Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I
Bill Anderson wrote: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-2008sep16,0,6019086,full.storyhttp://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-2008sep16,0,6019086,full.story http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-pg,0,1648752.photogallery?1http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-pg,0,1648752.photogallery?1 Very cool. I had always thought that there was no such thing as too many tomatoes - now I'm not sure! The article didn't say, but surely SOME of those tomatoes ended up as salsa? :-) Have you ever tried Llama poop as a fertilizer? My friend Jules owns llamas and uses that, and her garden looks like Findhorn! Great job ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I
I like to eat tomatoes, please send a sample. E. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Colored Reverend critical of Bristol snoops
Black people are funny. Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] Colored Reverend critical of Bristol snoops To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 7:27 AM Hi Everybody! http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr09-03-08.html -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word?
If you ask me, the femi-nazis are picking on Palin because she's a girl KG -Original Message- From: Pete Theisen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:11 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word? Hi Everybody! http://www.aim.org/aim-column/why-the-media-feminists-hate-palin/ As George Will noted in a column, “Eugenics by Abortion,” abortion of Down syndrome children has become part of an insidious quest for a “disability-free society.” Will has a personal interest in this debate and has written about the ongoing attack in America on a whole “category of citizens”―those with Down syndrome. The elderly could be the next in line. After all, why else did Democratic Party moneybags George Soros initiate a $45 million “Project on Death in America” and promote euthanasia and assisted suicide? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Everyone, There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT] anymore because of the racist messages from Pete Theisen and the BS partisan nonsense about the election. You'd think there was nothing else going on in the U.S. besides the election and beating down African-Americans like the Democratic candidate who is a first-generation American with a Kenyan father. GIVE ME A BREAK! I hate seeing this over the top blatant racist stuff over and over again in the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing to a video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the SOURCE. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word?
Good one! Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kevin S. Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kevin S. Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:48 PM If you ask me, the femi-nazis are picking on Palin because she's a girl KG -Original Message- From: Pete Theisen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:11 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word? Hi Everybody! http://www.aim.org/aim-column/why-the-media-feminists-hate-palin/ As George Will noted in a column, “Eugenics by Abortion,” abortion of Down syndrome children has become part of an insidious quest for a “disability-free society.” Will has a personal interest in this debate and has written about the ongoing attack in America on a whole “category of citizens”―those with Down syndrome. The elderly could be the next in line. After all, why else did Democratic Party moneybags George Soros initiate a $45 million “Project on Death in America” and promote euthanasia and assisted suicide? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
It's not racist if what he says is true. Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:50 PM Everyone, There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT] anymore because of the racist messages from Pete Theisen and the BS partisan nonsense about the election. You'd think there was nothing else going on in the U.S. besides the election and beating down African-Americans like the Democratic candidate who is a first-generation American with a Kenyan father. GIVE ME A BREAK! I hate seeing this over the top blatant racist stuff over and over again in the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing to a video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the SOURCE. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
But when you keep flogging the same old horse, it becomes meaningless. Dogging the same old thing does not winn points for your opinion, it just makes you look less and less intelligent., as if your have reached the end of your thoughts and have nothing else to say. Jim Michael Madigan wrote: It's not racist if what he says is true. Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:50 PM Everyone, There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT] anymore because of the racist messages from Pete Theisen and the BS partisan nonsense about the election. You'd think there was nothing else going on in the U.S. besides the election and beating down African-Americans like the Democratic candidate who is a first-generation American with a Kenyan father. GIVE ME A BREAK! I hate seeing this over the top blatant racist stuff over and over again in the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing to a video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the SOURCE. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do agree Kristyne but i do suppose your keyboard has a delete button or simply twit him. Nothing to get upset about . A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Well that's another issue. He's not racist, maybe he's just redundant. Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, James Roark(The Dogstar Group) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: James Roark(The Dogstar Group) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:37 PM But when you keep flogging the same old horse, it becomes meaningless. Dogging the same old thing does not winn points for your opinion, it just makes you look less and less intelligent., as if your have reached the end of your thoughts and have nothing else to say. Jim Michael Madigan wrote: It's not racist if what he says is true. Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:50 PM Everyone, There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT] anymore because of the racist messages from Pete Theisen and the BS partisan nonsense about the election. You'd think there was nothing else going on in the U.S. besides the election and beating down African-Americans like the Democratic candidate who is a first-generation American with a Kenyan father. GIVE ME A BREAK! I hate seeing this over the top blatant racist stuff over and over again in the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing to a video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the SOURCE. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:37 PM, James Roark(The Dogstar Group) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But when you keep flogging the same old horse, it becomes meaningless. Dogging the same old thing does not winn points for your opinion, it just makes you look less and less intelligent., as if your have reached the end of your thoughts and have nothing else to say. Jim I do find it quite amusing. It reminds me of treadmill horses. A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Really... Sorry I didn't check the spelung G I am in the middle of 2 different web site development and just couldn't resist the reply to K. Jim Jean Laeremans wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:37 PM, James Roark(The Dogstar Group) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But when you keep flogging the same old horse, it becomes meaningless. Dogging the same old thing does not winn points for your opinion, it just makes you look less and less intelligent., as if your have reached the end of your thoughts and have nothing else to say. Jim I do find it quite amusing. It reminds me of treadmill horses. A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT] anymore because of the racist messages from Pete Theisen and the BS partisan nonsense about the election. You'd think there was nothing else going on in the U.S. besides the election and beating down African-Americans like the Democratic candidate who is a first-generation American with a Kenyan father. GIVE ME A BREAK! I hate seeing this over the top blatant racist stuff over and over again in the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing to a video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the SOURCE. Hi Kristyne! Racist? I used to be a liberal until I became a Social Worker. The endless sensitivity training, which in those days consisted of one or another street person pointing his finger in your face and saying You beeze a raysuhst, muthuhfuckuh! Then 40 years of affirmative action which meant I had to be relegated to the white promotion and seniority list or else change careers. Finally, the promotion of high-school dropouts to superior positions over me because they had been discriminated for the last 400 or their 23 years. This is to say nothing of the welfare clients urinating in the elevators where we worked. You knows hows it is, man. When yo gotta go yo gotta go. Racist, me? How could you think it? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
James Roark(The Dogstar Group) wrote: Really... Sorry I didn't check the spelung G I am in the middle of 2 different web site development and just couldn't resist the reply to K. Jim Hi Jim! You just wonn a point. On the other hand, Leland offers his special spell checker for only $8. But when you keep flogging the same old horse, it becomes meaningless. Dogging the same old thing does not winn points for your opinion, it just makes you look less and less intelligent., as if your have reached the end of your thoughts and have nothing else to say. Jim I do find it quite amusing. It reminds me of treadmill horses. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Sarah Pailn
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/sarah-palin-phenomenon-doomed/story.aspx?guid=E68FE5D2-7747-4170-B7DC-8EEC17B4D6F5dist=SecMostRead or http://tinyurl.com/6zn83n I like the line... I'll be interested to see how Palin -- not to mention McCain and the Republican campaign machine -- reacts when the media's disillusionment sets in for real. Their actions may determine the course of the 2008 race. rant WTF - We aren't intelligent so we have to be defined by the media? This just gets my goat. /rant Jim ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing to a video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the SOURCE. Hi Kristyne! Would have never thought YOU to be closed-minded, of ALL people. http://everything2.com/e2node/Why%2520can%2527t%2520whites%2520use%2520the%2520word%2520%2522nigger%253F%2522 Or http://tinyurl.com/6oavfr Here's another link to not look at, but perhaps some others might. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Sarah Pailn
Worry not, God is always in control John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:12 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [OT] Sarah Pailn http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/sarah-palin-phenomenon-doomed/story.as px?guid=E68FE5D2-7747-4170-B7DC-8EEC17B4D6F5dist=SecMostRead or http://tinyurl.com/6zn83n I like the line... I'll be interested to see how Palin -- not to mention McCain and the Republican campaign machine -- reacts when the media's disillusionment sets in for real. Their actions may determine the course of the 2008 race. rant WTF - We aren't intelligent so we have to be defined by the media? This just gets my goat. /rant Jim [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn
This is a silly article. This guy thinks Palin has gotten GOOD PRESS? She's been called a bad mother, an idiot, an animal shooter, incompetent, and a pig with lipstick. How can the coverage get any worse? Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] Sarah Pailn To: profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 4:11 PM http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/sarah-palin-phenomenon-doomed/story.aspx?guid=E68FE5D2-7747-4170-B7DC-8EEC17B4D6F5dist=SecMostRead or http://tinyurl.com/6zn83n I like the line... I'll be interested to see how Palin -- not to mention McCain and the Republican campaign machine -- reacts when the media's disillusionment sets in for real. Their actions may determine the course of the 2008 race. rant WTF - We aren't intelligent so we have to be defined by the media? This just gets my goat. /rant Jim ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/sarah-palin-phenomenon-doomed/story.aspx?guid=E68FE5D2-7747-4170-B7DC-8EEC17B4D6F5dist=SecMostRead or http://tinyurl.com/6zn83n I'll be interested to see how Palin -- not to mention McCain and the Republican campaign machine -- reacts when the media's disillusionment sets in for real. Their actions may determine the course of the 2008 race. WTF - We aren't intelligent so we have to be defined by the media? Hi Jim! I was at the R party headquarters today. The Palin stuff just came in when they opened at 9 and by 11 it was almost gone already. I got a button, at least. I hope we get more because everyone I know wants one. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Reminds me of Mike Dukakis who would let his wife be raped and murdered without getting angry at the poor savages. Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 4:14 PM Kristyne McDaniel wrote: the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing to a video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the SOURCE. Hi Kristyne! Would have never thought YOU to be closed-minded, of ALL people. http://everything2.com/e2node/Why%2520can%2527t%2520whites%2520use%2520the%2520word%2520%2522nigger%253F%2522 Or http://tinyurl.com/6oavfr Here's another link to not look at, but perhaps some others might. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool, so you specialize in tomatoes. Are you thinking about doing any of this for profit? We've toyed with the idea, basically just trying to sell our overage. Perhaps we'll tie in to a local restaurant. My wife and I just became certified Master Gardeners in August, we work out of the Pasco county UF/IFAS (University of Florida Institute of Food and Agriculture) extension office. Before we started the master gardening program we didn't know we would end up being slaves to the county agent. g OK, that's a serious gardener g. Bill --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Anderson wrote: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-2008sep16,0,6019086,full.story http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-2008sep16,0,6019086,full.story http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-pg,0,1648752.photogallery?1 http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tomato16-pg,0,1648752.photogallery?1 Very cool. I had always thought that there was no such thing as too many tomatoes - now I'm not sure! The article didn't say, but surely SOME of those tomatoes ended up as salsa? :-) Have you ever tried Llama poop as a fertilizer? My friend Jules owns llamas and uses that, and her garden looks like Findhorn! Great job Turns out the article came out *today*, front page (no joke), left hand column below the fold. Picture on page A15. And yes, some ended up as *terrific* salsa. (Llama poop) -- nope, haven't tried it but if I could, I'd probably try it. Bill --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn
On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:19 PM, John wrote: Worry not, God is always in control So *that's* who is responsible for the current financial mess. And here I thought it was the idiots extending credit to the credit- unworthy! -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Eurico Chagas Filho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like to eat tomatoes, please send a sample. E. We can start the PVTC (ProFox Virtual Tomato Club)! Bill --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn
Michael Madigan wrote: This is a silly article. This guy thinks Palin has gotten GOOD PRESS? Hi Michael! In politics, good press is any press, as long as they spell your name right. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I
On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Bill Anderson wrote: I like to eat tomatoes, please send a sample. E. We can start the PVTC (ProFox Virtual Tomato Club)! Can you post them on the download page on my site? ;-) We can make downloading them very efficient! Here's the BitTorrent client I use: http://sarwat.net/bittorrent/ -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Bill Anderson wrote: I like to eat tomatoes, please send a sample. E. We can start the PVTC (ProFox Virtual Tomato Club)! Can you post them on the download page on my site? ;-) We can make downloading them very efficient! Here's the BitTorrent client I use: http://sarwat.net/bittorrent/ -- Ed Leafe No need to -- everyone can munch on these -- http://socaltomatoes.blogspot.com/search/label/Image Enjoy! s Bill --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Sarah Pailn
She's been called a bad mother, an idiot, an animal shooter, incompetent, and a pig with lipstick. Maybe she is, maybe she isn't - but she's hot ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I
On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Bill Anderson wrote: No need to -- everyone can munch on these -- http://socaltomatoes.blogspot.com/search/label/Image Enjoy! s I tried, but I got pieces of glass in my mouth trying to eat them from the monitor. Guess I should print them out first! -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn
Oh yeah, good point. Giving loans to minorities who couldn't qualify really sent the whole housing and credit market into the toilet. Once again the do-gooders screwed us. Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 4:28 PM On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:19 PM, John wrote: Worry not, God is always in control So *that's* who is responsible for the current financial mess. And here I thought it was the idiots extending credit to the credit- unworthy! -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Sarah Pailn
And that's why the Feminists hate her. LOL Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kevin S. Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kevin S. Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Sarah Pailn To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 4:40 PM She's been called a bad mother, an idiot, an animal shooter, incompetent, and a pig with lipstick. Maybe she is, maybe she isn't - but she's hot ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn
WTF - We aren't intelligent so we have to be defined by the media? This just gets my goat. Yeah, and I'll bet you live in flyover country too! -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah, good point. Giving loans to minorities who couldn't qualify really sent the whole housing and credit market into the toilet. Once again the do-gooders screwed us. Now i lost my marbles Madagain. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word?
