Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I

2008-09-16 Thread Vince Teachout
Bill Anderson wrote:
 http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-2008sep16,0,6019086,full.storyhttp://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-2008sep16,0,6019086,full.story

 http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-pg,0,1648752.photogallery?1http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-pg,0,1648752.photogallery?1
   
Very cool.  I had always thought that there was no such thing as too 
many tomatoes - now I'm not sure!   The article didn't say, but surely 
SOME of those tomatoes ended up as salsa?  :-)

Have you ever tried Llama poop as a fertilizer?  My friend Jules owns 
llamas and uses that, and her garden looks like Findhorn!

Great job


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RE: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I

2008-09-16 Thread Eurico Chagas Filho

I like to eat tomatoes, please send a sample.

E.



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Re: [OT] Colored Reverend critical of Bristol snoops

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Madigan
Black people are funny.


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 http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr09-03-08.html
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RE: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word?

2008-09-16 Thread Kevin S. Goff
If you ask me, the femi-nazis are picking on Palin because she's a girl

KG



-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:11 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word?

Hi Everybody!

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/why-the-media-feminists-hate-palin/

As George Will noted in a column, “Eugenics by Abortion,” abortion of 
Down syndrome children has become part of an insidious quest for a 
“disability-free society.” Will has a personal interest in this debate 
and has written about the ongoing attack in America on a whole “category 
of citizens”―those with Down syndrome. The elderly could be the next in 
line. After all, why else did Democratic Party moneybags George Soros 
initiate a $45 million “Project on Death in America” and promote 
euthanasia and assisted suicide?
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[OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Everyone,

There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT] anymore because of the
racist messages from Pete Theisen and the BS partisan nonsense about the
election. You'd think there was nothing else going on in the U.S. besides
the election and beating down African-Americans like the Democratic
candidate who is a first-generation American with a Kenyan father.

GIVE ME A BREAK! I hate seeing this over the top blatant racist stuff over
and over again in the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing to a
video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the SOURCE.
  
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RE: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word?

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Madigan
Good one!


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--- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kevin S. Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Kevin S. Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word?
 To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:48 PM
 If you ask me, the femi-nazis are picking on Palin because
 she's a girl
 
 KG
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pete Theisen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:11 AM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word?
 
 Hi Everybody!
 
 http://www.aim.org/aim-column/why-the-media-feminists-hate-palin/
 
 As George Will noted in a column, “Eugenics by
 Abortion,” abortion of 
 Down syndrome children has become part of an insidious
 quest for a 
 “disability-free society.” Will has a personal interest
 in this debate 
 and has written about the ongoing attack in America on a
 whole “category 
 of citizens”―those with Down syndrome. The elderly
 could be the next in 
 line. After all, why else did Democratic Party moneybags
 George Soros 
 initiate a $45 million “Project on Death in America”
 and promote 
 euthanasia and assisted suicide?
 -- 
 Regards,
 
 Pete
 http://pete-theisen.com/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Madigan
It's not racist if what he says is true.


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--- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
 To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:50 PM
 Everyone,
 
 There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT]
 anymore because of the
 racist messages from Pete Theisen and the BS partisan
 nonsense about the
 election. You'd think there was nothing else going on
 in the U.S. besides
 the election and beating down African-Americans like the
 Democratic
 candidate who is a first-generation American with a Kenyan
 father.
 
 GIVE ME A BREAK! I hate seeing this over the top blatant
 racist stuff over
 and over again in the subject lines of these one-line
 messages pointing to a
 video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the
 SOURCE.
   
 Kristyne McDaniel
 http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog
 http://www.mcstyles.com/
  
 Whether you think you can, or you think you can't
 you are right.
  -- Henry Ford
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread James Roark(The Dogstar Group)
But when you keep flogging the same old horse, it becomes meaningless. 
Dogging the same old thing does not winn points for your opinion, it 
just makes you look less and less intelligent., as if your have reached 
the end of your thoughts and have nothing else to say.
Jim



Michael Madigan wrote:
 It's not racist if what he says is true.

 
 Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 
 2008

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 --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
 To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:50 PM
 Everyone,

 There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT]
 anymore because of the
 racist messages from Pete Theisen and the BS partisan
 nonsense about the
 election. You'd think there was nothing else going on
 in the U.S. besides
 the election and beating down African-Americans like the
 Democratic
 candidate who is a first-generation American with a Kenyan
 father.

 GIVE ME A BREAK! I hate seeing this over the top blatant
 racist stuff over
 and over again in the subject lines of these one-line
 messages pointing to a
 video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the
 SOURCE.
   
 Kristyne McDaniel
 http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog
 http://www.mcstyles.com/
  
 Whether you think you can, or you think you can't
 you are right.
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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I do agree Kristyne but i do suppose your keyboard has a delete button
or simply twit him.
Nothing to get upset about .

A+
jml


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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Madigan
Well that's another issue.  He's not racist, maybe he's just redundant.


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--- On Tue, 9/16/08, James Roark(The Dogstar Group) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: James Roark(The Dogstar Group) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:37 PM
 But when you keep flogging the same old horse, it becomes
 meaningless. 
 Dogging the same old thing does not winn points for your
 opinion, it 
 just makes you look less and less intelligent., as if your
 have reached 
 the end of your thoughts and have nothing else to say.
 Jim
 
 
 
 Michael Madigan wrote:
  It's not racist if what he says is true.
 
 
 
  Now I am become Death, the destroyer of
 Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008
 
  Right Wing Mike
  http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
 
 
  --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kristyne McDaniel
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  From: Kristyne McDaniel
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's
 Racist Flame Bait
  To: 'ProFox Email List'
 profox@leafe.com
  Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:50 PM
  Everyone,
 
  There's barely anything interesting in ProFox
 [OT]
  anymore because of the
  racist messages from Pete Theisen and the BS
 partisan
  nonsense about the
  election. You'd think there was nothing else
 going on
  in the U.S. besides
  the election and beating down African-Americans
 like the
  Democratic
  candidate who is a first-generation American with
 a Kenyan
  father.
 
