RE: [OT] Congressman says he doesn't believe in God

[Adam Buckland]

Love to be there to see your reaction when you get a Muslim elected to
Congress.



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Time to remove him from Congress.


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Re: Microsoft to release FoxPro ‘Sedna’ a s Shared Source

[Alan Bourke]

> Microsoft has said there will be no VFP 10.0; 9.0 is the end of the
> Microsoft VFP line

Why mess with perfection ? :)



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Re: [NF] French MPs using linux

[Alan Bourke]

Andrew Stirling wrote:
> "When French MPs and their assistants return from their summer break 
> this June, they will conduct parliamentary business on PCs running 
> Ubuntu. From the next session of parliament, 1,154 desks will feature 
> the Linux-based PCs."
>
> http://software.silicon.com/os/0,39024651,39166298,00.htm?r=1
>
>   
Linux-using surrender monkeys!


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Re: [OT] Congressman says he doesn't believe in God

[Pete Theisen]

On Wednesday 14 March 2007 4:32 am, Adam Buckland wrote:

Hi Adam!

Actually, they have that Barak Obama guy already.  His father was a Muslim but 
later became an atheist.

> Love to be there to see your reaction when you get a Muslim elected to
> Congress.
>
>> Time to remove him from Congress.
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RE: [NF] French MPs using linux

[Dave Crozier]

Alan,
Its only a matter of time before they change the spelling to Linuxe as they
did with concord(e) 

Dave Crozier


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Andrew Stirling wrote:
> "When French MPs and their assistants return from their summer break 
> this June, they will conduct parliamentary business on PCs running 
> Ubuntu. From the next session of parliament, 1,154 desks will feature 
> the Linux-based PCs."
>
> http://software.silicon.com/os/0,39024651,39166298,00.htm?r=1
>
>   
Linux-using surrender monkeys!


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[OT] Captain Halliburton to the Rescue!!

[Ed Leafe]

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0711,sutton,76029,9.html

"All-Talk Avengers" - perfect name for them!


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Re: [NF] French MPs using linux

[Ed Leafe]

On Mar 14, 2007, at 6:41 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

> Its only a matter of time before they change the spelling to Linuxe  
> as they
> did with concord(e) 

Or like Leaf(e)... oh wait...

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[OT] Selective History

[Ed Leafe]

Bush has taken to saying that his efforts in Iraq may not be popular  
now, but that history will be the judge of what he has done. That  
sounds great, but the problem is that if Bush gets his way, history  
will be only what he decides it will be.

http://www.masslive.com/editorials/republican/index.ssf?/base/ 
news-1/117377387965210.xml&coll=1
( -or- http://tinyurl.com/2oc8ax )

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
On Nov. 1, 2001, less than two months after the attacks, Bush issued  
an executive order that allows former presidents to keep some of  
their papers secret indefinitely.

This executive order violates the Presidential Records Act of 1978,  
legislation that guarantees public access to papers 12 years after a  
president has left office.

The House of Representatives is scheduled to vote today on a  
bipartisan bill to overturn the executive order so that Bush and  
future presidents will not be able to write their own political  
histories by releasing only those papers, e-mails and other  
communications that put them in the most favorable light.

The executive order also allows former vice presidents to stop the  
release of their papers, which means the Vice President Dick Cheney -  
perhaps the most powerful and secretive second-in-command in the  
nation's history - will be able to influence his own legacy as well.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -



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Re: [OT] Captain Halliburton to the Rescue!!

[Pete Theisen]

On Wednesday 14 March 2007 5:53 am, Ed Leafe wrote:
> http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0711,sutton,76029,9.html
>
> "All-Talk Avengers" - perfect name for them!

Hi Ed!

Remarkable what you believe in. An article in the (print) Weekly Standard a 
while ago summed it up pretty well. It is on line, but you have to subscribe, 
I read a second-hand paper copy..

Plame wasn't undercover, and had not been for a while. Furthermore, some guy 
named Armitage was the source of the leak, not anyone in the administration. 
Finally, Fitzgerald knew all this, but carried out his malicious prosecution 
anyway. Typical.

Libby is in trouble not for being evil, but for playing into Fitzgerald's 
hands. It will no doubt be reversed on appeal. Much ado about nothing.
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Re: [OT] Selective History

[Pete Theisen]

On Wednesday 14 March 2007 6:08 am, Ed Leafe wrote:
>   Bush has taken to saying that his efforts in Iraq may not be popular
> now, but that history will be the judge of what he has done. That
> sounds great, but the problem is that if Bush gets his way, history
> will be only what he decides it will be.

Hi Ed!

He is doing it to protect the Great Adulterer, not for himself. That, and who 
really wants to know what Kennedy was up to? Not to even mention MacBird or 
Mr. Peanut  .  .  .
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RE: [ot] joke

[Jim Felton]

Version 2

NEW SUPERMARKET SURROUND-SOUND
The new supermarket near my house has an automatic water mister to keep the
produce fresh. Just before it goes on, you hear the sound of distant thunder
and the smell of fresh rain.

When you approach the milk cases, you hear cows mooing and witness the scent
of fresh hay.

When you approach the egg case, you hear hens cluck and cackle and the air
is filled with the pleasing aroma of bacon and eggs frying.

The veggie department features the smell of fresh buttered corn.

