[OT] Executive compensation for these bailout companies

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I'm hearing about $20 billion going to Citi group (credit card) bank. 
Taxpayers may have to swallow up to $250 BILLION of their debt. 
Unbelievable.

If there's $1 dollar in bonuses paid to anyone in these failed 
companies, their management should be fired immediately with no 
compensation.



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Re: [NF] The MS Experience, was:Thunderbird woes

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Alan Bourke wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:32:57 -0500, "Ted Roche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
> 
>> Just back from a Ruby conference last week. "All the cool kids" had
>> MacBooks
> 
> I have two cousings who are hardcore Rails developers, and they both use
> Macs for all their dev work, with Windows in VMs for testing when
> needed.


How's their job prospects with Rails?



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Re: vfp and sqlserver express edition 2008 (first steps in VFP and SQLServer)

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Rafael Copquin wrote:
> Could you guys please tell me how to write the connection string?


I think you need connectionstrings.com!



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Re: [NF] Visual studio 2010

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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> A computers will always need an OS to manage it hardware and 
> applications, whether it's a Dell, a Sun SPARC, a Linux white box, a 
> microwave oven, a cell phone, a router, etc, but applications are 
> becoming independent of the OS.  Microsoft's model for growth and 
> control of the market has been to make its suite of very popular 
> applications dependent on its Windows OS.  In the sense that 
> applications are becoming more and more OS agnostic/independent, and are 
> designed to run over the internet, which includes the infrastructure 
> that ties all the computers and OS(s) into one big network, it seems to 
> me the internet can be seen as the new OS, and this is what I meant when 
> I said the internet is the new OS.


This is exactly the appeal (from my POV) of Dabo -- write it once and 
it'll run (the exact same code) on Windows, Linux, or Mac.  Paul/Ed -- 
correct me if I'm wrong, or absolutely chime in to ram this point home.



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Re: [NF] Visual studio 2010

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Alan Bourke wrote:
> You could well be right. At the minute, though, it would be an OS that
> isn't available to huge sections of the global population and is often
> slow and flaky for those to whom it is available.


That will continually get better.  The days of dial-up and crappy 
connections will soon be a distant memory to most folks (especially the 
businesses with whom you transact).



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Re: [NF] Visual studio 2010

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Allen wrote:
> I would prefer my data to remain where it is anyway not on some google
> server somewhere


I like having my MySQL databases hosted by the ISP -- they're 
responsible for the servers as well as the patches, backups, etc.  I 
just rely on a connection to the database.  Lowers my TCO, for sure!



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Re: [NF] Visual studio 2010

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MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
> This is exactly the appeal (from my POV) of Dabo -- write it once and 
> it'll run (the exact same code) on Windows, Linux, or Mac.  Paul/Ed -- 
> correct me if I'm wrong, or absolutely chime in to ram this point home.


Let's hope Dabo gets a better rep than Java, because wasn't that Java's 
claim to fame--write once (but debug everywhere).



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Re: [JOB] VFP 8 dev - New Orleans

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Ted Roche wrote:
> Ah, if I were a younger and rootless man...
> 
> 


Heck, forget age...if I were just rootless!



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Re: [NF] Visual studio 2010

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Paul McNett wrote:
> MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
>> Allen wrote:
>>> I would prefer my data to remain where it is anyway not on some google
>>> server somewhere
>>
>> I like having my MySQL databases hosted by the ISP -- they're 
>> responsible for the servers as well as the patches, backups, etc.  I 
>> just rely on a connection to the database.  Lowers my TCO, for sure!
> 
> You are still responsible for your clients' data. If it gets stolen from your 
> isp, it 
> is your fault. Given that, I'd much rather keep it on my server.


True, but in weighing the benefits, the likelihood of it getting stolen 
from their servers is far less than the benefits coming from them 
hosting it as opposed to me, imo.



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Re: [NF] Visual studio 2010

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Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 4:21 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC >
>> This is exactly the appeal (from my POV) of Dabo -- write it once and
>> it'll run (the exact same code) on Windows, Linux, or Mac.  Paul/Ed --
>> correct me if I'm wrong, or absolutely chime in to ram this point home.
> ---
> 
> They called that java a while back.  Write once run anywhere?
> 
> I still don't see it really happening when flavors of language are
> different between platforms.
> 


Right...they promised that with Java but I don't think it ever really 
worked that way.  Ed and Paul's Dabo sounds much more appealing as Dabo 
uses the native controls.



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Re: OpenTech Message Boards will be Closing

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Ted Roche wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Ed Leafe  wrote:
>>I have decided to take the OpenTech message boards offline at the end
>> of the year. There simply is not enough traffic to justify the time
>> spent maintaining them. Just thought I'd let everyone know in case you
>> were planning to suddenly start posting there anytime soon.
> 
> Sounds like a good idea. I've been registered since near the
> beginning, but have never felt engaged with the community there.
> Thanks for trying, though. You never know what might catch on. Who
> would have thought Twitter was a good idea :) ?
> 


Right.  Many thanks, Ed.  You're well deserving of a lifetime VFP award, 
imo, and I'm sure many others here share that position.  You, TR, Rick, 
and many others for sure.



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Re: OpenTech Message Boards will be Closing

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Ed Leafe wrote:
> And I learned enough PHP to learn that I  
> don't want to ever work in PHP again. ;-)


LOL!  What was it about PHP that turned you off to it?



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Re: [NF] Visual studio 2010

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Paul McNett wrote:
> Well, at least you are honest about your ability! :)
> 
> Paul


I'm no pretender!  I do software very wellnot hosting!



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Re: OpenTech Message Boards will be Closing

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Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Dec 29, 2008, at 6:19 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
> 
>> LOL!  What was it about PHP that turned you off to it?
> 
> 
>   The ugly syntax is the big thing. The fact that it is common and even  
> encouraged to embed your logic into your UI is another big turn-off.

...and Python encourages a disconnected/tiered approach?

> 
>   I think Python spoils you. You get used to concise, readable code  
> without a lot of stupid garbage characters.


I like the idea of concise, readable code!  Thanks for the comments.



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Re: OpenTech Message Boards will be Closing

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Paul McNett wrote:
> Ed Leafe wrote:
>> On Dec 29, 2008, at 6:19 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
>>
>>> LOL!  What was it about PHP that turned you off to it?
>>
>>  The ugly syntax is the big thing. The fact that it is common and even  
>> encouraged to embed your logic into your UI is another big turn-off.
>>
>>  I think Python spoils you. You get used to concise, readable code  
>> without a lot of stupid garbage characters.
> 
> The thing that drew me to PHP originally, was that it was a much cleaner 
> version of 
> perl, which I'd been using for cgi up until discovering PHP. PHP *does* make 
> simple 
> web pages that need some dynamic content very easy and reasonably clean.
> 
> But ah, then I found Python, after which everything else became ugly.


