Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging

2012-06-21 Thread Slau Halatyn
Vestiges of the analog world have creeped into the digital world in many ways, 
of course. The playhead is a great example. Even since the days of compact 
discs, there have been no playheads, per se, but we think of the ole playback 
head of an analog tape machine as being the point at which sound is converted 
from magnetic flux to a speaker cone moving the air. Since there is no analog 
equivalent in the DAW, there is only a point in a timeline which is being 
translated at any given point. Normally, this insertion point travels from left 
to right across a backdrop of waveforms.

For some people, it's preferable to rock it old school when it comes to the 
visual representation of the waveforms. So, instead of an insertion point 
moving across a waveform, the insertion point stays fixed right in the middle 
of the window while the waveforms move from right to left. Thing is, to be a 
stickler, waveforms on an analog tape technically move from left to right, the 
opposite of what the digital world displays. Anyway, that's just a remnant that 
will probably never change.

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> OK, fair enough.
> 
> Then, what's a play head exactly, in the case of working with a DAW?  I 
> thought the cursor and the play head could... that's a big? key, I know, 
> *could!* be the same, depending on the context.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging
> 
> 
> I think you meant to say "does not," right? Well, the insertion point stays 
> in place unless the transport is engaged.
> 
> I wouldn't necessarily use the term "playhead" because, aside from the option 
> for "stationary playhead" in Pro Tools HD, there's no playhead, per se. It's 
> just an insertion cursor moving along a timeline much like a cursor in a word 
> processor. Just thought I'd mention it, while we're on the subject and the 
> term came up.
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Jun 21, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> OK, so when you split, basically what you're saying is, the play head does 
>> actually move until you tab or option tab, right?
>> 
>> Sorry I didn't get back with ya about this sooner.  We've had an internet 
>> outage all day.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging
>> 
>> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> It depends on which point you split first, the beginning or ending of the 
>> region you wish to nudge. If you first split the beginning of the region and 
>> then the end, naturally, the region you wish to select is before the 
>> insertion point. In that case, use Option-Tab to move back to the previous 
>> region boundary and then use Shift Tab to select the region.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh, ok.  Coolness.  That's definitely a nice thing to know.
>>> 
>>> So if I did it the other way, where I did command e then had to select the 
>>> region, as soon as I hit command+E, would I then want to tab to the next 
>>> region, or actually would the region I want be before my play head where 
>>> I'd want to option tab.  In other words, when I split with command+E, the 
>>> part of the region I split off into its own, is that gonna then be to the 
>>> right of my cursor, or to the left?  Does that make sense what I'm asking?
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, you got it. One other thing you can do that might expedite things in a 
>>> certain way is, if you have a large region, instead of splitting two points 
>>> and then selecting, you can make a selection first and then press Command-r 
>>> to "capture a region." You'll be prompted to name the region but then you 
>>> will have automatically created the region necessary to nudge and it'll 
>>> already be selected.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> 
 Ahh, that does make sense.  So, do i first then have to split, where I 
 want the region to start?
 
 Like say, I go 4 bars into the track, then would I need to just start 
 selecting?  I'd think no, I'd have to first split, as if I don't, it's 
 gonna then nudge the entire recording, so go say, 4 bars, with this 
 example in, then hit command+E to split, then use I guess my tab key to 
 move to the next region, or option+tab to go to the prev, then shift+tab 
 to select it.  Then once selected, I could nudge.
 
 Is my logic on this correct, Slau?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:09 AM
 Subject: Re: 

Re: Mainstream Recording?

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Even? better!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Norman" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Mainstream Recording?


OK,
Instead of putting instructions for Harmony engine private, I'll put a
basic outline on a new thread.

HTH.

On 22/06/2012, Poppa Bear  wrote:

Nice stuff Scott.
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Chesworth" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Mainstream Recording?


This is a really interesting thread!

For anyone that might care to listen, my band tracked this tune
entirely in a spare bedroom. Thanks to the modern miracles of DI and
MIDI triggering, the most noisy member was our vocalist. So far, we're
two albums down the line and haven't touched what most people would
consider to be a proper studio yet during tracking and production
stages.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI8Xrup5akw

Cheers
Scott


On 6/21/12, Chris Norman  wrote:

Please, when you read this, note, I'm not saying anyone who's
responded to these messages is wrong, there's some great people who
know infinitely more about what they're talking about than I, but I'd
like to give the view of a hobbiest.

I have a studio in my spare bedroom, it's not professional in any way,
shape or form. I'm sure if anyone who turned up and knew their stuff,
they'd probably leave on a stretcher from laughing so hard, but, the
point is, it works for me.

I have spent a fair amount of money over the last couple of years
getting the stuff I wanted. I do not know what's good or bad, but I
followed the suggestions of people on this list, and others, and got
stuff which was affordable, and good.

With this stuff, I can get the sounds I want and rely upon. They might
not be radio quality, or up to the standard of Lianne Rhymes, or
anyone like that, but they work for me.

Judging by the stuff you've written Christopher, you're in a similar
situation to myself, you're just recording for fun, and you probably
don't want to do it seriously. Even if you do, I see no reason this
stuff, with some modifications, could get you a fairly decent recorded
sound, which you could sell to people.

Below is my gear list, as far as I know it. I'm actually not sure what
my monitors are, but they're MAudio somethings, and they were were
some £300 for the pair.

I'm using Pro Tools 10, running on a MacBook Pro. It's not the latest
one, but the one before that I think. I (stupidly), brought it about a
week before the new MacBook Pro with the Thunderbalt ports came out.
Off course I use a full sized apple keyboard, and, when I've saved up
all the money for my iMac, I'll be using the Magic Trackpad too, so I
can sit of my sofa to record, instead of cluttering up space I don't
have, with another chair.

I'm using a Euphonix Artist Mix control surface, and an MBox Pro
(which I find quite unstable with Pro Tools and Mac OS X 10.7.whatever
it is).

The monitors, as I said, are MAudio something or others, not really a
clue.

I have 2 Rode NT-1A's, which I use for tracking both acoustic guitar,
and vocals.

For the rare times when I record amped electric guitars, I borrow a
pair of SM57's, which I went halves on with a friend of mine. For the
times I'm feeling lazy, and actually, I still love the sound, I use a
Vox something or other preamp, which my girlfriend and another friend
of mine brought me for my birthday.

My main guitar is a Faith acoustic, again, not sure of the model, but
it was supposed to sell for £512 or so, but I got it for about £400,
because the shop I got it from (Noise Works in Coventry, England), had
an offer on. My electric guitar is a Fender Blacktop, and I have a
Crafter (I think), fretted acoustic bass, and a Spector Electric bass,
which I've had for years, and never changed the strings on, so it's
got a lovely basy sound.

I am using an Axium 49 as my MIDI controler, but for one song, for
which I tracked the MIDI while on the road somewhere, I used an Akai
LPK24 or something, basically, a keyboard with 2 octave, bus powered.

I have no soundproofing of any kind, apart from a bed setty in my
studio (if that counts), and the house is fairly old, so it's got nice
thick walls.

I've also used an MAudio Mobile Pre, which I use to record my band
mate, who plays a Clavia NordStage 88, to save us the ball ache of
carrying the damn thing up the stairs.

I have absolutely no idea what my headphones are, but I brought them
from a PX in Germany, when I was visiting my uncle for like 130 EUR.

I could probably never achieve a totally dry sound in this room, but
luckily, I've never felt the need too. If I did want too however, I
could probably hang a quilt from the wall some how or something.

It is a very basic setup, probably costing somewhere in the region of
5 or 6 grand in total, but, as I said, this stuff has been collected
over a few years. The desc, the audio interface, my control surface
and monitors were all brought fairly recently, but the guitars I've
collected since I started playing

Re: Mainstream Recording?

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Norman
OK,
Instead of putting instructions for Harmony engine private, I'll put a
basic outline on a new thread.

HTH.

On 22/06/2012, Poppa Bear  wrote:
> Nice stuff Scott.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Chesworth" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Mainstream Recording?
>
>
> This is a really interesting thread!
>
> For anyone that might care to listen, my band tracked this tune
> entirely in a spare bedroom. Thanks to the modern miracles of DI and
> MIDI triggering, the most noisy member was our vocalist. So far, we're
> two albums down the line and haven't touched what most people would
> consider to be a proper studio yet during tracking and production
> stages.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI8Xrup5akw
>
> Cheers
> Scott
>
>
> On 6/21/12, Chris Norman  wrote:
>> Please, when you read this, note, I'm not saying anyone who's
>> responded to these messages is wrong, there's some great people who
>> know infinitely more about what they're talking about than I, but I'd
>> like to give the view of a hobbiest.
>>
>> I have a studio in my spare bedroom, it's not professional in any way,
>> shape or form. I'm sure if anyone who turned up and knew their stuff,
>> they'd probably leave on a stretcher from laughing so hard, but, the
>> point is, it works for me.
>>
>> I have spent a fair amount of money over the last couple of years
>> getting the stuff I wanted. I do not know what's good or bad, but I
>> followed the suggestions of people on this list, and others, and got
>> stuff which was affordable, and good.
>>
>> With this stuff, I can get the sounds I want and rely upon. They might
>> not be radio quality, or up to the standard of Lianne Rhymes, or
>> anyone like that, but they work for me.
>>
>> Judging by the stuff you've written Christopher, you're in a similar
>> situation to myself, you're just recording for fun, and you probably
>> don't want to do it seriously. Even if you do, I see no reason this
>> stuff, with some modifications, could get you a fairly decent recorded
>> sound, which you could sell to people.
>>
>> Below is my gear list, as far as I know it. I'm actually not sure what
>> my monitors are, but they're MAudio somethings, and they were were
>> some £300 for the pair.
>>
>> I'm using Pro Tools 10, running on a MacBook Pro. It's not the latest
>> one, but the one before that I think. I (stupidly), brought it about a
>> week before the new MacBook Pro with the Thunderbalt ports came out.
>> Off course I use a full sized apple keyboard, and, when I've saved up
>> all the money for my iMac, I'll be using the Magic Trackpad too, so I
>> can sit of my sofa to record, instead of cluttering up space I don't
>> have, with another chair.
>>
>> I'm using a Euphonix Artist Mix control surface, and an MBox Pro
>> (which I find quite unstable with Pro Tools and Mac OS X 10.7.whatever
>> it is).
>>
>> The monitors, as I said, are MAudio something or others, not really a
>> clue.
>>
>> I have 2 Rode NT-1A's, which I use for tracking both acoustic guitar,
>> and vocals.
>>
>> For the rare times when I record amped electric guitars, I borrow a
>> pair of SM57's, which I went halves on with a friend of mine. For the
>> times I'm feeling lazy, and actually, I still love the sound, I use a
>> Vox something or other preamp, which my girlfriend and another friend
>> of mine brought me for my birthday.
>>
>> My main guitar is a Faith acoustic, again, not sure of the model, but
>> it was supposed to sell for £512 or so, but I got it for about £400,
>> because the shop I got it from (Noise Works in Coventry, England), had
>> an offer on. My electric guitar is a Fender Blacktop, and I have a
>> Crafter (I think), fretted acoustic bass, and a Spector Electric bass,
>> which I've had for years, and never changed the strings on, so it's
>> got a lovely basy sound.
>>
>> I am using an Axium 49 as my MIDI controler, but for one song, for
>> which I tracked the MIDI while on the road somewhere, I used an Akai
>> LPK24 or something, basically, a keyboard with 2 octave, bus powered.
>>
>> I have no soundproofing of any kind, apart from a bed setty in my
>> studio (if that counts), and the house is fairly old, so it's got nice
>> thick walls.
>>
>> I've also used an MAudio Mobile Pre, which I use to record my band
>> mate, who plays a Clavia NordStage 88, to save us the ball ache of
>> carrying the damn thing up the stairs.
>>
>> I have absolutely no idea what my headphones are, but I brought them
>> from a PX in Germany, when I was visiting my uncle for like 130 EUR.
>>
>> I could probably never achieve a totally dry sound in this room, but
>> luckily, I've never felt the need too. If I did want too however, I
>> could probably hang a quilt from the wall some how or something.
>>
>> It is a very basic setup, probably costing somewhere in the region of
>> 5 or 6 grand in total, but, as I said, this stuff has been collected
>> over a few years. The desc, the audio interface, my cont

Re: Mainstream Recording?