And as I approached the famine care products aisle. The sound of a woman
telling her husband just how useless he is and aroma of Summers Eve.

Jim

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NEW SUPERMARKET SURROUND-SOUND
The new supermarket near my house has an automatic water mister to keep the
produce fresh. Just before it goes on, you hear the sound of distant thunder
and the smell of fresh rain.

When you approach the milk cases, you hear cows mooing and witness the scent
of fresh hay.

When you approach the egg case, you hear hens cluck and cackle and the air
is filled with the pleasing aroma of bacon and eggs frying.

The veggie department features the smell of fresh buttered corn.

I don't buy toilet paper there any more.


Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

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them absolutely no good."
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[OT] Max Cleland tells it like it is

[Ed Leafe]

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"Vice President Cheney trotted out the same old talking point about  
how any sort of timetable will just cause the "enemy" to "wait us  
out." When asked for his response to this, former Senator (and war  
hero) Max Cleland had some tough words for the draft-dodging and  
warmongering Veep.

Cleland: "Where the hell were you in the Vietnam War? If you had  
gone to Vietnam like the rest of us, maybe you would have learned  
something about war. You can't keep troops on the ground forever. You  
gotta have a mission. You gotta have a purpose."
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http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/12/cleland-to-cheney-where-the- 
hell-were-you-in-the-vietnam-war/
( -or- http://tinyurl.com/3ycnnq )

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Re: Microsoft to release FoxPro ‘Sedna’ a s Shared Source

[Kevin Cully]

YAG makes the official comment on his blog:  Message to the VFP
Community at http://tinyurl.com/29yryg

It’s been a great time, and VFP will continue to support me for a long
time.  M$ bought Fox when it was in version 2.6 and at that time, it ran
on Unix, DOS, Mac, and Windows.  Now, Visual Foxpro only runs on
Windows,  but we're also on VFP 9.0!

I wished they didn't say that there wouldn't be a VFP 10 even though I
always knew there wouldn't be another version.  I just don’t want to
scare my customers.

In the mean time, I’ve got FoxForward to help implement.  It should be
interesting with Sedna having just come out, and no VFP 10 to speculate
about.  For development, I’m going to focus on learning REALbasic and Dabo.

Helio W. wrote:
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=320
> Mary Jo Foley
> 
> "At the Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) Summit in Seattle
> this week, Microsoft officials shared Shared Source news with the
> Visual FoxPro faithful and other attendees. The latest: Microsoft
> plans to release by the end of this summer the Foxpro "Sedna" bits as
> Shared Source on its CodePlex code-repository site.




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Re: [NF] French MPs using linux

[Vince Teachout]

Dave Crozier wrote:
> Alan,
> Its only a matter of time before they change the spelling to Linuxe as they
> did with concord(e) 

Dang, I was hoping for Linoux.


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Re: [NF] French MPs using linux

[Kevin Cully]

Linux, Linuxe, Linoux.  Just don't call me Trusted Computing to my face.
 That's insulting my intelligence. 

Vince Teachout wrote:
> Dave Crozier wrote:
>> Alan,
>> Its only a matter of time before they change the spelling to Linuxe as they
>> did with concord(e) 
> 
> Dang, I was hoping for Linoux.
> 
> 
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Class library causing compile error

[John J. Mihaljevic]

Hi all,

I've got some classes in a library called "myclasses.vcx."  When I first
start VFP9, I can modify my project, compile, and life is good.  But any
other time I go back into the project to make changes, I get the following
error when building:

> Compiling c:\mercer9\myclasses.vcx
> File c:\mercer9\myclasses.vcx is in use and cannot be recompiled.

I have to close and restart VFP to be able to compile again.

Any ideas what may be causing this and how I can prevent it?

Thanks!

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RE: Class library causing compile error

[Dave Crozier]

Joun,
Look at Release Classlib

Dave Crozier


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Hi all,

I've got some classes in a library called "myclasses.vcx."  When I first
start VFP9, I can modify my project, compile, and life is good.  But any
other time I go back into the project to make changes, I get the following
error when building:

> Compiling c:\mercer9\myclasses.vcx
> File c:\mercer9\myclasses.vcx is in use and cannot be recompiled.

I have to close and restart VFP to be able to compile again.

Any ideas what may be causing this and how I can prevent it?

Thanks!

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Re: Class library causing compile error

[Alan Bourke]

I get this with VFP9 as well, and releasing the classlib doesn't work. 
Pain in the bum.


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VFP6 won't start properly

[Matthew Jarvis]

In all my years I've never seen this one before...

Running VFP6 on a Win98 box for quite about a year or more w/o any 
problems...

Was in it this morning importing an XLS into a table, VFP crashed... I 
rebooted the machine and now VFP won't start.

I see the splash screen and the task is shown as minimized on the 
taskbar, but clicking it does nothing. Can't switch to it either... Task 
Manager shows it as running...

Clicking the EXE directly rather than the shortcut I had been using - 
same thing.

Deleted the FoxUser table and FPT - same thing. Rebooted again - same 
thing... Ran scandisk, rebooted, same thing...

I'm stumped... anyone seen this before and/or have any suggestions? I'd 
rather avoid trying to reinstall...