I saw Perl and thought it was so butt-ugly!  Looked like a freakin 
star-trekkie/script-kiddie/geekdom kind of thing.



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Re: OpenTech Message Boards will be Closing

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Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Dec 29, 2008, at 10:17 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
> 
>>> The ugly syntax is the big thing. The fact that it is common and  
>>> even
>>> encouraged to embed your logic into your UI is another big turn-off.
>> ...and Python encourages a disconnected/tiered approach?
> 
>   PHP is for web pages, period. Python has a much broader application.  
> PHP makes it so easy to write crappy designs; it almost seems to  
> encourage it! Sure, you can create crappy designs with Python, but the  
> web frameworks available in Python have a much better foundation, and  
> make it easy to create proper designs.


Ok...same question though--does Python encourage a disconnected/tiered 
approach or does it matter depending on the application need?



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Re: [OT] PC- vs mac video.

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Stephen Russell wrote:
> funny one.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Funny!  Notice that it was Windows Vista and then said "upgrading to 
Windows XP" and then seemed much faster/better?



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No more Colbert, Spongebob, MTV, and others perhaps

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081231/ap_on_bi_ge/viacom_time_warner_cable


Personally, I'd like to see MTV go dark.  It's absolute sh!t and feeds 
the decay of our society, imo.



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Re: No more Colbert, Spongebob, MTV, and others perhaps

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MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081231/ap_on_bi_ge/viacom_time_warner_cable
> 
> 
> Personally, I'd like to see MTV go dark.  It's absolute sh!t and feeds 
> the decay of our society, imo.


Oops...sorry, that should have been [OT].





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[OT] No more Colbert, Spongebob, MTV, and others perhaps

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MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081231/ap_on_bi_ge/viacom_time_warner_cable
> 
> 
> Personally, I'd like to see MTV go dark.  It's absolute sh!t and feeds 
> the decay of our society, imo.


Oops...sorry...should have been OT.



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Thanks for yet another great year of Foxpro talk

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Thanks again to the entire ProFox community for helping me in the world 
of the Fox.  I'm only too happy to give back to anyone here as I've 
received so much help in Foxpro since 1999.

Happy New Year to alland to all a good night.



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Re: Thanks for yet another great year of Foxpro talk

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Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Dec 31, 2008, at 3:34 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
> 
>> Happy New Year to alland to all a good night.
> 
>   Going to bed so soon? ;-)


Well, going offline for the rest of year soon!  ;-)



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Re: [OT] No more Colbert, Spongebob, MTV, and others perhaps

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Michael Madigan wrote:
> Spongebob is Shakespeare compared to MTV.
> 
> MTV has certainly speeded up the destruction of America


I do enjoy SpongeBob!  I agree with your comment on MTV.  What kind of 
freakin' dooschbags are running that network?  What happened to the good 
folks who were responsible for getting it started?  MTV has gone the 
same way as WWF (now WWE) where they put too much sex into a non-sex 
product.  Yeah, I love sexy stuff, but I swear the last 'x' times I've 
seen MTV it's been about a lot of punks (and sex).



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[NF] M$ Zune players conk out

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http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20081231/ap_on_hi_te/tec_zunes_zapped

SAN FRANCISCO - Happy New Year from Microsoft Corp.: Your Zune is dead.

Thousands of Microsoft's Zune media players — the software company's 
answer to Apple Inc.'s iPod — unexpectedly conked out Wednesday and 
showed users an error message, prompting references to "Y2K for Zunes." 
The problems appeared when people tried to start up their devices.

Frustrated users lit up Microsoft's online support forum for Zunes with 
more than 2,500 messages by Wednesday afternoon.

Late Wednesday, the Redmond, Wash.-based company said the outage 
affected only the 30-gigabyte Zune models and was caused by a problem 
with their internal clock. Microsoft expected the problem to clear up as 
the clocks ticked over to Jan. 1, though users will have to jump through 
some hoops to get their Zunes back to normal, including letting the 
batteries die down completely before the devices will restart successfully.

The crash of so many Zunes at once drew comparisons to the Y2K 
programming problem that stoked fears about a widespread computer 
meltdown in 2000 when the machines ticked over to the new millennium.

Zunes have paltry popularity compared the iPod, which owns nearly 
three-quarters of the MP3 market, compared with Zune's single-digit 
market share, according to statistics from the NPD Group. But some users 
are fiercely loyal, and newer Zunes have gotten positive reviews.



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Re: [NF] Microsoft Bugs?

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Gil -- any reason you're cutting/pasting but not getting rid of the 
original emails?  What gives, man?


Gil Hale wrote:
>> I mean, if they would have been carrying malaria that incident would have
>> been almost as bad as... hmm... MS releasing Vista.
> 
> Very good, Charlie!  That brought a big assed grin to my face at the end of
> a very long week.  heh-heh...
> 
> Gil
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com
>> [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]on Behalf Of Charlie Coleman
>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:31 PM
>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>> Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft Bugs?
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, at least the bugs he released into the audience were not actually
>> carrying malaria.
>>
>> I mean, if they would have been carrying malaria that incident would have
>> been almost as bad as... hmm... MS releasing Vista.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> -Charlie
>>
>> At 08:24 AM 2/5/2009 -0600, Ed Leafe wrote:
>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2900/
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Ed Leafe
>>
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Re: 2 things added recently to ProFox downloads area

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Alan Bourke wrote:
> Hey, handy to have. Thx!


Yeah, I'd had the need for some time and so I finally took the time to
throw them together.  Hope it helps someone else too!

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Re: [NF] Microsoft Bugs?

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Paul Hill wrote:
> Unfortunately the only effective treatments both have strong side
> effects:  Linux (beard growth) and MacOS (homosexual urges).


LOL!!

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suppressing foxuser.* files in vfp9 distributed app

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We've got RESOURCE = OFF (2nd line, just after TITLE) in our config.fpw 
yet the foxuser.* files are still being created.  We do not have any 
code in the app that says SET RESOURCE ON either.  What gives?

tia!
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Re: suppressing foxuser.* files in vfp9 distributed app

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Tracy Pearson wrote:
> Check the following:
> 
>   Do you have the config.fpw set to be included?

Yes, it's in the project.

>   On the users workstation, is the PATH environment variable invalid?
> (i.e. "c:\windows\c:\windows\system32" is missing a semi-colon.)


Hmmm...our QC (quality control) tester is using VMWare, but I'll have to 
check with him on that.

Thanks for the idea!
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Re: [NF] Microsoft Bugs?

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Gil Hale wrote:
> Old habits...


