup fields you are seeking? Pulling large records back from the main table into a local cursor could take a long time and this would make the process appear to be slow as the initial select... would be slower than with small records I'd really only need to pull back the dDate field...the rest of the record is meaningless for this process. 4. Can these date records be dynamically changed/modified.deleted by other users whilst you are processing the SQL cursor? If yes then the SQL methodology is not workable without a revalidation back to the main table when the Local Seek has been actioned Great point, speaking to the freshness of the data...but for the most part, it should be static and not often updated. 5. Do you need rollback capability on individual records after finding a valid date or after finding ALL valid dates? Not applicable to this scenario. 6. If you want to show a progress indicator then the individual seek method make this easier. Ok. Personally, I use a combination of both techniques but using single seeks on the main table is the preferred technique (95% I guess) as (4) above normally makes the local cursor method impracticable. Hope these observations help. Thanks for your comments! --Michael -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: repetitive SEEKs
Matthew Jarvis wrote: Understood How about having an app property with the list of dates stored in a string, then your code can just be something like: if dtoc( ldDate) $ myapp.cHolidayList * - hot code goes here else * - sorry Charlie - your butt is working that day... endif Um, no, I'll pass on that one too. Sorry! But thanks for the ideas, Matt! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: repetitive SEEKs
Joe De Ville wrote: How about this? How about this? (new/changed code in blue/bold) SELECT luHolidays build a text list of the holiday dates SCAN STORE lcTextList_Dates + chr(13) + TRANS( dDate ) TO lcTextList_Dates ENDSCAN . . . lnCtr = lnCtr + EVALUATE(tcCursor + .nEstimatedTime) - EVALUATE(tcCursor + .nActualTime) lnNumDaysFromNow = INT(lnCtr / tnMaxHrs) ldDate = DATE() starting date lnLoop = 0 DO WHILE lnLoop = lnNumDaysFromNow IF NOT(INLIST(DOW(ldDate),1,7) OR TRANS(ldDate) + CHR(13) $ lcTextList_Dates,luHolidays,dDate)) THEN only count if not a weekend and not a holiday lnLoop = lnLoop + 1 ENDIF ldDate = ldDate + 1 ENDDO WHILE lnLoop = lnNumDaysFromNow REPLACE nTimeSpent WITH lnCtr, dExpected WITH ldDate ; IN (tcCursor) Hi Joe! Just so you know, the list only takes plain Jane vanilla text messages, and no HTML messages are shown, iirc. Thanks for the idea, but I'll pass on that one. I'm leaning towards just doing a SELECT dDate from MyLanHolidayTable into cursor MyLocalCursor and then indexing the dDate field and SEEKing on that. I think that might work the best. Also, after looking at my initial IF construct, I'd rather rewrite it from a theoretical standpoint as this, to aid in short-circuiting the evaluation should the first condition fail: IF NOT INLIST(DOW(ldDate),1,7) AND NOT SEEK(ldDate,luHolidays,dDate) I'm not a big fan of so many NOTs in an expression (as I think it's sometimes harder to read), but in this case, it's not so bad, and like I said...it'll most likely run faster since the first condition--if failed--would cause the program to abort the IF construct, if I'm not mistaken. (That's a purist debate some other time, perhaps!) I suppose I could have even did better with this: IF BETWEEN(DOW(ldDate),2,6) AND NOT SEEK(ldDate,luHolidays,dDate) g -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: repetitive SEEKs
Hi Michael I'd use http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~Weekdays~VFP to compute the number of weekdays (mon-friday no weekends) instead of looping like that. Blinding speed. Then I'd use a UDF to return the number of holidays between the two dates. The UDF could use a cursor opened at app start and an SQL command to count the holidays. Just exclude holidays that fall on weekends from the holidays table. By the way http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~SEEKvsASCAN~DotNet I don't bother with arrays in VFP much at all. Then your could would be REPLACE ; nTimeSpent WITH ; weekdays(m.ldDate,m.ldDate+m.lnNumDaysFromNow) ; - holidays(m.ldDate,m.ldDate+m.lnNumDaysFromNow),; dExpected WITH m.ldDate ; IN (tcCursor) You could go crazy and make a workdays function that combined those two functions too. HTH Message: 3 Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:16:04 -0500 From: MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: repetitive SEEKs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MB Software Solutions wrote: Matthew Jarvis wrote: Since it sounds like Holidays is just a lookup table, why not load it into an array at app startup? Not much diff than a local cursor, but True, and performance-wise I'm sure that'd be quick (if not the quickest!), but alas you've exposed me...I really don't like dealing with arrays as much. ;-) Here's the segment of code in question: lnCtr = lnCtr + EVALUATE(tcCursor + .nEstimatedTime) - EVALUATE(tcCursor + .nActualTime) lnNumDaysFromNow = INT(lnCtr / tnMaxHrs) ldDate = DATE() starting date lnLoop = 0 DO WHILE lnLoop = lnNumDaysFromNow IF NOT(INLIST(DOW(ldDate),1,6) OR SEEK(ldDate,luHolidays,dDate)) THEN only count if not a weekend and not a holiday lnLoop = lnLoop + 1 ENDIF ldDate = ldDate + 1 ENDDO WHILE lnLoop = lnNumDaysFromNow REPLACE nTimeSpent WITH lnCtr, dExpected WITH ldDate ; IN (tcCursor) -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
(sort of) FoxPro on Linux
So here's a question for ya... M$ makes a big stink about using VFP on a Linux platform, right? But Codeweaver is a company that does pretty much nothing but see to it that certain apps run on the Linux platform For example, MS Access in various flavours is listed as a supported product: http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?letter=all If MS let's Access play with the other kids, why not VFP? Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager Bike Friday - Performance that Packs. www.bikefriday.com 541/687-0487 x140 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (sort of) FoxPro on Linux
Matthew Jarvis wrote: So here's a question for ya... M$ makes a big stink about using VFP on a Linux platform, right? But Codeweaver is a company that does pretty much nothing but see to it that certain apps run on the Linux platform For example, MS Access in various flavours is listed as a supported product: http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?letter=all If MS let's Access play with the other kids, why not VFP? No one says they won't...they just give you the threatened feeling by the vague legalese, imo. -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VFP7: Not Enough Memory!
I am stuck on this error! I Packed the table that I thought had the problem but the error is still showing up. TIA! David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (sort of) FoxPro on Linux
Hey Matthew,
I'm one of the Advocates for VFP9 on Crossover Office (cxOffice) by
Codeweavers. cxOffice is a commercial wrapper for the WINE project that
makes it easier to install Windows software under Linux and the Mac.
Unfortunately VFP stopped working in cxOffice in version 4.2 but I keep
testing it when new versions come out.
I'd love to get VFP to work on Linux, even in emulation. However, I
think its time to look towards other development products on Linux such
as PHP, REALbasic, and {drum roll} Python/Dabo. M$ isn't going to help
VFP run on any other platform. It's sad that Foxpro used to run on DOS,
Windows, Unix and the Mac.
To Codeweavers credit, and the WINE team's credit, they're the ones that
did the hard work to get Access to run by emulating the Windows API.
Kevin Cully
CULLY Technologies, LLC
Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006!
http://foxforward.net
Matthew Jarvis wrote:
So here's a question for ya...
M$ makes a big stink about using VFP on a Linux platform, right?
But Codeweaver is a company that does pretty much nothing but see to it
that certain apps run on the Linux platform
For example, MS Access in various flavours is listed as a supported product:
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?letter=all
If MS let's Access play with the other kids, why not VFP?
Matthew S. Jarvis
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RE: VFP7: Not Enough Memory!
