Re: Dual Boot Linux Installation
I don't know if I told you but what I've done is install Winders Linux on separate disks inside the same machine and use the BIOS startup to select which disk I boot from. Works beautifully, keeps them very separate. Windows knows nothing about the Linux and the Linux can read the windows files when I need to. If you try it, don't unplug the other disk (to be safe) when doing the installations. It all goes horribly wrong :-( Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.3606.2a885...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Reverse DTOS?
Thanks both, So quick when you know how :-) Regards Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.3412.3d0de...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Reverse DTOS?
Is there really no VFP function that is the reverse of DTOS? DTOS turns date into MMDD. I can break it apart manually and put it back together as a date, but it's a bit laborious. Nothing already inside? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.151a.0af3f...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Reverse DTOS?
Thanks Jeff, Now you mention it I seem to remember the client has this in their arsenal too. Probably far poorer than that though. TVM Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.3407.33c90...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] need advice regarding Honesty vs. Brutal honesty with clients
I would add, from all too painful experience within the last few days, if you are going to say something, even in a friendly, helpful, and extremely non-threatening way, be very careful who you say something to. The only people who can doing anything about it are likely to be the higher management, and you may well find they are more defensive than most. They may well be higher management because they put in place the questionable solutions that you are seeking to improve on. I too tend to be at the blunter end of the scale, so my version of what else has been said here is just don't do it. They really don't want to know. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.32e6.03ea6...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] is your billable rate dropping?
The criminals who caused this will not go to jail and will be making even more money on the next upturn. I'd agree with Stephen. All they were doing was taking money that was presented to them. I thought someone in this very mail list was only just the other day saying that that is perfectly legitimate... Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.2ff3.13ca8...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Codebook Runtime Application Help
I was able to get it running by bypassing the preference form all together, but I would like to fix it so it works as intended. I am not sure about the cancel that you mentioned. It's a while since I've seen it so I'm afraid I don't really remember. I'll try to find some time to look at it again, but I'm rather busy at the moment. Is there a way to make the forms read-only so that the user has to click a button to edit/change the data? That way they can change the lot and/or serial number selection without being asked to save. Codebook doesn't do the read or edit mode thing, forms are always editable. I'm sure you could hack it around so that doesn't happen, it's a fundamental part of the framework though. Good luck... Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.2fc2.040de...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Grids, row highlight and memo's
As for grid highlighting try turning themes off. Does that need to be in conjunction with something else? I've set Themes to .F. both at the grid level and, because that didn't work, at the display object level. That didn't work either :-( I've still got the other settings the way they were before I tried that, might those interfere? Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.2fc3.040de...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Grids, row highlight and memo's
I've got a dynamic row background colouring setup going on in my grid, alternating muted colours overlaid by rows with an error condition in red. Works just fine. But I want to turn current row highlighting off, so it doesn't muck up this colouring. I've turned off cellselection (.F.), highlight style (0), and highlight row (.F.) and it's STILL highlighting the row I click on. Is there any way to make it stop? And in a (hopefully unrelated) situation, I've got a memo field that contain way more text than I've got room for on the form, so I just want the contents to appear in a tooltip. I can do that at the cost of a whole column of meaningless (to users) memo/Memo text. What I'd prefer is to show the first little bit of the contents, so empty fields show up as blank space, and *then* the tooltip contains the full text. I haven't find a way to do this. Is there a way? Thanks Mark Stanton ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.101f.036ef...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Grids, row highlight and memo's
Thanks for that Dave, Mark, for the Memo display make the controlsource of the grid column: =Padr(Mline(FieldName,1),254) I'd forgotten about that route. I put an editbox in the grid. It showed the first bit of the memo field as text or blank, which was fine, just not the tooltip bit. I really want the tooltip bit. There's not going to be reams of text, the red highlighting happens if there's anything in the field, and the tooltip would neatly show the (one to three) message(s). If it doesn't fire sometimes... Hmmm. You could easily update it dynamically as you move up and down the grid though. Ah, that would be good, I'd forgotten about that too. Hmm, that might make the error message tooltip show wherever they hover on the row, which currently I also can't do. :-( As for grid highlighting try turning themes off. Ah, fabulous! Thanx, I'll try that. Many thanks Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.2fbd.01598...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Codebook Runtime Application Help