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Re: Microsoft to release FoxPro ‘Sedna’ a s Shared Source

[Matthew Jarvis]

MB Software Solutions wrote:
> Helio W. wrote:
> 
>>Microsoft will continue supporting VFP through 2015, as planned.
>>Microsoft has said there will be no VFP 10.0; 9.0 is the end of the
>>Microsoft VFP line, in spite of the fact that there remains a large
>>and vibrant FoxPro user base. "
>>  
> 
> 
> Well, "end of the Microsoft VFP line" is pretty clear.  8 years more 
> officially.  ;-)
> 


Remember this day my friends...

The King is dead... Long live the King!!

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RE: VFP6 won't start properly

[Lou Syracuse]

Is it VFP itself, or a VFP-created application?

If it is the latter, does the application using any Active-X controls?  I've
seen this exact behavior in one of our POS applications, where an OCX is
missing, damaged or not registered.   Only one of the four EXE files in the
suite does that though, strange.

Just a WAG, your mileage may vary.

Lou



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In all my years I've never seen this one before...

Running VFP6 on a Win98 box for quite about a year or more w/o any
problems...

Was in it this morning importing an XLS into a table, VFP crashed... I
rebooted the machine and now VFP won't start.

I see the splash screen and the task is shown as minimized on the taskbar,
but clicking it does nothing. Can't switch to it either... Task Manager
shows it as running...

Clicking the EXE directly rather than the shortcut I had been using - same
thing.

Deleted the FoxUser table and FPT - same thing. Rebooted again - same
thing... Ran scandisk, rebooted, same thing...

I'm stumped... anyone seen this before and/or have any suggestions? I'd
rather avoid trying to reinstall...
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Re: VFP6 won't start properly

[Matthew Jarvis]

Lou Syracuse wrote:
> Is it VFP itself, or a VFP-created application?
> 
> If it is the latter, does the application using any Active-X controls?  I've
> seen this exact behavior in one of our POS applications, where an OCX is
> missing, damaged or not registered.   Only one of the four EXE files in the
> suite does that though, strange.
> 
> Just a WAG, your mileage may vary.
> 
> Lou
> 

Just VFP...

I just use it as a data manipulation tool - no apps in play...

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Re: Windows Shutdown Routine

[Philip B]

Another way is programmatically:
=WinShutDown(67)

*-*
*- Procedure WinShutdown(pn_exittype)
*-  Exit or Exit and Restart Windows
*\-- pn_exittype:
*  66=exit and restart
*  67=exit for good
*-*
PROCEDURE winshutdown

LPARAMETER pn_exittype

IF TYPE("pn_exittype") <> "N"
pn_exittype= 66
ENDIF

DECLARE INTEGER ExitWindowsEx IN user32 INTEGER, INTEGER

lnexitwindows=ExitWindowsEx(pn_exittype,0)

ENDPROC
*-*


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>I am using the code provided by Vassilis to mirror the contents of a drive
>to another network drive.  I then need to shutdown the PC, similar to Nero
>when it does a backup then shuts the system down.  Any suggestions
>gratefully received.
>
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RE: Class library causing compile error

[Tracy]

I loop the project a few times releasing each class library, via a menu call
to this:

PROCEDURE ClearClassLibs
   LOCAL lnCount
   lnCount = 0
   DO WHILE DoClearClassLibs()
  *-- We don't want to get stuck in a loop
  lnCount = lnCount + 1 
  IF lnCount > 10
 EXIT
  ENDIF 
   ENDDO 
ENDPROC

PROCEDURE DoClearClassLibs
   LOCAL llRerun, lcQuickTestCursor
   llRerun = .F.
   lcQuickTestCursor = SYS(2015)
   IF TYPE("_VFP.ActiveProject") = "O" AND NOT ISNULL(_VFP.ActiveProject)
  FOR ii = 1 TO _vfp.ActiveProject.Files.count
IF _vfp.ActiveProject.Files.Item(ii).type = "V"
CLEAR CLASSLIB (_vfp.ActiveProject.Files.Item(ii).Name)
IF NOT llRerun
   TRY 
  *-- Test the availablity of the classlib
  USE (_vfp.ActiveProject.Files.Item(ii).Name) IN 0
EXCLUSIVE ALIAS (lcQuickTestCursor)
  USE IN SELECT(lcQuickTestCursor)
   CATCH
  llRerun = .T.
   ENDTRY
ENDIF 
 ENDIF
  NEXT 
   ENDIF
   RETURN llRerun
ENDPROC

-Original Message-
From: Alan Bourke
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:02 PM

I get this with VFP9 as well, and releasing the classlib doesn't work. 
Pain in the bum.



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RE: VFP6 won't start properly

[Tracy Pearson]

Add a -A to the shortcut to see if it starts.

Can you right-click the taskbar item, and select Move? It might be an Open
Window that is off the screen. I've seen this happens with the
_SCREEN.Visible = .F.

HTH,

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:26 PM

In all my years I've never seen this one before...

Running VFP6 on a Win98 box for quite about a year or more w/o any
problems...

Was in it this morning importing an XLS into a table, VFP crashed... I
rebooted the machine and now VFP won't start.

I see the splash screen and the task is shown as minimized on the taskbar,
but clicking it does nothing. Can't switch to it either... Task Manager
shows it as running...

Clicking the EXE directly rather than the shortcut I had been using - same
thing.