  GIVE ME A BREAK! I hate seeing this over the top
 blatant
  racist stuff over
  and over again in the subject lines of these
 one-line
  messages pointing to a
  video clip that I'll never watch --- because
 of the
  SOURCE.

  Kristyne McDaniel
  http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog
  http://www.mcstyles.com/
   
  Whether you think you can, or you think you
 can't
  you are right.
   -- Henry Ford
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:37 PM, James Roark(The Dogstar Group)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But when you keep flogging the same old horse, it becomes meaningless.
 Dogging the same old thing does not winn points for your opinion, it
 just makes you look less and less intelligent., as if your have reached
 the end of your thoughts and have nothing else to say.
 Jim

I do find it quite amusing. It reminds me of treadmill horses.

A+
jml


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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread James Roark(The Dogstar Group)
Really...
Sorry I didn't check the spelung G I am in the middle of 2 different 
web site development and just couldn't resist the reply to K.
Jim



Jean Laeremans wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:37 PM, James Roark(The Dogstar Group)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 But when you keep flogging the same old horse, it becomes meaningless.
 Dogging the same old thing does not winn points for your opinion, it
 just makes you look less and less intelligent., as if your have reached
 the end of your thoughts and have nothing else to say.
 Jim
 

 I do find it quite amusing. It reminds me of treadmill horses.

 A+
 jml


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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:

 There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT] anymore because of the
 racist messages from Pete Theisen and the BS partisan nonsense about the
 election. You'd think there was nothing else going on in the U.S. besides
 the election and beating down African-Americans like the Democratic
 candidate who is a first-generation American with a Kenyan father.
 
 GIVE ME A BREAK! I hate seeing this over the top blatant racist stuff over
 and over again in the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing to a
 video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the SOURCE.

Hi Kristyne!

Racist? I used to be a liberal until I became a Social Worker.

The endless sensitivity training, which in those days consisted of one 
or another street person pointing his finger in your face and saying 
You beeze a raysuhst, muthuhfuckuh! Then 40 years of affirmative 
action which meant I had to be relegated to the white promotion and 
seniority list or else change careers.

Finally, the promotion of high-school dropouts to superior positions 
over me because they had been discriminated for the last 400 or their 23 
years. This is to say nothing of the welfare clients urinating in the 
elevators where we worked. You knows hows it is, man. When yo gotta go 
yo gotta go. Racist, me? How could you think it?
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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
James Roark(The Dogstar Group) wrote:
 Really...
 Sorry I didn't check the spelung G I am in the middle of 2 different 
 web site development and just couldn't resist the reply to K.
 Jim

Hi Jim!

You just wonn a point. On the other hand, Leland offers his special 
spell checker for only $8.

 But when you keep flogging the same old horse, it becomes meaningless.
 Dogging the same old thing does not winn points for your opinion, it
 just makes you look less and less intelligent., as if your have reached
 the end of your thoughts and have nothing else to say.
 Jim
 
 I do find it quite amusing. It reminds me of treadmill horses.
-- 
Regards,

Pete
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[OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread jrroark
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/sarah-palin-phenomenon-doomed/story.aspx?guid=E68FE5D2-7747-4170-B7DC-8EEC17B4D6F5dist=SecMostRead
or http://tinyurl.com/6zn83n

I like the line...
I'll be interested to see how Palin -- not to mention McCain and the
Republican campaign machine -- reacts when the media's disillusionment
sets in for real. Their actions may determine the course of the 2008
race.

rant
WTF - We aren't intelligent so we have to be defined by the media?

This just gets my goat.
/rant
Jim





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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:

 the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing to a
 video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the SOURCE.

Hi Kristyne!

Would have never thought YOU to be closed-minded, of ALL people.

http://everything2.com/e2node/Why%2520can%2527t%2520whites%2520use%2520the%2520word%2520%2522nigger%253F%2522

Or

http://tinyurl.com/6oavfr

Here's another link to not look at, but perhaps some others might.
-- 
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RE: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread John
Worry not, God is always in control

John

-Original Message-
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Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:12 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: [OT] Sarah Pailn

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/sarah-palin-phenomenon-doomed/story.as
px?guid=E68FE5D2-7747-4170-B7DC-8EEC17B4D6F5dist=SecMostRead
or http://tinyurl.com/6zn83n

I like the line...
I'll be interested to see how Palin -- not to mention McCain and the
Republican campaign machine -- reacts when the media's disillusionment
sets in for real. Their actions may determine the course of the 2008
race.

rant
WTF - We aren't intelligent so we have to be defined by the media?

This just gets my goat.
/rant
Jim





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Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Madigan
This is a silly article.  This guy thinks Palin has gotten GOOD PRESS?  She's 
been called a bad mother, an idiot, an animal shooter, incompetent, and a pig 
with lipstick.  How can the coverage get any worse?


Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008

Right Wing Mike
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike


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 Subject: [OT] Sarah Pailn
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 4:11 PM
 http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/sarah-palin-phenomenon-doomed/story.aspx?guid=E68FE5D2-7747-4170-B7DC-8EEC17B4D6F5dist=SecMostRead
 or http://tinyurl.com/6zn83n
 
 I like the line...
 I'll be interested to see how Palin -- not to
 mention McCain and the
 Republican campaign machine -- reacts when the media's
 disillusionment
 sets in for real. Their actions may determine the course of
 the 2008
 race.
 
 rant
 WTF - We aren't intelligent so we have to be defined by
 the media?
 
 This just gets my goat.
 /rant
 Jim
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/sarah-palin-phenomenon-doomed/story.aspx?guid=E68FE5D2-7747-4170-B7DC-8EEC17B4D6F5dist=SecMostRead
 or http://tinyurl.com/6zn83n

 I'll be interested to see how Palin -- not to mention McCain and the
 Republican campaign machine -- reacts when the media's disillusionment
 sets in for real. Their actions may determine the course of the 2008
 race.

