Re: Still want to use SourceSafe?

2007-02-18 Thread Paul Hill
On 2/17/07, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/17/07, Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Something that really annoys me about SourceSafe:
 

 Lots of things annoy me about SourceSafe. That's why I wrote the book,
 did a dozen presentations, and wrote several white papers.

  I made a small EXE for comparing 2 DBFs.  All it does is opens the 2
  files, LISTs them to 2 text files and runs Windiff.

 It's not clear to me what this has to do with SourceSafe. Are you
 talking about Windiff the commercial product or the diffing functions
 of SourceSafe?

Windiff is external.  It's the one that came with Visual Studio 6 IIRC
but you can download it for free here:
http://www.grigsoft.com/download-windiff.htm

  Works great.  I
  can view the history of a DBF and quickly see what has changed between
  versions.

 So, you're checking in text versions of DBFs into SourceSafe?

No, binaries.  These are system files that rarely change.

  However this works for *.DBF but not *.dbf! (or vice-versa, depending
  what I put in the config).  I can't create 2 file associations because
  the config won't allow duplicates.

 I'm not sure what you're doing with file associations? Which config
 file? Sounds like a problem with case-sensitive processing on a
 case-insensitive OS, a real Windows bugaboo.

In VSS you can tell it what viewer  diff program to use for different
filetypes.
e.g. for *.DBF the viewer is vfp9.exe

However, VSS is case sensative over the extensions!  So for *.dbf it won't work!

-- 
Paul


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Re: Still want to use SourceSafe?

2007-02-18 Thread Garrett Fitzgerald
On 2/18/07, Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It's not clear to me what this has to do with SourceSafe. Are you
  talking about Windiff the commercial product or the diffing functions
  of SourceSafe?

 Windiff is external.  It's the one that came with Visual Studio 6 IIRC
 but you can download it for free here:
 http://www.grigsoft.com/download-windiff.htm


I'm partial to ExamDiff myself --
http://www.prestosoft.com/ps.asp?page=edp_examdiff

Lately, though, I've just needed the diff functionality that comes with
TortoiseSVN, the Subversion client you can download from
http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ (as long as we're on the subject of Source
Control :-) ).


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Re: Still want to use SourceSafe?

2007-02-17 Thread Paul Hill
On 2/16/07, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/16/07, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.highprogrammer.com/alan/windev/sourcesafe.html
  --

 Old post. I understand Team Studio has *finally* addressed some of
 these issues, and that MSFT is forcing their internal developers to
 eat their own dog food, unlike the mistreatment they gave SourceSafe.
 VSS was a decent little system, (low resource demands, UNIX/Mac/DOS)
 with some darn clever design, but never fostered at MS they way they
 did with VFP.

Something that really annoys me about SourceSafe:

I made a small EXE for comparing 2 DBFs.  All it does is opens the 2
files, LISTs them to 2 text files and runs Windiff.  Works great.  I
can view the history of a DBF and quickly see what has changed between
versions.

However this works for *.DBF but not *.dbf! (or vice-versa, depending
what I put in the config).  I can't create 2 file associations because
the config won't allow duplicates.

Arrgh!

-- 
Paul


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Re: Still want to use SourceSafe?

2007-02-17 Thread Ted Roche
On 2/17/07, Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Something that really annoys me about SourceSafe:


Lots of things annoy me about SourceSafe. That's why I wrote the book,
did a dozen presentations, and wrote several white papers.

 I made a small EXE for comparing 2 DBFs.  All it does is opens the 2
 files, LISTs them to 2 text files and runs Windiff.

It's not clear to me what this has to do with SourceSafe. Are you
talking about Windiff the commercial product or the diffing functions
of SourceSafe?

 Works great.  I
 can view the history of a DBF and quickly see what has changed between
 versions.

So, you're checking in text versions of DBFs into SourceSafe?

That's the technique the FoxPro integration uses for versioning SCX,
VCX, MNX, etc files.

 However this works for *.DBF but not *.dbf! (or vice-versa, depending
 what I put in the config).  I can't create 2 file associations because
 the config won't allow duplicates.

I'm not sure what you're doing with file associations? Which config
file? Sounds like a problem with case-sensitive processing on a
case-insensitive OS, a real Windows bugaboo.

-- 
Ted Roche
Ted Roche  Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com


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Re: Still want to use SourceSafe?

2007-02-16 Thread Ted Roche
On 2/16/07, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.highprogrammer.com/alan/windev/sourcesafe.html
 --

Old post. I understand Team Studio has *finally* addressed some of
these issues, and that MSFT is forcing their internal developers to
eat their own dog food, unlike the mistreatment they gave SourceSafe.
VSS was a decent little system, (low resource demands, UNIX/Mac/DOS)
with some darn clever design, but never fostered at MS they way they
did with VFP.

Burning the barn after the horses got out.

Subversion rocks!

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Ted Roche  Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com


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