Deleted the FoxUser table and FPT - same thing. Rebooted again - same
thing... Ran scandisk, rebooted, same thing...

I'm stumped... anyone seen this before and/or have any suggestions? I'd
rather avoid trying to reinstall...


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[NF] Stop making fun of them. It's not nice.

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Politically incorrect comparison of MSFT and Apple users.

http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=10-011907L&y=2007&m=03&t=jpg&rand=5883&srv=img3

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Re: VFP6 won't start properly

[Matthew Jarvis]

Tracy Pearson wrote:
> Add a -A to the shortcut to see if it starts.
> 
> Can you right-click the taskbar item, and select Move? It might be an Open
> Window that is off the screen. I've seen this happens with the
> _SCREEN.Visible = .F.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Tracy
> 

Okay - I'm in... It never occurred to me to clcik the taskbar icon and 
select "maximize"...

Doh!!

That seems to have done the trick...

Muchos gracias for the kick to the head...  

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RE: [OT] Congressman says he doesn't believe in God

[Michael Madigan]

Pay attention, we have one of those already.


--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Love to be there to see your reaction when you get a
> Muslim elected to
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> Time to remove him from Congress.
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Re: [OT] Congressman says he doesn't believe in God

[Michael Madigan]

And Keith Ellison, scumbag Muslim from Minnesota


--- Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wednesday 14 March 2007 4:32 am, Adam Buckland
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Adam!
> 
> Actually, they have that Barak Obama guy already. 
> His father was a Muslim but 
> later became an atheist.
> 
> > Love to be there to see your reaction when you get
> a Muslim elected to
> > Congress.
> >
> >> Time to remove him from Congress.
> -- 
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Re: [OT] Max Cleland tells it like it is

[Michael Madigan]

Who cares what "stumpy" has to say?




--- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - -
>   "Vice President Cheney trotted out the same old
> talking point about  
> how any sort of timetable will just cause the
> "enemy" to "wait us  
> out." When asked for his response to this, former
> Senator (and war  
> hero) Max Cleland had some tough words for the
> draft-dodging and  
> warmongering Veep.
> 
>   Cleland: "Where the hell were you in the Vietnam
> War? If you had  
> gone to Vietnam like the rest of us, maybe you would
> have learned  
> something about war. You can't keep troops on the
> ground forever. You  
> gotta have a mission. You gotta have a purpose."
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - -
> 
>
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/12/cleland-to-cheney-where-the-
> 
> hell-were-you-in-the-vietnam-war/
> ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/3ycnnq )
> 
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Re: [OT] Max Cleland tells it like it is

[Michael Madigan]

I hear Cleland is playing second base for the NY
Yankees this year.  I mean he's actually playing
second base.



--- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - -
>   "Vice President Cheney trotted out the same old
> talking point about  
> how any sort of timetable will just cause the
> "enemy" to "wait us  
> out." When asked for his response to this, former
> Senator (and war  
> hero) Max Cleland had some tough words for the
> draft-dodging and  
> warmongering Veep.
> 
>   Cleland: "Where the hell were you in the Vietnam
> War? If you had  
> gone to Vietnam like the rest of us, maybe you would
> have learned  
> something about war. You can't keep troops on the
> ground forever. You  
> gotta have a mission. You gotta have a purpose."
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - -
> 
>
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/12/cleland-to-cheney-where-the-
> 
> hell-were-you-in-the-vietnam-war/
> ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/3ycnnq )
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
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Re: [NF] Stop making fun of them. It's not nice.

[Michael Madigan]

Apple sure has the douche bag mac user down to a tee. 
That's the guy who always comes up to me during an
installation.  "My mac can do this, my mac can do
that".  So why are you working in a PC shop then,
douche bag?  It seems they're always effeminate too.



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> Politically incorrect comparison of MSFT and Apple
> users.
> 
>
http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=10-011907L&y=2007&m=03&t=jpg&rand=5883&srv=img3
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Re: [NF] Stop making fun of them. It's not nice.

[Michael Madigan]

Apple sure has the douche bag mac user down to a tee. 
That's the guy who always comes up to me during an
installation.  "My mac can do this, my mac can do
that".  So why are you working in a PC shop then,
douche bag?  It seems they're always effeminate too.



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> Politically incorrect comparison of MSFT and Apple
> users.
> 
>
http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=10-011907L&y=2007&m=03&t=jpg&rand=5883&srv=img3
> 
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[NF] To Infinity and beyond!

[srussell]

very cool site.


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Re: [NF] Stop making fun of them. It's not nice.

[Ed Leafe]

On Mar 14, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:

> Politically incorrect comparison of MSFT and Apple users.

I found it interesting that PC users tend to see the characters as  
representing users, instead of the actual machines. When the ads poke  
fun at the PC, they take it personally.

"I'm a Mac." "And I'm a PC."

Not: "I'm a Mac User." "And I'm a PC User."

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RE: [OT] And the saga continues ...

[Kristyne McDaniel]

Steve is coming home tomorrow!!!

Still no go on the contractor/house issues...

Kristyne McDaniel




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[NF] -- Small Software Developer Challenges Microsoft And Google With Free Operating System

[Bill Anderson]

"In the third quarter, a little-known Swedish software company plans to 
release a free operating system with the potential to radically alter 
the economics of software development. If successful, Xcerion could 
erode the power Microsoft derives from controlling the desktop, beat 
Google at its software-as-a-service play, and make commodity Linux boxes 
more viable as a platform for the masses."

