Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
Oh yeah iCloud, sounds like the same functionality that Ubuntu One on Ubuntu and OneDrive/SkyDrive on Windows has had since 2007 or so ;) There hasn't been anything mentioned in the Apple sphere that you can't achieve with the two operating systems above. What you are getting with Apple is of course the outstanding build quality, the name, the design and the whole ethos. But not much in terms of functionality that can't be got elsewhere. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1432022184.624627.272425817.20f34...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
> > There hasn't been anything mentioned in the Apple sphere that you can't > achieve with the two operating systems above. > You don't say... ;) A+ jml --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAPqLOByULkw+Ou3zWk2P+jakHSVt9+3i=a_fw9az1b3w30e...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > TL;DR: What are your criteria and recommendations for a development laptop? Thanks all for your participation! OK, to summarize, we have: - a thumbs down for System76 components, especially keyboard, - thumbs-up for Dell Precision Workstations (btw, about $1200-$1500 for a refurb comparable to those previously posted) - recommendation for a Chromebook - recommendation for an MacBookPro - the usual dozen asides about backups, Apple bashing, giant USB tabs, etc. Before we exclaim "Sheep!" anyone else have a recommendation or insight into what they value in their development workstation? -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacw6n4tthy8op0plxho-e0r3jucb2osp22drtkeck3xq-j1...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
On 18/05/2015 12:32, Ted Roche wrote: HDD: not all that important, as nearly everything we run is mirrored on the LAN and backed-up to the internet. If I was buying one now I wouldn't consider anything less than an SSD drive, just for the general performance increase especially booting. Even if you have a small boot drive and a larger main drive. Peter This communication is intended for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. The contents are confidential and may be protected in law. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or email. www.whisperingsmith.com Whispering Smith Ltd Head Office:61 Great Ducie Street, Manchester M3 1RR. Tel:0161 831 3700 Fax:0161 831 3715 London Office:17-19 Foley Street, London W1W 6DW Tel:0207 299 7960 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/555b1ac1.5040...@whisperingsmith.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
Lots of USB ports. -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:13 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop On 18/05/2015 12:32, Ted Roche wrote: > HDD: not all that important, as nearly everything we run is mirrored > on the LAN and backed-up to the internet. > If I was buying one now I wouldn't consider anything less than an SSD drive, just for the general performance increase especially booting. Even if you have a small boot drive and a larger main drive. Peter ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/blupr10mb04517015b154573031b4b556d2...@blupr10mb0451.namprd10.prod.outlook.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
+1 for the USB ports, one thing that the Macbook doesn't supply in great quantity i.e. only two! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kaye Sent: 19 May 2015 12:32 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop Lots of USB ports. -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:13 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop On 18/05/2015 12:32, Ted Roche wrote: > HDD: not all that important, as nearly everything we run is mirrored > on the LAN and backed-up to the internet. > If I was buying one now I wouldn't consider anything less than an SSD drive, just for the general performance increase especially booting. Even if you have a small boot drive and a larger main drive. Peter [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/18725b8cd2d5d247873a2baf401d4ab259716...@ex2010-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
And also being aware of the external video ports/options. Few things are more frustrating than going to hook up your external devices and realizing the video output uses some magic adapter that you didn't buy. -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:34 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop +1 for the USB ports, one thing that the Macbook doesn't supply in great quantity i.e. only two! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kaye Sent: 19 May 2015 12:32 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop Lots of USB ports. -- rk ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/blupr10mb0451f0f61ebccf1ef9c4f071d2...@blupr10mb0451.namprd10.prod.outlook.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
