Re: [NF] MySQL4 and MySQL5 residing on same machine

2007-05-20 Thread Mark Stanton
When using MySQL for website work a powerful, though unfortunate, 
reason for keeping 4 is that many hosts haven't updated their setups, 
and hence one may be forced to use 4.

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[NF] Looking for old Windows 2000 Pro and Windows 2000 Server ISO images

2007-05-20 Thread Malcolm Greene
I'm doing some testing for a customer and discovered that I needed to
test our software against Windows 2000 Pro and Windows 2000 Server. (I
have these environments running in a lab, but can't find our original CD
images and need to do our tests in clean VM's vs. VM's created from my
existing 2000 setups)

When I went to the MSDN site, I discovered that all Windows 2000
downloads are no longer available - Microsoft had to remove these
downloads from MSDN as part of their settlement with SUN regarding MS's
illegal changes to the Java JVM.

The MS support person provided this feedback:


Windows 2000 has been removed from MSDN subscriber download site because
of the Java Settlement Microsoft signed with Sun.

You may refer to this link:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/faq/default

If you already had the CD, you are not affected, but we can no longer
distribute the product. I hope you can understand that under the legal
settlement with SUN, Microsoft is not able to distribute products
containing JVM in them. Do you know someone who has the shipment so you
can refer to him?

If not, then you may have to do some hunting in used software stores,
check with community colleges in your area that might have a Computer
Science program. Or check the internet.


Because I am a licensed MSDN subscriber (via Empower program), I
interpret the above message to mean that another MSDN subscriber can
send me a Windows 2000 ISO images. If anyone can help me out, I would be
very grateful. Please contact me offlist at mal.greene at bdurham.com.

THANKS!

Malcolm


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Re: [OT] An Inconvenient Poll

2007-05-20 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Yes.  Below is an excerpt form the wiki under the section titled 
"Immediate responses to the Pearl Harbor attack".

#---
Upon the bombing of Pearl Harbor, Presidential Proclamations 2525 
(Japanese), 2526 (German) and 2527 (Italian) were signed. Many homes 
were raided using information from the CDI, and hundreds of aliens were 
in custody by the end of the day, including Germans and Italians 
(although war was not declared on Germany or Italy until December 11).

Presidential Proclamation 2537 was issued on January 14, 1942, requiring 
aliens to report any change of address, employment or name to the FBI. 
Enemy aliens were not allowed to enter restricted areas. Violators of 
these regulations were subject to "arrest, detention and internment for 
the duration of the war."
#

Regards,

LelandJ

Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>   
>> I went back and  re-read that portion of the Wiki, and I'm shocked that 
>> the Supreme Court ruled Constitutional the way the Japanese American's 
>> civil rights were violated. 
>> 
>
> Did the same happen with USA citizens from German origin? And with Italians?
>
>
>
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Re: [NF] MySQL4 and MySQL5 residing on same machine

2007-05-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 20, 2007, at 4:03 AM, Mark Stanton wrote:

> When using MySQL for website work a powerful, though unfortunate,
> reason for keeping 4 is that many hosts haven't updated their setups,
> and hence one may be forced to use 4.

Also, don't forget that there is absolutely nothing wrong with 4.  
Sure, it doesn't have SPs, but it's pretty telling that a lot of  
powerful and complex apps were created over the past decade without  
the need for SPs.

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Re: [NF] Looking for old Windows 2000 Pro and Windows 2000 Server ISO images

2007-05-20 Thread Man-wai Chang
 > When I went to the MSDN site, I discovered that all Windows 2000
> downloads are no longer available - Microsoft had to remove these
> downloads from MSDN as part of their settlement with SUN regarding MS's
> illegal changes to the Java JVM.

Google "windows 2000 torrent" if you really have the license key.

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RE: [NF] Lightweight Task Manager

2007-05-20 Thread Stephen the Cook
Matthew Jarvis <> wrote:
> Can someone recommend a nicely featured yet lightweight task manager
> i.e. reminder program? 
> 
> I've got my sales manager harping on me to install Outlook just so he
> can use the calendar thingy - and that ain't gonna happen... 
> 
> I use Outlook at home and like this calendar feature quite a bit but
> I don't allow Outlook at our company. 