I have developed a small application using codebook 6.2 and have a few questions. I remember thinking that too :-s 1) Launching the runtime app does the flash and vanish after the First Time Running message that informs the user they need to set some settings. When they click OK the preference form does not appear, the application just closes. How do I fix this? That sounds a bit odd. I had one client have that happen too. I seem to remember there are two options, one a bit like cancel, which is what closes the app because it doesn't agree to change options. Does that help? 2) I have a couple of comboboxes on a form that keep asking if I want to save my changes when I select a new value in them. I am not actually change any data, just what is displayed on the form. What is happening here and how do I fix it? Errr, pardon? What's on the form is there by virtue of being in a table. You change the value on the form, on close it notices that the value on the form is not what it loaded from the table and it asks you if you want to save it. It's the way CodeBook's entry forms work. Sounds like it's not quite what you're doing in this instance though... What are you doing? 8-) Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.2fbe.01598...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP app over VNC
I suspect that VNC is single user on Windows because of Windows, and it works properly multi-user on Linux for the same reason. Windows Terminal Server is Bill's equivalent of a proper multi-user box. I'm working remotely for one client exclusively through terminal server. Yes there are some number of people logged in to the terminal server, each with their own separate sessions. It runs just as if I were there and, apart from the vagaries of IP packets, it's pretty robust. You can access the application from anywhere, because you're doing no such thing, you're just accessing the machine and getting it to run the app for you. Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.2fac.396ff...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP app over VNC
My problem with Terminal server is that you can't talk to a customer about what is seen on screen. You can VNC to the terminal server session, errr, I think. I don't know if all this is still pertinent to the original topic.Maybe someone just wanted a way to run VFP apps remotely. TS works well with that (as does VNC of course). As was pointed out though, VNC to Winders boxes isn't great for more than one person though. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.2fad.0208a...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: anyone using Sunline?
Windows search does not by default look in hidden folders and windows has a lot of those. It does let you turn that on though It still sucks. Www.filelocatorpro.com They have a freeware version called Agent Ransack. If that's the free lite version I wonder what's in the paid for version 'cos this one rocks! Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.2f55.1444d...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: anyone using Sunline?
But comparisons with Windows Desktop Search are not valid. WDS and similar tools like Google Desktop Search run as services and maintain a continually updated index as files are added and changed. Last I heard the general advice was turn it off as far as the continual updating, certainly of WDS, goes. Has it got better? Unless this is the case I don't want something on my computer continually working away in the background keeping up indices. And I *certainly* don't want something outside my PC doing it. Agent Ransack is just a search tool that you fire up when needed. That just covers a lot of ground. Agent finds stuff for me in a fraction of the time that WDS does, if WDS ever does which it frequently doesn't. However, since I've got the service turned off I may be doing it a disservice (pun only intended after the fact 8-D). And as Paul (H) says, Agent finds text in any type of file. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/va.2f5b.167b4...@vowleyfarm.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: PDF Watermarks
There's PHP code to do it... Being PHP it's fairly easy to read, and modify? It's an extention to fPDF called fPDi I think. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Netbooks - growing market sector
Not only do I not see what all the fuss is about, but it seems like a seriously retrograde step to me. We started off with computers that no mortal could get near and then the personal computer arrived and bang! Computing for the people. Now it's terribly convenient for the big corporations to take the real computing power back behind closed doors, as far as I can tell largely for the benefit of their own income streams. Of course we trust them to be nice, don't we boys and girls... Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Simple two step query possible in one?
Yes, I don't have control of how the memo field is interpreted. It's the company's main batch system. Pretty central to their business. It's been running for ages. It doesn't work with execscript. I suspect it would be inappropriate for the sake of one query to suggest to them they change such a core part of the system. Thanks for the help y'all. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Simple two step query possible in one?
VFP memo? Yup Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Simple two step query possible in one?
Thanks for that Ted, Sorry for the lack of sample. You're quite right, in general, about how it should be though. I also agree with you that I want a correlated subquery, but VFP (8) says it won't do it. I get a dialog box that says SQL: Queries of this type not supported Much to my surprise the following seems to work SELECT DataEntry.*, DEAudit.* ; FROM DEAudit ; JOIN DataEntry ON DataEntry.thisKey = DEAudit.thatKey ; GROUP BY DataEntry.thisKey ; ORDER BY DEAudit.tChanged DESC with a bit more ordering and filtering. Hmmm, doesn't look good at all, but, supplied by the lead developer from the client, I'll go with it for the moment. Hmm. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Simple two step query possible in one?
Whilst the ExecScript thang is a great idea, my client's batch simply doesn't work like that at the moment 8-( Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Simple two step query possible in one?