You're one or two keystrokes away from greatness!  ;-)

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Re: suppressing foxuser.* files in vfp9 distributed app

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Rick Schummer wrote:
>>> Yes, it's in the project.<<
> 
> If included in the EXE then are also leaving open the external FPW 
> (ALLOWEXTERNAL ON) in the
> internal Config.FPW?


No, ALLOWEXTERNAL ON is not there.  I should add it for a future 
release, though.

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Re: suppressing foxuser.* files in vfp9 distributed app

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Tracy Pearson wrote:
> Are you sure your application is creating the foxuser.* files. Loader app,
> vrunfox or something else might be creating the files.
> 
> Tracy


There's no loaderit's all deployed via Installshield Pro 2009.  I'll 
have to check the scripts to ensure that the foxuser.* isn't coming for 
the ride.  (It's a legacy script.)

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Re: How could this error happen? (VFP9SP1 free tables on LAN)

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Allen wrote:
> Have you run the code twice, it must be open
> Al
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On
> Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC
> Sent: 16 March 2010 23:51
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: How could this error happen? (VFP9SP1 free tables on LAN)
> 
> Here's the code:
> 
> nID = erl_sub.idnum
> sele a.pmf, a.mu_date, b.date, b.time,;
>   b.sesid, .F. as SesXRec, a.attmark;
>   from seats a, sessions b;
>   where a.sesid = b.sesid;
>   and a.erlsubid = nID;
>   and b.date > dNewStop;
> union select c.pmf, c.mu_date, b.date, b.time,;
>   b.sesid, .T. as SesXRec, 0 as attmark;
>   from sessionx c, sessions b;
>   where c.sesid = b.sesid;
>   and c.erlsubid = nID;
>   and b.date > dNewStop;
>   into cursor TempSes
> 
> 
> Often users are getting "Error 24 - Alias name is already in use."  How 
> can that be?  If cursor TempSes existed already, wouldn't it just be 
> overwritten?  If this perhaps due to some other area of code having a 
> temporary DBF open called TempSes?


Even if it's open, shouldn't the subsequent runs just overwrite what's 
already created?

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Re: How could this error happen? (VFP9SP1 free tables on LAN)

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Richard Kaye wrote:
> I would try to avoid single letter table aliases as back in the day when 
> there were only 10 workareas, you could refer to them as a, b, c, etc. 


Definitely agree with this ever since I recall Ed saying that in the 
90s.   ;-)

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Re: How could this error happen? (VFP9SP1 free tables on LAN)

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Doesn't this test prove you wrong?

LOCAL liLoop as Integer
FOR liLoop = 1 TO 10
CREATE CURSOR crap (foo c(3), bar i)
INSERT INTO crap VALUES (CHR(32+liLoop),liLoop)
ENDFOR


Allen wrote:
> Not if its open
> Al
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On 
> 
> Even if it's open, shouldn't the subsequent runs just overwrite what's 
> already created?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: How could this error happen? (VFP9SP1 free tables on LAN) - SOLVED!

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Tracy Pearson wrote:
> You're creating a new cursor, not selecting into a cursor there. Apples and
> oranges in my opinion.


Solved it---if it's a CURSOR, then it doesn't error, but if it's a 
TABLE, then it fails.

Here was my test code:

LOCAL liLoop as Integer, nID as Number, dNewStop as Date

CLOSE DATABASES ALL

CREATE TABLE TempSes (foo c(3), bar i) && if this is a CURSOR, no error 
occurs, but it errors if it's a TABLE DBF
INSERT INTO TempSes VALUES ('TEST',123)

USE c:\symplcty\sym_data\erl_sub IN 0 SHARED
USE c:\symplcty\sym_data\seats IN 0 SHARED
USE c:\symplcty\sym_data\sessions IN 0 SHARED
USE c:\symplcty\sym_data\sessionx IN 0 SHARED

SELECT erl_sub
SCAN
nID = erl_sub.idnum
WAIT WINDOW "Processing " + ALLTRIM(STR(nID,15,5)) NOWAIT
dNewStop = GOMONTH(DATE(),24)
USE IN (SELECT("TempSes")) && using this removes the error, regardless 
of whether created as CURSOR or TABLE
sele a.pmf, a.mu_date, b.date, b.time,;
b.sesid, .F. as SesXRec, a.attmark;
from seats a, sessions b;
where a.sesid = b.sesid;
and a.erlsubid = nID;
and b.date > dNewStop;
union select c.pmf, c.mu_date, b.date, b.time,;
b.sesid, .T. as SesXRec, 0 as attmark;
from sessionx c, sessions b;
where c.sesid = b.sesid;
and c.erlsubid = nID;
and b.date > dNewStop;
into cursor TempSes

ENDSCAN

I'll probably change to 2-letter aliases also.  Thanks for your 
thoughts, guys.  Good pointer, Al!


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Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?

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Tracy Pearson wrote:
> It works best with the exe local and the data away.
> As long as you are buffering your tables, a disconnection has less of a
> chance to corrupt the data. 
> 
> YMMV

So this means that when they open the VPN, it's just like a mapped drive 
and hence my local VFP EXE can point to that mapped folder?  Or is it 
like UNC or something else?  I really haven't had to deal with VPNs much.

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Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?

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Malcolm Greene wrote:
> Michael,
> 
>> Client wants to put the VFP database folder and files on their server in 
> SomeWhereElse, PA and have a workstation in SomeRemoteTown, PA work over 
> the VPN.  So basically, can the app reside locally and access the data 
> folder over the VPN?  Or must I locate everything on the VPN?  Or tell 
> him this won't work?
> 
> 1. Why not use MySQL vs. DBF's?

Oh I would now absolutely without a doubt--that's what I've done for his 
last 3-4 apps.  But this is an older one from 2003 that I did for them. 
  I'm prepared to retool it for MySQL but that's not an expense he wants 
if he can get the VPN to work with this.

> 
> 2. Use GotoMyPC or TerminalServices/Remote Desktop and do everything on
> the remote PC?

Multiple users...not gonna work.

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Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?

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Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Michael J. Babcock, MCP
>  wrote:
>> Client wants to put the VFP database folder and files on their server in
>> SomeWhereElse, PA and have a workstation in SomeRemoteTown, PA work over
>> the VPN.  So basically, can the app reside locally and access the data
>> folder over the VPN?  Or must I locate everything on the VPN?  Or tell
>> him this won't work?
> ---
> 
> Very sucky response is what you will have.
> 
> Time spent here would be better to suggest real C/S data storage and
> consider using local cursors at best.  Caveat is that the data is
> exposed on the web.  So customer names, $$, & details could be picked
> by others.

No sensitive information that they care about being exposed 
(thankfully).  And if I got a SSL certificate on the web site, that (if 
I understand correctly) removes the concern for exposing data.  ???