2012-06-21 Thread Poppa Bear

Nice stuff Scott.
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Chesworth" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Mainstream Recording?


This is a really interesting thread!

For anyone that might care to listen, my band tracked this tune
entirely in a spare bedroom. Thanks to the modern miracles of DI and
MIDI triggering, the most noisy member was our vocalist. So far, we're
two albums down the line and haven't touched what most people would
consider to be a proper studio yet during tracking and production
stages.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI8Xrup5akw

Cheers
Scott


On 6/21/12, Chris Norman  wrote:

Please, when you read this, note, I'm not saying anyone who's
responded to these messages is wrong, there's some great people who
know infinitely more about what they're talking about than I, but I'd
like to give the view of a hobbiest.

I have a studio in my spare bedroom, it's not professional in any way,
shape or form. I'm sure if anyone who turned up and knew their stuff,
they'd probably leave on a stretcher from laughing so hard, but, the
point is, it works for me.

I have spent a fair amount of money over the last couple of years
getting the stuff I wanted. I do not know what's good or bad, but I
followed the suggestions of people on this list, and others, and got
stuff which was affordable, and good.

With this stuff, I can get the sounds I want and rely upon. They might
not be radio quality, or up to the standard of Lianne Rhymes, or
anyone like that, but they work for me.

Judging by the stuff you've written Christopher, you're in a similar
situation to myself, you're just recording for fun, and you probably
don't want to do it seriously. Even if you do, I see no reason this
stuff, with some modifications, could get you a fairly decent recorded
sound, which you could sell to people.

Below is my gear list, as far as I know it. I'm actually not sure what
my monitors are, but they're MAudio somethings, and they were were
some £300 for the pair.

I'm using Pro Tools 10, running on a MacBook Pro. It's not the latest
one, but the one before that I think. I (stupidly), brought it about a
week before the new MacBook Pro with the Thunderbalt ports came out.
Off course I use a full sized apple keyboard, and, when I've saved up
all the money for my iMac, I'll be using the Magic Trackpad too, so I
can sit of my sofa to record, instead of cluttering up space I don't
have, with another chair.

I'm using a Euphonix Artist Mix control surface, and an MBox Pro
(which I find quite unstable with Pro Tools and Mac OS X 10.7.whatever
it is).

The monitors, as I said, are MAudio something or others, not really a 
clue.


I have 2 Rode NT-1A's, which I use for tracking both acoustic guitar,
and vocals.

For the rare times when I record amped electric guitars, I borrow a
pair of SM57's, which I went halves on with a friend of mine. For the
times I'm feeling lazy, and actually, I still love the sound, I use a
Vox something or other preamp, which my girlfriend and another friend
of mine brought me for my birthday.

My main guitar is a Faith acoustic, again, not sure of the model, but
it was supposed to sell for £512 or so, but I got it for about £400,
because the shop I got it from (Noise Works in Coventry, England), had
an offer on. My electric guitar is a Fender Blacktop, and I have a
Crafter (I think), fretted acoustic bass, and a Spector Electric bass,
which I've had for years, and never changed the strings on, so it's
got a lovely basy sound.

I am using an Axium 49 as my MIDI controler, but for one song, for
which I tracked the MIDI while on the road somewhere, I used an Akai
LPK24 or something, basically, a keyboard with 2 octave, bus powered.

I have no soundproofing of any kind, apart from a bed setty in my
studio (if that counts), and the house is fairly old, so it's got nice
thick walls.

I've also used an MAudio Mobile Pre, which I use to record my band
mate, who plays a Clavia NordStage 88, to save us the ball ache of
carrying the damn thing up the stairs.

I have absolutely no idea what my headphones are, but I brought them
from a PX in Germany, when I was visiting my uncle for like 130 EUR.

I could probably never achieve a totally dry sound in this room, but
luckily, I've never felt the need too. If I did want too however, I
could probably hang a quilt from the wall some how or something.

It is a very basic setup, probably costing somewhere in the region of
5 or 6 grand in total, but, as I said, this stuff has been collected
over a few years. The desc, the audio interface, my control surface
and monitors were all brought fairly recently, but the guitars I've
collected since I started playing when I was 6.

If you like, I can send you some of the stuff I've done, so you guys
who know you're doing can have a laugh at it, but my aim isn't to
become the next big star, my aim is to make and play music until the
day I die, and love every minute of it. If I make money off it in
return, more t

Re: Pro Tools 10

2012-06-21 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, As I bought a boxed version of pro tools 10 and did register with 
Avid they probably did not create me an account right?  If not how can I 
get an Avid account and get access to the latest DVD?  Is 10.2 totally 
unusable or once I delete those plugins should I be able to use it ok? 
Nick Gawronski


On 6/21/2012 7:09 PM, HF wrote:

Here it is again.
Guys,

Check your ILok account, it'll tell you exactly what you have a license
for. As for the DVD, just download it yourself. You can get it via your
Avid account.

HF

On 6/21/2012 7:28 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Sorry, your response didn't get included in this message, for some
weird reason.  Please try again.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "HF" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10



On 6/21/2012 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Come again?

I don't think so, as I managed to dig up a p t 9 standard dvd, but
my p t 10 ilok license isn't allowing it to work, so I don't think,
unless you got some different kind a license, that is the case.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Chris Norman"

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10



I think what people are trying to say, is that if you get an iLok with
a license for PT 10 on it, it automatically authorizes PT 9 as well,
at least I know mine's a combined license or something.

HTH.

On 19/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:

no no no, what he's saying is, if you buy PT from somewhere like
Guitar
Center, etc. you'll probably be able to get 10.0, not 10.2, with
an included
ilok that already has the license on it.  This way you'd install
that,
rather than going to the Avid web site which probably only would
give you
10.2.

Chris.

  - Original Message -
  From: Jon Solitro
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10


  So you're saying buy a boxed version from somewhere, but don't
install it
- download 10.0 from Avid and use the iLok I get in the box to
authorize it?



--
Take care,

Chris Norman.





Guys,

Check your ILok account, it'll tell you exactly what you have a
license for. As for the DVD, just download it yourself. You can get
it via your Avid account.

HF










Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

OK, fair enough.

Then, what's a play head exactly, in the case of working with a DAW?  I 
thought the cursor and the play head could... that's a big? key, I know, 
*could!* be the same, depending on the context.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging


I think you meant to say "does not," right? Well, the insertion point stays 
in place unless the transport is engaged.


I wouldn't necessarily use the term "playhead" because, aside from the 
option for "stationary playhead" in Pro Tools HD, there's no playhead, per 
se. It's just an insertion cursor moving along a timeline much like a cursor 
in a word processor. Just thought I'd mention it, while we're on the subject 
and the term came up.


Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, so when you split, basically what you're saying is, the play head does 
actually move until you tab or option tab, right?


Sorry I didn't get back with ya about this sooner.  We've had an internet 
outage all day.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging


Chris,

It depends on which point you split first, the beginning or ending of the 
region you wish to nudge. If you first split the beginning of the region 
and then the end, naturally, the region you wish to select is before the 
insertion point. In that case, use Option-Tab to move back to the previous 
region boundary and then use Shift Tab to select the region.


HTH,

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


Oh, ok.  Coolness.  That's definitely a nice thing to know.

So if I did it the other way, where I did command e then had to select 
the region, as soon as I hit command+E, would I then want to tab to the 
next region, or actually would the region I want be before my play head 
where I'd want to option tab.  In other words, when I split with 
command+E, the part of the region I split off into its own, is that gonna 
then be to the right of my cursor, or to the left?  Does that make sense 
what I'm asking?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging


Yes, you got it. One other thing you can do that might expedite things in 
a certain way is, if you have a large region, instead of splitting two 
points and then selecting, you can make a selection first and then press 
Command-r to "capture a region." You'll be prompted to name the region 
but then you will have automatically created the region necessary to 
nudge and it'll already be selected.


HTH,

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Ahh, that does make sense.  So, do i first then have to split, where I 
want the region to start?


Like say, I go 4 bars into the track, then would I need to just start 
selecting?  I'd think no, I'd have to first split, as if I don't, it's 
gonna then nudge the entire recording, so go say, 4 bars, with this 
example in, then hit command+E to split, then use I guess my tab key to 
move to the next region, or option+tab to go to the prev, then shift+tab 
to select it.  Then once selected, I could nudge.


Is my logic on this correct, Slau?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging


To nudge a region, the region must be selected. Use the plus and minus 
keys on the numeric keypad. Plus moves the region to the right or later 
in the timeline and minus moves it to the left or earlier in the 
timeline. If there's no region selected, using the plus or minus keys 
will simply move the insertion point by the nudge value.


HTH,

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, guys, give me a break, it's early in the morning.  LOL!  I'm trying 
for the life of me to remember how to nudge something left or right in 
a session.  I mean, what's the keystroke, to do it?  I know you gotta 
first select the audio to nudge, then split it with command e to a new 
region. I just don't remember after that what to hit to actually nudge 
it.  Also, I am right about assuming you gotta select what you wanna 
nudge, right? Something doesn't sound right about that logically, as 
why would you select something.  We're not trying to modify a 
selection, we're just wanting it shoved to the right or left a bit from 
a certain point in the session, so my logic says no, you don't need to 
select it, but then another part of me says yeah, you do, though I 
can't justify why.


Can someone give me a hand?  I'm also gonna pull out my second lesson I 
had with Kevin that was recorded, as didn't we cover that briefly, 
kevin? I kind a remember we did on the outer core of things.


Chris.











Re: Mainstream Recording?

2012-06-21 Thread Scott Chesworth
This is a really interesting thread!

For anyone that might care to listen, my band tracked this tune
entirely in a spare bedroom. Thanks to the modern miracles of DI and
MIDI triggering, the most noisy member was our vocalist. So far, we're
two albums down the line and haven't touched what most people would
consider to be a proper studio yet during tracking and production
stages.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI8Xrup5akw

Cheers
Scott


On 6/21/12, Chris Norman  wrote:
> Please, when you read this, note, I'm not saying anyone who's
> responded to these messages is wrong, there's some great people who
> know infinitely more about what they're talking about than I, but I'd
> like to give the view of a hobbiest.
>
> I have a studio in my spare bedroom, it's not professional in any way,
> shape or form. I'm sure if anyone who turned up and knew their stuff,
> they'd probably leave on a stretcher from laughing so hard, but, the
> point is, it works for me.
>
> I have spent a fair amount of money over the last couple of years
> getting the stuff I wanted. I do not know what's good or bad, but I
> followed the suggestions of people on this list, and others, and got
> stuff which was affordable, and good.
>
> With this stuff, I can get the sounds I want and rely upon. They might
> not be radio quality, or up to the standard of Lianne Rhymes, or
> anyone like that, but they work for me.
>
> Judging by the stuff you've written Christopher, you're in a similar
> situation to myself, you're just recording for fun, and you probably
> don't want to do it seriously. Even if you do, I see no reason this
> stuff, with some modifications, could get you a fairly decent recorded
> sound, which you could sell to people.
>
> Below is my gear list, as far as I know it. I'm actually not sure what
> my monitors are, but they're MAudio somethings, and they were were
> some £300 for the pair.
>
> I'm using Pro Tools 10, running on a MacBook Pro. It's not the latest
> one, but the one before that I think. I (stupidly), brought it about a
> week before the new MacBook Pro with the Thunderbalt ports came out.
> Off course I use a full sized apple keyboard, and, when I've saved up
> all the money for my iMac, I'll be using the Magic Trackpad too, so I
> can sit of my sofa to record, instead of cluttering up space I don't
> have, with another chair.
>
> I'm using a Euphonix Artist Mix control surface, and an MBox Pro
> (which I find quite unstable with Pro Tools and Mac OS X 10.7.whatever
> it is).
>
> The monitors, as I said, are MAudio something or others, not really a clue.
>
> I have 2 Rode NT-1A's, which I use for tracking both acoustic guitar,
> and vocals.
>
> For the rare times when I record amped electric guitars, I borrow a
> pair of SM57's, which I went halves on with a friend of mine. For the
> times I'm feeling lazy, and actually, I still love the sound, I use a
> Vox something or other preamp, which my girlfriend and another friend
> of mine brought me for my birthday.
>
> My main guitar is a Faith acoustic, again, not sure of the model, but
> it was supposed to sell for £512 or so, but I got it for about £400,
> because the shop I got it from (Noise Works in Coventry, England), had
> an offer on. My electric guitar is a Fender Blacktop, and I have a
> Crafter (I think), fretted acoustic bass, and a Spector Electric bass,
> which I've had for years, and never changed the strings on, so it's
> got a lovely basy sound.
>
> I am using an Axium 49 as my MIDI controler, but for one song, for
> which I tracked the MIDI while on the road somewhere, I used an Akai
> LPK24 or something, basically, a keyboard with 2 octave, bus powered.
>
> I have no soundproofing of any kind, apart from a bed setty in my
> studio (if that counts), and the house is fairly old, so it's got nice
> thick walls.
>
> I've also used an MAudio Mobile Pre, which I use to record my band
> mate, who plays a Clavia NordStage 88, to save us the ball ache of
> carrying the damn thing up the stairs.
>
> I have absolutely no idea what my headphones are, but I brought them
> from a PX in Germany, when I was visiting my uncle for like 130 EUR.
>
> I could probably never achieve a totally dry sound in this room, but
> luckily, I've never felt the need too. If I did want too however, I
> could probably hang a quilt from the wall some how or something.
>
> It is a very basic setup, probably costing somewhere in the region of
> 5 or 6 grand in total, but, as I said, this stuff has been collected
> over a few years. The desc, the audio interface, my control surface
> and monitors were all brought fairly recently, but the guitars I've
> collected since I started playing when I was 6.
>
> If you like, I can send you some of the stuff I've done, so you guys
> who know you're doing can have a laugh at it, but my aim isn't to
> become the next big star, my aim is to make and play music until the
> day I die, and love every minute of it. If I make money off it in
> return, mo