"Watch it in action and you'll see the threat it poses to Windows: 
Double-click on XIOS and the familiar desktop interface appears inside 
the browser window. Expand the browser window in full-screen mode and 
the Windows desktop vanishes beneath it. Of course, the XIOS environment 
could just as easily look like the Mac OS desktop or something else 
entirely. This is what Microsoft feared Netscape would do--turn its main 
asset, the operating system, into middleware."





Another mention at:





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Re: Microsoft to release Fox Pro ‘Sedna’ as Shared Source

[Ted Roche]

On 3/14/07, Matthew Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Remember this day my friends...
>
> The King is dead... Long live the King!!
>

So, there you have it. It's been a heck of a run. Thanks to all for
all the fun and best wishes to you.

I started with FoxBase/dBASE/Clipper, went all Fox in '88 and ran with
it exclusively through '98 (changing jobs, states, marital status,
jobs, MVP Awards, jobs, books, jobs, magazine columns and jobs). In
'98, I started working with Red Hat and saw the light. My company is
still supporting Fox 6 through 9 applications and may even get some of
that cool SednaX stuff in there. But now we owe it to our clients to
work to ensure their transition to the NextGen thing is smooth. Sounds
like another busy decade.

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[NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live

[Bill Anderson]

"Ray Ozzie, Microsoft's incoming chief software architect, left one 
important detail out of his Goldman Sachs Technology Investment 
Symposium presentation this week: Windows Live.

The omission—stark contrast to his last public speech—forebodes about 
Windows Live's future as a brand. The substantial content of the Goldman 
Sachs presentation is similar to Ozzie's talk during Microsoft's annual 
financial analysts meeting last July. But in the earlier speech, Ozzie 
mentioned "Windows Live" about 20 times. During this week's 
presentation, he mentioned Windows Live not at all.

The question is, why?"

"We expect Windows Live will be gone by the end of the year," said Paul 
DeGroot, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft."







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[OT] Gonzales: 'Mistakes Were Made'

[Ed Leafe]

Doncha love the passive voice? There is a world of difference  
between saying "I made a mistake" and "mistakes were made".

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales took responsibility yesterday  
for "mistakes" related to the firing of eight U.S. attorneys last  
year but rejected calls for his resignation from Democrats who accuse  
him of misleading Congress.

"I acknowledge that mistakes were made here. I accept that  
responsibility," Gonzales said. He said he did not know the details  
of the plan to fire the prosecutors, but he defended the dismissals:  
"I stand by the decision, and I think it was a right decision."

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


Question: what does "accepting responsibility" mean? Does it mean  
anything anymore? I can just imagine if I deliberately cheated on my  
tax return, got caught, and said to the judge "Mistakes were made. I  
accept that responsibility". Does that mean that I now go unpunished?  
That I should expect not to have to pay a price for being responsible  
for those mistakes?

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Re: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live

[Ed Leafe]

On Mar 14, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:

> "We expect Windows Live will be gone by the end of the year," said  
> Paul
> DeGroot, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft."

Great news! That means that we will have yet another killer  
technology bandwagon from Microsoft to jump on! And we get to throw  
away all of the time we spent learning to work with Live.

I mean, everyone else *did* believe Microsoft when they told us that  
this was the future, right? I'm not the only one?  ;-)

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Re: [OT] Gonzales: 'Mistakes Were Made'

[Ed Leafe]

Forgot the URL for the last post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/13/ 
AR2007031300776.html?nav=rss_print/asection
( -or- http://tinyurl.com/yu95lm )

And while we're on the Gonzales scandal, here's another juicy tidbit:

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Attorney General Alberto Gonzales faced the cameras for all of nine  
minutes yesterday, but he managed to contradict himself at least four  
times as he fought off calls to resign over the firing of U.S.  
attorneys.

"Mistakes were made," he said in fluent scandalese, but "I think it  
was the right decision."

"I am responsible for what happens at the Department of Justice," he  
posited, but "I . . . was not involved in any discussions about what  
was going on."

"Kyle Sampson" -- Gonzales's chief of staff -- "has resigned," he  
said, but "he is still at the department."

And, finally, "I believe in the independence of our U.S. attorneys,"  
Gonzales maintained, but "all political appointees can be  
removed . . . for any reason."

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This is from another URL:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/13/ 
AR2007031301515.html?nav=rss_print/asection
( -or- http://tinyurl.com/24trga )

More great stuff from that article:

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"Reserved" was not the picture that came to mind on the other side of  
the Capitol, where House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers  
called his own news conference to hand out copies of the e-mails the  
administration had just given him.

"The documents: Ta-da!" Conyers said, waving a sheaf in the air. The  
event was hastily prepared (aides didn't have a congressional seal,  
so they improvised by pasting a paper one to the lectern), and  
Conyers confessed that "we haven't even read all the documents we're  
releasing yet."

Reporters were happy to help. They besieged a woman carrying a box  
labeled "Xerox," elbowing one another to grab still-warm bundles of e- 
mails. It didn't take much searching of them to find evidence of the  
political nature of the firings and the White House's role.