Is there a reason why it needs to be done in one step? Because it's in an overnight batch driven from an SQL statement stored in a table. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Simple two step query possible in one?
I'm being asked to do this query in one step, and I'm not sure it's possible. I have a table of data entry and an audit table that records changes to the data. They want all data of a certain type (status open) and the date and username from the *latest* audit entry for each row. The only way I can think to do it is with a subselect in the join condition, but this doesn't look possible from the help and my experimenting. Anyone? Yes, it's all in native VFP (8.0). Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Big blue gets Black Balled
Well that's one monopolistic, draconian, lock-in-focused, often unethical company taken care of. Only locally. Here in England it's just been announced that the whole of the south west region has outsourced it's emergency calls ( a whole lot of other stuff local government related stuff I think) to... IBM 8-| Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Ready Ste Hack!
When they say no one had gained control of the Vista machine, that presumably includes the person trying to use it legally? Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dissapearing project window
Hmmm, evidently not, because that fixes it. Thank you Tracy! The Fox remembers things without the resource file? That's useful to know. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dissapearing project window
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Crooks wrote: You can call the project what ever you want (fm) and then when you build the EXE change the name to farmersmarkets. Yeah, unfortunately (?) it's important that it stays called what it's called otherwise my version control stuff will go haywire. Anyway, Tracy nailed it and it's now fixed. Many thanx to all. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dissapearing project window
Thanks for those Ted, I've just changed my source code control, to CVS+Tortoise, which was also muddying the waters, at least in my head. I hadn't realised that Fox would keep track of resource file controlled items (window position in this case) even though I'd switched it off, if it had already been used in the current session. That's why Tracy's fix worked. So many things happening and going wrong here all at the same time, I got flustered :-( Thanks again. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dissapearing project window
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Kaye wrote: Did you try using as a table and copying to a new table with a PJX extension? Yes I did. Copied to the new pjx file it's a bit bigger (13k, about 5%). And as long as it's not called farmersmarkets (the old name) it works just fine. As soon as I rename it to this (which it needs to be), I get the same ol' same ol' 8-( Reinstall Fox? This seems very odd. Regards Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Dissapearing project window
One of my projects refuses to show onscreen with the project manager. The table (pjx) is there, I can view it as a table, although if I try to look in the DevInfo memo field VFP (9) hangs. If I try to modify project ... the main VFP screen seems to lose focus, suggesting that the project window is active, but the form doesn't appear. If I access the Projects collection off the _vfp variable the project information is there, so it *is* getting accessed, just it won't show on screen. When I switch focus to the command window to try to do something about it _vfp.forms doesn't containt a reference to it! Other projects appear properly, just not the one I'm working on. If I switch off the resource file, it's still the same. Any ideas how I can get this back? Regards Mark Stanton ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Disappearing project window
Hi John, My solution would be to delete the project and re-create it by creating a new project with the same name, adding main.prg then build an app. Hmm, well, in truth there's a few more complications that mean I was hoping not to do that, but on reflection, they may not have a bearing on this, and it may be my only recourse anyway. Ta Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dissapearing project window
Is it off the screen? Or hidden? Nope, that's the bit where, when I switch to the command window, there's no form any more :-( If I modify that project, then switch immediately to the command window and DISPLAY MEMORY, there are no windows defined. The project *is* in the project collection off the _VFP global. The other thing that happens is the format menu pad dissappears, until I switch back to the command window. HOWEVER, the project pad *doesn't* appear as it should do... h :-( Regards Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dissapearing project window
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rick Schummer wrote: You can try to PACK the pjx file when you have it opened exclusively. Also look for any corruption in the file. No obvious corruption, although this thing about looking in the DEVINFO field hanging the (XP-PRO) machine seems a bit odd, isn't it? No deleted records either, since the file is reconstituted from an XML version of my original project file... Regards Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Disappearing project window
My solution would be to delete the project and re-create it by creating a new project with the same name, adding main.prg then build an app. Nope, it doesn't work. I've renamed the project files (in Windoze) and used create project to set up a new one, it doesn't show in exactly the same way that the real one didn't. What's worse, if there's *no* project file with this name (farmersmarkets, in case it makes *any* difference, which I can't imagine it does), I still get the same result, MODIFY PROJECT farmersmarkets takes focus away from me. If click in the command window I get focus back. No error message. If I try to open the project file as a table at this point I *do* get an error message, which is fine because there's no table there! ? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Network Viewer
The website (nmap.org) says there's a GUI version too 8-) Mark Stanton (New Linux owner...) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] any audiofiles ?