 WTF - We aren't intelligent so we have to be defined by the media?

Hi Jim!

I was at the R party headquarters today. The Palin stuff just came in 
when they opened at 9 and by 11 it was almost gone already. I got a 
button, at least. I hope we get more because everyone I know wants one.
-- 
Regards,

Pete
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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Madigan
Reminds me of Mike Dukakis who would let his wife be raped and murdered without 
getting angry at the poor savages.


Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008

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 Subject: Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
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 Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 4:14 PM
 Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
 
  the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing
 to a
  video clip that I'll never watch --- because of
 the SOURCE.
 
 Hi Kristyne!
 
 Would have never thought YOU to be closed-minded, of ALL
 people.
 
 http://everything2.com/e2node/Why%2520can%2527t%2520whites%2520use%2520the%2520word%2520%2522nigger%253F%2522
 
 Or
 
 http://tinyurl.com/6oavfr
 
 Here's another link to not look at, but perhaps some
 others might.
 -- 
 Regards,
 
 Pete
 http://pete-theisen.com/
 
 
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Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I

2008-09-16 Thread Bill Anderson
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cool, so you specialize in tomatoes.  Are you thinking about doing any
 of this for profit?


We've toyed with the idea, basically just trying to sell our overage.
Perhaps we'll tie in to a local restaurant.



 My wife and I just became certified Master Gardeners in August, we work
 out of the Pasco county UF/IFAS (University of Florida Institute of Food
 and Agriculture) extension office.  Before we started the master
 gardening program we didn't know we would end up being slaves to the
 county agent.  g


OK, that's a serious gardener g.

Bill


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Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I

2008-09-16 Thread Bill Anderson
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bill Anderson wrote:
  
 http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-2008sep16,0,6019086,full.story
 
 http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-2008sep16,0,6019086,full.story
 
 
  
 http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-pg,0,1648752.photogallery?1
 
 http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-pg,0,1648752.photogallery?1
 
 
 Very cool.  I had always thought that there was no such thing as too
 many tomatoes - now I'm not sure!   The article didn't say, but surely
 SOME of those tomatoes ended up as salsa?  :-)

 Have you ever tried Llama poop as a fertilizer?  My friend Jules owns
 llamas and uses that, and her garden looks like Findhorn!

 Great job


Turns out the article came out *today*, front page (no joke), left hand
column below the fold. Picture on page A15.

And yes, some ended up as *terrific* salsa.

(Llama poop) -- nope, haven't tried it but if I could, I'd probably try it.

Bill


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Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:19 PM, John wrote:

 Worry not, God is always in control

So *that's* who is responsible for the current financial mess. And  
here I thought it was the idiots extending credit to the credit- 
unworthy!


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Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I

2008-09-16 Thread Bill Anderson
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Eurico Chagas Filho 
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 I like to eat tomatoes, please send a sample.

 E.


We can start the PVTC (ProFox Virtual Tomato Club)!

Bill


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Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote:
 This is a silly article.  This guy thinks Palin has gotten GOOD PRESS? 

Hi Michael!

In politics, good press is any press, as long as they spell your name right.
-- 
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Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I

2008-09-16 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:

 I like to eat tomatoes, please send a sample.

 E.


 We can start the PVTC (ProFox Virtual Tomato Club)!


Can you post them on the download page on my site? ;-)

We can make downloading them very efficient! Here's the BitTorrent  
client I use:
http://sarwat.net/bittorrent/

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Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I

2008-09-16 Thread Bill Anderson
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:

  I like to eat tomatoes, please send a sample.
 
  E.
 
 
  We can start the PVTC (ProFox Virtual Tomato Club)!


 Can you post them on the download page on my site? ;-)

We can make downloading them very efficient! Here's the BitTorrent
 client I use:
 http://sarwat.net/bittorrent/

 -- Ed Leafe


No need to -- everyone can munch on these -- 
http://socaltomatoes.blogspot.com/search/label/Image

Enjoy! s

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RE: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Kevin S. Goff
 She's been called a bad mother, an idiot, an animal shooter, incompetent,
and a pig with lipstick.


Maybe she is, maybe she isn't - but she's hot





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Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I

2008-09-16 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:

 No need to -- everyone can munch on these -- 
 http://socaltomatoes.blogspot.com/search/label/Image

 Enjoy! s


I tried, but I got pieces of glass in my mouth trying to eat them  
from the monitor. Guess I should print them out first!

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Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Madigan
Oh yeah, good point.  Giving loans to minorities who couldn't qualify really 
sent the whole housing and credit market into the toilet.  Once again the 
do-gooders screwed us.


Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008

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 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 4:28 PM
 On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:19 PM, John wrote:
 
  Worry not, God is always in control
 
   So *that's* who is responsible for the current
 financial mess. And  
 here I thought it was the idiots extending credit to the
 credit- 
 unworthy!
 
 
 -- Ed Leafe
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Madigan
And that's why the Feminists hate her. LOL


Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008

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  She's been called a bad mother, an idiot, an
 animal shooter, incompetent,
 and a pig with lipstick.
 
 
 Maybe she is, maybe she isn't - but she's hot
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread richmondeagle
WTF - We aren't intelligent so we have to be defined by the media?

This just gets my goat.

Yeah, and I'll bet you live in flyover country too!

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Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh yeah, good point.  Giving loans to minorities who couldn't qualify really 
 sent the whole housing and credit market into the toilet.  Once again the 
 do-gooders screwed us.

Now i lost my marbles  Madagain.


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RE: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word?

2008-09-16 Thread Kevin S. Goff
Thanks...  :)

Just google Sarah Palin and great rackthe American public has spoken




-Original Message-
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To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word?

Good one!


Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008

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--- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kevin S. Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
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 If you ask me, the femi-nazis are picking on Palin because
 she's a girl
 
 KG
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pete Theisen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:11 AM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word?
 
 Hi Everybody!
 
 http://www.aim.org/aim-column/why-the-media-feminists-hate-palin/
 
 As George Will noted in a column, “Eugenics by
 Abortion,” abortion of 
 Down syndrome children has become part of an insidious
 quest for a 
 “disability-free society.” Will has a personal interest
 in this debate 
 and has written about the ongoing attack in America on a
 whole “category 
 of citizens”―those with Down syndrome. The elderly
 could be the next in 
 line. After all, why else did Democratic Party moneybags
 George Soros 
 initiate a $45 million “Project on Death in America”
 and promote 
 euthanasia and assisted suicide?
 -- 
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RE: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Jean,

 I do agree Kristyne but i do suppose your keyboard has a delete button
 or simply twit him. Nothing to get upset about .

I just found myself getting quite upset over the barrage that was posted
since yesterday. Sorry for the venting. I reached the end of my rope this
morning after all the crap about how Obama would be assassinated by racists
if he won and now all the new crap Pete has been posting over and over and
over... My husband wasn't too happy with me either. It has been quite some
time since something on ProFox riled me so much.

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Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I

2008-09-16 Thread Jerry Wolper
 The Los Angeles Times will be publishing an article on our tomato
 growing.
 It's scheduled to be printed [today].
 
 Hope you enjoy it!

I did; I especially liked the Risk reference coming out of nowhere.

I suppose I officially have to ask: A spreadsheet instead of a 
database?

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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Kristyne McDaniel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jean,

 I do agree Kristyne but i do suppose your keyboard has a delete button
 or simply twit him. Nothing to get upset about .

 I just found myself getting quite upset over the barrage that was posted
 since yesterday. Sorry for the venting. I reached the end of my rope this
 morning after all the crap about how Obama would be assassinated by racists
 if he won and now all the new crap Pete has been posting over and over and
 over... My husband wasn't too happy with me either. It has been quite some
 time since something on ProFox riled me so much.

 Kristyne McDaniel

It's all so stupid i find it amusing..as i said in an earlier post
one needs a degree in quantum mechanics to understand their thought
processes  s

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Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I

2008-09-16 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Jerry Wolper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I suppose I officially have to ask: A spreadsheet instead of a
 database?

s

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Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I

2008-09-16 Thread Bill Anderson
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Jerry Wolper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The Los Angeles Times will be publishing an article on our tomato
  growing.
  It's scheduled to be printed [today].
 
  Hope you enjoy it!

 I did; I especially liked the Risk reference coming out of nowhere.

 I suppose I officially have to ask: A spreadsheet instead of a
 database?


It could have been done with a database, yes, but I used Open Office Calc
and just had a tab for each month, with a couple of tabs at the end for
aggregations. Worked fine.

I imported the spreadsheet into Google Docs and shared it with the reporter
and others. Again, worked just fine.

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RE: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread John
Kevin, you old horn dog, you! You're right, she is a babe!

JH

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 She's been called a bad mother, an idiot, an animal shooter, incompetent,
and a pig with lipstick.


Maybe she is, maybe she isn't - but she's hot





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Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:06 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kevin, you old horn dog, you! You're right, she is a babe!

Easily pleased you are

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RE: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Jean,

 It's all so stupid i find it amusing..as i said in an earlier post
 one needs a degree in quantum mechanics to understand their thought
 processes  s

I agree.

My own theory about racist commentary is that a person might have racist
crap in their brain but if it doesn't come out of their mouth it won't breed
in society.

I don't care what is in someone's mind. I do care if they stick their crap
in front of my face. Crap stinks, after all. At this point in my life I wish
I didn't have to keep hearing and seeing the commentary anymore. Some days I
do feel worn down by it, and then I have difficulty ignoring it.

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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Kristyne McDaniel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My own theory about racist commentary is that a person might have racist
 crap in their brain but if it doesn't come out of their mouth it won't breed
 in society.

 I don't care what is in someone's mind. I do care if they stick their crap
 in front of my face. Crap stinks, after all. At this point in my life I wish
 I didn't have to keep hearing and seeing the commentary anymore. Some days I
 do feel worn down by it, and then I have difficulty ignoring it.

If i have it right you're a little older than me ..so you should know
by now stupidity is a fact of life ..so just 'let it be'

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RE: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Jean,

 If i have it right you're a little older than me ..so you should know
 by now stupidity is a fact of life ..so just 'let it be'

I'm 51 so I'm probably older than a lot of ProFoxers. You are right and I am
doing my best to let it be. My husband thanks you. :-)
  
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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Kristyne McDaniel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jean,

 If i have it right you're a little older than me ..so you should know
 by now stupidity is a fact of life ..so just 'let it be'

 I'm 51 so I'm probably older than a lot of ProFoxers. You are right and I am
 doing my best to let it be. My husband thanks you. :-)

ohoh foot in mouth and all that i'm older than you are, just
serves me right...but the original standpoint still stands.

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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
 Jean,
 
 I do agree Kristyne but i do suppose your keyboard has a delete button
 or simply twit him. Nothing to get upset about .
 
 I just found myself getting quite upset over the barrage that was posted
 since yesterday. Sorry for the venting. I reached the end of my rope this
 morning after all the crap about how Obama would be assassinated by racists
 if he won and now all the new crap Pete has been posting over and over and
 over... My husband wasn't too happy with me either. It has been quite some
 time since something on ProFox riled me so much.

Hi Kristyne!

Oh, well, sorry things have been bad for you. If the racists were to hit 
O-man they would get Biden, so I think O-man is safe, should he be 
elected. Not to worry.
-- 
Regards,

Pete
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Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Jean Laeremans wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:06 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kevin, you old horn dog, you! You're right, she is a babe!
 
 Easily pleased you are

Hi Jean!