"WH leg, political, and communications have signed off," deputy White  
House counsel William Kelley wrote to Sampson and then-White House  
counsel Harriet Miers in December 2006. Other e-mails, from Sampson,  
had him "waiting for a green light from the White House" and asking  
Miers and Kelley to circulate the firing plan to Karl Rove's "shop."

"This is incredible," judged Conyers as he read a few passages to  
reporters. The chairman seemed torn between gravitas ("we are not  
trying to create a sideshow") and giddiness ("I don't want this to be  
my last press conference on the subject").

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Re: [OT] Captain Halliburton to the Rescue!!

[Jerry Wolper]

Pete said:

> An article in the (print) Weekly Standard a while ago
> summed it up pretty well Plame wasn't undercover, 
> and had not been for a while.

Even if she wasn't at that point, it's possible that revealing that 
she once was undercover compromised some of the contacts she made 
when she was.

> Furthermore, some guy named Armitage was the source of the leak,
> not anyone in the administration.

Armitage was an official in the State Department. And just because he 
was Novak's first source (Karl Rove was the second) doesn't mean that 
anybody else knew that he leaked it, or that they had carte blanche 
to release the information about Plame even if they knew about the 
first leak.

If a Democratic administration had leaked the name of an agent, we'd 
never hear the end of people like the Weekly Standard telling us how 
it showed that Democrats don't care about national security. But when 
Republicans do it, going after them is a "malicious prosecution." 
Maybe they should be the Weekly Double Standard.

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RE: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live

[mrgmhale]

>   I mean, everyone else *did* believe Microsoft when they
> told us that
> this was the future, right? I'm not the only one?  ;-)

I should sue the bastards!  I changed my entire strategic direction last
year and pushed real hard to cut all of my interfaces over to the M$ Live
technology environment, sang the praises of M$ Live to all who would listen,
prepared all kinds of technology overview documentation for my clients, gave
presentations across the USA on how this would turn my clients' business
processes on edge, promised all kinds of cool new things to save my clients
money.  So, this is the committed thanks I get from M$!  Gawd!  Another year
burned off and nothing to show for it...  I know, I will just wait for their
Next Big Thing.  Yeah, let me try "this other" new & improved kool-aid
now...  Maybe this time M$ will be telling the truth re: their commitment to
their FUD-ware.

Nothing new, same old crap.  It seems those of us that were around long
enough to remember the "Great .Com Technology Explosion" are not being
listened to by the folks who pull the investment purse-strings and pay for
our services, and viewed as nay-sayers by the new, naive pups coming into
the work force.  I wonder how many folks burned off a large investment
chasing the M$ Live hallucination, and really can't afford to lose that
investment.  I suppose that is why I avoid being on the  "Bleeding Edge",
eh?

If I tried to get away with this kind of thing, promising features to help
retain and gain clients, I would be sued and screwed three ways to Sunday,
and rightfully so.  There would be no surviving.  Yet, who dares to speak
against the beast?  Then again, this is still quite pervasive in our
industry.  Vaporware, FUD-ware, promises in the dark 


Gil



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Leafe
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:
>
> > "We expect Windows Live will be gone by the end of the year," said
> > Paul
> > DeGroot, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft."
>
>   Great news! That means that we will have yet another killer
> technology bandwagon from Microsoft to jump on! And we get to throw
> away all of the time we spent learning to work with Live.
>
>   I mean, everyone else *did* believe Microsoft when they
> told us that
> this was the future, right? I'm not the only one?  ;-)
>
> -- Ed Leafe
> -- http://leafe.com
> -- http://dabodev.com
>
>
>
>
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Re: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Mar 14, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:
> 
>> "We expect Windows Live will be gone by the end of the year," said  
>> Paul
>> DeGroot, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft."
> 
>   Great news! That means that we will have yet another killer  
> technology bandwagon from Microsoft to jump on! And we get to throw  
> away all of the time we spent learning to work with Live.

Maybe it'd be better to stick with something that's been dead for a 
decade. Didn't Winchell spill the beans about Fox being killed off by 
MSFT 12 or 13 years ago? He hit the nail on the head, eh?

Even with 3 years off doing nothing but publishing, and half my time 
doing LAMP stuff now, I've spent over 20,000 hours on Fox-related stuff, 
15,000 of them billable, since the "Fox is dead" rumours started.

Bet I spend another 10,000 in over the next decade and a half, and it'll 
ALL be billable, since there won't be any of that silly "learning 
ActiveDocs" crap they tried to shove down our throat...

Whil


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Re: [OT] Congressman says he doesn't believe in God

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Time to remove him from Congress.
> 

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
That was a good one Mikey!