I've seen this caused by a corrupt index. Delete indexes and recreate them. Tracy -Original Message- From: David Crooks Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:16 PM I am stuck on this error! I Packed the table that I thought had the problem but the error is still showing up. TIA! David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (sort of) FoxPro on Linux
On Jan 9, 2007, at 5:02 PM, Matthew Jarvis wrote: M$ makes a big stink about using VFP on a Linux platform, right? Wrong. They have no problem with running VFP on anything. You can develop to your heart's content on Linux. They have a problem with distributing the runtime libraries to anything other than Windows, though. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (sort of) FoxPro on Linux
On 1/9/07, Matthew Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M$ makes a big stink about using VFP on a Linux platform, right? No, somebody (and it wasn't Whil) made a big stink about a 'Softie trying to lay down a chilling effect on Whil doing a demo on Linux for Windows. Stink rolled uphill and got lots of nice press, even a Slashdotting, irrc Search for Whil's 'Visual FoxPro, Linux and the Jack of Hearts' retelling of the tale... In my opinion, I don't think MS wanted to make any kind of a stink at all. I think they just wanted to whisper a threat at the right time and place. I suspect that they haven't got a legal leg to stand on. However, I'm not willing to spend time in court debating the issue. I'll choose vendors that want to accomodate where I want to go today. If MS let's Access play with the other kids, why not VFP? Does MS let Access? Or do they have a EULA as chilling as ours? -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
John, You ever notice life IS tough. I guess when you think about it, you start out immersed in blood and there's lots of pain and crying. How can we expect that to not continue! Did you ever notice that the most wimpy people tend to be the ones for whom life is actually EASIER? It just seems to me that most people that have successfully gone down a few bumpy roads are easier to get along with. They might still talk about the bumps a bit, but they don't tend to be serious whiners -- at least not in my experience. Kristyne ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
On Jan 9, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Did you ever notice that the most wimpy people tend to be the ones for whom life is actually EASIER? It just seems to me that most people that have successfully gone down a few bumpy roads are easier to get along with. That which doesn't kill me makes me stronger? I was reading a journal online the other day about a study of mothers who made sure that their kids were raised in a hyper-clean environment. No one was allowed to hold the babies unless they washed up first; the babies could only crawl on the floor a certain rooms that were cleaned daily, etc. Turns out that when these kids eventually go to school they end up being much, much more prone to getting sick, and when they do, they take longer to recover. Glad I made my kids sleep in a dumpster until they were 5! ;-) -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Life IS TOUGH... BUT you need to grin and bear it because no matter how bad it may seem at the time, you will make it through it as long as you don't give up. That’s why I get such a big kick out of people that KNOW all the answers. I too, used to be an arrogant ass. Between my divorce in 88 and my ex taking my kids to maine and making the decision to move back to texas in 94 so that I could pursue my goals and then going from making 2700 per week to 2700 per year, well it has taught me a few humbling lessons. I have an interview Thursday about 4 hrs from here for a 45,000 foxpro gig. I could be depressed because of that, but I personally think that will get my feet in the door if they offer it, and I'll work my way up the ladder from there. If it doesn’t materialize, something else will happen as long as I don't give up.. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't give upEVER...!!! Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:37 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for? You ever notice life IS tough. I guess when you think about it, you start out immersed in blood and there's lots of pain and crying. How can we expect that to not continue! John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:20 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for? Pete, That was very unusual. It is more correct to say Steve is miraculous. Probably true. He was sent home after a triple bypass after just 4 days in the hospital. He survived flesh eating bacteria in his upper left chest area (i.e. can't amputate) after being all sliced up and going on full life support, and then going into septic shock. They all thought he was a goner and yet he lived. He came home in a wheelchair and the next day walked up the stairs by himself (very slowly). We sent the wheelchair back to the medical supply place. Everything has been really tough for him but he's still here and so many others that weren't anywhere near as sick as he was are dead. People we know in the Fox community even. All his old friends from high school are dead. It is so odd. Every day is another gift. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.emryldlife.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
Ted Roche wrote: Expect 2007 to mark the beginning of the end of desktop software development, http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/01/08/02FEspendappdev_1.html or http://tinyurl.com/yj34qv His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps within the browser is just missing the boat. He's confusing the implementation with the architecture, imo. The artical as a whole doesn't have any substance to it. A lot of buzzwords, that's about it. In fact the more I read it the less it makes sense to me. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Anyone seem O3Spaces yet?