I wish *I* had more money than brains. Frontal lobotomy sir? 8-) Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9-Broadband detection
I agree with Paul on the no email front. If your clients are private individuals with email accounts on general ISP's you *will* have problems emailing them files, some of those problems will be insurmountable. Make some registered customer pages on your website that they have to log in to to get access. Give 'em something useful in there and you're even adding value! Check with a database that they've paid when they request the download. Don't download the file to them if they haven't. Make a record in the database of what they downloaded and when. With not too much fiddling you can probably send data between your desktop database ( apps) and the web based one... Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Wireless Router Startup software.
What OS's are they running? If the problem one has Vista that might be the culprit. Microsoft appear to have decided they don't like the DHCP standards and have done something slightly different, which might need a firmware update on your router (since no-one is up to telling MS where to go with their unilateral changes). Mark Stanton Who's just upgraded firmware in his router because of Vista problems. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Nice VFP SQL Select * from virtually anything
Just in case anyone labours under the misapprehension that Microsoft invented this (after reading the intro to this excellent sounding utility), a database called Empress (I think) had some of this (the ability to query arrays as if they were tables) more'n twenty years ago... Merry Christmas! 8-s Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP -- continued
I just phoned Micro$oft Hong Kong. My guess was/is correct. The OEM WinXP and OEM Office licenses that accompanied a PC would expire when that PC died. There is no legal way of transferring to another PC, even though the PC is of the same build as the dead one. The OEM licenses are tied to the soul of the PC. Isn't that a rather convenient thing for them to say? Does it sound reasonable? Fair? Legal? Or perhaps not... Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: SQL improvements
Hi Stephen, why are you using the group by? Is it the sum of a column or another aggregate? Two situations, only the first is an aggregation. However the crux of the matter is the same in both, without this new requirement I can include fields I know to be non-variant across my group in the same query that produces my grouping to reduce the number of selections I need to perform. Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: SQL improvements
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Crozier wrote: The new behaviour only brings VFP into line with standard ANSI standards. As I said, that's what I suspected It is VFP that previously had its own standard(s). However the standard behaviour can simply be made equivalent to the old method and when you look at it closely the standard is more logical. Yes, but it's the details of that more logical that I was asking. See my other replies Thanks Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
SQL improvements
I'm guessing that the new enginebehaviour whereby a group by clause must include all the fields that are selected is to follow a new SQL standard, is that right? Regardless of the source, why is this considered an improvement? It seems to me to reduce my options for querying. I can imagine that it's to protect coders from themselves, but that's the only excuse for it that I can come up with, and I don't want to be protected from myself. Any thoughts? Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: profox@leafe.com Our thread diverged, and Paul was asking me a somewhat different question, I think. Ah, I see. I hadn't thought that, but on reflection it looks like you're right. I hadn't seen your reply to Pauls message either, don't know why, but I have now, sorry I missed it before. Thanks for your thoughts, they're very much appreciated. Best regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ted Roche wrote: Codebook was written a long time ago. Some of the thoughts of the ways to do things have evolved since then. Anything, Ted? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: profox@leafe.com Sorry Ted, A couple of messages up you said the thing I quoted in that message, ie Codebook was written a long time ago. Some of the thoughts of the ways to do things have evolved since then. At the time Paul Newton asked what you were referring to, and I'm interested too. Too busy is certainly a valid reply though. Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
I've been thinking more about this, and I don't think there's more than one advantage there, Backends can be changed, Yup, the backend can be changed fairly (perhaps completely) transparently to the application. fields can be added, No more or less than with a table, surely. Worse, if I'm trying to take fields *away* from tables, that'll break the views defined on them, which doesn't happen without the view. You might claim that this only happens in a badly designed data scenario, though I would have to point out that situations evolve and require redesign. data normalized ??? Isn't this what data design is for? And if you mean that tables can be joined and made to appear as one table, I'd say *that's* what I'm complaining about. When I do anything other than view data the *appearance* falls apart leaving more to do than in the first place. Is that appearance particularly helpful? Though it p'raps doesn't sound like it, I'm trying to rant constructively. I see the separation is potentially useful, I'm just starting to get the feeling that the table is in fact naked though it thinks it's clothed. I'll have a deeper look at the CursorAdaptors since I'm (now) using VFP9. The fact that I'm using CodeBook is probably a bad and good thing. After the initial unpicking, it'll be easier to implement any change system-wide. Anywhere I can find Andy Kramek's stuff? You, Michael, Steve have all talked about implementing something better via SQL, the VFP views are really SQL, so it looks like it's just a not-very-good implementation issue? D'you think something clever here will extend the Fox's life? 8-) Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ted Roche wrote: Perhaps you are expecting too much from views. Yup, I think that's probably what it is. A view is a means of separating your processing code from the way the data is implemented on the back end. Backends can be changed, fields can be added, data normalized and the code calling the view doesn't need to change (even if the view may need to be recreated a few times along the way). Seems like some advantages to me. Yes, it's true. Just that incompleteness 'cos they're on the way to being an entire data manager layer. Ah well. Cubes are primarily for querying data, not for updating it. You ought to make sure you understand what they're offering before you invest to much into that one. Yup, I'd got that. It sounds like it's useful in my application(s), but it's not the same conversation as the views one we've got on to here. Thanx Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