Re: Mainstream Recording?

2012-06-21 Thread Karen Lewellen

Scott,
oh goodness!
to the best of my knowledge, that trend is not happening here yet.
I am a sound snob, and proud of it smiles, happily using my stereo to play 
hundreds of lps  or real commercial created cds and  not likely ever to 
dump those babies into a computer, 
smiles...far from aesthetic.
Indeed though compared to the poor private enjoyment of the mp3, the 
dreadful blasting of such  limited quality is a far larger shark.

Karen

On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, Scott Chesworth wrote:


Karen, were you knocking how lossy mp3 is as a format, or did I misunderstand?
If so, there really are bigger fish to fry. Dunno if the trend has
spread to Canada yet, but here in London your average Joe/Joanna who
likes his/her music has stopped using headphones to deafen themselves,
now, they walk around sharing their subjective take on what's
brilliant with the rest of the world via the teeny tiny speaker in
their mobile phone instead. Unbelievably, I've seen people who do
sound related stuff all day everyday doing it... needless to say I
died a little bit inside.

Scott


On 6/21/12, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Chris, all.
Two different points here.
Chris to get your answer, research the album in question.  Many artists
are going back to the old fashioned analog way,  Kiss did this for one of
their last albums, and Michael's "crazy in love," did this too.  A room
full of real musicians  mixed with the solid sort of studio gear that
still creates  the real thing.
That being said, yes on pro tools being the industry standard, even for
radio, think national public radio for example.  the first gear I ever saw
computer wise  was a mac running pro tools, and this was in the mid 90's.
I went to school before that, and got my masters so I would now what I
needed to do as a radio professional, and ask for as a singer working in
other people's houses.
When I began freelance journalism work in addition to radio production the
gear became remains and has to be pro tools...although I have a digi 003,
I
am still using the outspoken structure.
which is fine for radio production, I do not mix my music myself...that is
the job of folks like those on this list.

However, at least in Canada, the home studio industry is an arm of
professional industry recording, likely because of how homes are
built here.
You can create a solid production house, well in   the basement of your
house up here, and find professional trade  magazines that focus
entirely on home studio work.
There is nothing wrong with making music for music sake!
but one thing that makes me crazy is that some feel an mp3 file is
real music, it. is. not!
with the right computer the right mixing environment and the write
speakers, you can create professional quality just with pro tools, some
media professionals do it every single day...from the basement smiles.
back to the corner,
Kare

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Nick Gawronski wrote:


Hi, I agree with you totally on all of those points and probably should
have
said that I am not against the home user learning in their home first as
that
is what I did with my windows systems and sound forge and studio recorder
and
some with cakewalk.  I think there is a market for all types even for the

home user who is learning this stuff and think that if you don't have some

type of home setup there is really no easy way to learn at your own speed
and
skill level.  When you record what makes the devices you use unstable and
how
are these things connected to your system?  I use firewire for my digi 003

and one of the extress card slots for the sata drive to get the best
speeds.
What model of mac book pro do you have?  Nick Gawronski

On 6/21/2012 8:24 AM, Chris Norman wrote:

 Please, when you read this, note, I'm not saying anyone who's
 responded to these messages is wrong, there's some great people who
 know infinitely more about what they're talking about than I, but I'd
 like to give the view of a hobbiest.

 I have a studio in my spare bedroom, it's not professional in any way,
 shape or form. I'm sure if anyone who turned up and knew their stuff,
 they'd probably leave on a stretcher from laughing so hard, but, the
 point is, it works for me.

 I have spent a fair amount of money over the last couple of years
 getting the stuff I wanted. I do not know what's good or bad, but I
 followed the suggestions of people on this list, and others, and got
 stuff which was affordable, and good.

 With this stuff, I can get the sounds I want and rely upon. They might
 not be radio quality, or up to the standard of Lianne Rhymes, or
 anyone like that, but they work for me.

 Judging by the stuff you've written Christopher, you're in a similar
 situation to myself, you're just recording for fun, and you probably
 don't want to do it seriously. Even if you do, I see no reason this
 stuff, with some modifications, could get you a fairly decent recorded
 sound, which you could sell to people.

 Below is my gear list, as far as I know it. I'm actually not su

Re: Mainstream Recording?

2012-06-21 Thread Scott Chesworth
Karen, were you knocking how lossy mp3 is as a format, or did I misunderstand?
If so, there really are bigger fish to fry. Dunno if the trend has
spread to Canada yet, but here in London your average Joe/Joanna who
likes his/her music has stopped using headphones to deafen themselves,
now, they walk around sharing their subjective take on what's
brilliant with the rest of the world via the teeny tiny speaker in
their mobile phone instead. Unbelievably, I've seen people who do
sound related stuff all day everyday doing it... needless to say I
died a little bit inside.

Scott


On 6/21/12, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> Hi Chris, all.
> Two different points here.
> Chris to get your answer, research the album in question.  Many artists
> are going back to the old fashioned analog way,  Kiss did this for one of
> their last albums, and Michael's "crazy in love," did this too.  A room
> full of real musicians  mixed with the solid sort of studio gear that
> still creates  the real thing.
> That being said, yes on pro tools being the industry standard, even for
> radio, think national public radio for example.  the first gear I ever saw
> computer wise  was a mac running pro tools, and this was in the mid 90's.
> I went to school before that, and got my masters so I would now what I
> needed to do as a radio professional, and ask for as a singer working in
> other people's houses.
> When I began freelance journalism work in addition to radio production the
> gear became remains and has to be pro tools...although I have a digi 003,
> I
> am still using the outspoken structure.
> which is fine for radio production, I do not mix my music myself...that is
> the job of folks like those on this list.
>
> However, at least in Canada, the home studio industry is an arm of
> professional industry recording, likely because of how homes are
> built here.
> You can create a solid production house, well in   the basement of your
> house up here, and find professional trade  magazines that focus
> entirely on home studio work.
> There is nothing wrong with making music for music sake!
> but one thing that makes me crazy is that some feel an mp3 file is
> real music, it. is. not!
> with the right computer the right mixing environment and the write
> speakers, you can create professional quality just with pro tools, some
> media professionals do it every single day...from the basement smiles.
> back to the corner,
> Kare
>
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>
>> Hi, I agree with you totally on all of those points and probably should
>> have
>> said that I am not against the home user learning in their home first as
>> that
>> is what I did with my windows systems and sound forge and studio recorder
>> and
>> some with cakewalk.  I think there is a market for all types even for the
>>
>> home user who is learning this stuff and think that if you don't have some
>>
>> type of home setup there is really no easy way to learn at your own speed
>> and
>> skill level.  When you record what makes the devices you use unstable and
>> how
>> are these things connected to your system?  I use firewire for my digi 003
>>
>> and one of the extress card slots for the sata drive to get the best
>> speeds.
>> What model of mac book pro do you have?  Nick Gawronski
>>
>> On 6/21/2012 8:24 AM, Chris Norman wrote:
>>>  Please, when you read this, note, I'm not saying anyone who's
>>>  responded to these messages is wrong, there's some great people who
>>>  know infinitely more about what they're talking about than I, but I'd
>>>  like to give the view of a hobbiest.
>>>
>>>  I have a studio in my spare bedroom, it's not professional in any way,
>>>  shape or form. I'm sure if anyone who turned up and knew their stuff,
>>>  they'd probably leave on a stretcher from laughing so hard, but, the
>>>  point is, it works for me.
>>>
>>>  I have spent a fair amount of money over the last couple of years
>>>  getting the stuff I wanted. I do not know what's good or bad, but I
>>>  followed the suggestions of people on this list, and others, and got
>>>  stuff which was affordable, and good.
>>>
>>>  With this stuff, I can get the sounds I want and rely upon. They might
>>>  not be radio quality, or up to the standard of Lianne Rhymes, or
>>>  anyone like that, but they work for me.
>>>
>>>  Judging by the stuff you've written Christopher, you're in a similar
>>>  situation to myself, you're just recording for fun, and you probably
>>>  don't want to do it seriously. Even if you do, I see no reason this
>>>  stuff, with some modifications, could get you a fairly decent recorded
>>>  sound, which you could sell to people.
>>>
>>>  Below is my gear list, as far as I know it. I'm actually not sure what
>>>  my monitors are, but they're MAudio somethings, and they were were
>>>  some £300 for the pair.
>>>
>>>  I'm using Pro Tools 10, running on a MacBook Pro. It's not the latest
>>>  one, but the one before that I think. I (stupidly), brought it about a
>>

Re: Pro Tools 10

2012-06-21 Thread HF

Here it is again.
Guys,

Check your ILok account, it'll tell you exactly what you have a license 
for. As for the DVD, just download it yourself. You can get it via your 
Avid account.


HF

On 6/21/2012 7:28 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Sorry, your response didn't get included in this message, for some 
weird reason.  Please try again.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "HF" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10



On 6/21/2012 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Come again?

I don't think so, as I managed to dig up a p t 9 standard dvd, but 
my p t 10 ilok license isn't allowing it to work, so I don't think, 
unless you got some different kind a license, that is the case.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Chris Norman" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10



I think what people are trying to say, is that if you get an iLok with
a license for PT 10 on it, it automatically authorizes PT 9 as well,
at least I know mine's a combined license or something.

HTH.

On 19/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
no no no, what he's saying is, if you buy PT from somewhere like 
Guitar
Center, etc. you'll probably be able to get 10.0, not 10.2, with 
an included
ilok that already has the license on it.  This way you'd install 
that,
rather than going to the Avid web site which probably only would 
give you

10.2.

Chris.

  - Original Message -
  From: Jon Solitro
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10


  So you're saying buy a boxed version from somewhere, but don't 
install it
- download 10.0 from Avid and use the iLok I get in the box to 
authorize it?



--
Take care,

Chris Norman.





Guys,

Check your ILok account, it'll tell you exactly what you have a 
license for. As for the DVD, just download it yourself. You can get 
it via your Avid account.


HF








Re: Controling Waves plugins

2012-06-21 Thread Poppa Bear
I agree, good verse Chuck.
In His loving grip. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Controling Waves plugins


  Chuck,

  Do you have Skype by chance?

  BTW, beautiful verse you have there in your signature.  I won't go into a 
long rant about that, don't worry, but wow.  Very nice.

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: CHUCK REICHEL 
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Controling Waves plugins


Hi Poppa, 
Heres my contact info again. :)
Talk soon




CHUCK REICHEL
soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
www.SoundPictureRecording.com
954-742-0019
Isaiah 26 : 3
 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because 
he trusteth in thee.