http://o3spaces.org/Page/sp3/nctrue/index.html Extending OpenOffice.org O3Spaces technology enhances OpenOffice.org and StarOffice with an integrated solution for Collaboration, Document Management and Document Retention within teams and small businesses. O3Spaces provides the OpenOffice 2.0 and StarOffice user community with a professional out-of-the-box extension for team and project collaboration, O3Spaces means an affordable and integrated alternative for MS Office Sharepoint. I found it doing sharepoint research for a new project I'm on. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 4:12 PM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Iraq articles
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 16:40, Bill Anderson wrote: Hi Bill! Interesting, thanks. Looks like the only thing that matters to most of the Iraqis is money. The only question is what is the most effective way to bribe them and keep them bribed. I didn't miss the part of the Iraqi guards gang raping the detainees and stealing their household goods. Lessons Not Learned http://www.govexec.com/features/0107-01/0107-01s1.htm Been There, Done That, Not Over It http://www.govexec.com/features/0107-01/0107-01na1.htm What's noteworthy is where these were published: Government Executive. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] SQL Server Management Studio Express
Rick Schummer wrote: Ok, what is slow? The time to start it up, or the time to change db's or servers and have all those objects in the IDE? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. (attempting my best to not sound sarcastic, but it is all slow) I want to reiterate, I am referring to the SQL Express version, not the regular version. I have no idea if they are the same or different code bases and have not used the one that comes with the standard, developer, or enterprise edition of SQL Server 2005. My experience is on one machine that is a couple of years old with *only* 512MB RAM. I have seen it demoed by presenters and it appeared slow on their machines as well. Hopefully it is addressed in the service packs. Ok. I'll say the RAM volume is your problem that can be overcome. I don't have SQL Express installed, just SQL 2005 Developer. I'm waiting on getting the Data Buddy or the team Foundation version of SS2005 for this new project I'm on. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 4:12 PM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] SQL Server Management Studio Express
MB Software Solutions wrote: Rick Schummer wrote: I don't think he was referring to SQL Server 2005. I believe he is referring to Management Studio for SQL Server *Express* is dog slow, even on latest and greatest hardware. It is a pig and should be considered an embarrassment to the SQL Server team. Since the Express is the free version (correct me if I'm mistaken), perhaps they've intentionally made it slow so as to make the non-free version more appealing? Just a WAG... In MSDE there was a governor. In 2005 Express it's been removed. The difference is that Express WON'T use multiple processors if present, and has an upper limit of ram, I think I remember 2 gig but who knows if that was just during the beta phase. So in Express they doubled the usable disk space, took away the concurrent user limit, and added much better security if your using AD. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 4:12 PM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!
Justin Darnell wrote: Should be interesting to see how Cingular exclusivity hinders adoption of that nifty looking iPhone. I thought that it was only me that the saw Cingular as the lame device company. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 4:12 PM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!
On Jan 9, 2007, at 8:27 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: I thought that it was only me that the saw Cingular as the lame device company. Why do you say that? (Besides obviously not being a Cingular customer). Besides, Cingular doesn't make the device; they provide the network. I got nothing but grief when I used Verizon. I've been happy with Cingular, especially since they merged with ATT. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 9, 2007, at 8:27 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: I thought that it was only me that the saw Cingular as the lame device company. Why do you say that? (Besides obviously not being a Cingular customer). Besides, Cingular doesn't make the device; they provide the network. I got nothing but grief when I used Verizon. I've been happy with Cingular, especially since they merged with ATT. Phone selection is my primary issue. The dead end selection is what I'm trying to get past at least around here. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 4:12 PM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
He can breath a sigh of relief now. --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pete, Whether I am a hottie or not is of no consequence to you or anyone else here. Who cares one way or another? I doubt you and I will ever meet, and if we do... Trust me, nothing is going to happen. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Unless you're ugly. --- Leland Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeap, give a problem a little time, and it will pass. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Regards, LelandJ Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Leland, Expectations created from imaginary fantasies based on emails should not create such reactions. How can someone become so in love with someone they have never physically meet? The kid was 17 years old. He built up an imaginary woman in his mind and reality could not compete with his imagination. Emotions are at their most raw when a person is a teenager, and I think teenage boys are more vulnerable than girls even though conventional wisdom says the opposite. There are a lot of suicides in the teen years over things that the rest of us all know are temporary problems. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