Thanks... :) Just google Sarah Palin and great rackthe American public has spoken -Original Message- From: Michael Madigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 2:53 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word? Good one! Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kevin S. Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kevin S. Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:48 PM If you ask me, the femi-nazis are picking on Palin because she's a girl KG -Original Message- From: Pete Theisen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:11 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: [OT] Why hate Palin? The A-word? Hi Everybody! http://www.aim.org/aim-column/why-the-media-feminists-hate-palin/ As George Will noted in a column, “Eugenics by Abortion,” abortion of Down syndrome children has become part of an insidious quest for a “disability-free society.” Will has a personal interest in this debate and has written about the ongoing attack in America on a whole “category of citizens”―those with Down syndrome. The elderly could be the next in line. After all, why else did Democratic Party moneybags George Soros initiate a $45 million “Project on Death in America” and promote euthanasia and assisted suicide? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Jean, I do agree Kristyne but i do suppose your keyboard has a delete button or simply twit him. Nothing to get upset about . I just found myself getting quite upset over the barrage that was posted since yesterday. Sorry for the venting. I reached the end of my rope this morning after all the crap about how Obama would be assassinated by racists if he won and now all the new crap Pete has been posting over and over and over... My husband wasn't too happy with me either. It has been quite some time since something on ProFox riled me so much. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I
The Los Angeles Times will be publishing an article on our tomato growing. It's scheduled to be printed [today]. Hope you enjoy it! I did; I especially liked the Risk reference coming out of nowhere. I suppose I officially have to ask: A spreadsheet instead of a database? -Jerry Wolper [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean, I do agree Kristyne but i do suppose your keyboard has a delete button or simply twit him. Nothing to get upset about . I just found myself getting quite upset over the barrage that was posted since yesterday. Sorry for the venting. I reached the end of my rope this morning after all the crap about how Obama would be assassinated by racists if he won and now all the new crap Pete has been posting over and over and over... My husband wasn't too happy with me either. It has been quite some time since something on ProFox riled me so much. Kristyne McDaniel It's all so stupid i find it amusing..as i said in an earlier post one needs a degree in quantum mechanics to understand their thought processes s A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Jerry Wolper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose I officially have to ask: A spreadsheet instead of a database? s A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Tomato Article Featuring My Wife And I
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Jerry Wolper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Los Angeles Times will be publishing an article on our tomato growing. It's scheduled to be printed [today]. Hope you enjoy it! I did; I especially liked the Risk reference coming out of nowhere. I suppose I officially have to ask: A spreadsheet instead of a database? It could have been done with a database, yes, but I used Open Office Calc and just had a tab for each month, with a couple of tabs at the end for aggregations. Worked fine. I imported the spreadsheet into Google Docs and shared it with the reporter and others. Again, worked just fine. Bill --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Sarah Pailn
Kevin, you old horn dog, you! You're right, she is a babe! JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin S. Goff Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:41 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Sarah Pailn She's been called a bad mother, an idiot, an animal shooter, incompetent, and a pig with lipstick. Maybe she is, maybe she isn't - but she's hot [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:06 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, you old horn dog, you! You're right, she is a babe! Easily pleased you are A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Jean, It's all so stupid i find it amusing..as i said in an earlier post one needs a degree in quantum mechanics to understand their thought processes s I agree. My own theory about racist commentary is that a person might have racist crap in their brain but if it doesn't come out of their mouth it won't breed in society. I don't care what is in someone's mind. I do care if they stick their crap in front of my face. Crap stinks, after all. At this point in my life I wish I didn't have to keep hearing and seeing the commentary anymore. Some days I do feel worn down by it, and then I have difficulty ignoring it. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My own theory about racist commentary is that a person might have racist crap in their brain but if it doesn't come out of their mouth it won't breed in society. I don't care what is in someone's mind. I do care if they stick their crap in front of my face. Crap stinks, after all. At this point in my life I wish I didn't have to keep hearing and seeing the commentary anymore. Some days I do feel worn down by it, and then I have difficulty ignoring it. If i have it right you're a little older than me ..so you should know by now stupidity is a fact of life ..so just 'let it be' A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Jean, If i have it right you're a little older than me ..so you should know by now stupidity is a fact of life ..so just 'let it be' I'm 51 so I'm probably older than a lot of ProFoxers. You are right and I am doing my best to let it be. My husband thanks you. :-) Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean, If i have it right you're a little older than me ..so you should know by now stupidity is a fact of life ..so just 'let it be' I'm 51 so I'm probably older than a lot of ProFoxers. You are right and I am doing my best to let it be. My husband thanks you. :-) ohoh foot in mouth and all that i'm older than you are, just serves me right...but the original standpoint still stands. A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Jean, I do agree Kristyne but i do suppose your keyboard has a delete button or simply twit him. Nothing to get upset about . I just found myself getting quite upset over the barrage that was posted since yesterday. Sorry for the venting. I reached the end of my rope this morning after all the crap about how Obama would be assassinated by racists if he won and now all the new crap Pete has been posting over and over and over... My husband wasn't too happy with me either. It has been quite some time since something on ProFox riled me so much. Hi Kristyne! Oh, well, sorry things have been bad for you. If the racists were to hit O-man they would get Biden, so I think O-man is safe, should he be elected. Not to worry. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn
Jean Laeremans wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:06 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, you old horn dog, you! You're right, she is a babe! Easily pleased you are Hi Jean! Post a link to any political figure you think is prettier. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] UK?s first official sharia courts