In GOD I Trust


On Jun 21, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:


  I do remember something like that, I will try to dig up his email, or 
maybe he will chime in.
- Original Message -
From: Brian Casey
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: Controling Waves plugins


Chuck is the man for that from what I've seen in my time here!

I think he has settings and stuff that he kindly shares.

HTH
Brian.


From: Poppa Bear
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:49 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Controling Waves plugins


Does anybody on here have the time to give me a step by step on using 
my 002 to start controling my waves Silver bundle in PT? If not, can somebody 
stear me to a resource that is accessible?
Thanks
www.soundclick.com/ghettomissionary for your Christian Hip-hop.
Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, 
Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com



Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging

2012-06-21 Thread Slau Halatyn
I think you meant to say "does not," right? Well, the insertion point stays in 
place unless the transport is engaged.

I wouldn't necessarily use the term "playhead" because, aside from the option 
for "stationary playhead" in Pro Tools HD, there's no playhead, per se. It's 
just an insertion cursor moving along a timeline much like a cursor in a word 
processor. Just thought I'd mention it, while we're on the subject and the term 
came up.

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> OK, so when you split, basically what you're saying is, the play head does 
> actually move until you tab or option tab, right?
> 
> Sorry I didn't get back with ya about this sooner.  We've had an internet 
> outage all day.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging
> 
> 
> Chris,
> 
> It depends on which point you split first, the beginning or ending of the 
> region you wish to nudge. If you first split the beginning of the region and 
> then the end, naturally, the region you wish to select is before the 
> insertion point. In that case, use Option-Tab to move back to the previous 
> region boundary and then use Shift Tab to select the region.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> Oh, ok.  Coolness.  That's definitely a nice thing to know.
>> 
>> So if I did it the other way, where I did command e then had to select the 
>> region, as soon as I hit command+E, would I then want to tab to the next 
>> region, or actually would the region I want be before my play head where I'd 
>> want to option tab.  In other words, when I split with command+E, the part 
>> of the region I split off into its own, is that gonna then be to the right 
>> of my cursor, or to the left?  Does that make sense what I'm asking?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, you got it. One other thing you can do that might expedite things in a 
>> certain way is, if you have a large region, instead of splitting two points 
>> and then selecting, you can make a selection first and then press Command-r 
>> to "capture a region." You'll be prompted to name the region but then you 
>> will have automatically created the region necessary to nudge and it'll 
>> already be selected.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> 
>>> Ahh, that does make sense.  So, do i first then have to split, where I want 
>>> the region to start?
>>> 
>>> Like say, I go 4 bars into the track, then would I need to just start 
>>> selecting?  I'd think no, I'd have to first split, as if I don't, it's 
>>> gonna then nudge the entire recording, so go say, 4 bars, with this example 
>>> in, then hit command+E to split, then use I guess my tab key to move to the 
>>> next region, or option+tab to go to the prev, then shift+tab to select it.  
>>> Then once selected, I could nudge.
>>> 
>>> Is my logic on this correct, Slau?
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To nudge a region, the region must be selected. Use the plus and minus keys 
>>> on the numeric keypad. Plus moves the region to the right or later in the 
>>> timeline and minus moves it to the left or earlier in the timeline. If 
>>> there's no region selected, using the plus or minus keys will simply move 
>>> the insertion point by the nudge value.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> 
 OK, guys, give me a break, it's early in the morning.  LOL!  I'm trying 
 for the life of me to remember how to nudge something left or right in a 
 session.  I mean, what's the keystroke, to do it?  I know you gotta first 
 select the audio to nudge, then split it with command e to a new region. I 
 just don't remember after that what to hit to actually nudge it.  Also, I 
 am right about assuming you gotta select what you wanna nudge, right? 
 Something doesn't sound right about that logically, as why would you 
 select something.  We're not trying to modify a selection, we're just 
 wanting it shoved to the right or left a bit from a certain point in the 
 session, so my logic says no, you don't need to select it, but then 
 another part of me says yeah, you do, though I can't justify why.
 
 Can someone give me a hand?  I'm also gonna pull out my second lesson I 
 had with Kevin that was recorded, as didn't we cover that briefly, kevin? 
 I kind a remember we did on the outer core of things.
 
 Chris.
 
>>> 
>> 
> 



Re: Controling Waves plugins

2012-06-21 Thread Poppa Bear
Thanks Chuck, give me a day or two, I just brought the Mack back from the 
studio and I'm still getting my spot ready here at home to set it up with the 
002 and some moniters. 
Thanks 
  - Original Message - 
  From: CHUCK REICHEL 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Controling Waves plugins


  Hi Poppa,
  Heres my contact info again. :)
  Talk soon




  CHUCK REICHEL
  soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
  www.SoundPictureRecording.com
  954-742-0019
  Isaiah 26 : 3
   Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because 
he trusteth in thee.


  In GOD I Trust


  On Jun 21, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:


I do remember something like that, I will try to dig up his email, or maybe 
he will chime in.
  - Original Message -
  From: Brian Casey
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:56 PM
  Subject: Re: Controling Waves plugins


  Chuck is the man for that from what I've seen in my time here!

  I think he has settings and stuff that he kindly shares.

  HTH
  Brian.


  From: Poppa Bear
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:49 PM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Controling Waves plugins


  Does anybody on here have the time to give me a step by step on using my 
002 to start controling my waves Silver bundle in PT? If not, can somebody 
stear me to a resource that is accessible?
  Thanks
  www.soundclick.com/ghettomissionary for your Christian Hip-hop.
  Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, 
Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com



Re: Pro Tools 10

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sorry, your response didn't get included in this message, for some weird 
reason.  Please try again.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "HF" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10



On 6/21/2012 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Come again?

I don't think so, as I managed to dig up a p t 9 standard dvd, but my p t 
10 ilok license isn't allowing it to work, so I don't think, unless you 
got some different kind a license, that is the case.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Chris Norman" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10



I think what people are trying to say, is that if you get an iLok with
a license for PT 10 on it, it automatically authorizes PT 9 as well,
at least I know mine's a combined license or something.

HTH.

On 19/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:

no no no, what he's saying is, if you buy PT from somewhere like Guitar
Center, etc. you'll probably be able to get 10.0, not 10.2, with an 
included

ilok that already has the license on it.  This way you'd install that,
rather than going to the Avid web site which probably only would give 
you

10.2.

Chris.

  - Original Message -
  From: Jon Solitro
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10


  So you're saying buy a boxed version from somewhere, but don't 
install it
- download 10.0 from Avid and use the iLok I get in the box to 
authorize it?



--
Take care,

Chris Norman.





Guys,

Check your ILok account, it'll tell you exactly what you have a license 
for. As for the DVD, just download it yourself. You can get it via your 
Avid account.


HF





Re: Controling Waves plugins

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Chuck,

Do you have Skype by chance?

BTW, beautiful verse you have there in your signature.  I won't go into a long 
rant about that, don't worry, but wow.  Very nice.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: CHUCK REICHEL 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Controling Waves plugins


  Hi Poppa,
  Heres my contact info again. :)
  Talk soon




  CHUCK REICHEL
  soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
  www.SoundPictureRecording.com
  954-742-0019
  Isaiah 26 : 3
   Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because 
he trusteth in thee.


  In GOD I Trust


  On Jun 21, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:


I do remember something like that, I will try to dig up his email, or maybe 
he will chime in.
  - Original Message -
  From: Brian Casey
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:56 PM
  Subject: Re: Controling Waves plugins


  Chuck is the man for that from what I've seen in my time here!

  I think he has settings and stuff that he kindly shares.

  HTH
  Brian.


  From: Poppa Bear
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:49 PM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Controling Waves plugins


  Does anybody on here have the time to give me a step by step on using my 
002 to start controling my waves Silver bundle in PT? If not, can somebody 
stear me to a resource that is accessible?
  Thanks
  www.soundclick.com/ghettomissionary for your Christian Hip-hop.
  Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, 
Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com



Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, so when you split, basically what you're saying is, the play head does 
actually move until you tab or option tab, right?


Sorry I didn't get back with ya about this sooner.  We've had an internet 
outage all day.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging


Chris,

It depends on which point you split first, the beginning or ending of the 
region you wish to nudge. If you first split the beginning of the region and 
then the end, naturally, the region you wish to select is before the 
insertion point. In that case, use Option-Tab to move back to the previous 
region boundary and then use Shift Tab to select the region.


HTH,

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


Oh, ok.  Coolness.  That's definitely a nice thing to know.

So if I did it the other way, where I did command e then had to select the 
region, as soon as I hit command+E, would I then want to tab to the next 
region, or actually would the region I want be before my play head where 
I'd want to option tab.  In other words, when I split with command+E, the 
part of the region I split off into its own, is that gonna then be to the 
right of my cursor, or to the left?  Does that make sense what I'm asking?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging


Yes, you got it. One other thing you can do that might expedite things in 
a certain way is, if you have a large region, instead of splitting two 
points and then selecting, you can make a selection first and then press 
Command-r to "capture a region." You'll be prompted to name the region but 
then you will have automatically created the region necessary to nudge and 
it'll already be selected.


HTH,

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Ahh, that does make sense.  So, do i first then have to split, where I 
want the region to start?


Like say, I go 4 bars into the track, then would I need to just start 
selecting?  I'd think no, I'd have to first split, as if I don't, it's 
gonna then nudge the entire recording, so go say, 4 bars, with this 
example in, then hit command+E to split, then use I guess my tab key to 
move to the next region, or option+tab to go to the prev, then shift+tab 
to select it.  Then once selected, I could nudge.


Is my logic on this correct, Slau?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging


To nudge a region, the region must be selected. Use the plus and minus 
keys on the numeric keypad. Plus moves the region to the right or later 
in the timeline and minus moves it to the left or earlier in the 
timeline. If there's no region selected, using the plus or minus keys 
will simply move the insertion point by the nudge value.


HTH,

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, guys, give me a break, it's early in the morning.  LOL!  I'm trying 
for the life of me to remember how to nudge something left or right in a 
session.  I mean, what's the keystroke, to do it?  I know you gotta 
first select the audio to nudge, then split it with command e to a new 
region. I just don't remember after that what to hit to actually nudge 
it.  Also, I am right about assuming you gotta select what you wanna 
nudge, right? Something doesn't sound right about that logically, as why 
would you select something.  We're not trying to modify a selection, 
we're just wanting it shoved to the right or left a bit from a certain 
point in the session, so my logic says no, you don't need to select it, 
but then another part of me says yeah, you do, though I can't justify 
why.


Can someone give me a hand?  I'm also gonna pull out my second lesson I 
had with Kevin that was recorded, as didn't we cover that briefly, 
kevin? I kind a remember we did on the outer core of things.


Chris.









Re: Pro Tools 10

2012-06-21 Thread HF

On 6/21/2012 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Come again?

I don't think so, as I managed to dig up a p t 9 standard dvd, but my 
p t 10 ilok license isn't allowing it to work, so I don't think, 
unless you got some different kind a license, that is the case.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Chris Norman" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10



I think what people are trying to say, is that if you get an iLok with
a license for PT 10 on it, it automatically authorizes PT 9 as well,
at least I know mine's a combined license or something.

HTH.

On 19/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:

no no no, what he's saying is, if you buy PT from somewhere like Guitar
Center, etc. you'll probably be able to get 10.0, not 10.2, with an 
included

ilok that already has the license on it.  This way you'd install that,
rather than going to the Avid web site which probably only would 
give you

10.2.

Chris.

  - Original Message -
  From: Jon Solitro
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10


  So you're saying buy a boxed version from somewhere, but don't 
install it
- download 10.0 from Avid and use the iLok I get in the box to 
authorize it?



--
Take care,

Chris Norman.

 



Guys,

Check your ILok account, it'll tell you exactly what you have a license 
for. As for the DVD, just download it yourself. You can get it via your 
Avid account.


HF



Re: Controling Waves plugins

2012-06-21 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Poppa,
Heres my contact info again. :)
Talk soon


CHUCK REICHEL
soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
www.SoundPictureRecording.com
954-742-0019
Isaiah 26 : 3
 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he 
trusteth in thee.