Post a link to any political figure you think is prettier.
-- 
Regards,

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Re: [OT] UK?s first official sharia courts

2008-09-16 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Adam Buckland wrote:
 Proof?
 
 
 I'm sooo glad you don't travel abroad as a representative for the US...
 

LOL
He does man. He does.
He's just done it.


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 Subject: Re: [OT] UK?s first official sharia courts
 
 Make no mistake, Barack Hussein Obama IS A MUSLIM!  Of course he wants
 Sharia law.
 




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Re: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts

2008-09-16 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Bob Calco wrote:
 Problem is, Bob, that just by hearing your POV's I can tell you would
 applaud my murdering if I were in any way in the path you think your
 country should take. 
 
 Problem is you don't really hear my POV. You hear some caricature of my POV
 that I barely recognize.
 
 The idea that I'd be OK with your murder is simply ridiculous.
 
 I would like you to elaborate on what you think my POV is, though. Perhaps I
 can clarify.
 


Are you ok with the invasion to Irak? Do you stand for 'our poor boys
abroad'? Those same boys who choose to be trained to kill and choose to
go to other countries and kill, torture and rape? Are those boys under
US law or under Sharia?



 We have a saying Cuando las barbas del vecino
 veas
 cortar, pon las tuyas a remojar (when you see they are shaving your
 neighbour's beard start wetting yours), so I don't think I should wait
 till you turn against me, it might be too late.
 BTW, you are so loving that I think I bear the duty of explaining
 with endurance and love that war is murder and hate and rape and
 terrible things. There is no love in war, just FYI.
 
 Will you take a step back and tell me when the subject of this thread became
 war?

The minute you took the flag for hatred of everything muslim
(jew/chinese/japanese/etc..). Do you take me for a fool? All this rant
stems from your country's state of undeclared war to muslims. Twenty
years ago you wouldn't even know what Sharia is and you would give a
damn about Brit law allowing civil cases to be judged under it.

 
 We are talking about the introduction of one framework of law (Sharia), into
 another framework of law (British common law and constitutional law
 generally)

None of which you know at all.

, based on entirely different (not to mention inimical) principles
 (not to mention assumption about human rights). I note that they are
 incompatible

So it is your humble opinion that Brit lawyers, judges, and parliament
know nothing about their own laws, that they didn't give the matter a
moment's thought, and that it is your mission to enlighten them.

; Helio observes that the adherents of Sharia will not think of
 it the way the high-minded Brits, by allowing it, intend it--a point with
 which I concur, albeit Helio and I arrive at this conclusion by different
 paths of reason.

Funny that you two can only coincide in the common hate towards a third
party. Wonder what this reveals about you two.

 
 At no point in this thread did I (or Helio) proclaim war was love and peace
 and happiness and everything sweet, nor do I promote hate. I don't profess
 to have the most tightly reasoned set of convictions ever put forth by a
 mortal, but I do make an effort to be honest and sincere about my evolving
 views, even where they conflict internally or with some party line. We are
 all learning as we go.

And I make an effort to highlight the contradictions, hatreds, and
prejudices in your set of convictions.
It's just that my loving nature sees you in the path to hell and wants
to save you from satan's claws, it's for your own good.

 
 My opposition to Sharia is in part based on a conviction--yes based on
 study--that it is hate-filled and indeed evil.

Again! So you are telling us Brit parliament and their lawyers and
judges are stupid people that have not studied the Sharia as profoundly
as you have. Go figure! These uncivilized Europeans!

 So your lecture is addressing
 a point that I did not make--you seem to insist that I'm the hater. You
 sound like you enjoy giving such lectures, but I'm not clear at all where
 you get off assuming you know me well enough to jump to any conclusions
 about the motivations of my heart.

How did it go? You shall be known by your acts? or something like that.

 This wouldn't matter if you didn't go
 beyond mere banter or all-in-good-fun poking to descend to personal
 analysis.

You should read The Godfather. It is ALWAYS personal.

 
 That said, I do enjoy your rants.
  

Thanks, so do I.





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Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jean Laeremans wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:06 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kevin, you old horn dog, you! You're right, she is a babe!

 Easily pleased you are

 Hi Jean!

 Post a link to any political figure you think is prettier.
 --

http://tinyurl.com/6e45um

A+
jml


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RE: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Kevin S. Goff
 Some days I do feel worn down by it, and then I have difficulty ignoring
it.  



Kristyneyou need to discover the medicinal benefits of Guinness and
Xanax...for years it helped me cope with some of the Foxknobs on the UT








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Re: [OT] financial crisis - was Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread KAM.covad
It has nothing to do with politics. Money was loaned to people without any 
consideration of whether they could pay it back. What do
you think will happen? We need some kind of regulation that prevents a loan 
from being resold unless the borrower has at least 20%
down payment invested. That would limit the failure to the specific financial 
institution that loaned the money. Sure, there are
some people who will default after putting down 20% or more, but they are 
probably limited to people who lose their job or some
kind of event like that.

Those 'loans' were packaged up into some kind of 'bond' and sold as 'gold'. 
Then many of those 'bonds' were packaged into larger
'bonds' and sold to other financial institutions, this went on over and over so 
that there was something like $1 actual value for
every $40 'bond'. There is no telling how deep this goes. The only good thing 
that anyone can say is that some of those loans are
good and will be repaid. The problem is that no one knows what is good and what 
is bad.



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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn


On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:19 PM, John wrote:

 Worry not, God is always in control

So *that's* who is responsible for the current financial mess. And
here I thought it was the idiots extending credit to the credit-
unworthy!


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Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Jean Laeremans wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jean Laeremans wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:06 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kevin, you old horn dog, you! You're right, she is a babe!
 Easily pleased you are
 Hi Jean!

 Post a link to any political figure you think is prettier.
 --
 
 http://tinyurl.com/6e45um

Hi Jean!