Adam Buckland wrote: Proof? I'm sooo glad you don't travel abroad as a representative for the US... LOL He does man. He does. He's just done it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 15 September 2008 19:30 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] UK?s first official sharia courts Make no mistake, Barack Hussein Obama IS A MUSLIM! Of course he wants Sharia law. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts
Bob Calco wrote: Problem is, Bob, that just by hearing your POV's I can tell you would applaud my murdering if I were in any way in the path you think your country should take. Problem is you don't really hear my POV. You hear some caricature of my POV that I barely recognize. The idea that I'd be OK with your murder is simply ridiculous. I would like you to elaborate on what you think my POV is, though. Perhaps I can clarify. Are you ok with the invasion to Irak? Do you stand for 'our poor boys abroad'? Those same boys who choose to be trained to kill and choose to go to other countries and kill, torture and rape? Are those boys under US law or under Sharia? We have a saying Cuando las barbas del vecino veas cortar, pon las tuyas a remojar (when you see they are shaving your neighbour's beard start wetting yours), so I don't think I should wait till you turn against me, it might be too late. BTW, you are so loving that I think I bear the duty of explaining with endurance and love that war is murder and hate and rape and terrible things. There is no love in war, just FYI. Will you take a step back and tell me when the subject of this thread became war? The minute you took the flag for hatred of everything muslim (jew/chinese/japanese/etc..). Do you take me for a fool? All this rant stems from your country's state of undeclared war to muslims. Twenty years ago you wouldn't even know what Sharia is and you would give a damn about Brit law allowing civil cases to be judged under it. We are talking about the introduction of one framework of law (Sharia), into another framework of law (British common law and constitutional law generally) None of which you know at all. , based on entirely different (not to mention inimical) principles (not to mention assumption about human rights). I note that they are incompatible So it is your humble opinion that Brit lawyers, judges, and parliament know nothing about their own laws, that they didn't give the matter a moment's thought, and that it is your mission to enlighten them. ; Helio observes that the adherents of Sharia will not think of it the way the high-minded Brits, by allowing it, intend it--a point with which I concur, albeit Helio and I arrive at this conclusion by different paths of reason. Funny that you two can only coincide in the common hate towards a third party. Wonder what this reveals about you two. At no point in this thread did I (or Helio) proclaim war was love and peace and happiness and everything sweet, nor do I promote hate. I don't profess to have the most tightly reasoned set of convictions ever put forth by a mortal, but I do make an effort to be honest and sincere about my evolving views, even where they conflict internally or with some party line. We are all learning as we go. And I make an effort to highlight the contradictions, hatreds, and prejudices in your set of convictions. It's just that my loving nature sees you in the path to hell and wants to save you from satan's claws, it's for your own good. My opposition to Sharia is in part based on a conviction--yes based on study--that it is hate-filled and indeed evil. Again! So you are telling us Brit parliament and their lawyers and judges are stupid people that have not studied the Sharia as profoundly as you have. Go figure! These uncivilized Europeans! So your lecture is addressing a point that I did not make--you seem to insist that I'm the hater. You sound like you enjoy giving such lectures, but I'm not clear at all where you get off assuming you know me well enough to jump to any conclusions about the motivations of my heart. How did it go? You shall be known by your acts? or something like that. This wouldn't matter if you didn't go beyond mere banter or all-in-good-fun poking to descend to personal analysis. You should read The Godfather. It is ALWAYS personal. That said, I do enjoy your rants. Thanks, so do I. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean Laeremans wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:06 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, you old horn dog, you! You're right, she is a babe! Easily pleased you are Hi Jean! Post a link to any political figure you think is prettier. -- http://tinyurl.com/6e45um A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Some days I do feel worn down by it, and then I have difficulty ignoring it. Kristyneyou need to discover the medicinal benefits of Guinness and Xanax...for years it helped me cope with some of the Foxknobs on the UT ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] financial crisis - was Sarah Pailn
It has nothing to do with politics. Money was loaned to people without any consideration of whether they could pay it back. What do you think will happen? We need some kind of regulation that prevents a loan from being resold unless the borrower has at least 20% down payment invested. That would limit the failure to the specific financial institution that loaned the money. Sure, there are some people who will default after putting down 20% or more, but they are probably limited to people who lose their job or some kind of event like that. Those 'loans' were packaged up into some kind of 'bond' and sold as 'gold'. Then many of those 'bonds' were packaged into larger 'bonds' and sold to other financial institutions, this went on over and over so that there was something like $1 actual value for every $40 'bond'. There is no telling how deep this goes. The only good thing that anyone can say is that some of those loans are good and will be repaid. The problem is that no one knows what is good and what is bad. - Original Message - From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:19 PM, John wrote: Worry not, God is always in control So *that's* who is responsible for the current financial mess. And here I thought it was the idiots extending credit to the credit- unworthy! -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn
Jean Laeremans wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean Laeremans wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:06 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, you old horn dog, you! You're right, she is a babe! Easily pleased you are Hi Jean! Post a link to any political figure you think is prettier. -- http://tinyurl.com/6e45um Hi Jean! Niet gevonden. Not found. So there are no prettier political figures than Sarah Palin! Thank you. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Jean, It's all so stupid i find it amusing..as i said in an earlier post one needs a degree in quantum mechanics to understand their thought processes s I agree. My own theory about racist commentary is that a person might have racist crap in their brain but if it doesn't come out of their mouth it won't breed in society. I don't care what is in someone's mind. I do care if they stick their crap in front of my face. Crap stinks, after all. At this point in my life I wish I didn't have to keep hearing and seeing the commentary anymore. Some days I do feel worn down by it, and then I have difficulty ignoring it. If you use ThunderBird you go to Tools/Message Filters and there you send his mails directly to the trash bin. It will be good for you and it will also be good for me. You see, I've filtered him and Madagain but whenever you answer them quoting their posts or flame them like in this message you remind me they exist. There is no possible dialog with the likes of them, if you fight with pigs you may win or you may loose but you will certainly get dirty. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Palin is the candidate, Fiorina is an advisor