In GOD I Trust

On Jun 21, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:

> I do remember something like that, I will try to dig up his email, or maybe 
> he will chime in.
> - Original Message -
> From: Brian Casey
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Controling Waves plugins
> 
> Chuck is the man for that from what I've seen in my time here!
>  
> I think he has settings and stuff that he kindly shares.
>  
> HTH
> Brian.
> 
> From: Poppa Bear
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:49 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Controling Waves plugins
> 
> Does anybody on here have the time to give me a step by step on using my 002 
> to start controling my waves Silver bundle in PT? If not, can somebody stear 
> me to a resource that is accessible?
> Thanks
> www.soundclick.com/ghettomissionary for your Christian Hip-hop.
> Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering 
> and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com



Re: Controling Waves plugins

2012-06-21 Thread Poppa Bear
I do remember something like that, I will try to dig up his email, or maybe he 
will chime in. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Casey 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:56 PM
  Subject: Re: Controling Waves plugins


  Chuck is the man for that from what I've seen in my time here! 

  I think he has settings and stuff that he kindly shares. 

  HTH
  Brian.


  From: Poppa Bear 
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:49 PM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Controling Waves plugins


  Does anybody on here have the time to give me a step by step on using my 002 
to start controling my waves Silver bundle in PT? If not, can somebody stear me 
to a resource that is accessible? 
  Thanks
  www.soundclick.com/ghettomissionary for your Christian Hip-hop. 
  Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering 
and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com

Re: Mainstream Recording?

2012-06-21 Thread Poppa Bear
I can appreciate all of the answers given so far and would like to add some 
more thoughts. I have a small recording studio and have various interactions 
with people who have recorded in different places and many have different 
philosophies. I know one guy who feels that you can't get anything quality 
without having at least a fifty thousand dollar set up. Another guy I know 
puts out nice hip-hop tracks with a $300 mic, an outdated version of Adobe 
Audition and a trackmaster compressor strip. Neither of them have put out 
anything that is about to become a Grammy nominee, but both can use the 
tools they have very well. If I get permission I may load a song to drop box 
that a guy recorded completely on a Mack book, using the Mac book mic and 
all. It would blow your mind.


I like listening to some of Jack Johnsons albums and much of the equipment 
they use is vintage and analog, and even though some might criticize some of 
the older gear and techniques they use, I really dig something in the sound 
of many of his tracks even though it is not your contemporary studio per 
say. There are tons of songs in different genres that are recorded in less 
than stellar studios playing on the radio, internet and stored on thousands 
of people's computers and IPods around the world and people don't really 
care what they used to record them. It has to come down to two things for 
the most part, the music, and the ability to use your tools proficiently, I 
didn't say perfectly, but proficiently. There is a balance in those two 
areas, some have to wear both hats of recording engineer and artist, and 
that is a difficult juggling act because there is often a mysterious vale 
that shadows the judgment, sometimes impairing it so that it is hard to 
gauge the quality of our music, or the quality of our recording and we have 
to continually keep coming back to the place where we enjoy the music, don't 
become a slave to perfection, be ready to grow in new ways, developing your 
craft as a person who is comfortable with what they do and why they do it 
and last but not least, keep first things first.


Hope that my soap box spill can bring a little more light and help you to 
have a broader picture of the why and how of recording as a philosophy, a 
gift, and a road, and not some quantifiable answer or a final destination 
that depends on the missing link or a magic formula.




Re: Controling Waves plugins

2012-06-21 Thread Brian Casey
Chuck is the man for that from what I've seen in my time here! 

I think he has settings and stuff that he kindly shares. 

HTH
Brian.


From: Poppa Bear 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:49 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Controling Waves plugins


Does anybody on here have the time to give me a step by step on using my 002 to 
start controling my waves Silver bundle in PT? If not, can somebody stear me to 
a resource that is accessible? 
Thanks
www.soundclick.com/ghettomissionary for your Christian Hip-hop. 
Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and 
all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com

Controling Waves plugins

2012-06-21 Thread Poppa Bear
Does anybody on here have the time to give me a step by step on using my 002 to 
start controling my waves Silver bundle in PT? If not, can somebody stear me to 
a resource that is accessible? 
Thanks
www.soundclick.com/ghettomissionary for your Christian Hip-hop. 
Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and 
all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com

Re: Mainstream Recording?

2012-06-21 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Chris, all.
Two different points here.
Chris to get your answer, research the album in question.  Many artists 
are going back to the old fashioned analog way,  Kiss did this for one of 
their last albums, and Michael's "crazy in love," did this too.  A room 
full of real musicians  mixed with the solid sort of studio gear that 
still creates  the real thing.
That being said, yes on pro tools being the industry standard, even for 
radio, think national public radio for example.  the first gear I ever saw 
computer wise  was a mac running pro tools, and this was in the mid 90's. 
I went to school before that, and got my masters so I would now what I 
needed to do as a radio professional, and ask for as a singer working in 
other people's houses.
When I began freelance journalism work in addition to radio production the 
gear became remains and has to be pro tools...although I have a digi 003, 
I 
am still using the outspoken structure.
which is fine for radio production, I do not mix my music myself...that is 
the job of folks like those on this list.


However, at least in Canada, the home studio industry is an arm of 
professional industry recording, likely because of how homes are 
built here. 
You can create a solid production house, well in   the basement of your 
house up here, and find professional trade  magazines that focus 
entirely on home studio work.

There is nothing wrong with making music for music sake!
but one thing that makes me crazy is that some feel an mp3 file is 
real music, it. is. not!
with the right computer the right mixing environment and the write 
speakers, you can create professional quality just with pro tools, some 
media professionals do it every single day...from the basement smiles.

back to the corner,
Kare

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Nick Gawronski wrote:

Hi, I agree with you totally on all of those points and probably should have 
said that I am not against the home user learning in their home first as that 
is what I did with my windows systems and sound forge and studio recorder and 
some with cakewalk.  I think there is a market for all types even for the 
home user who is learning this stuff and think that if you don't have some 
type of home setup there is really no easy way to learn at your own speed and 
skill level.  When you record what makes the devices you use unstable and how 
are these things connected to your system?  I use firewire for my digi 003 
and one of the extress card slots for the sata drive to get the best speeds. 
What model of mac book pro do you have?  Nick Gawronski


On 6/21/2012 8:24 AM, Chris Norman wrote:

 Please, when you read this, note, I'm not saying anyone who's
 responded to these messages is wrong, there's some great people who
 know infinitely more about what they're talking about than I, but I'd
 like to give the view of a hobbiest.

 I have a studio in my spare bedroom, it's not professional in any way,
 shape or form. I'm sure if anyone who turned up and knew their stuff,
 they'd probably leave on a stretcher from laughing so hard, but, the
 point is, it works for me.

 I have spent a fair amount of money over the last couple of years
 getting the stuff I wanted. I do not know what's good or bad, but I
 followed the suggestions of people on this list, and others, and got
 stuff which was affordable, and good.

 With this stuff, I can get the sounds I want and rely upon. They might
 not be radio quality, or up to the standard of Lianne Rhymes, or
 anyone like that, but they work for me.

 Judging by the stuff you've written Christopher, you're in a similar
 situation to myself, you're just recording for fun, and you probably
 don't want to do it seriously. Even if you do, I see no reason this
 stuff, with some modifications, could get you a fairly decent recorded
 sound, which you could sell to people.

 Below is my gear list, as far as I know it. I'm actually not sure what
 my monitors are, but they're MAudio somethings, and they were were
 some £300 for the pair.

 I'm using Pro Tools 10, running on a MacBook Pro. It's not the latest
 one, but the one before that I think. I (stupidly), brought it about a
 week before the new MacBook Pro with the Thunderbalt ports came out.
 Off course I use a full sized apple keyboard, and, when I've saved up
 all the money for my iMac, I'll be using the Magic Trackpad too, so I
 can sit of my sofa to record, instead of cluttering up space I don't
 have, with another chair.

 I'm using a Euphonix Artist Mix control surface, and an MBox Pro
 (which I find quite unstable with Pro Tools and Mac OS X 10.7.whatever
 it is).

 The monitors, as I said, are MAudio something or others, not really a
 clue.

 I have 2 Rode NT-1A's, which I use for tracking both acoustic guitar,
 and vocals.

 For the rare times when I record amped electric guitars, I borrow a
 pair of SM57's, which I went halves on with a friend of mine. For the
 times I'm feeling lazy, and actually, I still love the sound, I use a
 V

Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging

2012-06-21 Thread Slau Halatyn
Chris,

It depends on which point you split first, the beginning or ending of the 
region you wish to nudge. If you first split the beginning of the region and 
then the end, naturally, the region you wish to select is before the insertion 
point. In that case, use Option-Tab to move back to the previous region 
boundary and then use Shift Tab to select the region.

HTH,

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> Oh, ok.  Coolness.  That's definitely a nice thing to know.
> 
> So if I did it the other way, where I did command e then had to select the 
> region, as soon as I hit command+E, would I then want to tab to the next 
> region, or actually would the region I want be before my play head where I'd 
> want to option tab.  In other words, when I split with command+E, the part of 
> the region I split off into its own, is that gonna then be to the right of my 
> cursor, or to the left?  Does that make sense what I'm asking?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging
> 
> 
> Yes, you got it. One other thing you can do that might expedite things in a 
> certain way is, if you have a large region, instead of splitting two points 
> and then selecting, you can make a selection first and then press Command-r 
> to "capture a region." You'll be prompted to name the region but then you 
> will have automatically created the region necessary to nudge and it'll 
> already be selected.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> Ahh, that does make sense.  So, do i first then have to split, where I want 
>> the region to start?
>> 
>> Like say, I go 4 bars into the track, then would I need to just start 
>> selecting?  I'd think no, I'd have to first split, as if I don't, it's gonna 
>> then nudge the entire recording, so go say, 4 bars, with this example in, 
>> then hit command+E to split, then use I guess my tab key to move to the next 
>> region, or option+tab to go to the prev, then shift+tab to select it.  Then 
>> once selected, I could nudge.
>> 
>> Is my logic on this correct, Slau?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging
>> 
>> 
>> To nudge a region, the region must be selected. Use the plus and minus keys 
>> on the numeric keypad. Plus moves the region to the right or later in the 
>> timeline and minus moves it to the left or earlier in the timeline. If 
>> there's no region selected, using the plus or minus keys will simply move 
>> the insertion point by the nudge value.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, guys, give me a break, it's early in the morning.  LOL!  I'm trying for 
>>> the life of me to remember how to nudge something left or right in a 
>>> session.  I mean, what's the keystroke, to do it?  I know you gotta first 
>>> select the audio to nudge, then split it with command e to a new region. I 
>>> just don't remember after that what to hit to actually nudge it.  Also, I 
>>> am right about assuming you gotta select what you wanna nudge, right? 
>>> Something doesn't sound right about that logically, as why would you select 
>>> something.  We're not trying to modify a selection, we're just wanting it 
>>> shoved to the right or left a bit from a certain point in the session, so 
>>> my logic says no, you don't need to select it, but then another part of me 
>>> says yeah, you do, though I can't justify why.
>>> 
>>> Can someone give me a hand?  I'm also gonna pull out my second lesson I had 
>>> with Kevin that was recorded, as didn't we cover that briefly, kevin? I 
>>> kind a remember we did on the outer core of things.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>> 
> 



Re: Mainstream Recording?

2012-06-21 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, I agree with you totally on all of those points and probably should 
have said that I am not against the home user learning in their home 
first as that is what I did with my windows systems and sound forge and 
studio recorder and some with cakewalk.  I think there is a market for 
all types even for the home user who is learning this stuff and think 
that if you don't have some type of home setup there is really no easy 
way to learn at your own speed and skill level.  When you record what 
makes the devices you use unstable and how are these things connected to 
your system?  I use firewire for my digi 003 and one of the extress card 
slots for the sata drive to get the best speeds.  What model of mac book 
pro do you have?  Nick Gawronski


On 6/21/2012 8:24 AM, Chris Norman wrote:

Please, when you read this, note, I'm not saying anyone who's
responded to these messages is wrong, there's some great people who
know infinitely more about what they're talking about than I, but I'd
like to give the view of a hobbiest.