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Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?

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Vincent Teachout wrote:
> Michael J. Babcock, MCP wrote:
>> Client wants to put the VFP database folder and files on their server in 
>> SomeWhereElse, PA and have a workstation in SomeRemoteTown, PA work over 
>> the VPN.  So basically, can the app reside locally and access the data 
>> folder over the VPN?  Or must I locate everything on the VPN?  Or tell 
>> him this won't work?
> 
> We had to solve this very issue.  It CAN work, but it is ridiculously 
> slow.  A better solution is to have both App and data remote, and run 
> them via RDP over VPN.


Would this not work for a multi-user scenario, though?  It's usually 
just one person, but I'll tell them that while it could be done, it may 
be slower.

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Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?

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Stephen Russell wrote:
> No an ssl only makes hard for them to easedrop on massages sent.  
> Anyone can find the exposed sb and then frack it open.


Well, since it's a MySQL database, I could restrict the host access, and 
that would be another safety level.  That way, it wouldn't be wide open 
for anyone to access/hack???

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Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?

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Alan Bourke wrote:
> I would be very firmly of the opinion that the only way this will work
> resiliently is with a thin-client approach, i.e. RDP session piped
> through the VPN connection. 


...where the app and data all reside on the remote machine, and he's 
basically just using RDP to shell in, right?

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[NF] MySQL column widths -- optimized for multiples of 8 anymore?

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Awhile back, Ed and Kevin wrote some nice apps to convert your DBFs into 
MySQL tables.  At the time, there was some idea that making your column 
width in multiples of 8 was a good thing for MySQL to optimize (I'm 
guessing because of internal word sizes?).

Is this still the case, does anyone know?  Or is it now a moot point?

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Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?

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Bill Anderson wrote:
> Take a look at http://www.graphon.com/ (Go Global)


WOW.  This looks to be HUGE if it truly allows you to take your Windows 
fat/rich/smart -client app and make it work over the web without rewrite!

Have you used this before with traditional VFP apps, Bill?  Sounds too 
good to be true.  If this truly works, that means we don't have to worry 
about rewriting everything in DotNet as _Stephen always suggests  


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Re: [NF] MySQL column widths -- optimized for multiples of 8 anymore?

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Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Mar 17, 2010, at 4:41 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
> 
>> Awhile back, Ed and Kevin wrote some nice apps to convert your DBFs into 
>> MySQL tables.  At the time, there was some idea that making your column 
>> width in multiples of 8 was a good thing for MySQL to optimize (I'm 
>> guessing because of internal word sizes?).
>>
>> Is this still the case, does anyone know?  Or is it now a moot point?
> 
>   I think that that was an early optimization for the MyISAM engine, but 
> I doubt that it is necessary anymore. I haven't thought about it in a while 
> until you just mentioned it.


I was contemplating going into yours (or Kevin's) PRG and modifying the 
code to NOT change the width but instead be truly accurate so the widths 
match VFP-to-MySQL.

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[NF] GraphOn (was Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?)

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MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
> Bill Anderson wrote:
>> Take a look at http://www.graphon.com/ (Go Global)
> 
> 
> WOW.  This looks to be HUGE if it truly allows you to take your Windows 
> fat/rich/smart -client app and make it work over the web without rewrite!
> 
> Have you used this before with traditional VFP apps, Bill?  Sounds too 
> good to be true.  If this truly works, that means we don't have to worry 
> about rewriting everything in DotNet as _Stephen always suggests  
> 
> 

Starting new thread for graphon discussion.

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Re: [NF] GraphOn (was Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?)

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Bill Anderson wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC <
> mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
> 
>> MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
>>> Bill Anderson wrote:
>>>> Take a look at http://www.graphon.com/ (Go Global)
>>>
>>> WOW.  This looks to be HUGE if it truly allows you to take your Windows
>>> fat/rich/smart -client app and make it work over the web without rewrite!
>>>
>>> Have you used this before with traditional VFP apps, Bill?  Sounds too
>>> good to be true.  If this truly works, that means we don't have to worry
>>> about rewriting everything in DotNet as _Stephen always suggests
>>  
>>>
>> Starting new thread for graphon discussion.
>>
> 
> We've had it demoed at our user group. Several people I respect swear by it.
> 
> Bill


So is this a tool for taking your traditional VFP apps using VFP tables 
on a server truly to the webas easy as they say?

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Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?

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Paul McNett wrote:
> On 3/17/10 2:38 PM, geoff wrote:
>> Ive done this a couple times before, but as others have said, it is truly
>> murderously slow. And in many cases so slow as to be useless. And then add a
>> second user and suddenly it is almost unworkable with data corruption and
>> other disasters. Quite simply, don't do it.
> 
> Up until a couple messages ago, I was under the impression that he wanted to 
> put a 
> VFP database on the other side of the VPN, which would perform horribly as 
> you say. 
> But apparently it is a MySQL database, which can work reasonably well, even 
> multi-user.

No no no...you were right the first time.  I said if I was to re-do it, 
I'd definitely use the MySQL database backend as I've done for the guy's 
last few apps.

> I was doing this back in VFP6,7,8 and MySQL 3.51 and 4.x, in 2002-2005 or so, 
> using 
> SPT connections and making the cursors updatable with tableupdate(). Indeed, 
> one of 
> the major reasons for moving away from VFP tables to MySQL was for good 
> remote 
> performance.

Which is why I still swear by it.

> 
> Along with good performance, it can be every bit as secure as banking online.

What is "every bit secure as banking online" -- using MySQL?

> 
> IMO nobody should be using VFP databases for data anymore, given the 
> available robust 
> alternatives.

Agreed.  VFP databases are awesome for local/LAN stuff, but you open up 
so many more opportunities by using a database like MySQL (or similar).

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Re: [NF] GraphOn (was Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?)

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Bill Anderson wrote:
> You need a fairly powerful server and the user needs to run a shortcut
> (there may be JS involved) and you're off to the races...


Wow!  Love technology advances like that.  It's nice to have 
alternatives to having to rewrite legacy stuff in today's language du jour.

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Re: [NF] GraphOn (was Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?)

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Stephen Russell wrote:
> Wonder why people took to the web?


haha...I missed the tongue-in-check icon.  :-)

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Re: Can traditional VFP9 (with VFP9 database on backend) apps work over VPN?

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Vincent Teachout wrote:
> When I say slow, I mean mind-numbingly, murderous-rage-inducing slow. 
> Your clients are likely to kill each other.  Which may solve your problem.