Niet gevonden. Not found. So there are no prettier political figures 
than Sarah Palin! Thank you.
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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
 Jean,
 
 It's all so stupid i find it amusing..as i said in an earlier post
 one needs a degree in quantum mechanics to understand their thought
 processes  s
 
 I agree.
 
 My own theory about racist commentary is that a person might have racist
 crap in their brain but if it doesn't come out of their mouth it won't breed
 in society.
 
 I don't care what is in someone's mind. I do care if they stick their crap
 in front of my face. Crap stinks, after all. At this point in my life I wish
 I didn't have to keep hearing and seeing the commentary anymore. Some days I
 do feel worn down by it, and then I have difficulty ignoring it.
 

If you use ThunderBird you go to Tools/Message Filters and there you
send his mails directly to the trash bin. It will be good for you and it
will also be good for me. You see, I've filtered him and Madagain but
whenever you answer them quoting their posts or flame them like in this
message you remind me they exist.
There is no possible dialog with the likes of them, if you fight with
pigs you may win or you may loose but you will certainly get dirty.


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[OT] Palin is the candidate, Fiorina is an advisor

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26743182/

C'mon Carley, it was a joke already. Sarah thought it was funny, for 
heaven's sake. Don't act like a D, it isn't becoming.
-- 
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Re: [OT] financial crisis - was Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread Ricardo Araoz
KAM.covad wrote:
 It has nothing to do with politics. Money was loaned to people without any 
 consideration of whether they could pay it back. What do
 you think will happen? We need some kind of regulation that prevents a loan 
 from being resold unless the borrower has at least 20%
 down payment invested. That would limit the failure to the specific financial 
 institution that loaned the money. Sure, there are
 some people who will default after putting down 20% or more, but they are 
 probably limited to people who lose their job or some
 kind of event like that.
 
 Those 'loans' were packaged up into some kind of 'bond' and sold as 'gold'. 
 Then many of those 'bonds' were packaged into larger
 'bonds' and sold to other financial institutions, this went on over and over 
 so that there was something like $1 actual value for
 every $40 'bond'. There is no telling how deep this goes. The only good thing 
 that anyone can say is that some of those loans are
 good and will be repaid. The problem is that no one knows what is good and 
 what is bad.
 

Mmmm... this reminds me of an exchange of posts about economy we had
here in OT. I maintained things would fall apart, can't remember who (he
knew a lot of economics) was refuting me. But to whoever it was
TOLD YA!
;c)

Read Roubini's blog, he's being predicting exactly what is happening for
a long time now. He was mocked by the likes of Lehman's people, he is
being paid attention now.



 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn
 
 
 On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:19 PM, John wrote:
 
 Worry not, God is always in control
 
 So *that's* who is responsible for the current financial mess. And
 here I thought it was the idiots extending credit to the credit-
 unworthy!
 
 
 -- Ed Leafe
 


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[OT] And now, the REAL truth.

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,423443,00.html

“... the media is on very dangerous ground. I think that when you see 
them going through every single expense report that Governor Palin ever 
filed, if they don't do that for all four of the candidates, they're on 
very dangerous ground. I think the media so far has been the biggest 
loser in this race. And they continue to have growing credibility 
problems I think that the media is doing the kinds of stories on 
Palin that they're not doing on the other candidates.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/11/politics/politicalplayers/main4442492.shtml
-- 
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RE: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts

2008-09-16 Thread Bob Calco
Ricardo:

I am traveling tomorrow Orlando to DC for my step-daughter's wedding this
weekend, so you won't hear much from me till next week. 

  I would like you to elaborate on what you think my POV is, though.
 Perhaps I
  can clarify.
 
 Are you ok with the invasion to Irak? Do you stand for 'our poor boys
 abroad'? Those same boys who choose to be trained to kill and choose to
 go to other countries and kill, torture and rape? Are those boys
 under
 US law or under Sharia?

My views on war generally and the Iraq war specifically are not easy to
express in one email post. 

I shall take some time soon to elaborate, but suffice to say:

1. In hind sight I think the Iraq war was not in the strategic interest of
the US, though it seemed so at that time, and it had nothing whatever to do
with oil or WMDs, then or now. 

2. Having said that, it has achieved good things as well as bad, and in the
big scheme of things over the long-term, it may have proven necessary and
even beneficial, whether it ever benefits the US directly or not. The
categorization of our reasons for war and the conduct of the war has been
myopic, lopsided, and wrong in many respects.

3. All war is bad, and most wars have their roots in fallen human nature.
There is a time for war, and a time for peace. When it's time for war,
everyone wants their guys to win it, and the other guys to lose it. Partisan
politics skews this a bit, but only when things are going too well--and
not when the chips are really down.

  Will you take a step back and tell me when the subject of this thread
 became
  war?
 
 The minute you took the flag for hatred of everything muslim
 (jew/chinese/japanese/etc..). Do you take me for a fool? All this rant
 stems from your country's state of undeclared war to muslims. Twenty
 years ago you wouldn't even know what Sharia is and you would give a
 damn about Brit law allowing civil cases to be judged under it.

I would say you are clairvoyant, except for the fact that you are dead
wrong. I find it amusing that you are so confident you know what I knew (or
didn't know) at some time in the past.

I don't take you for a fool but you do seem to present yourself when you
attempt to expound reverse prophecy like this.

  We are talking about the introduction of one framework of law
 (Sharia), into
  another framework of law (British common law and constitutional law
  generally)
 
 None of which you know at all.

So, as you are apparently far more highly qualified than I to render an
opinion on these weighty matters, am I incorrect in pointing out that they
(Sharia and Brittish common law) are based on entirely different precepts of
law, justice and human rights?

If so please elaborate, Dr. Araoz.

 
 , based on entirely different (not to mention inimical) principles
  (not to mention assumption about human rights). I note that they are
  incompatible
 
 So it is your humble opinion that Brit lawyers, judges, and
 parliament
 know nothing about their own laws, that they didn't give the matter a
 moment's thought, and that it is your mission to enlighten them.