I have a studio in my spare bedroom, it's not professional in any way,
shape or form. I'm sure if anyone who turned up and knew their stuff,
they'd probably leave on a stretcher from laughing so hard, but, the
point is, it works for me.

I have spent a fair amount of money over the last couple of years
getting the stuff I wanted. I do not know what's good or bad, but I
followed the suggestions of people on this list, and others, and got
stuff which was affordable, and good.

With this stuff, I can get the sounds I want and rely upon. They might
not be radio quality, or up to the standard of Lianne Rhymes, or
anyone like that, but they work for me.

Judging by the stuff you've written Christopher, you're in a similar
situation to myself, you're just recording for fun, and you probably
don't want to do it seriously. Even if you do, I see no reason this
stuff, with some modifications, could get you a fairly decent recorded
sound, which you could sell to people.

Below is my gear list, as far as I know it. I'm actually not sure what
my monitors are, but they're MAudio somethings, and they were were
some £300 for the pair.

I'm using Pro Tools 10, running on a MacBook Pro. It's not the latest
one, but the one before that I think. I (stupidly), brought it about a
week before the new MacBook Pro with the Thunderbalt ports came out.
Off course I use a full sized apple keyboard, and, when I've saved up
all the money for my iMac, I'll be using the Magic Trackpad too, so I
can sit of my sofa to record, instead of cluttering up space I don't
have, with another chair.

I'm using a Euphonix Artist Mix control surface, and an MBox Pro
(which I find quite unstable with Pro Tools and Mac OS X 10.7.whatever
it is).

The monitors, as I said, are MAudio something or others, not really a clue.

I have 2 Rode NT-1A's, which I use for tracking both acoustic guitar,
and vocals.

For the rare times when I record amped electric guitars, I borrow a
pair of SM57's, which I went halves on with a friend of mine. For the
times I'm feeling lazy, and actually, I still love the sound, I use a
Vox something or other preamp, which my girlfriend and another friend
of mine brought me for my birthday.

My main guitar is a Faith acoustic, again, not sure of the model, but
it was supposed to sell for £512 or so, but I got it for about £400,
because the shop I got it from (Noise Works in Coventry, England), had
an offer on. My electric guitar is a Fender Blacktop, and I have a
Crafter (I think), fretted acoustic bass, and a Spector Electric bass,
which I've had for years, and never changed the strings on, so it's
got a lovely basy sound.

I am using an Axium 49 as my MIDI controler, but for one song, for
which I tracked the MIDI while on the road somewhere, I used an Akai
LPK24 or something, basically, a keyboard with 2 octave, bus powered.

I have no soundproofing of any kind, apart from a bed setty in my
studio (if that counts), and the house is fairly old, so it's got nice
thick walls.

I've also used an MAudio Mobile Pre, which I use to record my band
mate, who plays a Clavia NordStage 88, to save us the ball ache of
carrying the damn thing up the stairs.

I have absolutely no idea what my headphones are, but I brought them
from a PX in Germany, when I was visiting my uncle for like 130 EUR.

I could probably never achieve a totally dry sound in this room, but
luckily, I've never felt the need too. If I did want too however, I
could probably hang a quilt from the wall some how or something.

It is a very basic setup, probably costing somewhere in the region of
5 or 6 grand in total, but, as I said, this stuff has been collected
over a few years. The desc, the audio interface, my control surface
and monitors were all brought fairly recently, but the guitars I've
collected since I started playing when I was 6.

If you like, I can send you some of the stuff I've done, so you guys
who know you're doing can have a laugh at it, b

Re: Please tell me there's an auto-Save feature!

2012-06-21 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, Well in pro tools 10 in the project folder there is a plugin 
settings folder so you could try just selecting the plugins you had and 
see if it did save your settings for the plugins you were using.  Nick 
Gawronski


On 6/21/2012 7:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I guess, Nick, my only concern is, can I remember how I processed the
vocals to get such a great sound?  I think I can, for what it's worth,
but will have to see, as I'll bet those audio files probably have, as
you said, the raw vocal, not the processed version.  Right?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Nick Gawronski"

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Please tell me there's an auto-Save feature!



Hi, it is called session file auto backups and I myself turned it off
as I always hit command and s to save something after recording so
don't have to be to consearnd.  The audio files folder however does
store the raw wav files that you record so even if you had a system
crash the recording itself would still exist.  Nick Gawronski

On 6/20/2012 9:55 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote:

Look in your session file backups folder inside your session. You'll
see a ton of files in there. choose the one that has the most recent
date on it. That may or may not contain your latest track. It's just
a gamble on whether or not it auto backed up after you recorded the
track. But that's where you'll always find your session backups.

Kevin









Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Oh, ok.  Coolness.  That's definitely a nice thing to know.

So if I did it the other way, where I did command e then had to select the 
region, as soon as I hit command+E, would I then want to tab to the next 
region, or actually would the region I want be before my play head where I'd 
want to option tab.  In other words, when I split with command+E, the part 
of the region I split off into its own, is that gonna then be to the right 
of my cursor, or to the left?  Does that make sense what I'm asking?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging


Yes, you got it. One other thing you can do that might expedite things in a 
certain way is, if you have a large region, instead of splitting two points 
and then selecting, you can make a selection first and then press Command-r 
to "capture a region." You'll be prompted to name the region but then you 
will have automatically created the region necessary to nudge and it'll 
already be selected.


HTH,

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Ahh, that does make sense.  So, do i first then have to split, where I 
want the region to start?


Like say, I go 4 bars into the track, then would I need to just start 
selecting?  I'd think no, I'd have to first split, as if I don't, it's 
gonna then nudge the entire recording, so go say, 4 bars, with this 
example in, then hit command+E to split, then use I guess my tab key to 
move to the next region, or option+tab to go to the prev, then shift+tab 
to select it.  Then once selected, I could nudge.


Is my logic on this correct, Slau?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging


To nudge a region, the region must be selected. Use the plus and minus 
keys on the numeric keypad. Plus moves the region to the right or later in 
the timeline and minus moves it to the left or earlier in the timeline. If 
there's no region selected, using the plus or minus keys will simply move 
the insertion point by the nudge value.


HTH,

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, guys, give me a break, it's early in the morning.  LOL!  I'm trying 
for the life of me to remember how to nudge something left or right in a 
session.  I mean, what's the keystroke, to do it?  I know you gotta first 
select the audio to nudge, then split it with command e to a new region. 
I just don't remember after that what to hit to actually nudge it.  Also, 
I am right about assuming you gotta select what you wanna nudge, right? 
Something doesn't sound right about that logically, as why would you 
select something.  We're not trying to modify a selection, we're just 
wanting it shoved to the right or left a bit from a certain point in the 
session, so my logic says no, you don't need to select it, but then 
another part of me says yeah, you do, though I can't justify why.


Can someone give me a hand?  I'm also gonna pull out my second lesson I 
had with Kevin that was recorded, as didn't we cover that briefly, kevin? 
I kind a remember we did on the outer core of things.


Chris.







Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging

2012-06-21 Thread Slau Halatyn
Yes, you got it. One other thing you can do that might expedite things in a 
certain way is, if you have a large region, instead of splitting two points and 
then selecting, you can make a selection first and then press Command-r to 
"capture a region." You'll be prompted to name the region but then you will 
have automatically created the region necessary to nudge and it'll already be 
selected.

HTH,

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> Ahh, that does make sense.  So, do i first then have to split, where I want 
> the region to start?
> 
> Like say, I go 4 bars into the track, then would I need to just start 
> selecting?  I'd think no, I'd have to first split, as if I don't, it's gonna 
> then nudge the entire recording, so go say, 4 bars, with this example in, 
> then hit command+E to split, then use I guess my tab key to move to the next 
> region, or option+tab to go to the prev, then shift+tab to select it.  Then 
> once selected, I could nudge.
> 
> Is my logic on this correct, Slau?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging
> 
> 
> To nudge a region, the region must be selected. Use the plus and minus keys 
> on the numeric keypad. Plus moves the region to the right or later in the 
> timeline and minus moves it to the left or earlier in the timeline. If 
> there's no region selected, using the plus or minus keys will simply move the 
> insertion point by the nudge value.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> OK, guys, give me a break, it's early in the morning.  LOL!  I'm trying for 
>> the life of me to remember how to nudge something left or right in a 
>> session.  I mean, what's the keystroke, to do it?  I know you gotta first 
>> select the audio to nudge, then split it with command e to a new region. I 
>> just don't remember after that what to hit to actually nudge it.  Also, I am 
>> right about assuming you gotta select what you wanna nudge, right? Something 
>> doesn't sound right about that logically, as why would you select something. 
>>  We're not trying to modify a selection, we're just wanting it shoved to the 
>> right or left a bit from a certain point in the session, so my logic says 
>> no, you don't need to select it, but then another part of me says yeah, you 
>> do, though I can't justify why.
>> 
>> Can someone give me a hand?  I'm also gonna pull out my second lesson I had 
>> with Kevin that was recorded, as didn't we cover that briefly, kevin? I kind 
>> a remember we did on the outer core of things.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
> 



Re: Pro Tools 10

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

BTW, please as I said before, Chris, get with me off list at

clgillan...@gmail.com

I have a mono audio track of vocal I did, and would like to use Harmoney 
engine to make it into 3 part harmoney, but the last time I tried the plugin 
on a friends system who had a full license of it, I couldn't figure the 
thing out to save my life, and seeing you say you use it...


If you can tell me after insertting it on insert A, of a track, then 
openning up the plugin, what in Voiceover, step by step to do to make this 
happen, that would be great.  I'd just like to hear it on my own vocal in 
action.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Norman" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10



P.S.: If you really have problems, I may have the PT 9 DVD lying
around, which I can send you an image of. I don't see as it's a
problem, because you can't use it without an iLok anyways, so it's not
like I'm giving you anything dodgy.

HTH.

On 21/06/2012, Chris Norman  wrote:

I think what people are trying to say, is that if you get an iLok with
a license for PT 10 on it, it automatically authorizes PT 9 as well,
at least I know mine's a combined license or something.

HTH.

On 19/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:

no no no, what he's saying is, if you buy PT from somewhere like Guitar
Center, etc. you'll probably be able to get 10.0, not 10.2, with an
included
ilok that already has the license on it.  This way you'd install that,
rather than going to the Avid web site which probably only would give 
you

10.2.

Chris.

  - Original Message -
  From: Jon Solitro
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10


  So you're saying buy a boxed version from somewhere, but don't install
it
- download 10.0 from Avid and use the iLok I get in the box to authorize
it?



--
Take care,

Chris Norman.






--
Take care,

Chris Norman.

 




Re: Pro Tools 10

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
No Chris, I'd think that would be fine as you're right, it's not like you're 
giving someone a license.  Not only this, but back when 9 was the most 
recent thing, you didn't have to buy p t 9 to get just the dvd.  Had you 
downloaded the 30 day trial, that would have given you the full dmg of the 
dvd.  The only thing that made it different as either a trial or as the full 
fledged thing was what type asset was on the ilok.  If you had a trial 
license, then, yeah... if you had the full thing, then you were in business. 
So yeah, you're exactly right, it probably wouldn't be a problem seeing Avid 
was offerring the 9 DVD just as they offer the 10.2 DVD now for free.  The 
DVD itself can't be used any how as you said without a valid asset of some 
sort.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Norman" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10



P.S.: If you really have problems, I may have the PT 9 DVD lying
around, which I can send you an image of. I don't see as it's a
problem, because you can't use it without an iLok anyways, so it's not
like I'm giving you anything dodgy.

HTH.

On 21/06/2012, Chris Norman  wrote:

I think what people are trying to say, is that if you get an iLok with
a license for PT 10 on it, it automatically authorizes PT 9 as well,
at least I know mine's a combined license or something.

HTH.

On 19/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:

no no no, what he's saying is, if you buy PT from somewhere like Guitar
Center, etc. you'll probably be able to get 10.0, not 10.2, with an
included
ilok that already has the license on it.  This way you'd install that,
rather than going to the Avid web site which probably only would give 
you

10.2.

Chris.

  - Original Message -
  From: Jon Solitro
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10


  So you're saying buy a boxed version from somewhere, but don't install
it
- download 10.0 from Avid and use the iLok I get in the box to authorize
it?



--
Take care,

Chris Norman.






--
Take care,

Chris Norman.