Notes!

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can do them absolutely no good." ---Unknown

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RE: [NF] I love contracting!

2007-05-20 Thread Stephen the Cook
Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> And what is "the good employee?"  Someone who does dumb things for
> money, or someone who tries to give their expertise to save the
> company from doing dumb things?  

I find that if you have the ability to present to the people you "think" are
in power you are half way there.  If you take it personally that they don't
see your plan as the only way you are going to have problems.

I have found all to often that the leaders have a plan and an agenda already
in place.  You may see the folly of it and get frustrated, but you only see
what is in front of you, and fail to see the long range plan.  

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RE: [NF] Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it

2007-05-20 Thread Bill Arnold

> > Maybe I'm still being naïve, but this does beg the question of who
> > among us has a working arrangement with a VFP-savvy marketing
company 
> > who understands how our world works and is willing to deal with us
on 
> > an application specific - not framework, and not exclusive - basis?
> >
> > Dream on, huh? :)
> >
> >   
> 
> Why don't you start such a company, Bill?  Iirc, the "other Bill" was
> interested in doing something like this a long time ago, but it never 
> came to fruition.


You may be remembering me and the FoxBiz idea? I still think that and
the VFPDA were great ideas, they just lacked 'champions' willing to
devote the time and energy to make something like that happen. 

But we do have to survive, and since it boils down to either selling or
getting a job, we wind up doing what we have to do.

Here's what I've got assembled:

- a demo system that unlocks with an activation key
- a CHM help file with emphasis on video demos
- a (joomla/php/mysql) website with a downloads area and support forum
- a telemarketing script
- a prospects database
- software to support telemarketing (tracking)
- a price list
- a software license
- VNC based remote support

And, last but not least, 2 successful customer/users.

That should cover the bases. Frankly, the missing piece is my own
reluctance to switch gears and start treating sales as job # 1. 


Bill


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RE: [NF] Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it

2007-05-20 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Bill, I can't promise nothing, but send me some info offline.

I almost have all the pieces in place and I'd rather sell, put together
projects, etc., rather then develop.

Just not a back room type of guy, but as you say, we have to do what we have
too in order to make a living.

Thanks,

Virgil Bierschwale
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
http://www.jobsforourfuture.com/index.php


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> > Maybe I'm still being naïve, but this does beg the question of who
> > among us has a working arrangement with a VFP-savvy marketing
company 
> > who understands how our world works and is willing to deal with us
on 
> > an application specific - not framework, and not exclusive - basis?
> >
> > Dream on, huh? :)
> >
> >   
> 
> Why don't you start such a company, Bill?  Iirc, the "other Bill" was
> interested in doing something like this a long time ago, but it never 
> came to fruition.


You may be remembering me and the FoxBiz idea? I still think that and
the VFPDA were great ideas, they just lacked 'champions' willing to
devote the time and energy to make something like that happen. 

But we do have to survive, and since it boils down to either selling or
getting a job, we wind up doing what we have to do.

Here's what I've got assembled:

- a demo system that unlocks with an activation key
- a CHM help file with emphasis on video demos
- a (joomla/php/mysql) website with a downloads area and support forum
- a telemarketing script
- a prospects database
- software to support telemarketing (tracking)
- a price list
- a software license
- VNC based remote support

And, last but not least, 2 successful customer/users.

That should cover the bases. Frankly, the missing piece is my own
reluctance to switch gears and start treating sales as job # 1. 


Bill


> Michael J. Babcock, MCP



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Re: [NF] Looking for old Windows 2000 Pro and Windows 2000 Server ISO images

2007-05-20 Thread Malcolm Greene
Man-wai,

> Google "windows 2000 torrent" if you really have the license key.

Thank you! Any advice on how to determine if I have downloaded a valid
ISO image vs. an image with spyware?

Thanks,
Malcolm


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RE: [NF] I love contracting!