1. Lots of memory, or the ability to add more at a reasonable price. 2. Backlit keyboard - most useful for those dark winter nights coding! 3. Bright screen - lots of laptops lack in the brightness department. 4. Ability to add an SSD in place of the existing CD (if possible) - Most of the Dell laptops (Inspiron & XPS) have available space and SSD carriers 5. Decent trackpad - if not then invest in a Logitech T650 Wireless Rechargeable Touchpad... all but damnit as good as the Apple trackpad. 6. Ability to upgrade the Hard Disk capacity at some stage in the future. 7. Decent keyboard - purely personal choice. 8. Cheaply available power supplies - You know that at some stage the original fitment one will go wrong or be damaged. 9. USB 3 - Many laptops still only have USB 2 as standard. 10. Built in HDMI output Best of luck! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: 19 May 2015 11:58 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > TL;DR: What are your criteria and recommendations for a development laptop? Thanks all for your participation! OK, to summarize, we have: - a thumbs down for System76 components, especially keyboard, - thumbs-up for Dell Precision Workstations (btw, about $1200-$1500 for a refurb comparable to those previously posted) - recommendation for a Chromebook - recommendation for an MacBookPro - the usual dozen asides about backups, Apple bashing, giant USB tabs, etc. Before we exclaim "Sheep!" anyone else have a recommendation or insight into what they value in their development workstation? -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/18725b8cd2d5d247873a2baf401d4ab259716...@ex2010-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
Although the Macbook Pro only has two usb 3.0 ports, it also supplies thunderbolt ports, (eg https://www.apple.com/thunderbolt/). Apple, as a company, owns both the hardware, (eg macbook pro, iphone, ipad, etc), and operating system/apps, (eg OS X Yosemite) sides of its business. This allows Apple to closely integrate it products, so they work very well together, as well as with its hardware. Although Apple products integrate best with other Apple products, its products are still very competitive when working in combination with hardware and OS(s) outside its product line. Also, apple's hardware is usually top notch; because, Apple uses top of the line component in assembling their products, and quality counts. Regards, LelandJ On 5/19/15 6:34 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: +1 for the USB ports, one thing that the Macbook doesn't supply in great quantity i.e. only two! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kaye Sent: 19 May 2015 12:32 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop Lots of USB ports. -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:13 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop On 18/05/2015 12:32, Ted Roche wrote: HDD: not all that important, as nearly everything we run is mirrored on the LAN and backed-up to the internet. If I was buying one now I wouldn't consider anything less than an SSD drive, just for the general performance increase especially booting. Even if you have a small boot drive and a larger main drive. Peter [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/555b2bb2.2080...@icloud.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
I don't get this, my Dell will boot Ubuntu in 60-70 seconds. Then my laptop will be on all day, unless suspended, coming up from suspension takes about 3 seconds. Why would I spend hard earned extra money to save 60 seconds on a 10 to 16 hour day? Doesn't make sense to me. As for general performance, an i5 with my 1Tb HD are more than what I need for everyday work. I don't edit video, and unless you are recommending a SSD drive for playing I don't think it's money well spent. On 19/05/15 08:13, Peter Cushing wrote: On 18/05/2015 12:32, Ted Roche wrote: HDD: not all that important, as nearly everything we run is mirrored on the LAN and backed-up to the internet. If I was buying one now I wouldn't consider anything less than an SSD drive, just for the general performance increase especially booting. Even if you have a small boot drive and a larger main drive. Peter This communication is intended for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. The contents are confidential and may be protected in law. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or email. www.whisperingsmith.com Whispering Smith Ltd Head Office:61 Great Ducie Street, Manchester M3 1RR. Tel:0161 831 3700 Fax:0161 831 3715 London Office:17-19 Foley Street, London W1W 6DW Tel:0207 299 7960 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/555b2f13.1060...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