I know actual British folks who are very much into the debate. Some are for
it, many against it. It was not a universally acclaimed decision; many
people in England have deep reservations about it. Others take a poo-poo
attitude, like our very own Adam Buckland (I'll be having a fine single malt
scotch, straight up, this weekend, and shall surely think of him then).

I'm not on any mission to enlighten you. This does not even appear possible.

 ; Helio observes that the adherents of Sharia will not think of
  it the way the high-minded Brits, by allowing it, intend it--a point
 with
  which I concur, albeit Helio and I arrive at this conclusion by
 different
  paths of reason.
 
 Funny that you two can only coincide in the common hate towards a third
 party. Wonder what this reveals about you two.
 

We agree mixing Sharia law with any form of Western constitutional law as
inherently contradictory, and detrimental to the latter. As far as I know,
this is all Helio agrees with me about. It has zip, nada, zilch to do with
hate--I think your obsession on this topic says more about you and your
hyper-judgmental-ism than it does about either of us.

To be distressed about the logical consequence of something to the point
that you speak out against it (yea, even with humor and hyperbole) is by no
means the same thing as hating somebody. I wish you'd stop reducing the
conversation to our personal motives, which you ignorantly claim to
understand.

For example, I'm quite sure you don't hate me, just because you misrepresent
my opinions. But I wonder sometimes...

 And I make an effort to highlight the contradictions, hatreds, and
 prejudices in your set of convictions.

Luke 6:42.

 It's just that my loving nature sees you in the path to hell and wants
 to save you from satan's claws, it's for your own good.

Now this is an interesting statement. Pray tell, what can I do to 

[OT] Brit kid tries to eat cheap for a week.

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/cheap-thrills-can-you-live-on-a-pound-a-day-931859.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/693zcy
-- 
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[OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread ross

I have not read all of Pete's links, but a sampling of the first ten I
found indicated that he was ridiculing behavior and attitude, not race.

Best to all,

Ross




 Kristyne McDaniel wrote:

 There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT] anymore because of
 the
 racist messages from Pete Theisen and the BS partisan nonsense about the
 election. You'd think there was nothing else going on in the U.S.
 besides
 the election and beating down African-Americans like the Democratic
 candidate who is a first-generation American with a Kenyan father.

 GIVE ME A BREAK! I hate seeing this over the top blatant racist stuff
 over
 and over again in the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing
 to a
 video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the SOURCE.

 Hi Kristyne!

 Racist? I used to be a liberal until I became a Social Worker.

 The endless sensitivity training, which in those days consisted of one
 or another street person pointing his finger in your face and saying
 You beeze a raysuhst, muthuhfuckuh! Then 40 years of affirmative
 action which meant I had to be relegated to the white promotion and
 seniority list or else change careers.

 Finally, the promotion of high-school dropouts to superior positions
 over me because they had been discriminated for the last 400 or their 23
 years. This is to say nothing of the welfare clients urinating in the
 elevators where we worked. You knows hows it is, man. When yo gotta go
 yo gotta go. Racist, me? How could you think it?
 --
 Regards,

 Pete
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Re: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts

2008-09-16 Thread Helio Wakasugui
Ricardo,

Have you been using your jump to conclusions mat recently?


HW

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 ; Helio observes that the adherents of Sharia will not think of
  it the way the high-minded Brits, by allowing it, intend it--a point with
  which I concur, albeit Helio and I arrive at this conclusion by different
  paths of reason.

 Funny that you two can only coincide in the common hate towards a third
 party. Wonder what this reveals about you two.




-- 

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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have not read all of Pete's links, but a sampling of the first ten I
 found indicated that he was ridiculing behavior and attitude, not race.

 Kristyne McDaniel wrote:

 There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT] anymore because of
 the racist messages from Pete Theisen

 Racist? I used to be a liberal

Hi Ross!

Very perceptive! Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas and Condoleezza Rice are 
people of color I could vote for, but they aren't running.

Barrack Hussein Obama is far too liberal for me, and to the extent that 
he has violated the campaign finance laws he is of a league with the 
boys on the wanted posters. If that makes him an n-word it makes him an 
n-word.
-- 
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Re: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts

2008-09-16 Thread Helio Wakasugui
Not only that. I despise the idea of using any kind of religious based law,
even if it were to regulate how people use their latrine.

HW

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 We agree mixing Sharia law with any form of Western constitutional law as
 inherently contradictory, and detrimental to the latter. As far as I know,
 this is all Helio agrees with me about. It has zip, nada, zilch to do with
 hate--I think your obsession on this topic says more about you and your
 hyper-judgmental-ism than it does about either of us.




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[OT] Green Card holders for (candidate)

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody!

If you have a Green Card you can contribute. And Illegals can 
volunteer if they are not paid staffers!

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/foreign.shtml

Doesn't mention 527 contributions. I bet there are a ton of these!

Do American Citizens attempt to influence foreign elections? I mean, 
outside of formal regime change a la Saddam.
-- 
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RE: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Ricardo,

 I've filtered him and Madagain but whenever you
 answer them quoting their posts or flame them 
 like in this message you remind me they exist.

In my own feeble defense, I did not respond to Pete. I started a new thread.

 There is no possible dialog with the likes of them, if you fight with
 pigs you may win or you may loose but you will certainly get dirty.

I don't like the idea that anyone is unworthy of conversation. I do,
however, delete nearly all of Pete's messages unread. The few I look at get
deleted quickly too.

I hope to never again respond to a Pete Theisen message. I'm exhausted with
trying to teach the proverbial pig to sing.
  
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RE: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts

2008-09-16 Thread Bob Calco
 Ricardo,
 
 Have you been using your jump to conclusions mat recently?

I think he's been using his jump to conclusions *trampoline*, with Twister
overlaid on it.