 




Re: Pro Tools 10

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Come again?

I don't think so, as I managed to dig up a p t 9 standard dvd, but my p t 10 
ilok license isn't allowing it to work, so I don't think, unless you got 
some different kind a license, that is the case.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Norman" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10



I think what people are trying to say, is that if you get an iLok with
a license for PT 10 on it, it automatically authorizes PT 9 as well,
at least I know mine's a combined license or something.

HTH.

On 19/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:

no no no, what he's saying is, if you buy PT from somewhere like Guitar
Center, etc. you'll probably be able to get 10.0, not 10.2, with an 
included

ilok that already has the license on it.  This way you'd install that,
rather than going to the Avid web site which probably only would give you
10.2.

Chris.

  - Original Message -
  From: Jon Solitro
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10


  So you're saying buy a boxed version from somewhere, but don't install 
it
- download 10.0 from Avid and use the iLok I get in the box to authorize 
it?



--
Take care,

Chris Norman.

 




Balancing channels

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

OK, this might be a P T question, but it may be more a recording gear
question in general, so I apologise.  I don't have the skill to know either
way.

Basically though, here's the deal, and if someone can offer me on or off
list some techniques to work with this, that would really! be appreciated!
OK, so here's the deal.  On my audio interface, I have 4 inputs.  1/2, and
3/4.  Basically, what it amounts to is, these are all mono channels.  So, in
other words, 1 and 3 are the left channel, and 2 and 4 are the right
channel.  I hope that makes sense.  It definitely should.  Because of this,
The only way, to have only one of those channels sent down the pipeline for
lack of better word, to my DAW, which of corse, is ProTools, yet come
through both left/right channel, is to create a mono audio track.
Otherwise, if I try recording something from input 1 as a stereo track, even
if my ProTools pan dials both are set 50/50, or in other words,
center/center, I'm only gonna get signal from the left channel.  Hince, same
other way, if I record something isolated on say, input 2, because input 2
on my interface only is for the right channel, remember: 1/3=left.
2/4=right.  So, if I record isolated on channel 2, again, unless I'm doing
it as a mono track, we'll only get sound on the right channel.  BTW, nope.
No pan dials on the actual interface.  That's all done through the DAW.  So,
with all this said, here is my question.  I have a quarter inch cord which
is running from the stereo headphone jack of my keyboard, to the other end
which is split into a mono y on the patch cord, so I can plug into the
interface's 3, and 4.  the thing is, now, I have to turn up the gain on the
interface on both channel 3 and channel 4 to get a signal on both the left
and right channel when doing a stereo track.  OK, so my question is, this
means each gain knob on my interface is seperet.  in other words, the 3 dial
controls just that, only input 3 which is only the left channel, whilst 4
controls the gain/input level only for the right channel.  So, essentially,
I could have input 3 on left way up, while input 4 on right way down.  Or,
vice versa.  You probably already have foreshadowed where i'm going with
this question, haven't ya.  Basically, in a situation like this, how do I
know that both input gain dials are set equally?  I don't wanna have more
signal ump on my left channel than the right channel.  Yeah, you can move
the pan dials in P T, but remember, that only is the output sound after the
audio has been recorded.  Same goes with the volume slider on each track in
ProTools.  That only controls your output, not the input.  So with that
said, how can I snap both the inputs to the same gain level on my interface.
NO, there is not a feature on the interface to have it do this
automatically.  Is it just gonna be a matter of listenning, paying real real
real! close attention, and guessing, or what?  Also, with a stereo track, I
noticed in P T, I still only seem to be getting one meter showing per track.
I guess that is the meter over all for both left and right channel.  I'm
saying this is the case both in a stereo or! a mono track, that I only see
one meter.  Can I make it where if it's a stereo track, I can see two
meters?  One for left, and one for right?  This way i have a bit more
control over how much level is going where?

Chris. 



Re: In dire need for Quantizing help.

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK Chris, let's talk about exportting.  Say I have a sequence I've done of 
maybe 4 tracks.  I'm not exactly sure how you're doing your midi.  Are you 
creating xpand2 tracks, then routing the midi to through with the output 
path pop up buttons, or are you simply using instrument tracks like xpand2 
to start with?


Second of all, say I have 4 tracks, all instrument stereo tracks, no midi 
tracs, and on each of them, I inject the xpand2 plugin on insert A, of each 
track, set my instrument, say piano from bank 13 of xpand2, etc. then 
record.  Then, once done, I wanna get that over into an smf type 1 midi .mid 
file.  How do I export it out of P T into a .mid file?  Specifically if I 
have recorded say 4 tracks: piano, base, strings, and say, drums?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Norman" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: In dire need for Quantizing help.



I think it may be option 0, but can't remember.

The other, which is what I do if things really go amuch, is export the
MIDI of the track you've recorded, then edit it in QWS, which is a
free windows program availabel from andrelouis.com/qws, and then
re-import it.

It'll come up on a midi track. When you interact with that MIDI track
from the mix window, there's a thing that says "MIDI In", which you
can ignore, and then "MIDI Out", which you'll want to set to be the
instrument you want to use, which has to be inserted on a software
instrument list.

For these settings to be visible, you may or may not have to have
Instruments selected in your mix windows view in the view menu. I have
it on, but can't remember if it actually makes a difference or not.

HTH.

On 20/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:

Eric,

I'll try it and get back and let you know.

Chris.

- Original Message -
From: "Eric Lambier" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: In dire need for Quantizing help.


Hey Chris

this is how I do it.

I use control P or semi colon in the edit window to select a track. 
Control


P held down will bring you to the first track either by holding it or
pressing over and over. Control semi colon will bring you to the end of 
your


track list. Note, this is a pro tools command so voice over says nothing!

After selecting your track, use command A to select all.

Go to event menu or I think the short cut is option 1 to open the 
quantize

field.

Go over to combine quantize and use VO space to drop it down. now using
arrows ayou should hear which ;amount your quantizing. It automatically 
is

set on 16th note. If you know that, you don't have to do anything but hit
enter twice agter opening the quantize field.

After selecting the amount to quantize hit enter once ort twice nad it
should be quantized.

Hope this helped!

Eric
On 2012-06-17, at 3:01 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


I am just not! getting this!

I have recorded a piano track using SPand 2 on a stereo instrument 
track.


In my track list table, I made absolutely certained that the track was
selected, and it is.  I then selected the audio to be quantized, which 
in


this case was the entire recording.  Once done, by hitting return, then
shift option end, I went to the event menu, tempo operations, then
quantize. I cannot figure out at this point what on earth I'm doing.  In
Sonar, I used to just be able to set my note value, say, I wanted to
quantize to a quarter note, or say to the value of an 8th note.  I'm
seeing nowhere to do this.  I see a popup menu that says quantize how, 
but


I can't drop it opened with vo+Space, and routing the mouse then hitting
vo+shift+space doesn't seem to wanna do it either.  I know we can't 
really


get at things like the strength, etc. but that's fine, for now at least,
but how do I, at least! specify an 8th note vs. a quarter, or half, etc.
etc.

When I routed the mouse to apply, then clicked it with vo+shift+space,
just to be safe, then did num pad enter, followed by the qwerty return 
key


to dismiss the quantize screen, I know, that may be a bit extreme, but
just to be safe... I heard absolutely no difference when just applying 
and


accepting the default values which it looks like really is all I can do.
I have just enough of a hearing loss that for me, especially with drums, 
I


tend to rush things a bit making me not very steady, so for me, if I'm
gonna quit using karaoke tracks and do my own music, quantizing is gonna
be escential! There's really no other way around it.

Chris.







--
Take care,

Chris Norman.

 




Re: Mainstream Recording?

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Chris.

Get with me off list.

clgillan...@gmail.com

I'd like to talk to you about Harmoney Engine, if that's ok.  I stink at 
doing harmoney, but I can't figure out the plugin with Voiceover.


If you could write me out some steps to at least use the trial version, and 
see if I like it, and if it does what I want...


Basically, I just need to take a vocal track, and I want basically to have 
it make it into 3 part harmoney.


I can get the trial and put the asset on my ilok.  That is absolutely no 
problem.  That'll be a sinch.  I just need some direction on once done, from 
the point I put it on an insert on the audio track, then how do I make it 
work, in general.


I don't expect you to teach me the in and out of the entire plugin.  That's 
what the documentation is for, but if you off list, as this is off topic for 
the p t list, could at least tell me the basics of how at least to get some 
result with it, and hear it on my own vocals to see what it can do, that 
would be great!


Again, my address is:

clgillan...@gmail.com

Also, yeah, why don't you attach an mp3 to an e-mail for me to hear of 
something you've done with your setup?


I'd love to hear what you got.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Norman" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Mainstream Recording?


Please, when you read this, note, I'm not saying anyone who's
responded to these messages is wrong, there's some great people who
know infinitely more about what they're talking about than I, but I'd
like to give the view of a hobbiest.

I have a studio in my spare bedroom, it's not professional in any way,
shape or form. I'm sure if anyone who turned up and knew their stuff,
they'd probably leave on a stretcher from laughing so hard, but, the
point is, it works for me.

I have spent a fair amount of money over the last couple of years
getting the stuff I wanted. I do not know what's good or bad, but I
followed the suggestions of people on this list, and others, and got
stuff which was affordable, and good.

With this stuff, I can get the sounds I want and rely upon. They might
not be radio quality, or up to the standard of Lianne Rhymes, or
anyone like that, but they work for me.

Judging by the stuff you've written Christopher, you're in a similar
situation to myself, you're just recording for fun, and you probably
don't want to do it seriously. Even if you do, I see no reason this
stuff, with some modifications, could get you a fairly decent recorded
sound, which you could sell to people.

Below is my gear list, as far as I know it. I'm actually not sure what
my monitors are, but they're MAudio somethings, and they were were
some £300 for the pair.

I'm using Pro Tools 10, running on a MacBook Pro. It's not the latest
one, but the one before that I think. I (stupidly), brought it about a
week before the new MacBook Pro with the Thunderbalt ports came out.
Off course I use a full sized apple keyboard, and, when I've saved up
all the money for my iMac, I'll be using the Magic Trackpad too, so I
can sit of my sofa to record, instead of cluttering up space I don't
have, with another chair.

I'm using a Euphonix Artist Mix control surface, and an MBox Pro
(which I find quite unstable with Pro Tools and Mac OS X 10.7.whatever
it is).

The monitors, as I said, are MAudio something or others, not really a clue.

I have 2 Rode NT-1A's, which I use for tracking both acoustic guitar,
and vocals.

For the rare times when I record amped electric guitars, I borrow a
pair of SM57's, which I went halves on with a friend of mine. For the
times I'm feeling lazy, and actually, I still love the sound, I use a
Vox something or other preamp, which my girlfriend and another friend
of mine brought me for my birthday.

My main guitar is a Faith acoustic, again, not sure of the model, but
it was supposed to sell for £512 or so, but I got it for about £400,
because the shop I got it from (Noise Works in Coventry, England), had
an offer on. My electric guitar is a Fender Blacktop, and I have a
Crafter (I think), fretted acoustic bass, and a Spector Electric bass,
which I've had for years, and never changed the strings on, so it's
got a lovely basy sound.

I am using an Axium 49 as my MIDI controler, but for one song, for
which I tracked the MIDI while on the road somewhere, I used an Akai
LPK24 or something, basically, a keyboard with 2 octave, bus powered.

I have no soundproofing of any kind, apart from a bed setty in my
studio (if that counts), and the house is fairly old, so it's got nice
thick walls.

I've also used an MAudio Mobile Pre, which I use to record my band
mate, who plays a Clavia NordStage 88, to save us the ball ache of
carrying the damn thing up the stairs.

I have absolutely no idea what my headphones are, but I brought them
from a PX in Germany, when I was visiting my uncle for like 130 EUR.

I could probably never achieve a totally dry sound in this room, but
luckily, I've never felt the need too.

Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Ahh, that does make sense.  So, do i first then have to split, where I want 
the region to start?


Like say, I go 4 bars into the track, then would I need to just start 
selecting?  I'd think no, I'd have to first split, as if I don't, it's gonna 
then nudge the entire recording, so go say, 4 bars, with this example in, 
then hit command+E to split, then use I guess my tab key to move to the next 
region, or option+tab to go to the prev, then shift+tab to select it.  Then 
once selected, I could nudge.