> 
> --- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-atheist13mar13,0,7008061.story?track=ntothtml
>> " Secular groups Monday applauded a public
>> acknowledgment by Rep. Pete
>> Stark that he does not believe in a supreme being,
>> making the Fremont
>> Democrat the first member of Congress — and the
>> highest-ranking
>> elected official in the U.S. — to publicly
>> acknowledge not believing
>> in God. "
>>


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Re: [OT] Gonzales: 'Mistakes Were Made'

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Ed Leafe wrote:
>   Doncha love the passive voice? There is a world of difference  
> between saying "I made a mistake" and "mistakes were made".
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales took responsibility yesterday  
> for "mistakes" related to the firing of eight U.S. attorneys last  
> year but rejected calls for his resignation from Democrats who accuse  
> him of misleading Congress.
> 
> "I acknowledge that mistakes were made here. I accept that  
> responsibility," Gonzales said. He said he did not know the details  
> of the plan to fire the prosecutors, but he defended the dismissals:  
> "I stand by the decision, and I think it was a right decision."
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 
> 
>   Question: what does "accepting responsibility" mean? Does it mean  
> anything anymore? I can just imagine if I deliberately cheated on my  
> tax return, got caught, and said to the judge "Mistakes were made. I  
> accept that responsibility". Does that mean that I now go unpunished?  
> That I should expect not to have to pay a price for being responsible  
> for those mistakes?
> 

Worse still, if he acknowledges 'mistakes were made' then how can he
still 'think it was a right decision'. Is he dumb? Or does he think the
public is dumb? (Well, maybe he's talking to Mike, and the likes)


> -- Ed Leafe
> -- http://leafe.com
> -- http://dabodev.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[OT] Want to support the troops?

[Ed Leafe]

Get them out of that hellhole as soon as possible!

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/ 
pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003558239
( -or- http://tinyurl.com/2rgxhq )

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Col. Ted Westhusing, a West Point scholar, put a bullet in his head  
in Iraq after reporting widespread corruption. His suicide note --  
complaining about human rights abuses and other crimes -- was  
addressed to his two commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, now  
leader of the U.S. "surge" effort in Iraq. It urged them to  
"Reevaluate yourselvesYou are not what you think you are and I  
know it."
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

-- Ed Leafe
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RE: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live

[mrgmhale]

> Bet I spend another 10,000 in over the next decade and a half, and it'll
> ALL be billable, since there won't be any of that silly "learning
> ActiveDocs" crap they tried to shove down our throat...
>

heh-heh, a Silver Lining that just turned Gold, eh?

Gil

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live
>
>
> Ed Leafe wrote:
> > On Mar 14, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:
> >
> >> "We expect Windows Live will be gone by the end of the year," said
> >> Paul
> >> DeGroot, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft."
> >
> > Great news! That means that we will have yet another killer
> > technology bandwagon from Microsoft to jump on! And we get to throw
> > away all of the time we spent learning to work with Live.
>
> Maybe it'd be better to stick with something that's been dead for a
> decade. Didn't Winchell spill the beans about Fox being killed off by
> MSFT 12 or 13 years ago? He hit the nail on the head, eh?
>
> Even with 3 years off doing nothing but publishing, and half my time
> doing LAMP stuff now, I've spent over 20,000 hours on Fox-related stuff,
> 15,000 of them billable, since the "Fox is dead" rumours started.
>
> Bet I spend another 10,000 in over the next decade and a half, and it'll
> ALL be billable, since there won't be any of that silly "learning
> ActiveDocs" crap they tried to shove down our throat...
>
> Whil
>
>
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Re: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live

[MB Software Solutions]

Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Mar 14, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:
>
>   
>> "We expect Windows Live will be gone by the end of the year," said  
>> Paul
>> DeGroot, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft."
>> 
>
>   Great news! That means that we will have yet another killer  
> technology bandwagon from Microsoft to jump on! And we get to throw  
> away all of the time we spent learning to work with Live.
>
>   I mean, everyone else *did* believe Microsoft when they told us that  
> this was the future, right? I'm not the only one?  ;-)
>   

Go Hailstorm!!  I want all of my credit #s stored in M$'s computers 
onlineit's secure, right?  

-- 
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MB Software Solutions, LLC
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Re: [ot] joke

[Pete Theisen]

On Wednesday 14 March 2007 7:11 am, Jim Felton wrote:
> Version 2
>
> NEW SUPERMARKET SURROUND-SOUND
> The new supermarket near my house has an automatic water mister to keep the
> produce fresh. Just before it goes on, you hear the sound of distant
> thunder and the smell of fresh rain.
>
> When you approach the milk cases, you hear cows mooing and witness the
> scent of fresh hay.
>
> When you approach the egg case, you hear hens cluck and cackle and the air
> is filled with the pleasing aroma of bacon and eggs frying.
>
> The veggie department features the smell of fresh buttered corn.
>
> And as I approached the famine care products aisle. The sound of a woman

Hi Jim!

With women it is most definitely famine.
-- 
Regards,

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Re: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live

[Kevin Cully]

Dang.  Another tattoo that I've got to get laser removed.

Ed Leafe wrote:
>   I mean, everyone else *did* believe Microsoft when they told us that  
> this was the future, right? I'm not the only one?  ;-)




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Re: [OT] Captain Halliburton to the Rescue!!

[Pete Theisen]

On Wednesday 14 March 2007 4:53 pm, Jerry Wolper wrote:
> Pete said:
> > An article in the (print) Weekly Standard a while ago
> > summed it up pretty well Plame wasn't undercover,
> > and had not been for a while.
>
> Even if she wasn't at that point, it's possible that revealing that
> she once was undercover compromised some of the contacts she made
> when she was.

Hi Jerry!

Yes, that is possible - but the law is specific about whether or not the spook 
is currently undercover and silent on the contacts.