Hi Everybody! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26743182/ C'mon Carley, it was a joke already. Sarah thought it was funny, for heaven's sake. Don't act like a D, it isn't becoming. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] financial crisis - was Sarah Pailn
KAM.covad wrote: It has nothing to do with politics. Money was loaned to people without any consideration of whether they could pay it back. What do you think will happen? We need some kind of regulation that prevents a loan from being resold unless the borrower has at least 20% down payment invested. That would limit the failure to the specific financial institution that loaned the money. Sure, there are some people who will default after putting down 20% or more, but they are probably limited to people who lose their job or some kind of event like that. Those 'loans' were packaged up into some kind of 'bond' and sold as 'gold'. Then many of those 'bonds' were packaged into larger 'bonds' and sold to other financial institutions, this went on over and over so that there was something like $1 actual value for every $40 'bond'. There is no telling how deep this goes. The only good thing that anyone can say is that some of those loans are good and will be repaid. The problem is that no one knows what is good and what is bad. Mmmm... this reminds me of an exchange of posts about economy we had here in OT. I maintained things would fall apart, can't remember who (he knew a lot of economics) was refuting me. But to whoever it was TOLD YA! ;c) Read Roubini's blog, he's being predicting exactly what is happening for a long time now. He was mocked by the likes of Lehman's people, he is being paid attention now. - Original Message - From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Sarah Pailn On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:19 PM, John wrote: Worry not, God is always in control So *that's* who is responsible for the current financial mess. And here I thought it was the idiots extending credit to the credit- unworthy! -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] And now, the REAL truth.
Hi Everybody! http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,423443,00.html “... the media is on very dangerous ground. I think that when you see them going through every single expense report that Governor Palin ever filed, if they don't do that for all four of the candidates, they're on very dangerous ground. I think the media so far has been the biggest loser in this race. And they continue to have growing credibility problems I think that the media is doing the kinds of stories on Palin that they're not doing on the other candidates.” http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/11/politics/politicalplayers/main4442492.shtml -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts
Ricardo: I am traveling tomorrow Orlando to DC for my step-daughter's wedding this weekend, so you won't hear much from me till next week. I would like you to elaborate on what you think my POV is, though. Perhaps I can clarify. Are you ok with the invasion to Irak? Do you stand for 'our poor boys abroad'? Those same boys who choose to be trained to kill and choose to go to other countries and kill, torture and rape? Are those boys under US law or under Sharia? My views on war generally and the Iraq war specifically are not easy to express in one email post. I shall take some time soon to elaborate, but suffice to say: 1. In hind sight I think the Iraq war was not in the strategic interest of the US, though it seemed so at that time, and it had nothing whatever to do with oil or WMDs, then or now. 2. Having said that, it has achieved good things as well as bad, and in the big scheme of things over the long-term, it may have proven necessary and even beneficial, whether it ever benefits the US directly or not. The categorization of our reasons for war and the conduct of the war has been myopic, lopsided, and wrong in many respects. 3. All war is bad, and most wars have their roots in fallen human nature. There is a time for war, and a time for peace. When it's time for war, everyone wants their guys to win it, and the other guys to lose it. Partisan politics skews this a bit, but only when things are going too well--and not when the chips are really down. Will you take a step back and tell me when the subject of this thread became war? The minute you took the flag for hatred of everything muslim (jew/chinese/japanese/etc..). Do you take me for a fool? All this rant stems from your country's state of undeclared war to muslims. Twenty years ago you wouldn't even know what Sharia is and you would give a damn about Brit law allowing civil cases to be judged under it. I would say you are clairvoyant, except for the fact that you are dead wrong. I find it amusing that you are so confident you know what I knew (or didn't know) at some time in the past. I don't take you for a fool but you do seem to present yourself when you attempt to expound reverse prophecy like this. We are talking about the introduction of one framework of law (Sharia), into another framework of law (British common law and constitutional law generally) None of which you know at all. So, as you are apparently far more highly qualified than I to render an opinion on these weighty matters, am I incorrect in pointing out that they (Sharia and Brittish common law) are based on entirely different precepts of law, justice and human rights? If so please elaborate, Dr. Araoz. , based on entirely different (not to mention inimical) principles (not to mention assumption about human rights). I note that they are incompatible So it is your humble opinion that Brit lawyers, judges, and parliament know nothing about their own laws, that they didn't give the matter a moment's thought, and that it is your mission to enlighten them. I know actual British folks who are very much into the debate. Some are for it, many against it. It was not a universally acclaimed decision; many people in England have deep reservations about it. Others take a poo-poo attitude, like our very own Adam Buckland (I'll be having a fine single malt scotch, straight up, this weekend, and shall surely think of him then). I'm not on any mission to enlighten you. This does not even appear possible. ; Helio observes that the adherents of Sharia will not think of it the way the high-minded Brits, by allowing it, intend it--a point with which I concur, albeit Helio and I arrive at this conclusion by different paths of reason. Funny that you two can only coincide in the common hate towards a third party. Wonder what this reveals about you two. We agree mixing Sharia law with any form of Western constitutional law as inherently contradictory, and detrimental to the latter. As far as I know, this is all Helio agrees with me about. It has zip, nada, zilch to do with hate--I think your obsession on this topic says more about you and your hyper-judgmental-ism than it does about either of us. To be distressed about the logical consequence of something to the point that you speak out against it (yea, even with humor and hyperbole) is by no means the same thing as hating somebody. I wish you'd stop reducing the conversation to our personal motives, which you ignorantly claim to understand. For example, I'm quite sure you don't hate me, just because you misrepresent my opinions. But I wonder sometimes... And I make an effort to highlight the contradictions, hatreds, and prejudices in your set of convictions. Luke 6:42. It's just that my loving nature sees you in the path to hell and wants to save you from satan's claws, it's for your own good. Now this is an interesting statement. Pray tell, what can I do to
[OT] Brit kid tries to eat cheap for a week.