Seems to me that the big disadvantage of views is the inability to update more than one table via the view, or have I got a big chunk of missing knowledge? It certainly doesn't *seem* to work with the way business objects have been implemented in CodeBook... Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ed Leafe wrote: Why would you want to update more than one table per view? With the possible exception of a 1:1 relationship that shares the same PK across two tables, making it essentially one big table, how would that work? Yup, fair point. But to me that knocks the question back a level. Why bother with views? My (apparently painfully) limited knowledge suggests that the point of view is to hide underlying data structure to make complex connections disappear and be able to deal with what appears to be a single table. Which is great. But if to do the other half of the job, update, I then have to go back to the complex underlying structure, really how much have I gained? It seems to me that I've gained a whole extra level of indirection for really not very much back. I s'pose it's so's I can have a nicely separated client/server setup, hmmm, are we impressed boys girls? VFP's view wizard lets (in fact seems to want) me to identify key fields in all the tables in the view, and if it knows that, how far off updating more than one of the tables can it be? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ted Roche wrote: On 8/9/07, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me that the big disadvantage of views is the inability to update more than one table via the view, or have I got a big chunk of missing knowledge? The latter, and it's relational database theory. One view should update one and only one table. Updating more than one is somewhere between difficult and impossible to achieve with 100% reliability. The solution is to update a series of views within a transaction. That sounds a bit like it's the way it is because it's the way it is. Why don't my view do that (update the tables of which it's composed individually, wrapped up in a transaction), since, as you point out, the solution is relatively simple and mechanical? Why offer a solution and then make me do half the work? Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
Ok, so you've both (Ed Ted) put more or less the same scenario. Encouraged by Ted's (wholly accurate, of course) outline of how to do this manually, and the VFP view wizard, how about the following. My view (aka join) works by linking foreign and primary keys ideally. To update it probably requires all primary keys to be included. Then doesn't it become simple? I've got the primary keys for all the tables I want to update. Ok, *if* I don't include those keys or *if* I don't have primary it won't work. Of course, I'd still like an answer to my previous question. If this is really not doable and views can only update one table, how much of an advantage are they really, except to give server tables a local presence? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], MB Software Solutions wrote: I too am steering clear of views now for about a year or more and using something like cursoradapters too...basically a local table called SQLDEFS that has the SQL definition, updatablefieldlist, etc. What's the advantage over views? Is it more than I wrote it so it's got all the features I want? Not that that's invalid at all, of course. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Crozier wrote: Mark, No, your pre made forms are just loaded with a n OLE control cube that the user can manipulate/filter at will using simple cursor drag/drop. I can see I'm'a gonna have to revisit these, thanx Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stephen the Cook wrote: SPT or Stored procedures that take params. Yup, Fairy Nuff Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike yearwood wrote: I will point out 1 thing I've never seen any of these great debaters mention. With ad-hoc parameterized SQL, USERS can do any combination of filtering THEY need. They win, we all win. They lose, we get fired. I don't let them build the entire SQL command, just the filtering parts. Yup. Sounds like a point in favour of the cube stuff that David's using too. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Cascading triggers
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stephen the Cook wrote: What are you capturing? Table, OrigValue, NewValue, User, DateTime, Application Yup, 'cept after an initial try with it I haven't captured application. My changes table is specific to each app. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ed Leafe wrote: Assuming that the main view that the form controls access is called v_foo, I have a view in the main DBC named lv_foo_main. I use that as the basis for constructing the dynamic view, which lives in a temp DBC, and that is what the form controls see. Does that need some quite fancy footwork shifting the BizObj's datasource around? (Is this is getting too CodeBooky?) Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Cascading triggers
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Anderson wrote: RETURN Trigger1() AND Trigger2() AND Trigger3()... Presumably this'll need to be set up after all the RI have been put in place for the database? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Data Strategy
What do you assembled guru's do about data filtering? My situation is that, having developed an application which accumulates trading data, my users are getting boggled by the amount of information so want to filter it in various ways, for example by financial year. However, there are various such filters that might be applied, either individually or in combinations. The system is built with Codebook, so data is all accessed through views. It seems a little ott to write the views so that they all have system wide filters in them, or is that the way you'd do it? Or some other way? Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