It's a relatively small app.  I pitched an offer to rewrite it using 
MySQL on the backend for $1000.  Could be some vacation money.  :-) 
It'd be easy for me to do that since I developed it in n-tier fashion. 
Plus I've got a nice, easy framework I designed and use for all my MySQL 
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Re: VFP9 - Preview then print

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Cathy Pountney wrote:
>> My guess is junk in the printer environment record.  Open the report
>> form file as a dbf (example, USE reports\myreport.frx) and delete the
>> contents of EXPR, TAG, and TAG2 fields on the first record ONLY.  Then
>> recompile.
> 
> Whoa there .. don't get so crazy with recommending someone delete all that
> information!!
> 
> The contents of EXPR should not be completely deleted. That field contains
> information such as the orientation, number of copies, color settings, etc.
> Some of that information needs to stay in that field. Only remove the lines
> that relate to printer-specific information. 
> 
> You can safely delete the full contents of Tag and Tag2. 
> 
> Cathy Pountney


If you search the archives, I put code from my projecthook in there 
(from wOOdy years ago) that blanks out TAG,TAG2 and respects the 
orientation in EXPR.

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Re: VFP9 - Speed

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Jarvis, Matthew wrote:
> Another way to try this is (winging it):
> 
> Select max( date) from winhst where client=myclient

Unless I misunderstood the OP, this is what I'd do.

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Re: Strange Reporting Problem with Clients

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Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Kurt Wendt  wrote:
>> I would expect Errors to show up when it happens - but, not in the
>> Screenshot. And, yes - the particular report today - was an Older Report
>> Form - and FRM instead of an FRX. Does that make a difference???
> -
> 
> Tell people that you do FoxPro and not VFP work isn't that right?


Bt.

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Re: Large # Rec's, Cursors & UR Opinion...

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Richard Kaye wrote:
> Unless your record size is really large or involves a lot of memo fields, I 
> can't imagine that VFP wouldn't laugh at a 3000 row cursor. A cursor can be 
> maintained completely in memory by VFP and should be faster than temp tables. 
> You can create indexes on cursors and the time to create and maintain the 
> indexes would probably be saved by not having to perform table scans for each 
> of your processes. But as Ted R. would say, you need to test your code under 
> realistic conditions to determine the best performing code.

I agree with RK.  VFP will handle your 3000-record cursor just fine with 
its own temp indexes.  Do NOT use the IDX indexes as you had in the 
past.  Just use a CURSOR and indexes with it for simplicity's sake.

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Re: Large # Rec's, Cursors & UR Opinion...

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Kurt Wendt wrote:
> But - Virgil - Cursors act largely like a Temp DBF - so, I see no reason
> not to use a Cursor over a Temp DBF - exact in the case of what I am
> trying to figure out here. As in - will it slow things down too much -
> with too many records and TOO Many Queries made to it - during the
> processing of a SINGLE Invoice...


As others have said in the past, try to avoid disk I/O.  Cursors give 
you a shot at that if there's enough memory.  Otherwise, they'll use 
disk as needed, if I understand how it works correctly.

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Re: Large # Rec's, Cursors & UR Opinion...

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Kurt Wendt wrote:
> So - Mike - sorry if this sounds like a clueless question (but, I'm also
> under a crunch to finish this program update) - but, I've never heard of
> an Index specific to a Cursor. Although, I suspect you do NOT Mean ORDER
> BY when creating a Cursor using SELECT. After doing some quick searching
> in the VFP online Help - I see the UNIQUE option within the CREATE
> CURSOR - SQL Command. Is THIS the Index that you are referring to?

CREATE CURSOR crap (foo c(10), bar i)
INDEX ON foo TAG foo
INDEX ON bar TAG bar
SET ORDER TO foo

These may create temp files on disk, but they'll automatically be 
managed so you don't have to worry about associating the proper IDX to 
them.  They're treated like a CDX.  (You've used CDX before, right?)


> Sorry to admit I haven't really worked with doing Indexed Cursors. But,
> it sure seems that it MUST be the route I follow for this problem of
> mine.

No problem.  It's just like DBFs except that VFP automatically 
manages/handles all file stuff and cleans up after itself.  Easier, imo.

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Re: Large # Rec's, Cursors & UR Opinion...

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Tracy Pearson wrote:
> When using a cursor, "CREATE INDEX field TAG tagname" creates a temp CDX on
> the local drive and when you close the cursor the temp CDX goes away on its
> own.


Cool...didn't ever use that one.  How's that different than INDEX ON 
field TAG fieldtag?  Since it's a CURSOR, wouldn't it be local anyway?

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Re: [NF] Just got strange request from boss.

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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> Below is an interesting link titled "Anyone using Nexus One on AT&T?  If 
> so, how is the service, and will it work without any kind of data plan?"
> 
> After looking into the Nexus One, I'm going to stick with  my Apple 
> iPhone 3GS.  I my evaluate the Nexus One again at some later date.
> 
> I'm really enjoying my iPhone.  I signed up for the New York Times' text 
> message alerts yesterday.  One came in last night about 2:30 PM and 
> nagged me until I got up and read the message.  LOL  I have the iPhone 
> 3GS with 16 gigs of memory, and speed/connections are very good.
> 
> My iPhone 3GS doesn't take full advantage of the speed built into the 
> hardware; because, the 3G network is a bottleneck, but AT&T claims to 
> have the fastest 3G network out there.  The 4th Generation, (eg 4G) 
> smartphones, OS(s), and networks are coming, but it will be a couple of 
> years until all that is fully ready to go, so I'm very happy with my 
> iPhone 3GS.
> 
> If AT&T has its 4G network available in the Abilene, Texas area at the 
> time my 2 year contract ends, I may upgrade to the iPhone 4G, which 
> should be coming out soon, but where's the AT&T 4G network to utilize it?
> 
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=6e59f192748b51e9&hl=en
> 
> or
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/ydcuprf


I just wish I could get a cell phone plan with unlimited texting and 
maybe 500 minutes/month for under $50.  Sometimes I think about not 
having a cell phone but just a texting device instead, and using a 
land-line phone again, or better yet, Skype like Vince Teachout has 
described.  Hate spending over $2000/yr on telecommunications.


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Re: [NF] Just got strange request from boss.

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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> I'll be looking into ways I might lower my monthly cost for mobile 
> communications.  Also, competition from folks like Google, Nexus One, 
> AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, and all the others may eventually settle prices 
> down.  Look at how the price of computers have come down over the last 
> 10 year, even as the technology and power of computers have increased 
> exponentially.  We will need to keep an eye on the battle between 
> traditional networks like AT&T and wi-fi as 4G comes of age.


I just think it's outrageous that you have to pay $2000+ annually for 
phone/text/data.  Perhaps I'm the one "out of touch?"

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Re: [NF] Just got strange request from boss.