If it were only about those 60 seconds then I think you would have universal agreement. -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2015 10:40 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop I don't get this, my Dell will boot Ubuntu in 60-70 seconds. Then my laptop will be on all day, unless suspended, coming up from suspension takes about 3 seconds. Why would I spend hard earned extra money to save 60 seconds on a 10 to 16 hour day? Doesn't make sense to me. As for general performance, an i5 with my 1Tb HD are more than what I need for everyday work. I don't edit video, and unless you are recommending a SSD drive for playing I don't think it's money well spent. On 19/05/15 08:13, Peter Cushing wrote: > On 18/05/2015 12:32, Ted Roche wrote: >> HDD: not all that important, as nearly everything we run is mirrored >> on the LAN and backed-up to the internet. >> > If I was buying one now I wouldn't consider anything less than an SSD > drive, just for the general performance increase especially booting. > Even if you have a small boot drive and a larger main drive. > > Peter > > > > > > > This communication is intended for the person or organisation to whom > it is addressed. The contents are confidential and may be protected in > law. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be > unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us > immediately by telephone or email. > www.whisperingsmith.com > > Whispering Smith Ltd Head Office:61 Great Ducie Street, Manchester M3 > 1RR. Tel:0161 831 3700 Fax:0161 831 3715 London Office:17-19 Foley > Street, London W1W 6DW Tel:0207 299 7960 > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/002f01d09231$b973a100$2c5ae300$@ozemail.com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
Just yesterday we reformatted a Sony Vaio laptop that was taking an age to reboot. Using Autopatcher it took about 40 minutes to reformat and get up to speed with all updates from SP1 (Windows 7 64 Bit). The boot speed is now excellent and it has become a useable working machine once more. My own Laptop - Dell i7 with 16Gb Windows 7 64 Bit is in dire need of updating and will be done over this weekend. Currently a reboot can take up to 12 minutes before the laptop is useable, so it isn't just 60 seconds we are talking about here. +1 to Darren here! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Darren Sent: 19 May 2015 13:46 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop If it were only about those 60 seconds then I think you would have universal agreement. -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2015 10:40 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop I don't get this, my Dell will boot Ubuntu in 60-70 seconds. Then my laptop will be on all day, unless suspended, coming up from suspension takes about 3 seconds. Why would I spend hard earned extra money to save 60 seconds on a 10 to 16 hour day? Doesn't make sense to me. As for general performance, an i5 with my 1Tb HD are more than what I need for everyday work. I don't edit video, and unless you are recommending a SSD drive for playing I don't think it's money well spent. On 19/05/15 08:13, Peter Cushing wrote: > On 18/05/2015 12:32, Ted Roche wrote: >> HDD: not all that important, as nearly everything we run is mirrored >> on the LAN and backed-up to the internet. >> > If I was buying one now I wouldn't consider anything less than an SSD > drive, just for the general performance increase especially booting. > Even if you have a small boot drive and a larger main drive. > > Peter > > > > > > > This communication is intended for the person or organisation to whom > it is addressed. The contents are confidential and may be protected in > law. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be > unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us > immediately by telephone or email. > www.whisperingsmith.com > > Whispering Smith Ltd Head Office:61 Great Ducie Street, Manchester M3 > 1RR. Tel:0161 831 3700 Fax:0161 831 3715 London Office:17-19 Foley > Street, London W1W 6DW Tel:0207 299 7960 > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/18725b8cd2d5d247873a2baf401d4ab259716...@ex2010-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
> > As for general performance, an i5 with my 1Tb HD are more than what I need > for everyday work. I don't edit video, and unless you are recommending a > SSD drive for playing I don't think it's money well spent. If you carry your laptop around an SSD is a more reliable data storage than an old-fashioned HDD. If you don't carry around the laptop, your money would be better spent on a desktop computer. I switched to SSDs six years ago when my HDD broke right after security at the airport on the beginning of a 24 hour trip home. Never had a laptop with a spinning disk ever since (and my six year old SSD is still working just fine, in case you wonder about durability). -- Christof --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cal4qjhgz8shmxr2cnlmzsszpe_snbha5mv0sayet_tx49us...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
Been there - done that! I got my new Alienware a number of years ago. I prepped a presentation for our local 3D SW user group. I show up that night to give the presentation - and I looked for the VGA port - and, of course - it doesn't Exist! WTF! Back then (that laptop is now about 6.5 years old) I figured a VGA port was still standard. My Bad. Instead - all I had was an HDMI port... :-( -K- -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kaye Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:38 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop And also being aware of the external video ports/options. Few things are more frustrating than going to hook up your external devices and realizing the video output uses some magic adapter that you didn't buy. -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:34 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop +1 for the USB ports, one thing that the Macbook doesn't supply in great quantity i.e. only two! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kaye Sent: 19 May 2015 12:32 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop Lots of USB ports. -- rk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/80838f1ca795b14ea1af48659f35166f1b8...@drexch02.corp.globetax.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I hardly think pointing out that apple, despite its claims, is not first with everything makes it apple bashing. If apple made a decent 17" or 19" convertible and depending on the price I might think about it. Al -Original Message- - recommendation for a Chromebook - recommendation for an MacBookPro - the usual dozen asides about backups, Apple bashing, giant USB tabs, etc. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/002401d09241$46118ff0$d234afd0$@com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
The MAC would be okay if it had a decent VM. Parallels had terrible performance. Someone on this thread mentioned that Windows 10 worked better. Is there an alternative to Parallels? - Besides a dual boot. On 5/19/2015 7:37 AM, Allen wrote: I hardly think pointing out that apple, despite its claims, is not first with everything makes it apple bashing. If apple made a decent 17" or 19" convertible and depending on the price I might think about it. Al -Original Message- - recommendation for a Chromebook - recommendation for an MacBookPro - the usual dozen asides about backups, Apple bashing, giant USB tabs, etc. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/555b4b48.9080...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
Jeff, VMWare FusionFX is the Parallels equivalent but in my experience more stable and with better performance. We are on Version 10 (Soon to be 11) now and I have used it since Version 6. With the exception of Version 9 it has always been better than Parallels... and cheaper! My Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 VM's on Fusion run faster than my native Dell i7 laptop and only graphics performance seems to be degraded but that is going to improve in V11 (so they say!) Dave Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Johnson Sent: 19 May 2015 15:40 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop The MAC would be okay if it had a decent VM. Parallels had terrible performance. Someone on this thread mentioned that Windows 10 worked better. Is there an alternative to Parallels? - Besides a dual boot. On 5/19/2015 7:37 AM, Allen wrote: > I hardly think pointing out that apple, despite its claims, is not > first with everything makes it apple bashing. If apple made a decent 17" or > 19" > convertible and depending on the price I might think about it. > Al > > -Original Message- > > - recommendation for a Chromebook > - recommendation for an MacBookPro > - the usual dozen asides about backups, Apple bashing, giant USB tabs, etc. > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/18725b8cd2d5d247873a2baf401d4ab259716...@ex2010-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
Ah, so that's why iphone 6 bend Al -Original Message- Also, apple's hardware is usually top notch; because, Apple uses top of the line component in assembling their products, and quality counts. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/002601d09243$0dd632b0$29829810$@com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
> > Is there an alternative to Parallels? - Besides a dual boot. VMWare Fusion 7 (http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/features.html) -- Christof --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAL4QJhhuoCcfp1BNQ_mZ7ajPhSEWe4sfVibvppfpRxZX=6f...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
Leland - I gotta say - that's a funny reply. And, yes - I sure do remember that scene from the Movie with the item that was on the Dog's collar! Good stuff indeed. -K- -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Leland Jackson Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 3:14 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop Notable Quote: #--- Agent K: What do you mean "here"? Agent J: The galaxy's hundreds and millions of stars and planets. How's it here? Frank: You humans. When're you gonna learn that size doesn't matter? Just 'cause something's important, doesn't mean it's not very, very small. Agent K: How small?! Frank: Tiny. Like the size of a marble or a jewel. Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta be walked before my flight. -- Men in Black #--- Regards, LelandJ On 5/18/15 1:45 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > Holy Crap - now THAT is surely Expensive for a Thumb drive! Not sure if it > makes sense - since the items are so small - its easy to lose. And, at that > price - I would be Mighty PO'd if I lost it! > > -K- > > -Original Message- > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of > Leland Jackson > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 1:31 PM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop > > I guess I need something like this: > http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Flash-Voyager-512GB-CMFVYGS3B-512GB/dp/B > 00S89FF78/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1431970081&sr=8-2&keywords=512gb+usb+ > 3.0+flash+drive > > 512 gb flash drives are still pretty expensive, at least for someone > like me. LOL > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > On 5/18/15 12:20 PM, Leland Jackson wrote: >> Yes. There are lots of options when it come to backups. All my Linux >> computers have two identical drives. Periodically I make a mirror >> image backup to the backup drive. After the backup, I disconnect the >> backup drive form the computer's motherboard, and it reside safely >> stored in a tray with the computer's inclosure on the ready. >> >> My Macbook pro has a 512 gb ssd drive, and right now I haven't worked >> out a mirror image backup for it. Hopefully I'll get around to that. >> LOL Anyway, most of my critical work and configurations reside on >> the Linux boxes which have mirror image backups. >> >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> On 5/18/15 12:03 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: >>> I personally FTP all that stuff to my web site. Then I download it >>> when I need it. Like installs. >>> >>> >>> On 5/18/2015 10:01 AM, Leland Jackson wrote: One other thought. You can pay extra for an apple CD/DVD player, or other usb CD/DVD, which connects to one of the 2 available USB 3.0 ports on the Macbook Pro, but I really don't find a CD/DVD device necessary. The use of CD/DVD media is rapidly declining in favor of stream over the internet or LAN. If you need portable storage today, I would go with a 128 gb or 256 gb usb 3.0 flash drive, which are becoming more affordable everyday, (eg http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=thumb+drive+128+gb&N=-1&isNodeId=1). I find the flash drive much more reliable than a CD/DVD R/W device, and much more portable. If you have old software/apps on CD/DVD media, and need to install it, Just put an image of it on the CD/DVD flash drive using one of your Linux systems. When the flash drive is inserted into a usb 2.0/3.0 port, the image then become available to the target computer/os.'' The Macbook Pro is supper slim, compact, and light; because, it doesn't include a CD/DVD device inside the case. Regards, LelandJ Regards, LelandJ that install On 5/18/15 11:23 AM, Leland Jackson wrote: > > > On 5/18/15 10:51 AM, Leland Jackson wrote: >> >> On 5/18/15 10:21 AM, Leland Jackson wrote: >>> >>> On 5/18/15 9:01 AM, Ted Roche wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: > Damnit ... I think I'm becoming a Fanboi! How sad! Yes it was > expensive, but the applecare warranty means that in 2 years it > will still be a saleable machine should I want to get rid of it. While there are some questions on their QA lately, and they do try too hard to lock you in, Apple does make a beautifully designed machine. >>> I and the wife have been running Macbook Pro for about 6 months. >>> We're running the mid 2014 models that come with the beautiful >>> retina display. See here: >>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1072689-REG/apple_mgxc2ll_ >>> a >>> _15_4_macbook_pro_notebook.html >>> >>> I've been very happy with mine. It works well with my Linux >>> media server and postgresql, Apache
RE: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop
Hey Ted, Thanks for that feedback. I will have to look at the Outlet website. And, thanks for confirming what I had kinda figured - that the i3 is essentially equivalent to the Celeron line of Chips - and I will probably just stay away from them. -K- -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 10:00 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Recomendations for a developer laptop On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > > I'm also looking for a laptop - and I am even considering a Refurb, as you > mentioned. Although - yeah - I need decent 3D - since I'm mainly doing 3D on > it - and e-mails. So, keyboard has to be decent for doing e-mails. But, even > the 3D graphics doesn't have to be Super-horse power. My 3D these days is all > for prototyping - which doesn't get as Hi-Poly as regular 3D design for > animation. > > I hadn't heard about a Dell Outlet before. Is it a physical store - or an > extension of their regular website? http://outlet.dell.com or dell.com/outlet, or search "Outlet" from the home page. Most of the manufacturers have such a site. They get back demos, scratched cases, store returns, and run them through an inspection and restore them to OEM condition, usually with a decent though reduced warranty. At 60 - 100% of the retail price. You can find bargains. You can find turkeys. Caveat Emptor, as the Romans said, Buyer Beware. > I'd also be interested in getting people's feedback on the Intel i3 > vs. i5 vs. i7 Fast cheap and slightly unfair: i3 is the underpowered Celeron, i5 is the workman dual core, i7 is the high-end 4-core, though not as high end as the Xeon, and it really shines if the software knows how to use it, otherwise, not so different from the i5 for most day-to-day use. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/80838f1ca795b14ea1af48659f35166f1b8...@drexch02.corp.globetax.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