2007-05-20 Thread William Sanders / EFG
MM said -
> And what is "the good employee?" Someone who does dumb things for
> money, or someone who tries to give their expertise to save the
> company from doing dumb things?

Michael - wasn't this posting supposed to be about contracting?
Typically an employee isn't a contractor, and vice-versa.
There are legal definitions of each, rarely do they intersect.

I'm with Ted on this one - there's a big gap between being a consultant
and a contractor.  When I'm out on a consult, it's usually to find the way
for that client - to operate their business FASTER with an IT solution,
usually something in VFP or LAMP.  I stopped doing contracting as a
'contractor' ages past, but I basically recall that when I was onsite as a
contractor? I did what ever the client told me to do, with no backtalk. 
We MIGHT have a design review, MAYBE I'd throw up some design
considerations, but mostly I did what was pre-approved to do.

As to the 'employee' moniker - basically, IMO, the employee should make a
balance between 'do what I've been told' and 'always find the added value
in the business process'.  But that's just my opinion, ya? Both of us have
worked for crappy employers in the past - I gave it up in its entirety -
the hassle was too big regardless of the perceived income stream.

Big PS to _Stephen - hey - whaddya think about taking one of their smaller
VB6 apps, something that deals with a database , and showing a prototype
in VFP?  Then show the source code and how LESS source code it is to DO
STUFF with the data?  (just a thought, I know the negative responses
already).

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RE: [NF] Lightweight Task Manager

2007-05-20 Thread William Sanders / EFG
Malcolm -

For a sales Geek? A GOOD SALES GEEK?
I'd recommend Telemagic.
Written in VFP, 45 day free trial, works very well.

It does a lot more than just 'simple calendaring and reminders'

my quickie notes on it here:
http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~TeleMagic~SoftwareEng

d/l here  -
http://www.telemagic.com/v5_SP4_Eval.html

Ya, 53 megs is not small - but hey - it's COMPLETE.
Your sales manager can start using it, and be productive, almost throwing
away outlook for his email communications as well (with some basic
configuration time first).

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Re: [NF] MySQL4 and MySQL5 residing on same machine

2007-05-20 Thread William Sanders / EFG
Michael -

You can STORE them on the same machine, but, IMO, it's not a good thing to
RUN them concurrently.

You can change up which one starts at boot time, as you need it. You'll
need to change some registry entries as well, but it's a trivial thing.

Sure, its a bit more work, not a pointy-clicky thing until the last bits,
but Most shared services Internet Hosts aren't using 5 yet (which is why I
develop the commercial apps in 4 for my clients).

I've got 5 on another machine , but if you're not machine heavy these
days, and still wanna keep both around, don't go the VM route.

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Editor functions

2007-05-20 Thread Lew
I've lost track of my documentation for the 'undocumented' editor functions 
which I believe reside in
foxtools.fll. Can anyone refresh my memory or send the url to this stuff?
Thanks.
-Lew



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Re: UMPC future prediction....what do you think?

2007-05-20 Thread Alan Bourke

On Sat, 19 May 2007 16:52:04 -0400, "MB Software Solutions"

> Your thoughts on UMPC's future?

Same as Tablet PC and voice recognition, i.e. niche.

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Re: [NF] Looking for old Windows 2000 Pro and Windows 2000 Server ISO images

2007-05-20 Thread Alan Bourke

On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:20:19 -0400, "Malcolm Greene"

> Thank you! Any advice on how to determine if I have downloaded a valid
> ISO image vs. an image with spyware?

Well, it would be difficult to slipstream spyware into the Windows
installation process, but if I wanted to do it I would install it in a
virtual machine first, then get hold of all the freeware antispyware and
antivirus applications and run them in the virtual machine. But that
still doesn't preclude it having some sort of undetectable rootkit
there.
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RE: [NF] Lightweight Task Manager

2007-05-20 Thread Alan Bourke

On Sun, 20 May 2007 11:07:14 -0500 (CDT), "William Sanders / EFG"

> I'd recommend Telemagic.