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kamcgin...@gmail.com wrote:
> We have boostmobile for our support people who make a lot of client calls. 
> $50/mo for unlimited voice, texting and web.
> The web is limited, but the other is fine.
> 
> their online payment system stinks, but the service is good, at least in the 
> SF bay area. I think it goes by Sprint.


My contract with AT&T is up in December this year.  I'm wondering if the 
early-termination fee would be worth it if BoostMobile meets my needs 
and would save me the $$ I'd lose in the early-term fee?

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Re: Low cost fax (was Re: [NF] Just got strange request from boss)

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Malcolm Greene wrote:
> Check out kall8.net - you can get your own toll free phone number that 
> can receive faxes (as pdf's) and vmail (as mp3's) for less than
>  $5/month.
> 
> There are many low cost internet fax services that allow you to fax 
> via email or a web form.
> 
> Malcolm


MaxEmail.com is what I use.  It's great.

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Re: VFP 6.0 Developer Looking for work

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RONALD MIRANDA wrote:
> Hi fellow professionals,


Hi Ronald,

Good luck in your search.  If you liked VFP6, you'll absolutely love 
where we are today (VFP9).  HUGE advancements since 6.

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Problem with VFP9SP2 form not showing (not respecting modality)

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I've got a simple SCX form that is getting its WindowType property reset 
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Re: Problem with VFP9SP2 form not showing (not respecting modality)

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Frank Cazabon wrote:
> OK, was just a WAG, but just checked it out:
> 
> If you have a form set as a Top Level Form, and this calls a Modal form 
> that is set as an In Screen form, then that second screen will never 
> show and the code will just run to the next line, which is what may be 
> happening here.  I have a sample project that shows this that I can 
> email to you if you want to see what I am talking about.
> 
> Frank.


Thanks, Frank, Tracey, and others.  It's not a top-level form.  I'm 
finding some other unholy behavior so I think I'll just nuke and 
re-build this form.  It's very small and so terminating this pest is not 
a huge loss.  I do appreciate the feedback though.

Did you ever get some things in VFP that just can't be explained?  This 
seems to be one of them.  I've got code releasing the form and yet when 
I call it again, it's got the same values I had from the original call. 
  It's almost like it's not residing in memory
as expected (nor releasing as expected).  Freaky.


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A4 paper for your VFP reports

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(Daytime gig--Sylvan)

We've got mostly US-based centers, but we do have foreign ones as well. 
  Apparently they're having a problem trying to print on A4 paper.

How do you guys handle your reports printing on A4 as well as regular 
letter (8.5x11) size?  Do I have to create a new (copy) of the report 
and format that for A4 paper size?

tia.

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Printing issue in Bahrain (VFP9SP1)

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Reports reside on the server.  Center is able to print reports from only 
one workstation.  Same app on other workstations just prints our logo at 
top and then horizontal black line.

Same app...one workstation prints fine; others don't.  Center is in 
Bahrain (Middle East).

Ideas?

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Re: Printing issue in Bahrain (VFP9SP1)

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Jarvis, Matthew wrote:
> Is everyone using the same network printer?


Yep.


> If not, fonts or corrupted printer driver?


Our support tech said he re-installed the drivers.  I told them to 
re-install the Installshield package.

Difficult to support some of these places...apparently they're 12 hours 
different than our time here (EST).

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Re: Printing issue in Bahrain (VFP9SP1)

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Ajit Abraham wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I stay in Bahrain. You mentioned you have support tech here, but I can 
> help if you need to try anything specific.
> 
> By the way, I too had the same problem with one of my reports. One 
> workstation printing ok, and others don't. I changed the font to Arial 
> and now it works fine. If it is a HP printer, try changing the driver to 
>   HP IIIP - just to check it out.

Hi Ajit,

That's exactly what I was looking into doing--changing it to use Arial 
instead of Garamond.  I also wonder if the "Font Script" comes into play 
as well?  Checking the help docs, it talked about the language setup on 
the computer.

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Re: Memo's in grids

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Peter Hart wrote:
> Hi Allen and Kent
> 
> Edit box works.  Only shows "memo" with sparse set true.  Unfortunately
> the edit box only show the top half of the words in the 1st line.  Maybe
> if I have a look at alignment?

Also get rid of the border (set border to 0 = None).

> 
> Were would I put the left(memofield,100) code?
> At the moment the columns aren't bound to the table. So nothing in the
> control sources.

I created a field in the SELECT SQL that I use to hold the first 'n' 
characters of the memo field.


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Re: Memo's in grids

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Peter Hart wrote:
> Hi Alan
> 
> The purchase order entry form is extremely busy so no space to add a
> separate text box.
> The product lines are entered by typing the first letter of the product
> code which brings up an entry form with a list box showing all product
> codes starting with that letter.  As you type more letters/numbers the
> list gets shorter.  When the right code appears you can arrow down to
> select and pressing the enter key populates the text box etc. On that
> form.  One of which is the description edit box. Filling in the missing
> parts and select the post command button populates the line on the grid.
> There are two pages to the form so I could put the description details
> on page two but they would then have to click between the pages to view
> it. I suppose I could add a field at the end of the tempory cursor to
> hold the full detail and make the original one a text field to show only
> the 1st line of the description.
> 
> Will persevere
> 
> Got to go out to a client now so will look when I get back.


Perhaps a pop-up?  Or increase the rowheight of the grid so as to show 2 
  lines in each row for the memo field?  Chews up your space vertically 
but perhaps acceptable.

I never let users edit inside grids.  My grids are "display only."

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Re: I hate it when companies make changes that break code.

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Vincent Teachout wrote:
> Thanks, Google.  Now I have to go and modify a bunch of scripts that 
> USED TO work just fine.
> 
> 
> http://www.google.com


When I first saw web services, that's what scared me the most...the fact 
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Re: How did you get your start in FoxPro?

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Fred Taylor wrote:
> I'd been working as professional programmer in mostly Fortran for about 5
> years when I first had to do a data job in dBase][ in 1984.  From there to
> dBaseIII, then someone suggested FoxBase.  Did that and SCO FoxBase for
> years, and never looked back.  From SBT roots on both DOS and XENIX, worked
> on TIW WorkShop for many years moving it from DOS, to WIN, to VFP versions.
> VFP programming for a call center for a few years, then some contract work
> for the US Bankruptcy courts.  Currently still have a 9-5 working in VFP,
> and doing side work in all Fox versions.  Managed to keep steady work for
> most of the years in Fox.  Never had the time to get a degree, had been
> going to school for architecture when the computer bug for software bit in
> 1979.  Seriously looking at Python as I've got a long way to go before I can
> retire.  Retire, yeah right.  Some kinda cruel joke, I'll have to work for
> 20 years after I die.
> 
> Fred

Look at it this way, Fred---you're born broke, you can die broke too.  :-)

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Automated test harness for VFP apps

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I don't think they exist, but our Q/C group is asking.  So I google and 
found this:

"Visual FoxPro 8.0: Using the Automated Test Harness"
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa977109%28VS.71%29.aspx

Anyone ever use this or some other automated test harness device for 
helping to test your VFP applications?