Yes I follow a more C/S apprach where your only getting the data your looking for instead of all of the data and pick what you need. Yes, but how do you go about that. To be more specific about an example, someone on the database may have been making payments for several years, but the finance person only needs to see this year. What does the payments view do? Have a filter for this year? Hmmm, talking this out loud it's starting to sound like a daft question. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
To be more specific about an example, someone on the database may have been making payments for several years, but the finance person only needs to see this year. To be more accurate, the finance person usually *wants* to only look at this year, though needs the ability to vary this, of course. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Crozier wrote: Mark, Why not take a look at some OLAP analysis software like ContourCube I'd played around with contourcube, but only very very superficially and quite a while ago now, so I can't claim any knowledge of it at all really. As I said in the reply to Ed (although in slightly different context), this sounds like it takes me away from my pre-made forms, does it? I don't s'pose that's necessarily a problem. However, my user base is *extremely*, e, naive, so it has to be really simple to use. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ed Leafe wrote: You could create dynamic views; H, I wondered about something along those lines. The thing that stopped me is that I need a very large collection of views to drive the forms that I've got, and it's those views that need further filtering, or at least that's what I'd thought so far. I was wondering about an intermediate database, between the app and appViews databases that Codebook uses. The intermediate database would need one view for each codebook view and it would act like a datalens (TM 8-) ) to restrict, or not, the main view. I haven't thought through how feasible that would be though... What's the dynamism of those views? Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
Hi Mike, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike yearwood wrote: Unlike most every other system I've seen, I give the user the ability to construct a where clause. Yup, that sounds more like the direction I'm thinking to go in. But the issue (I think) is that my preset views are a structural necessity, and it's then a case of adding the filtering to those. But how? Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], MB Software Solutions wrote: The data in the grid is a parameterized view, using several filter variables from the choices above the grid. Here's the WHERE clause of my view that enables the filtering : Yup, that's the kind of thing. (Where's that view editor come from? I remember seeing it before but have lost track of it now.) I think my concern comes from the level I'd have to do this at. I'd be practically making public variables to hold the thing together, because the user will want to set up some filters (this year, those traders, these markets), and then a large number of views will need to have those types of parameterised clauses. I'm hoping not to have to do this to so many views, but I can't currently think of another feasible way. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
HIPAA? Doesn't matter I s'pose, just curious. How many views does that mean you have to adjust? Regards Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Cascading triggers
Guess who's getting near to full delivery :-| Rightly, or perhaps wrongly, I've implemented a system of triggers that records every database change in a backup database (I would'a caught Ollie North as well!). The way I've done it is using the insert/update/delete triggers. Whilst this hasn't been a problem directly it seems to preclude all the RI built in to VFP, and now it turns out that Codebook (there's hardly anyone over there so I thought I'd raise it here) relies on this for deletes! So, the question, is there a sensible way of daisy-chaining (damn, spot the ex-hardware engineer) trigger routines? I s'pose I can imagine a way of coding it, but it feels like it would be messy. Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ed Leafe wrote: When users entered their criteria, I would form the WHERE clause dynamically, substitute it for the WHERE 1=0 of the original, and create an on- the-fly view. That sounds a bit more refined. Not entirely sure how y'mean though. Do you mean you used the view tied to the BizObj as the basis for a new one (produced by fiddling with the WHERE clause), and then switched the BizObj to look at this new one? Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
ViewEditor is a great tool offered by Rick Schummer: http://www.whitelightcomputing.com/prodvieweditorpro.htm Ah, thanks. You don't have to use (nor would I recommend) public variables...you can use PRIVATE scoped variables. I mean, because of the scope of the filter it would have to be set very high up. No, not public variables (no no no, did I say that? Not me. Must've been my evil twin), but at least properties of the application object. I don't s'pose it's really a problem, because it is appropriate use. Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Data Strategy
Hiya, I don't use views anymore - they seem so outdated and limited, Hehehe! Now you're talkin' my kinda language 8-) So what do you do? however, something like this may help you. http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~ViewParameters~VFP Yup, that effectively looks like a refinement of Ed's strategy above, whereby I wouldn't need to fiddle with the SQL. The view's are dynamic without having to fiddle with them. Cool, thanx. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9-Icon
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sytze de Boer wrote: Hi foxers I have a reasonably old application in VFP6 which the client has asked me to update. Amongst other things, I want to now ADD an icon to all the FORMS. Is it necessary to modify every form to do this or can I specify this in the FPW (or some other method) Hey, that's what OO is for (well, kinda sorta). Or should I guess from that that the forms aren't classes? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9-CRM