Wow, I remember fighting MergeMagic in the very early 1990's.
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Re: [NF] MySQL4 and MySQL5 residing on same machine

2007-05-20 Thread MB Software Solutions
Mark Stanton wrote:
> When using MySQL for website work a powerful, though unfortunate, 
> reason for keeping 4 is that many hosts haven't updated their setups, 
> and hence one may be forced to use 4.
>   

Good point...thanks!

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Re: [NF] Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it

2007-05-20 Thread MB Software Solutions
Bill Arnold wrote:
> That should cover the bases. Frankly, the missing piece is my own 
> reluctance to switch gears and start treating sales as job # 1.
Hire a commission-only sales guy to do this for you.  Sure, you'll have 
to pay him a very good commission, but in the end, won't he be worth it?


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Re: UMPC future prediction....what do you think?

2007-05-20 Thread MB Software Solutions
Alan Bourke wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2007 16:52:04 -0400, "MB Software Solutions"
>
>   
>> Your thoughts on UMPC's future?
>> 
>
> Same as Tablet PC and voice recognition, i.e. niche.
>
>   
iow, "cute" but not practical for regular mainstay business work, eh?

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Re: [NF] I love contracting!

2007-05-20 Thread Chet Gardiner
The last large corporations I worked for:

1) Had a wonderful "long range plan". 

Their "long range" plan was to replace their core business software with 
the "state of the art" in order to impress Wall St.  This software was 
running in FoxPro Dos and FPW with some VFP.  Those of us in the Fox 
team suggested that they allow the 11 of us to port all of the software 
into VFP.  This would have taken us about a year with no interruption to 
ongoing processing.  But no, they knew best so they hired a couple of 
hundred of folks to re-write the system in m$'s "latest and greatest" 
VB, C, some Java and with SQL server databases.  After spending millions 
for over 2 years they dumped the local team, hired an Indian company, 
fired them, hired another Indian company then sold themselves to their 
major competitor.

Great plan...

2) Had a wonderful "long range plan".

We had created a system in VFP that satisfied their business model from 
initial contact through installation and marketing follow up.  We only 
had two more small steps -- integrate from the VFP system with their 3D 
cad system and to feed Quick Books and would have had an end to end 
system that would do the job for the least financial outlay for the 
franchises.

But, they hired some corporate IT guy.  This guy decided that the 
solution to this relatively small franchise business' IT needs was to go 
with bloated, inadequate m$ megasoftware and force the franchises to buy 
(or lease) new servers.  Along with all of this would have been a 
requirement to retrain the 500 folks out in the field who already knew 
how to work with the existing system that was CUSTOM TAILORED TO THE 
BUSINESS.

They ended up losing MILLIONS of dollars, fired this clown early (and 
had to pay his huge severance) and the franchises are still working with 
the original system but they DON'T have the extensions I would have 
provided had I not been laid off in favor of m$'s crap.


I have found that all to often "the leaders have a plan" and that since 
they are incompetent idiots whose only desire is to please the jerks on 
Wall St. to the detriment of their employees and customers -- they 
totally f*ck it up and cost many thousands of folks their jobs...

They have "long range plans" and they are generally bullsh*t...

It's been my experience that nearly ALL of the corporations I've worked 
for have followed the same path I've just outlined and nearly all of 
them are extinct.





Stephen the Cook wrote:
> Michael Madigan <> wrote:
>   
>> And what is "the good employee?"  Someone who does dumb things for
>> money, or someone who tries to give their expertise to save the
>> company from doing dumb things?  
>> 
>
> I find that if you have the ability to present to the people you "think" are
> in power you are half way there.  If you take it personally that they don't
> see your plan as the only way you are going to have problems.
>
> I have found all to often that the leaders have a plan and an agenda already
> in place.  You may see the folly of it and get frustrated, but you only see
> what is in front of you, and fail to see the long range plan.  
>
> Stephen Russell
> DBA / .Net Developer
>
> Memphis TN 38115
> 901.246-0159
>
> "A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who
> can do them absolutely no good." ---Unknown
>
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/
>
>
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Re: [NF] I love contracting!