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Re: Automated test harness for VFP apps

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Dave Crozier wrote:
> Mike,
> If you remember back to Foxforward then Alan Stevens was heavily involved in
> VFP testing frameworks and gave a session on VFP harnesses.. It may well be
> useful to give him a call. 
> 
> http://netcave.org/


Hi Dave,

I thought of that initially, but that was Alan's TDD (Test Driven 
Development) that required you to write your code in a certain fashion. 
  This app is over 15 years old and written in traditional monolithic 
foxpro fashion.  Or am I misunderstanding how Alan's TDD could be used here?

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Re: Automated test harness for VFP apps

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Tracy Pearson wrote:
> MB Software Solutions,    LLC wrote on 2010-04-05: 
>> I don't think they exist, but our Q/C group is asking.  So I google
>> and found this:
>>
>> "Visual FoxPro 8.0: Using the Automated Test Harness"
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa977109%28VS.71%29.aspx
>>
>> Anyone ever use this or some other automated test harness device for
>> helping to test your VFP applications?
>>
> 
> I've not used that specifically, and only touched FoxUnit occasionally.
> http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~UnitTesting

from the link:

"Alan uses a highly customized version of FoxUnit for his test-driven 
development that he will also be using for his session at the conference."

So integrating this into this old app might be a hefty challenge?

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Re: Caption Exe File others vfp

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Tracy Pearson wrote:

> Have a look at using the _VFP.Forms or _Sreen.Forms collections (they behave
> differently).


What's the difference?

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Re: PEM editor

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Sytze de Boer wrote:
> I've read some great reviews about this product but I'm a little worried
> about one aspect.
> If I'm "too grey" for this product, is it easy to revert and un-install?
> 


You will LOVE the new PEMEditor from VFPX.  It is absolutely awesome. 
I'm not sure how you can undo it, but I don't think you'll want to.

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Re: SQL Select and $ operator

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msav...@golden.net wrote:
> I need to look in a field for a string... you sort of locate for string $
> field.
> 
> How do I do the same thing in an sql select statement.
> Mike


select iid, cname from mytable where cname like '%somethinginsidefield%'
select iid, cname from mytable where cname like 'startswiththis%'
select iid, cname from mytable where cname like '%endswiththis'

Use the % character as a mask.

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Why would this COPY TO fail if the file already exists?

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(VFPSP1)
* lcfile gets set in code above this...and is a valid filename.
copy to (lcFile) Delimited with Tab

This line works as long as there's no file already existing.  If the 
file exists, it throws Error 202 ("Invalid path or filename").

Is there a way to force it to overwrite without me having to check for 
the existence of the file and delete if existing?


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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

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Ken Kixmoeller f/h wrote:
> James E Harvey wrote:
>> We don't support Safari, and the only "feedback" I've ever received was from
>> a web master in Canada.
>>
>> It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
>> browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?
> 
> "Yeah, screw those folks that don't use *my* browser! Who needs 'em 
> anyway? Apple types are all fanatical idiots anyway, so we don't want 
> *their* money."
> 
> Boy, that's my kind of company!


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Re: SQL Select and $ operator

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msav...@golden.net wrote:
> Just to clarify if mytable contains a record with a value of '12345678' in
> the cname field and i'm looking for '45'
> 
> the select statement would be
> select iid, cname from mytable where cname like '&45' it will return the
> record described above?
> 
> i.e. any record with '45' in the cname field...  strings like '45678',
> '9456'.


No, not &, but %.

select iid, cname from mytable where cname like '%45%' into cursor 
TheResultsYouWant


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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

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Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Ken Kixmoeller f/h
>  wrote:
>> James E Harvey wrote:
>>> We don't support Safari, and the only "feedback" I've ever received was from
>>> a web master in Canada.
>>>
>>> It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
>>> browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?
>> "Yeah, screw those folks that don't use *my* browser! Who needs 'em
>> anyway? Apple types are all fanatical idiots anyway, so we don't want
>> *their* money."
>>
>> Boy, that's my kind of company!
> -
> 
>  IE9  IE9  IE9
> 
> You heard it here folks.  9 is coming your way and it is faster and
> beter then 8 and or 7.


LOL!  When would the latest version of anything be slower?  Oh 
wait...Vista.  

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ShowMyPC.com (was Re: [NF] Sharing a LogMeIn Rescue license)

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>>> Why do people use Logmein anyway.
>>> I use Showmypc and as far as I'm aware it does all that Logmein does.
>>> We use it because it seems to work so much better with pesky firewalls etc
> 
> 
> Wow...ShowMyPC's price for the Business option is a FRACTION of LMI 
> Rescue and appears to have similar features.  Thanks for the link.  It's 
> worth more investigation for sure.
> 


Guys,

I tried ShowMyPC tonight as well as talked with their LiveChat and found 
it very encouraging.  It's not 100% like LogMeIn Rescue (because I think 
LMIR uses Citrix technology, whereas ShowMyPC uses TightVNC), but it's 
98% as good seemingly.  Gonna subscribe tomorrow, most likely.

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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

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Allen wrote:
> I hated dreamweaver. I used frontpage 2003 and still do for some things. but 
> the free visual studio web is good enough and can do apps as well
> Al


I dumped a lot of money into DW and never really got it.  If I could 
only get back all the money I've put into tools that I really didn't 
usewow.  THOUSANDS.  (I'm NOT proud of that!)

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TXNLEVEL equivalent in MySQL or other databases?

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VFP's TXNLEVEL lets you know where you are in a (potentially nested) 
transaction level.  Do other databases like MySQL/SQL 
Server/Oracle/PostgreSQL/Firebird have anything equivalent?

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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

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Kurt Wendt wrote:
> Hey Mike - I totally hear ya! I purchased plugins for the 3D SW I use -
> a good bunch of them in the past - and a number of them I never got
> around to using much - or found them cumbersome when I did. And,
> Thousands sounds about right - when you add them all up!
> 
> :-(


Yep...if I could just stop making purchases for stuff I'm not going to 
use, and get rid of the interest payments on my credit cards/loans, I'd 
be a rich man.  ;-)

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Re: [NF] bulk processing of documents to change fonts

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Vincent Teachout wrote:
> Jarvis, Matthew wrote:
>   > So, being a *very* document intensive place (a hospital) where we have
>> gobs and gobs of documents, procedures, forms, etc stored on our system,
>> usually in Word .doc format, I was thinking about suggesting we think
>> about doing this change over. We get $$$ for cost saving suggestions
>> that are put into practice, so WTF...
>>
>>  
>>
>> However, converting all those docs but hand would quickly negate any
>> cost savings me thinks.
> 
> I think it would only pay (maybe) to apply the changes on a go-forward 
> basis.
> 
> But wouldn't it be a lot easier, cheaper, and more certain to save 
> money, if you simply modify the printer preferences to print in draft 
> mode, or some mode less than "full ink" mode?  You could set up a few 
> "printers" for each printer.  One for full ink, when it's really needed, 
> and one (make it the default) for fast mode, or draft.


