Re: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 25 May 2007 3:26 pm, Derek Kalweit wrote:
   Sh!t like that makes me just want to vote anti-incumbent every time.
  
   But still for one of the 2 major parties, I'm sure. And so the
   pendulum swings-- left then right, left then right. Too bad we can't
   just vote for someone in the middle...
 
  Right...this 2 party system sucks.  I don't even know why the other
  parties try...they have no chance.  Until the 2-party-only stronghold is
  broken, it'll be SOSDD.

 That's the same opinion I held for a long time. But you can't break
 the 2 party system if you keep playing their game. Vote the 3rd
 party-- not because they can win, but rather to try to help gain
 momentum to break that 2 party system. Personally, I registered as a
 Libertarian when I recently moved-- to stand up and officially be
 counted, and not just be 'independent' or vote libertarian

Hi Derek!

Oh yeah, right. The libs are not corrupt. Let them win some little office 
somewhere, they will be corrupt.
-- 
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RE: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-26 Thread Michael Madigan
Who are we fighting in Iraq?  Terrorists, not the
Iraqi Army.

If we surrender in Iraq like the Democrats want us to
do, they'll set up more terrorist training camps
there.


--- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Madigan,
 
  And if you don't like paying for the Iraq War at
 300
  Billion, would you prefer paying for another 9/11
 with
  1,000,000 people out-of work and a stock market
 crash?
 
 What does that have to do with 9/11? There were no
 Iraqi's involved in 9/11.
 
 Kristyne McDaniel
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-25 Thread Ted Roche
On 5/25/07, MB Software Solutions General Account

 Yes, but were they MADE by the dentist?  I only buy clothes made by my
 fellow US brothers and sisters.  (yeah rightgood luck finding them
 on the store shelves...you'll have to go naked instead!)

MB: If the stores that you patronize don't sell what you want, why do
you give them your money? That's why they keep selling what you don't
want. A quick Google for the message subject brought lots of promising
hits. Why not patronize them instead?

In solidarity,

Ted Roche
UAW Local 1981, AFL-CIO
Be the change you want.


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Re: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-25 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ted Roche wrote:
 On 5/25/07, MB Software Solutions General Account

   
 Yes, but were they MADE by the dentist?  I only buy clothes made by my
 fellow US brothers and sisters.  (yeah rightgood luck finding them
 on the store shelves...you'll have to go naked instead!)
 

 MB: If the stores that you patronize don't sell what you want, why do
 you give them your money? That's why they keep selling what you don't
 want. A quick Google for the message subject brought lots of promising
 hits. Why not patronize them instead?

 In solidarity,

 Ted Roche
 UAW Local 1981, AFL-CIO
 Be the change you want.
   

Damn, that Google is AGAIN your best (search) friend!  I hear ya, 
brother.  I'll bookmark that and act accordingly.  I saw some figure 
(perhaps in Yahoo News) today that said the U.S. has spent $300 BILLION 
on the Iraq war already.  What a f*cking riot.  Think how many great 
things could have been done here at home (U.S.) with that money.  And 
before you all take me out of context, simply change that to read money 
from your country going towards this war and how it could have been 
better used on YOUR country's infrastructure. g



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Re: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-25 Thread Michael Madigan
This was an emergency appropriation.  This money would
have never been spent on anything in the US, nor would
it have been in your pocket since taxes haven't been
raised to pay for it.

Wars and natural disasters are things that can't be
planned for, yet must be paid for.

And if you don't like paying for the Iraq War at 300
Billion, would you prefer paying for another 9/11 with
1,000,000 people out-of work and a stock market crash?

Perhaps you don't remember sitting home watching the
TV for weeks after the World Trade Center attack,
wondering when the next attack would occur? 

Perhaps you don't remember why we went into Iraq to
begin with?

We didn't choose between roads and bridges and
going to war for the fun of it.  We went to war
because we believed Saddam had nuclear, biological and
chemical weapons and was going to give them to
terrorists.  

72 senators believed that too.

20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.




 
 Damn, that Google is AGAIN your best (search)
 friend!  I hear ya, 
 brother.  I'll bookmark that and act accordingly.  I
 saw some figure 
 (perhaps in Yahoo News) today that said the U.S. has
 spent $300 BILLION 
 on the Iraq war already.  What a f*cking riot. 
 Think how many great 
 things could have been done here at home (U.S.) with
 that money.  And 
 before you all take me out of context, simply change
 that to read money 
 from your country going towards this war and how it
 could have been 
 better used on YOUR country's infrastructure. g
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-25 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Michael Madigan wrote:
 This was an emergency appropriation.  This money would
 have never been spent on anything in the US, nor would
 it have been in your pocket since taxes haven't been
 raised to pay for it.