2007-05-20 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Chet Gardiner wrote:
> The last large corporations I worked for:
> 
> 1) Had a wonderful "long range plan". 
> 
> Their "long range" plan was to replace their core business software with 
> the "state of the art" in order to impress Wall St.  This software was 
> running in FoxPro Dos and FPW with some VFP.  Those of us in the Fox 
> team suggested that they allow the 11 of us to port all of the software 
> into VFP.  This would have taken us about a year with no interruption to 
> ongoing processing.  But no, they knew best so they hired a couple of 
> hundred of folks to re-write the system in m$'s "latest and greatest" 
> VB, C, some Java and with SQL server databases.  After spending millions 
> for over 2 years they dumped the local team, hired an Indian company, 
> fired them, hired another Indian company then sold themselves to their 
> major competitor.
> 
> Great plan...
> 
> 2) Had a wonderful "long range plan".
> 
> We had created a system in VFP that satisfied their business model from 
> initial contact through installation and marketing follow up.  We only 
> had two more small steps -- integrate from the VFP system with their 3D 
> cad system and to feed Quick Books and would have had an end to end 
> system that would do the job for the least financial outlay for the 
> franchises.
> 
> But, they hired some corporate IT guy.  This guy decided that the 
> solution to this relatively small franchise business' IT needs was to go 
> with bloated, inadequate m$ megasoftware and force the franchises to buy 
> (or lease) new servers.  Along with all of this would have been a 
> requirement to retrain the 500 folks out in the field who already knew 
> how to work with the existing system that was CUSTOM TAILORED TO THE 
> BUSINESS.
> 
> They ended up losing MILLIONS of dollars, fired this clown early (and 
> had to pay his huge severance) and the franchises are still working with 
> the original system but they DON'T have the extensions I would have 
> provided had I not been laid off in favor of m$'s crap.
> 
> 
> I have found that all to often "the leaders have a plan" and that since 
> they are incompetent idiots whose only desire is to please the jerks on 
> Wall St. to the detriment of their employees and customers -- they 
> totally f*ck it up and cost many thousands of folks their jobs...
> 
> They have "long range plans" and they are generally bullsh*t...

No they are NOT. Definitely not!
The part of the picture you are missing is that their "long range plans"
are not for the benefit of their employees or customers... not even "the
jerks on Wall St.". Their "long range plans" are for the benefit or
their wallets and/or their careers. They don't care if the company goes
down. So long as they can jump in time to a better position.
The REAL jerks are the ones who hire them. Those "head hunters" who know
nothing of the business they are hiring for, and the jerks who hire
those "head hunters". The problem here is that people are choosing
perception over reality. And then blaming the rest of the world for
their follies.

> 
> It's been my experience that nearly ALL of the corporations I've worked 
> for have followed the same path I've just outlined and nearly all of 
> them are extinct.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Stephen the Cook wrote:
>> Michael Madigan <> wrote:
>>   
>>> And what is "the good employee?"  Someone who does dumb things for
>>> money, or someone who tries to give their expertise to save the
>>> company from doing dumb things?  
>>> 
>> I find that if you have the ability to present to the people you "think" are
>> in power you are half way there.  If you take it personally that they don't
>> see your plan as the only way you are going to have problems.
>>
>> I have found all to often that the leaders have a plan and an agenda already
>> in place.  You may see the folly of it and get frustrated, but you only see
>> what is in front of you, and fail to see the long range plan.  
>>
>> Stephen Russell
>> DBA / .Net Developer
>>
>> Memphis TN 38115
>> 901.246-0159
>>
>> "A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who
>> can do them absolutely no good." ---Unknown
>>
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/


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Re: Editor functions

2007-05-20 Thread Ted Roche
On 5/20/07, Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've lost track of my documentation for the 'undocumented' editor functions 
> which I believe reside in
> foxtools.fll. Can anyone refresh my memory or send the url to this stuff?

First place I'd look is http://leafe.com/dls/vfp, and yup, there it is!

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Re: [NF] UMPC future prediction....what do you think?

2007-05-20 Thread Ted Roche
On 5/19/07, MB Software Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Your thoughts on UMPC's future?