This reminds me of the thread that talked about printing with half the 
dots.  Remember?  Imagine swiss cheese a bit.  :-)

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Re: ShowMyPC.com (was Re: [NF] Sharing a LogMeIn Rescue license)

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Alan Bourke wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:45 -0400, "MB Software Solutions,LLC"
>  wrote:
>> MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
>  It's not 100% like LogMeIn Rescue (because I think 
>> LMIR uses Citrix technology,
> 
> Don't think so, LogMeIn use their own proprietary protocol AFAIK.


Definitely very cool, whatever it is.

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Re: Comments are there too many or should syntax explain it all?

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Ken Kixmoeller f/h wrote:
> Alan Bourke wrote:
>> Comments - well I try to make the code as consistent and self-evident as
>> possible, with comments here and there when it's not immediately obvious
>> why something is the way it is. 
> 
> 
> Problem for me is that even nice, long, self-explanatory variable names 
> and a "self-evident" program flow make *lots* of sense when one is 
> creating it. Three years later: "WTF?"


I recall a developer who used to frequent here saying how some of his 
variable names where like 
lcMyReallyVerySuperLongVariableNameSoYouAre1000PctClearWhatIMean.

(Ok, perhaps not THAT long.)

I prayed that I would NEVER have to work in his code.  x1 and x2 are 
absolutely unacceptable, but to go to the extreme opposite as he did 
made me sick to think of coding like that.

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Re: Comments are there too many or should syntax explain it all?

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Jarvis, Matthew wrote:
> What gives me great joy is to come across an older yet well documented
> piece of code, with liberal comments describing the situation and design
> ideas, and why things are the way they are (anyone ever seen
> something in the middle of some code similar to IF Invoice_No <> "8277A"
> ???)...

You'll see that in my code from leftover specific testing 
sometimes...but commented out.  I do that when looking at bizarro 
customer tickets here at the day job.  ("IF stunum=123 THEN SET STEP ON 
ENDIF")


> 
> Then code changes take place and comments are equally good, but then
> CONTRADICT the previous comments so you don't know which is correct
> anymore...

That's why I use a custom Intellisense script for creating comments. 
(*** mjb <> -)   Got that from someone here, iirc.  I know 
Vince uses some custom Intellisense for FUNC/PROC headers, iirc.


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Re: Comments are there too many or should syntax explain it all?

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Stephen Russell wrote:
> Funny but that was the rant the leader had.  TOO MANY COMMENTS get in the way.
> 
> He pointed to code that was 1:1 and it tweaked him.  :)
> 
> This was Claudio Lassala in the brown bag meeting who had the issue.
> 
> His current stance is that comments should be in Source Control and
> not in source code.  I respectfully disagreed.  :)  Claudio went on to
> state how these comments were counter productive to TDD style of
> development, and that was probably his main point.


WOW.  So you're working with Claudio now?

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Re: Comments are there too many or should syntax explain it all?

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Garrett Fitzgerald wrote:
> I do both. Searching for my initials in a 15-year-old code base that
> I've been working on for less than a year makes it a lot easier to
> find my last change than asking Subversion what it was. :-)


Ditto.  Comments in code (not crazy, but one-liners mostly) and a 
check-in comment in VSS too.

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Re: Comments are there too many or should syntax explain it all?

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Jeff Johnson wrote:
> "Stephen Russell said to eliminate 
> database access."


"...and only use DotNet."

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Re: [NF] The FoxPro Gods are toying with me....

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Jarvis, Matthew wrote:
> MS Access sucks! What I used to be able to do in TWO lines in VFP just
> took me all morning to figure out and is something like 200+ lines of
> code...
> 
>  
> 
> In frustration I shouted out "My kingdom for FoxPro!!!" A voice answered
> "Uh dood - we HAVE FoxPro!!"...
> 
>  
> 
> Huh???
> 
>  
> 
> Greek tragedy is that it's FoxPro DOS 2.5, and no, they won't let me
> upgrade to VFP, and what I really need is the visual tools etc


Um, how much is VFP?  Maybe $699?  And how much $$ will you waste 
spinning your wheels with shitty tools?  Reminds me of the story of 
those who spend $3 to save $2 (or less).  Blind ignorance due to being 
stubborn.

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Re: [NF] The FoxPro Gods are toying with me....

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Jarvis, Matthew wrote:
> MS Access sucks! What I used to be able to do in TWO lines in VFP just
> took me all morning to figure out and is something like 200+ lines of
> code...


Matt,

If it really is just TWO lines, download Ed's vRunFox utility.  Perhaps 
that will give you the power you need without requiring full VFP.

??

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Re: [NF] Anyone printing on-demand CD's via Lulu.com or CafePress.com?

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Kurt Wendt wrote:
> I use Lulu to print my book (and I saw one of the copies my students
> bought - and it looked good). 


What book?  URL?  Title?

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Re: [NF] Anyone printing on-demand CD's via Lulu.com or CafePress.com?

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Kurt Wendt wrote:
> I hope I didn't mislead you Mike - if you thought my book was about
> FoxPro. 
> 
> In fact - its about using 3DS Max - 3D SW for the PC - which I initially
> created as a reference book for my students - when I was teaching at
> FIT. 
> 
> So - here is the link:
>   
> http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/3ds-max-a-step-by-step-approach/19
> 2564?productTrackingContext=center_search_results


Very cool!  No, I wasn't misled.  I just wondered what your book was. 
Congrats!  It must be very cool to be an author.

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VFP9SP2 - Clicking on Memo in grid does NOT bring up a memo window

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In one of my apps, I double-click on the Memo field in the grid and up 
pops the viewing window natively (or so I thought--I don't recall adding 
any code to do that).

I created a new app tonight and the Memo field in that grid will NOT pop 
up any window to view the contents.  Ideas as to why?

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Re: kaspersky

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Gérard Lochon wrote:
> The recommendation done is about putting VFP's file extensions in exclude 
> mode within Kaspersky analyse list..


That's what I do with our Sylvan centers computers across the globe--add 
DBF/CDX/FPT to the exclusion list.

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