- Bob

 HW
 
 On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
  Funny that you two can only coincide in the common hate towards a
 third
  party. Wonder what this reveals about you two.




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Re: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts

2008-09-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Helio Wakasugui wrote:
 Not only that. I despise the idea of using any kind of religious based law,
 even if it were to regulate how people use their latrine.


Hi Helio!

For shame that you should say that!

12 Thou shalt have a place also without the camp, whither thou shalt go 
forth abroad:

13 And thou shalt have a paddle upon thy weapon; and it shall be, when 
thou wilt ease thyself abroad, thou shalt dig therewith, and shalt turn 
back and cover that which cometh from thee:

Deuteronomy 23: 12, 13
-- 
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RE: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts

2008-09-16 Thread Bob Calco
 
 Not only that. I despise the idea of using any kind of religious based
 law,
 even if it were to regulate how people use their latrine.

All law is morality based. The distinction between religious and secular is
something of a canard.

Even secular law has some basis in religious beliefs. Endowed by our
creator ... one nation under God ... God save the queen...and all that.
And most overtly religious laws, like Sharia and the theocracy of the Old
Testament, end up having to deal with mundane things, like who will collect
the garbage or clean the latrine, at some point.

I object to mixing incompatible systems knowingly. It's more important that
a people live peaceably with their traditions and beliefs than that
everybody believe and do the same thing.

I object to certain systems on the basis of their metaphysical grounding
(some religious, some secular), but don't care if someone else wants to live
in such a system (somewhere else) as long as they don't want to slit my
throat because I disagree.

I do want to agree with the essence of your statement, Helio, but it's just
not practical, precisely because law is basically state-enforced morality.
Somebody's morality will win on election day. I think the bigger problem is
making the law more about the mundane stuff and less about the moral stuff
if at all possible. 

But when a judge plucks a new constitutional right out of his arse, imposing
it on the legislators of all fifty states, contrary to the mores of the
times, then there will be a reaction. It's sad but the reality of human
affairs is that people don't agree on most things, and will find a way to
disagree about the rest, when you're forced to debate stuff. Just look at OT
as a microcosm of this problem. ;-)

I was happily drifting into a more or less apolitical state until the
election rolled around. I look forward to returning to it after November
4

...ah, who am I kidding! ;)

- Bob

 
 HW
 
 On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
 
  We agree mixing Sharia law with any form of Western constitutional
 law as
  inherently contradictory, and detrimental to the latter. As far as I
 know,
  this is all Helio agrees with me about. It has zip, nada, zilch to do
 with
  hate--I think your obsession on this topic says more about you and
 your
  hyper-judgmental-ism than it does about either of us.
 




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RE: [OT] It's not really big brother

2008-09-16 Thread John
http://tinyurl.com/5b2wfg

John Harvey



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Re: [OT] And now, the REAL truth.

2008-09-16 Thread richmondeagle
“... the media is on very dangerous ground. I think that when you see 
them going through every single expense report that Governor Palin ever 
filed, if they don't do that for all four of the candidates, they're on 
very dangerous ground. I think the media so far has been the biggest 
loser in this race. And they continue to have growing credibility 
problems I think that the media is doing the kinds of stories on 
Palin that they're not doing on the other candidates.”

and now, if things go well, not only will their misplaced vitriol backfire on 
their precious obamessiah, the most gracious, but will help us finally drive a 
stake through the heart of the mainstream media's aire of objectivity, and 
through the heart of their influence in this country... like Dan Rather a 
hundred times over! 

--
Larry Miller



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Re: [OT] And now, the REAL truth.

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Madigan
The Electoral College map is rapidly turning red.  Florida and Ohio are now 
firmly in the McCain camp.  Michigan and Pennsylvania are tied.  New Jersey and 
New York are now only leaning towards obama.

This may be a landslide like Clinton/Dole Reagan/Carter or Bush/Dukakis.

He's done.


Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008

Right Wing Mike
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--- On Tue, 9/16/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] And now, the REAL truth.
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 11:55 PM
 “... the media is on very dangerous ground. I think
 that when you see 
 them going through every single expense report that
 Governor Palin ever 
 filed, if they don't do that for all four of the
 candidates, they're on 
 very dangerous ground. I think the media so far has
 been the biggest 
 loser in this race. And they continue to have growing
 credibility 
 problems I think that the media is doing the kinds
 of stories on 
 Palin that they're not doing on the other
 candidates.”
 
 and now, if things go well, not only will their misplaced
 vitriol backfire on their precious obamessiah, the most
 gracious, but will help us finally drive a stake through the
 heart of the mainstream media's aire of objectivity, and
 through the heart of their influence in this country... like
 Dan Rather a hundred times over! 
 
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 Larry Miller
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Madigan
Since you won't be reading this Ricardo, I've think you're a swell fellow. LMAO




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--- On Tue, 9/16/08, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 8:02 PM
 Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
  Jean,
  
  It's all so stupid i find it amusing..as i
 said in an earlier post
  one needs a degree in quantum mechanics to
 understand their thought
  processes  s
  
  I agree.
  
  My own theory about racist commentary is that a person
 might have racist
  crap in their brain but if it doesn't come out of
 their mouth it won't breed
  in society.
  
  I don't care what is in someone's mind. I do
 care if they stick their crap
  in front of my face. Crap stinks, after all. At this
 point in my life I wish
  I didn't have to keep hearing and seeing the
 commentary anymore. Some days I
  do feel worn down by it, and then I have difficulty
 ignoring it.
  
 
 If you use ThunderBird you go to Tools/Message Filters and
 there you
 send his mails directly to the trash bin. It will be good
 for you and it
 will also be good for me. You see, I've filtered him
 and Madagain but
 whenever you answer them quoting their posts or flame them
 like in this
 message you remind me they exist.
 There is no possible dialog with the likes of them, if you
 fight with
 pigs you may win or you may loose but you will certainly
 get dirty.
 
 
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