My girlfriend's friend from high school just lost her 17 yo son to suicide last week. The kid hanged himself. I wonder if all the Saddam talk gave him the idea. --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leland, Yeap, give a problem a little time, and it will pass. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. That's one of the best things parents and adults can help teens to understand. When you're a kid and everything seems to be so important, it is difficult to get an accurate fix on where your problems fit in with the rest of your life. If you don't have adults around that you respect and can talk to, you can wind up killing yourself over a temporary problem. It is easy to work yourself up when your emotions are raw. Steve taught high school and did a lot of suicide counseling with his students and others. He has an MA in human behavior and counseling, and a K-14 counseling credential, and did a lot of hours of training with Vietnam vets and battered women. For years he had kids calling him in the middle of the night when they were thinking of doing something stupid. As far as we know, none of the kids he counseled killed themselves. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Many of these kids are being brought up with no religion too. --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Yeap, give a problem a little time, and it will pass. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. That's one of the best things parents and adults can help teens to understand. When you're a kid and everything seems to be so important, it is difficult to get an accurate fix on where your problems fit in with the rest of your life. If you don't have adults around that you respect and can talk to, you can wind up killing yourself over a temporary problem. It is easy to work yourself up when your emotions are raw. While all of this is certainly true, it is also the case that clinical depression usually first manifests itself in these years. When someone has this condition, it doesn't matter how much talking is done, or how much you try to reason with the person. They are simply incapable of seeing things as being any different than they feel at that moment. People without depression who are going through tough emotional times can understand that it may pass and can imagine feeling better at some point in the future; people with depression simply cannot. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
I have a friend who has been on Zoloft for 15 years. She recently tried weening herself off under doctors supervision and the depression came back. So in her case it is completely a chemical imbalance, although it is triggered by events and situations. I have known at least 3 people that have been helped incredibly by Zoloft and Prozac. It's too bad more people don't seek help. --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 9, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: If that were true talk therapy would never work. 'Depression' is like 'cancer': a single word to describe a wide variety of problems that manifest themselves similarly. Chemical imbalances cannot be talked away. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
I agree because I've seen it. --- Helio W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you're wrong Kristyne, there's much scientific work behind these theories and plenty and strong evidence. And the brain IS a bio-chemical machine. From what I read, real science already buried most of classic psychoanalysis two decades ago. And in actuality what you said can be related to psychologists, who talk, talk, talk and when the patient improves (sometimes year and years after, if they don't commit suicide before) they theorize it is because the patient remembered and confronted a harmful experience from it's childhood that was buried deep inside her/his superego/ego/id or something like that. HW On 1/9/07, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's always going to be two points of view on that until medical sciences gets further along. The chemical imbalance theory is a theory without a lot of proof behind it yet. Doctors test out pills and people say they feel better. They theorize it is because a chemical imbalance was corrected. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
At least not without a latex glove. --- Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 09 January 2007 11:19, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Hi Kristyne! It was a joke - Mike was ragging you and I was just pointing out the other possibility. I wasn't trying to touch your nerves. Pete, Whether I am a hottie or not is of no consequence to you or anyone else -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 20:39, Michael Madigan wrote: He can breath a sigh of relief now. Hi Michael! It used to be that you could compliment a woman on her attractiveness without being seen to be implying that he wanted an improper relationship with her. This has changed in the last thirty years. Now, everything a man says is seen in a negative light. --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pete, Whether I am a hottie or not is of no consequence to you or anyone else here. Who cares one way or another? I doubt you and I will ever meet, and if we do... Trust me, nothing is going to happen. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
Michael Madigan wrote: He can breath a sigh of relief now. Now don't get jealous Mike. You know he belongs to you. --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pete, Whether I am a hottie or not is of no consequence to you or anyone else here. Who cares one way or another? I doubt you and I will ever meet, and if we do... Trust me, nothing is going to happen. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 21:21, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: He can breath a sigh of relief now. Now don't get jealous Mike. You know he belongs to you. Hi Ricardo! Following your line of logic, we know you belong to Helio. --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pete, Whether I am a hottie or not is of no consequence to you or anyone else -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!
ATT and Verizon are evil. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-6071780.html I switched to Working Assets... http://www.workingassetswireless.com/ Working Assets good. Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 9, 2007, at 8:27 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: I thought that it was only me that the saw Cingular as the lame device company. Why do you say that? (Besides obviously not being a Cingular customer). Besides, Cingular doesn't make the device; they provide the network. I got nothing but grief when I used Verizon. I've been happy with Cingular, especially since they merged with ATT. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!
MacWorld in S.F. looked pretty lively today. Lots of Mac Geeks. HUGE Apple display... No place to buy OSX or iMacs though... I guess Steve ordered them to look more corporate this year... We went there to buy OSX (pronounced Oz - Ex?) and some memory. No joy! Ed Leafe wrote: Long live Apple, Inc.! -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