A while ago, I dug up a presentation from the Boston Computer Society
on Pen Computing - pre-Newton days - and it said the same things [1].
Dead on arrival. BillG is just hawking whatever they are selling this
month. The only prediction he ever got right was "a computer on every
desktop."

Phones should become ubiquitous and tiny - iPod sized. A bluetooth
earbud and a body you stash somewhere. A PIM application can rock on a
Palm sized device: calendar, notes, phone number lookup. If you want
to do more, you want 10x7 or better, Flash, YouTube and office
applications. Trying to beat the capabilities of a laptop is a fools
venture.

Would you use one to develop applications? That's a key question. It's
the sure sign of a dud that everyone thinks that _someone_else_ would
want to use one of them, but not them.


[1] http://users.erols.com/rwservices/pens/penhist.html - Fifteen years ago!
[2] http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~TabletPC~VFP - Four years ago

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Re: [NF] UMPC future prediction....what do you think?

2007-05-20 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
MB Software Solutions wrote:
> (Should be NF...sorry!)
> 
> 
> Interesting article:
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019900

OK, I finally had to read this.

In 1984 (yes, honestly), I wrote an editorial for our local PC user 
group (this was hot on the heels of that new-fangled PC-AT that we all 
hacked by putting 14 or 16 MHz crystals in).

Three issues for mobile computing:

#1 Input: How do you get data into it. Right now, that means a QWERTY 
keyboard. I posited that eventually you'll be able to speak into it, 
doing away with the manual input. We're still a ways-away, but this is 
closer than #2

#2 Output: This is what the article talked about - screen size. What if 
you weren't limited to a physical screen? What if you had actual 
holograms that you could see, but could also keep private (but also make 
public if you wanted)? Or maybe what if you had a gadget that you wore 
like a pair of eyeglasses, sort of like the heads-up displays that 
pilots (and some cars) now sport? Suddenly the form factor becomes 
irrelevant.

#3 Bandwidth/storage: If you're instantly connected to the world, you 
don't have to carry your hard disk along with you. And you probably 
wouldn't want to carry the Entire Internet around with you. Watching a 
friend of mine zoom in on the roof of his house via googlemaps on his 
blackberry a week ago, well, this one is pretty much taken care of.

Someone is going to make a breakthrough in the screen size and suddenly 
the size of the device you're carrying around will be constrained simply 
by how you're going to type into it.

And you never know when that breakthrough will happen.

Whil


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[NF] Scanning documents to PDF

2007-05-20 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I've got a HP 3030 laserjet, fax, scanner that works good

 

I need to scan in some documents and convert them to PDF so that I can put
them on the new chamber of commerce web site that I'm building.

 

Problem is VISTA's software for scanning appears to be the fax and scan
wizard which works good, BUT it doesn't let you export to a PDF which I need
to do.

 

So I've been googling and finding all types of stuff out there for a price
and some is quite pricey.

 

Anybody know of a good CHEAP program that does this ?

 

Thanks,

 

Virgil Bierschwale

http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com

http://www.jobsforourfuture.com/index.php

 



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Re: [NF] Scanning documents to PDF

2007-05-20 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh

On May 20, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

> Problem is VISTA's software for scanning appears to be the fax and  
> scan
> wizard which works good, BUT it doesn't let you export to a PDF  
> which I need
> to do.

Virgil - --

Do it from inside Acrobat Professional if you have it. You can scan  
directly from in there, and it has the additional advantage of being  
able to keep multi-page documents intact, rather than having to  
recombine them from individual files after individual scanning.


Ken


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RE: [NF] Scanning documents to PDF

2007-05-20 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Thanks, I probably need to buy a copy of that real soon.

I found a way around it, sort of.
I scan it in using windows scan and fax software and then print it to the
"cutePDF" software.

Thanks,

Virgil Bierschwale
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
http://www.jobsforourfuture.com/index.php

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On May 20, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

> Problem is VISTA's software for scanning appears to be the fax and  
> scan
> wizard which works good, BUT it doesn't let you export to a PDF  
> which I need
> to do.