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], My only suggestion for offline scenarios would be to use GUIDs as your keys instead of integers to ensure uniqueness. That should allow you to see what you have different from another computer's data. I'm going for character id's myself, because that lets me control users by giving them a unique (in my case) three char prefix defining the machine to which I just add the character representation of a normal numeric key. Unfortunately it's not finished yet ... 8-( Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: UK Job
There are three or four around at the moment (or there were last week anyway). One in Truro, one in Edinburgh, one in Birmingham, and a coupla others I don't remember. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Object engineering #2
If you follow Ted's and my suggestion of generating a local, flat read-write cursor do batch updates of the underlying tables Seems a shame, doesn't it, that all that clever table buffering is actually completely useless... Ok, not completely, but it would appear not to do the job it's meant for in anything but very simple situations. Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Object engineering #2
Don't forget that you can use WITH BUFFERING in your SQL now to reflect the buffered changes! VFP9? I haven't converted any of my applications to it yet. 8-( ... a definite gotcha in this case. Pardon? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Object engineering #2
Hi both, Yes, I'm still here reading. I hadn't particularly thought of it as an issue impacting on the end user's ability (right?) to design the ui, I thought it was me doing that not them. It was more about the linked data issue and therefore about designing so that cancelling an editing session really cancels all the changes made in that session. Seems to me the views here cause the problem (though being a good idea from another perspective of course), how do different views of similar data communicate, particularly when they're buffered, without changing the underlying data store? Yes, it makes for a messy ui implementation, and that was why I started wondering about it, on the basis that often a design becoming messy is a sign that it's going the wrong way. Unless of course, it's just real life being messy, as usual. More of the problem seems to (me to) be that SQL doesn't work on buffered or local (to the data environment) data, but the tables on disk, so if I've got a clutch of rows to be added as a result of a users click I either can't do that, or I have to compromise the local, buffered, data, and save data to a real file. Sounds like picking it apart into separate screens *is* the way to go, because that gives at least some indication of why some data has been committed and other data hasn't. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Object engineering #2
Further to that conversation, or perhaps further to my private further thoughts about it, how d'you update linked data? For example, I have a subscriptions table, which records subscriptions (cryptic I know), and a payments table, which records payments of all types. My trader screen has tabs for the different types of data, and there's one for subscriptions, and another for all payments. If I check the box in the grid for a particular subscription, it ought to immediately show up as checked on the payments page. I *was* doing this by updating the underlying data (saving the view for this grid, and refreshing the one for the other grid). But that has to be wrong, doesn't it? If only because it doesn't give me the ability to (easily) roll back all my edits. If I just update the screen (using the screen objects to locate and update the view[s]), then not only could I back out without making the change, but I'm keeping my layers separate, rather than tying them inextricably together as my previous strategy was doing. And then followed through even more rigorously, doesn't this mean I *have* to have all my linked data on one screen rather than opening separate screens/forms to update bits of linked data? Or is just that my medication is wearing off? Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Toner waste
Michael: I have a laser printer that fills up a plastic bin with waste toner. The printer stops and will not print when the bucket is full. The instructions say to dispose of the bucket in the same manner your client mentioned. As opposed to the Cannon S520 (I think), which just stops and the whole thing has to be disposed of 8-( Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The Top 10 Dead or Dying Computer Skills
instead I did one using ADA... a really practical skill set that turned out to be (not). Isn't that still going? I thought I say it mentioned in an ad for a contract (admittedly defense) just recently. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Printing on envelopes from VFP app
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], MB Software Solutions wrote: Sounds easiest to devise a VFP Label Report and do that but thought I'd poll the list. That's certainly what I've done. Very easy, not hard at all. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Spam king arrested
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Man-wai Chang wrote: I guess the rest of the world would be watching the consequences of the newly passed laws. :) Probably not holding it's breath though... Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Man-wai Chang wrote: Until there are standard tools, you can't compare the IT industry with medicine And therein lies the rub. Who's standards? Let's have one standard view of the world that everyone can (be forced to) agree with. It's bad enough in medicine where the mainstream are trying to squeeze out things they don't agree with. But in a virtual environment where just ab out everything is fluid, who decides what is standard? The biggest players would, of course. I'm sure we can trust them to look after us... And how much is that going to stifle innovation? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] MySQL4 and MySQL5 residing on same machine
When using MySQL for website work a powerful, though unfortunate, reason for keeping 4 is that many hosts haven't updated their setups, and hence one may be forced to use 4. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] I love contracting!