 Wars and natural disasters are things that can't be
 planned for, yet must be paid for.

 And if you don't like paying for the Iraq War at 300
 Billion, would you prefer paying for another 9/11 with
 1,000,000 people out-of work and a stock market crash?

 Perhaps you don't remember sitting home watching the
 TV for weeks after the World Trade Center attack,
 wondering when the next attack would occur? 

 Perhaps you don't remember why we went into Iraq to
 begin with?

 We didn't choose between roads and bridges and
 going to war for the fun of it.  We went to war
 because we believed Saddam had nuclear, biological and
 chemical weapons and was going to give them to
 terrorists.  

 72 senators believed that too.

 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.
   

Touche!  I'm exhausted today (only 3 hrs sleep last night) so yes, I 
probably forgot or wasn't 100% sharp when I replied.  STILL, I cannot 
believe that we simply GAVE AWAY that money.  It should have been a 
LOAN, not a GRANT.  C'mon MM, even you can't defend us giving them all 
that money when they're sitting on the 2nd largest oil reserve in the 
world (or am I wrong about that??)???!!!?


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Re: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-25 Thread Michael Madigan
3 hours?  Don't get in a car and drive.

I agree.  We should be taking their oil until it's
paid for.


 Touche!  I'm exhausted today (only 3 hrs sleep last
 night) so yes, I 
 probably forgot or wasn't 100% sharp when I replied.
  STILL, I cannot 
 believe that we simply GAVE AWAY that money.  It
 should have been a 
 LOAN, not a GRANT.  C'mon MM, even you can't defend
 us giving them all 
 that money when they're sitting on the 2nd largest
 oil reserve in the 
 world (or am I wrong about that??)???!!!?
 
 
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Re: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-25 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Michael Madigan wrote:
 Yep.

 I think a 2 senate terms and 4 congressional terms
 should be it.
   

Now don't get me wrong...I don't want it to be like Israel.  From what I 
see, those people are always voting no confidence in the leadership 
almost annually.


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Re: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-25 Thread Michael Madigan
The have a parliamentary style of governent, though.


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 Michael Madigan wrote:
  Yep.
 
  I think a 2 senate terms and 4 congressional terms
  should be it.

 
 Now don't get me wrong...I don't want it to be like
 Israel.  From what I 
 see, those people are always voting no confidence
 in the leadership 
 almost annually.
 
 
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Re: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-25 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Derek Kalweit wrote:
 Sh!t like that makes me just want to vote anti-incumbent every time.
 

 But still for one of the 2 major parties, I'm sure. And so the
 pendulum swings-- left then right, left then right. Too bad we can't
 just vote for someone in the middle...


   
Right...this 2 party system sucks.  I don't even know why the other 
parties try...they have no chance.  Until the 2-party-only stronghold is 
broken, it'll be SOSDD.


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Re: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-25 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 25 May 2007 3:02 pm, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Michael Madigan wrote:
  Yep.
 
  I think a 2 senate terms and 4 congressional terms
  should be it.

 Now don't get me wrong...I don't want it to be like Israel.  From what I
 see, those people are always voting no confidence in the leadership
 almost annually.

Hi Michael!

So you have two Jews, you have three opinions.
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Re: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-25 Thread Derek Kalweit
  Sh!t like that makes me just want to vote anti-incumbent every time.

  But still for one of the 2 major parties, I'm sure. And so the
  pendulum swings-- left then right, left then right. Too bad we can't
  just vote for someone in the middle...

 Right...this 2 party system sucks.  I don't even know why the other
 parties try...they have no chance.  Until the 2-party-only stronghold is
 broken, it'll be SOSDD.

That's the same opinion I held for a long time. But you can't break
the 2 party system if you keep playing their game. Vote the 3rd
party-- not because they can win, but rather to try to help gain
momentum to break that 2 party system. Personally, I registered as a
Libertarian when I recently moved-- to stand up and officially be
counted, and not just be 'independent' or vote libertarian but be
registered with one of the two corrupted primary parties.


-- 
Derek


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Re: [OT] US Union-made clothes

2007-05-25 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Michael Madigan wrote:
 3 hours?  Don't get in a car and drive.

 I agree.  We should be taking their oil until it's
 paid for.
   
I know you're a Bush man, but that deal reeks of a political favor of a 
bush (read:  bullshit) type.

Sh!t like that makes me just want to vote anti-incumbent every time.  
We've got term limits for the Prez--we should have them for the rest of 
those bozos.


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