Virgil - --

Do it from inside Acrobat Professional if you have it. You can scan  
directly from in there, and it has the additional advantage of being  
able to keep multi-page documents intact, rather than having to  
recombine them from individual files after individual scanning.


Ken


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Re: [NF] Scanning documents to PDF

2007-05-20 Thread Ted Roche
On 5/20/07, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Problem is VISTA's software for scanning appears to be the fax and scan
> wizard which works good, BUT it doesn't let you export to a PDF which I need
> to do.

Download The Open CD (http://www.theopencd.org) to install PDFCreator,
a printer driver that will save to PDF.

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RE: [NF] Scanning documents to PDF

2007-05-20 Thread Pablo H Rivera Sr
Does this "PDFCreater" retain the links in the resulting pdf
document? 

PabloSr
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Re: [NF] Scanning documents to PDF

2007-05-20 Thread Ted Roche
On 5/20/07, Pablo H Rivera Sr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does this "PDFCreater" retain the links in the resulting pdf
> document?

I don't know; I've never tried. What kind of links are you trying to
retain? HTML links?

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Re: [NF] I love contracting!

2007-05-20 Thread MB Software Solutions
Chet Gardiner wrote:
>  (and 
> had to pay his huge severance) 
I must learn how to get that kind of job...you know, the one where you 
get a huge severance after they cut you loose.  The "Golden Handshake" 
as its called, right?

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RE: [NF] Scanning documents to PDF

2007-05-20 Thread Pablo H Rivera Sr
Sorry Ted, after I sent it, I realized that I did try this
before, but with the Adobe Acrobat Professional V.8 product.
Hyperlinks (HTML or other types) in a document are disregarded
(not retained) when you print to the "Adobe PDF" printer
driver. I have the 2007 Office Suite and it can "convert"
documents in this manner but also with this limitation. If the
"Adobe PDF" add on were to work with the 2007 Office Suite,
then all those hyperlinks would remain functional in the
converted PDF document. 

The Adobe "PDFMaker" is broken for the 2007 Suite, but it
works great with prior Office Suite versions.  For this reason
I wondered if the non-Adobe PDF converter (printer driver?)
worked like the "Adobe PDF" printer driver or like the Adobe
"PDFMaker" should work, with the 2007 Office Suite. 

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*   resulting pdf
*   > document?
*   
*   I don't know; I've never tried. What kind of links are
*   you trying to
*   retain? HTML links?



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RE: [NF] Scanning documents to PDF

2007-05-20 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
This works pretty good.
Guess I need to figure out how to pay for it 
Downloaded the 30 day trial and very pleased with it.

Thanks,

Virgil Bierschwale
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
http://www.jobsforourfuture.com/index.php


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On May 20, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

> Problem is VISTA's software for scanning appears to be the fax and  
> scan
> wizard which works good, BUT it doesn't let you export to a PDF  
> which I need
> to do.

Virgil - --

Do it from inside Acrobat Professional if you have it. You can scan  
directly from in there, and it has the additional advantage of being  
able to keep multi-page documents intact, rather than having to  
recombine them from individual files after individual scanning.


Ken


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FoxForward is being held in beautiful Alpharetta, Georgia on September 7th 
through the 9th.  All attendees will receive a printed conference book, two 
lunches, a t-shirt and all the information they can stuff into their brains 
over two and a half days.

Don't miss out on investing in your future.  Register today.
http://foxforward.net/registration.php

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Southwest Fox 2007
October 18 - 21, 2007

Announcing the fourth annual Southwest Fox Conference, presenting the latest in 
Microsoft Visual FoxPro development techniques, new changes in VFP 9.0 SP2, 
Sedna Components, and interop with other technologies with sessions from some 
of the best and the brightest VFP speakers.

Location: Arizona Golf Resort and Conference Center, Mesa, Arizona

A VFP conference for VFP Developers 
http://www.swfox.net

Important dates coming up:
May 1, 2007 - Registration starts 
July 1, 2007 - Early Bird registration ends
October 18, 2007 - Conference starts

Early bird registration includes a free pre-conference session. Lots of other 
surprises are in the planning stages.

For more information, please contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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