Hi Everybody! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/cheap-thrills-can-you-live-on-a-pound-a-day-931859.html or http://tinyurl.com/693zcy -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
I have not read all of Pete's links, but a sampling of the first ten I found indicated that he was ridiculing behavior and attitude, not race. Best to all, Ross Kristyne McDaniel wrote: There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT] anymore because of the racist messages from Pete Theisen and the BS partisan nonsense about the election. You'd think there was nothing else going on in the U.S. besides the election and beating down African-Americans like the Democratic candidate who is a first-generation American with a Kenyan father. GIVE ME A BREAK! I hate seeing this over the top blatant racist stuff over and over again in the subject lines of these one-line messages pointing to a video clip that I'll never watch --- because of the SOURCE. Hi Kristyne! Racist? I used to be a liberal until I became a Social Worker. The endless sensitivity training, which in those days consisted of one or another street person pointing his finger in your face and saying You beeze a raysuhst, muthuhfuckuh! Then 40 years of affirmative action which meant I had to be relegated to the white promotion and seniority list or else change careers. Finally, the promotion of high-school dropouts to superior positions over me because they had been discriminated for the last 400 or their 23 years. This is to say nothing of the welfare clients urinating in the elevators where we worked. You knows hows it is, man. When yo gotta go yo gotta go. Racist, me? How could you think it? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts
Ricardo, Have you been using your jump to conclusions mat recently? HW On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ; Helio observes that the adherents of Sharia will not think of it the way the high-minded Brits, by allowing it, intend it--a point with which I concur, albeit Helio and I arrive at this conclusion by different paths of reason. Funny that you two can only coincide in the common hate towards a third party. Wonder what this reveals about you two. -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not read all of Pete's links, but a sampling of the first ten I found indicated that he was ridiculing behavior and attitude, not race. Kristyne McDaniel wrote: There's barely anything interesting in ProFox [OT] anymore because of the racist messages from Pete Theisen Racist? I used to be a liberal Hi Ross! Very perceptive! Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas and Condoleezza Rice are people of color I could vote for, but they aren't running. Barrack Hussein Obama is far too liberal for me, and to the extent that he has violated the campaign finance laws he is of a league with the boys on the wanted posters. If that makes him an n-word it makes him an n-word. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts
Not only that. I despise the idea of using any kind of religious based law, even if it were to regulate how people use their latrine. HW On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We agree mixing Sharia law with any form of Western constitutional law as inherently contradictory, and detrimental to the latter. As far as I know, this is all Helio agrees with me about. It has zip, nada, zilch to do with hate--I think your obsession on this topic says more about you and your hyper-judgmental-ism than it does about either of us. -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Green Card holders for (candidate)
Hi Everybody! If you have a Green Card you can contribute. And Illegals can volunteer if they are not paid staffers! http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/foreign.shtml Doesn't mention 527 contributions. I bet there are a ton of these! Do American Citizens attempt to influence foreign elections? I mean, outside of formal regime change a la Saddam. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Ricardo, I've filtered him and Madagain but whenever you answer them quoting their posts or flame them like in this message you remind me they exist. In my own feeble defense, I did not respond to Pete. I started a new thread. There is no possible dialog with the likes of them, if you fight with pigs you may win or you may loose but you will certainly get dirty. I don't like the idea that anyone is unworthy of conversation. I do, however, delete nearly all of Pete's messages unread. The few I look at get deleted quickly too. I hope to never again respond to a Pete Theisen message. I'm exhausted with trying to teach the proverbial pig to sing. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts
Ricardo, Have you been using your jump to conclusions mat recently? I think he's been using his jump to conclusions *trampoline*, with Twister overlaid on it. - Bob HW On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny that you two can only coincide in the common hate towards a third party. Wonder what this reveals about you two. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts
Helio Wakasugui wrote: Not only that. I despise the idea of using any kind of religious based law, even if it were to regulate how people use their latrine. Hi Helio! For shame that you should say that! 12 Thou shalt have a place also without the camp, whither thou shalt go forth abroad: 13 And thou shalt have a paddle upon thy weapon; and it shall be, when thou wilt ease thyself abroad, thou shalt dig therewith, and shalt turn back and cover that which cometh from thee: Deuteronomy 23: 12, 13 -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] UK's first official sharia courts