I have a feeling that you have never read the Weekly Standard, and maybe never 
will.
-- 
Regards,

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Re: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live

[MB Software Solutions]

Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:
> Maybe it'd be better to stick with something that's been dead for a 
> decade. Didn't Winchell spill the beans about Fox being killed off by 
> MSFT 12 or 13 years ago? He hit the nail on the head, eh?
>
> Even with 3 years off doing nothing but publishing, and half my time 
> doing LAMP stuff now, I've spent over 20,000 hours on Fox-related stuff, 
> 15,000 of them billable, since the "Fox is dead" rumours started.
>
> Bet I spend another 10,000 in over the next decade and a half, and it'll 
> ALL be billable, since there won't be any of that silly "learning 
> ActiveDocs" crap they tried to shove down our throat...
>   

Reminds me of when my boss in the late 90s was getting excited about 
ActiveDocs only to be sorely learned that they didn't hold any promise.  
Talk about a wasted effort.

Hey, I'm sure that that DotNyet stuff will never suffer any of this 
fate, or at least for a long time, so perhaps we should all jump on that 
bandwagon now.  I can just see the M$ofties now:  "Those darn 
VFPers...they're so stubborn!  Why aren't they all adapting DotNet?  
We'll pull the plug on VFP and then we'll see how many of them come onto 
the DotNet wagon then!"

To be fair...some respected VFPers have said that they enjoy 
DotNetand I'm not talking about the ones who have a MVP status, 
either.  One such colleague said:  "There are things that DotNet does 
great that Fox can't, and vice-versa."

-- 
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Re: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live

[MB Software Solutions]

Kevin Cully wrote:
> Dang.  Another tattoo that I've got to get laser removed.
>   

LOL!  Nah, just alter it:  "Windows Lives On!"  Sounds better than 
"Windows Liver" or "Windows Liverpool" or "Windows Livermore" or 
"Windows Livewire" 

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RE: [OT] And the saga continues ...

[john harvey]

Good news! Hopefully, the bank will come through for you too.

John

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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:46 PM
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Steve is coming home tomorrow!!!

Still no go on the contractor/house issues...

Kristyne McDaniel




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Re: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

mrgmhale wrote:
>> Bet I spend another 10,000 in over the next decade and a half, and it'll
>> ALL be billable, since there won't be any of that silly "learning
>> ActiveDocs" crap they tried to shove down our throat...
>>
> 
> heh-heh, a Silver Lining that just turned Gold, eh?

I bin saying that for years. Just nobody listened. 

> Gil
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:05 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live
>>
>>
>> Ed Leafe wrote:
>>> On Mar 14, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:
>>>
 "We expect Windows Live will be gone by the end of the year," said
 Paul
 DeGroot, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft."
>>> Great news! That means that we will have yet another killer
>>> technology bandwagon from Microsoft to jump on! And we get to throw
>>> away all of the time we spent learning to work with Live.
>> Maybe it'd be better to stick with something that's been dead for a
>> decade. Didn't Winchell spill the beans about Fox being killed off by
>> MSFT 12 or 13 years ago? He hit the nail on the head, eh?
>>
>> Even with 3 years off doing nothing but publishing, and half my time
>> doing LAMP stuff now, I've spent over 20,000 hours on Fox-related stuff,
>> 15,000 of them billable, since the "Fox is dead" rumours started.
>>
>> Bet I spend another 10,000 in over the next decade and a half, and it'll
>> ALL be billable, since there won't be any of that silly "learning
>> ActiveDocs" crap they tried to shove down our throat...
>>
>> Whil
>>
>>
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Re: [NF] -- Wanted: Dead or Live

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

MB Software Solutions wrote:
> Kevin Cully wrote:
>> Dang.  Another tattoo that I've got to get laser removed.
>>   
> 
> LOL!  Nah, just alter it:  "Windows Lives On!"  Sounds better than 
> "Windows Liver" or "Windows Liverpool" or "Windows Livermore" or 
> "Windows Livewire" 

Windows Liverwurst.

Spell and hyphenate as desired.

Whil


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Re: Microsoft to release FoxPro 'Sedna' as Shared Source - next generation?

[ken.com]

I started with fox in 1988 also.

It would be great if most of the present users could come up with a substitute 
that would run on windows, Linux and Mac and would
'look' as much like VFP as possible, with a framework that would duplicate as 
closely as possible all the functions in VFP. Also,
we need a conversion technique better than those available for converting fpd 
to vfp. Dabo anyone? I think Python is as good as any
language I have seen and can probably do anything that VFP can do. I will not 
do a significant conversion to anything that is
limited to running on Windows. fpd to vfp was my last effort in that direction.



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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Microsoft to release FoxPro 'Sedna' as Shared Source


On 3/14/07, Matthew Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Remember this day my friends...
>
> The King is dead... Long live the King!!
>

So, there you have it. It's been a heck of a run. Thanks to all for
all the fun and best wishes to you.

I started with FoxBase/dBASE/Clipper, went all Fox in '88 and ran with
it exclusively through '98 (changing jobs, states, marital status,
jobs, MVP Awards, jobs, books, jobs, magazine columns and jobs). In
'98, I started working with Red Hat and saw the light. My company is
still supporting Fox 6 through 9 applications and may even get some of
that cool SednaX stuff in there. But now we owe it to our clients to
work to ensure their transition to the NextGen thing is smooth. Sounds
like another busy decade.

-- 
Ted Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com


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