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Virgil Bierschwale wrote: You guys need to remember that the reason foxbase, foxplus, foxpro, vfp, etc. took off so dramatically is that it gave the engineers (NOT IT People) the ability to develop solutions that the IT departments weren't or couldn't deliver. Yes indeed. And it would seem that the current climate is to try to put that particularly back in the box, d'you think? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] I love contracting!
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Madigan wrote: Am I the only one that gets frustrated when they do the project incorrectly? No, you're not the only one. But I've found that that is usually the reason why my contracts don't get extended. I start caring about the project succeeding and suddenly want to stop doing the cr*p that I've been told to add/change/remove and start telling them how it should be done right, and suddenly they don't like me so much any more... Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Need a Math Wiz
Last time I looked there was a whole load of stuff at the end of the MySQL (4.01 I think) manual about GIS functions. Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Problem Closing DBC
This might be a daft answer, but you don't happen to have the project file open for the application that uses that database would you? 'Cos *that* will hold the dbc open... Daft I know, but I fell for it a couple of times. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Problem Closing DBC
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ted Roche wrote: Burned me, too. If you go to the data tab and highlight the database, one of the buttons in the Project Manager changes to Close that lets you close the project. Ahah! I hadn't noticed that. Thanx! Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Problem Closing DBC
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeff Johnson wrote: Mark: This procedure runs in an exe and there is no project open. I don't include dbcs tables in my projects. I thought that was probably the case, but you didn't explicitly say so. Sometimes the silliest things are helpful... :-s Regards Mark ___ Post Messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Office Automation
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Weller wrote: They already have for word processing, etc but OO automation is another thing entirely! What other thing is it? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Office Automation
Hopefully you'll be suggesting they upgrade to OpenOffice??? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
computer professionals. Or imagine the converse: that doctors made their recommendations not on the best interests of the patient, but on what would generate the most revenue for the doctor himself ?? You don't think this is happening already? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
petty # pretty...unfortunately... It does too often for my liking... Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] MySQL List
Ummm alt.comp.databases.mysql (I think) recently started up, but I changed isp so in fact I've not been seeing it to be able to tell whether it's any good or not. *Obviously* couldn't be as good as stuff that Ed's set up... ;-) Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] -- Hell yes to virtualization!
Boy I don't understand this at all. You say that we should punish a company for making a living from the goods that their employees make ? No, what's being said (in my understanding of it anyway) is that a company who thinks their revenue stream is more important than their customers needs, and in fact try to use the law to restrict their customers from doing things that they might reasonably want to do, reasonably except that it might reduce said company's revenue, should be brought to it's senses, as quickly as possible. Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] -- Headaches May Remain In Microsoft Vista Land
Yep. It's hard to go against MS. Very good for the soul though... [;-) But I'd strongly advise that at the very least you get things switched over to Open Office. Yup, there is that now you mention it. 'Twould be a very good idea. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] -- Headaches May Remain In Microsoft Vista Land
But we are a small segment (tech-savvy folks)the zillions out there just take (and stay) with whatever is loaded onto their PC when they buy themand M$ knows that. Until Linux comes pre-loaded on the big players PCs by default, M$ will always rule the day, imo. Agreed. I'm not trying to change the world (at least, not in this aspect), just wanting not to be completely out on a limb. Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Python - Thinking Differently
And a very dangerous shift it is too. Having got things going so the average man at the desk has some say in his computing, the big companies have worked out it's not good for their income and are trying to kill it. Very bad for individual freedom imo. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Firefox addon for search engines
Ted Roche wrote: On 8/26/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a nifty add-on for Firefox that allows you to manipulate the engines in the Search Engine drop-down in the Firefox toolbar. There's a zillion other nifty add-ons. I'm a big fan of NoScript and AdBlocker. What other add-ons/plug-ins are people using? StubleUpon, Pluck, TinyURLCreator and forecastfox Session Saver Mark Stanton ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