Not only that. I despise the idea of using any kind of religious based law, even if it were to regulate how people use their latrine. All law is morality based. The distinction between religious and secular is something of a canard. Even secular law has some basis in religious beliefs. Endowed by our creator ... one nation under God ... God save the queen...and all that. And most overtly religious laws, like Sharia and the theocracy of the Old Testament, end up having to deal with mundane things, like who will collect the garbage or clean the latrine, at some point. I object to mixing incompatible systems knowingly. It's more important that a people live peaceably with their traditions and beliefs than that everybody believe and do the same thing. I object to certain systems on the basis of their metaphysical grounding (some religious, some secular), but don't care if someone else wants to live in such a system (somewhere else) as long as they don't want to slit my throat because I disagree. I do want to agree with the essence of your statement, Helio, but it's just not practical, precisely because law is basically state-enforced morality. Somebody's morality will win on election day. I think the bigger problem is making the law more about the mundane stuff and less about the moral stuff if at all possible. But when a judge plucks a new constitutional right out of his arse, imposing it on the legislators of all fifty states, contrary to the mores of the times, then there will be a reaction. It's sad but the reality of human affairs is that people don't agree on most things, and will find a way to disagree about the rest, when you're forced to debate stuff. Just look at OT as a microcosm of this problem. ;-) I was happily drifting into a more or less apolitical state until the election rolled around. I look forward to returning to it after November 4 ...ah, who am I kidding! ;) - Bob HW On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We agree mixing Sharia law with any form of Western constitutional law as inherently contradictory, and detrimental to the latter. As far as I know, this is all Helio agrees with me about. It has zip, nada, zilch to do with hate--I think your obsession on this topic says more about you and your hyper-judgmental-ism than it does about either of us. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] It's not really big brother
http://tinyurl.com/5b2wfg John Harvey ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] And now, the REAL truth.
... the media is on very dangerous ground. I think that when you see them going through every single expense report that Governor Palin ever filed, if they don't do that for all four of the candidates, they're on very dangerous ground. I think the media so far has been the biggest loser in this race. And they continue to have growing credibility problems I think that the media is doing the kinds of stories on Palin that they're not doing on the other candidates. and now, if things go well, not only will their misplaced vitriol backfire on their precious obamessiah, the most gracious, but will help us finally drive a stake through the heart of the mainstream media's aire of objectivity, and through the heart of their influence in this country... like Dan Rather a hundred times over! -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] And now, the REAL truth.
The Electoral College map is rapidly turning red. Florida and Ohio are now firmly in the McCain camp. Michigan and Pennsylvania are tied. New Jersey and New York are now only leaning towards obama. This may be a landslide like Clinton/Dole Reagan/Carter or Bush/Dukakis. He's done. Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] And now, the REAL truth. To: profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 11:55 PM “... the media is on very dangerous ground. I think that when you see them going through every single expense report that Governor Palin ever filed, if they don't do that for all four of the candidates, they're on very dangerous ground. I think the media so far has been the biggest loser in this race. And they continue to have growing credibility problems I think that the media is doing the kinds of stories on Palin that they're not doing on the other candidates.” and now, if things go well, not only will their misplaced vitriol backfire on their precious obamessiah, the most gracious, but will help us finally drive a stake through the heart of the mainstream media's aire of objectivity, and through the heart of their influence in this country... like Dan Rather a hundred times over! -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait
Since you won't be reading this Ricardo, I've think you're a swell fellow. LMAO Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Democrats. - Sarah Palin, Sept 4, 2008 Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] I'm sick of Pete Theisen's Racist Flame Bait To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 8:02 PM Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Jean, It's all so stupid i find it amusing..as i said in an earlier post one needs a degree in quantum mechanics to understand their thought processes s I agree. My own theory about racist commentary is that a person might have racist crap in their brain but if it doesn't come out of their mouth it won't breed in society. I don't care what is in someone's mind. I do care if they stick their crap in front of my face. Crap stinks, after all. At this point in my life I wish I didn't have to keep hearing and seeing the commentary anymore. Some days I do feel worn down by it, and then I have difficulty ignoring it. If you use ThunderBird you go to Tools/Message Filters and there you send his mails directly to the trash bin. It will be good for you and it will also be good for me. You see, I've filtered him and Madagain but whenever you answer them quoting their posts or flame them like in this message you remind me they exist. There is no possible dialog with the likes of them, if you fight with pigs you may win or you may loose but you will certainly get dirty. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.