Is my logic on this correct, Slau?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging


To nudge a region, the region must be selected. Use the plus and minus keys 
on the numeric keypad. Plus moves the region to the right or later in the 
timeline and minus moves it to the left or earlier in the timeline. If 
there's no region selected, using the plus or minus keys will simply move 
the insertion point by the nudge value.


HTH,

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, guys, give me a break, it's early in the morning.  LOL!  I'm trying 
for the life of me to remember how to nudge something left or right in a 
session.  I mean, what's the keystroke, to do it?  I know you gotta first 
select the audio to nudge, then split it with command e to a new region. 
I just don't remember after that what to hit to actually nudge it.  Also, 
I am right about assuming you gotta select what you wanna nudge, right? 
Something doesn't sound right about that logically, as why would you 
select something.  We're not trying to modify a selection, we're just 
wanting it shoved to the right or left a bit from a certain point in the 
session, so my logic says no, you don't need to select it, but then 
another part of me says yeah, you do, though I can't justify why.


Can someone give me a hand?  I'm also gonna pull out my second lesson I 
had with Kevin that was recorded, as didn't we cover that briefly, kevin? 
I kind a remember we did on the outer core of things.


Chris.





Re: Pro Tools 10

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Norman
P.S.: If you really have problems, I may have the PT 9 DVD lying
around, which I can send you an image of. I don't see as it's a
problem, because you can't use it without an iLok anyways, so it's not
like I'm giving you anything dodgy.

HTH.

On 21/06/2012, Chris Norman  wrote:
> I think what people are trying to say, is that if you get an iLok with
> a license for PT 10 on it, it automatically authorizes PT 9 as well,
> at least I know mine's a combined license or something.
>
> HTH.
>
> On 19/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
>> no no no, what he's saying is, if you buy PT from somewhere like Guitar
>> Center, etc. you'll probably be able to get 10.0, not 10.2, with an
>> included
>> ilok that already has the license on it.  This way you'd install that,
>> rather than going to the Avid web site which probably only would give you
>> 10.2.
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Jon Solitro
>>   To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>   Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:36 PM
>>   Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10
>>
>>
>>   So you're saying buy a boxed version from somewhere, but don't install
>> it
>> - download 10.0 from Avid and use the iLok I get in the box to authorize
>> it?
>
>
> --
> Take care,
>
> Chris Norman.
>
> 
>


-- 
Take care,

Chris Norman.




Re: Pro Tools 10

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Norman
I think what people are trying to say, is that if you get an iLok with
a license for PT 10 on it, it automatically authorizes PT 9 as well,
at least I know mine's a combined license or something.

HTH.

On 19/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
> no no no, what he's saying is, if you buy PT from somewhere like Guitar
> Center, etc. you'll probably be able to get 10.0, not 10.2, with an included
> ilok that already has the license on it.  This way you'd install that,
> rather than going to the Avid web site which probably only would give you
> 10.2.
>
> Chris.
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Jon Solitro
>   To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:36 PM
>   Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10
>
>
>   So you're saying buy a boxed version from somewhere, but don't install it
> - download 10.0 from Avid and use the iLok I get in the box to authorize it?


-- 
Take care,

Chris Norman.




Re: In dire need for Quantizing help.

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Norman
I think it may be option 0, but can't remember.

The other, which is what I do if things really go amuch, is export the
MIDI of the track you've recorded, then edit it in QWS, which is a
free windows program availabel from andrelouis.com/qws, and then
re-import it.

It'll come up on a midi track. When you interact with that MIDI track
from the mix window, there's a thing that says "MIDI In", which you
can ignore, and then "MIDI Out", which you'll want to set to be the
instrument you want to use, which has to be inserted on a software
instrument list.

For these settings to be visible, you may or may not have to have
Instruments selected in your mix windows view in the view menu. I have
it on, but can't remember if it actually makes a difference or not.

HTH.

On 20/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
> Eric,
>
> I'll try it and get back and let you know.
>
> Chris.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eric Lambier" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: In dire need for Quantizing help.
>
>
> Hey Chris
>
> this is how I do it.
>
> I use control P or semi colon in the edit window to select a track. Control
>
> P held down will bring you to the first track either by holding it or
> pressing over and over. Control semi colon will bring you to the end of your
>
> track list. Note, this is a pro tools command so voice over says nothing!
>
> After selecting your track, use command A to select all.
>
> Go to event menu or I think the short cut is option 1 to open the quantize
> field.
>
> Go over to combine quantize and use VO space to drop it down. now using
> arrows ayou should hear which ;amount your quantizing. It automatically is
> set on 16th note. If you know that, you don't have to do anything but hit
> enter twice agter opening the quantize field.
>
> After selecting the amount to quantize hit enter once ort twice nad it
> should be quantized.
>
> Hope this helped!
>
> Eric
> On 2012-06-17, at 3:01 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>
>> I am just not! getting this!
>>
>> I have recorded a piano track using SPand 2 on a stereo instrument track.
>>
>> In my track list table, I made absolutely certained that the track was
>> selected, and it is.  I then selected the audio to be quantized, which in
>>
>> this case was the entire recording.  Once done, by hitting return, then
>> shift option end, I went to the event menu, tempo operations, then
>> quantize. I cannot figure out at this point what on earth I'm doing.  In
>> Sonar, I used to just be able to set my note value, say, I wanted to
>> quantize to a quarter note, or say to the value of an 8th note.  I'm
>> seeing nowhere to do this.  I see a popup menu that says quantize how, but
>>
>> I can't drop it opened with vo+Space, and routing the mouse then hitting
>> vo+shift+space doesn't seem to wanna do it either.  I know we can't really
>>
>> get at things like the strength, etc. but that's fine, for now at least,
>> but how do I, at least! specify an 8th note vs. a quarter, or half, etc.
>> etc.
>>
>> When I routed the mouse to apply, then clicked it with vo+shift+space,
>> just to be safe, then did num pad enter, followed by the qwerty return key
>>
>> to dismiss the quantize screen, I know, that may be a bit extreme, but
>> just to be safe... I heard absolutely no difference when just applying and
>>
>> accepting the default values which it looks like really is all I can do.
>> I have just enough of a hearing loss that for me, especially with drums, I
>>
>> tend to rush things a bit making me not very steady, so for me, if I'm
>> gonna quit using karaoke tracks and do my own music, quantizing is gonna
>> be escential! There's really no other way around it.
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>
>


-- 
Take care,

Chris Norman.




Re: Editing and comps

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Norman
Also, I think Kevin has a podcast about that on his webpage, that's
where I learned hehe.

On 20/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
> I'd be happy to help where I can.  Do you use Skype?
>
> Chris.
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Jon Solitro
>   To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:38 AM
>   Subject: Editing and comps
>
>
>   Does anyone have a lot of experience with editing audio, I believe it's
> called comps, i.e. taking the best parts of a few different takes? I'm
> getting into more of that and I wonder if someone would chat with me off
> list and explain their workflow so I can get more streamlined.
>
>
>   Thank you.


-- 
Take care,

Chris Norman.




Re: Mainstream Recording?

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Norman
Please, when you read this, note, I'm not saying anyone who's
responded to these messages is wrong, there's some great people who
know infinitely more about what they're talking about than I, but I'd
like to give the view of a hobbiest.

I have a studio in my spare bedroom, it's not professional in any way,
shape or form. I'm sure if anyone who turned up and knew their stuff,
they'd probably leave on a stretcher from laughing so hard, but, the
point is, it works for me.

I have spent a fair amount of money over the last couple of years
getting the stuff I wanted. I do not know what's good or bad, but I
followed the suggestions of people on this list, and others, and got
stuff which was affordable, and good.

With this stuff, I can get the sounds I want and rely upon. They might
not be radio quality, or up to the standard of Lianne Rhymes, or
anyone like that, but they work for me.

Judging by the stuff you've written Christopher, you're in a similar
situation to myself, you're just recording for fun, and you probably
don't want to do it seriously. Even if you do, I see no reason this
stuff, with some modifications, could get you a fairly decent recorded
sound, which you could sell to people.

Below is my gear list, as far as I know it. I'm actually not sure what
my monitors are, but they're MAudio somethings, and they were were
some £300 for the pair.

I'm using Pro Tools 10, running on a MacBook Pro. It's not the latest
one, but the one before that I think. I (stupidly), brought it about a
week before the new MacBook Pro with the Thunderbalt ports came out.
Off course I use a full sized apple keyboard, and, when I've saved up
all the money for my iMac, I'll be using the Magic Trackpad too, so I
can sit of my sofa to record, instead of cluttering up space I don't
have, with another chair.

I'm using a Euphonix Artist Mix control surface, and an MBox Pro
(which I find quite unstable with Pro Tools and Mac OS X 10.7.whatever
it is).

The monitors, as I said, are MAudio something or others, not really a clue.

I have 2 Rode NT-1A's, which I use for tracking both acoustic guitar,
and vocals.

For the rare times when I record amped electric guitars, I borrow a
pair of SM57's, which I went halves on with a friend of mine. For the
times I'm feeling lazy, and actually, I still love the sound, I use a
Vox something or other preamp, which my girlfriend and another friend
of mine brought me for my birthday.

My main guitar is a Faith acoustic, again, not sure of the model, but
it was supposed to sell for £512 or so, but I got it for about £400,
because the shop I got it from (Noise Works in Coventry, England), had
an offer on. My electric guitar is a Fender Blacktop, and I have a
Crafter (I think), fretted acoustic bass, and a Spector Electric bass,
which I've had for years, and never changed the strings on, so it's
got a lovely basy sound.

I am using an Axium 49 as my MIDI controler, but for one song, for
which I tracked the MIDI while on the road somewhere, I used an Akai
LPK24 or something, basically, a keyboard with 2 octave, bus powered.

I have no soundproofing of any kind, apart from a bed setty in my
studio (if that counts), and the house is fairly old, so it's got nice
thick walls.

I've also used an MAudio Mobile Pre, which I use to record my band
mate, who plays a Clavia NordStage 88, to save us the ball ache of
carrying the damn thing up the stairs.

I have absolutely no idea what my headphones are, but I brought them
from a PX in Germany, when I was visiting my uncle for like 130 EUR.

I could probably never achieve a totally dry sound in this room, but
luckily, I've never felt the need too. If I did want too however, I
could probably hang a quilt from the wall some how or something.

It is a very basic setup, probably costing somewhere in the region of
5 or 6 grand in total, but, as I said, this stuff has been collected
over a few years. The desc, the audio interface, my control surface
and monitors were all brought fairly recently, but the guitars I've
collected since I started playing when I was 6.

If you like, I can send you some of the stuff I've done, so you guys
who know you're doing can have a laugh at it, but my aim isn't to
become the next big star, my aim is to make and play music until the
day I die, and love every minute of it. If I make money off it in
return, more the better.

As far as setra software goes, I use AutoTune EFX from Antares to
pitch correct my vocals, as I'm not really a singer, and on the rare
occasions when I want digital harmonies, I use Harmony Engine EVo,
also from Antares EFX. I can use the latter to sort of simulate the
sound of the TC Helicon Voice Live 2 which I use live.

None of the leads are anything special, I'm using the leads which came
with the monitors, and the XLR's which came with the Rode. The rest of
the cables are bits I've cobbled together as I've gone along, there's
a Parana guitar cable which I use some times, and a bunch of standard
guitar leads, 

Re: Drawing a mental Blank on nudging

2012-06-21 Thread Slau Halatyn
To nudge a region, the region must be selected. Use the plus and minus keys on 
the numeric keypad. Plus moves the region to the right or later in the timeline 
and minus moves it to the left or earlier in the timeline. If there's no region 
selected, using the plus or minus keys will simply move the insertion point by 
the nudge value.

HTH,

Slau

On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> OK, guys, give me a break, it's early in the morning.  LOL!  I'm trying for 
> the life of me to remember how to nudge something left or right in a session. 
>  I mean, what's the keystroke, to do it?  I know you gotta first select the 
> audio to nudge, then split it with command e to a new region.  I just don't 
> remember after that what to hit to actually nudge it.  Also, I am right about 
> assuming you gotta select what you wanna nudge, right? Something doesn't 
> sound right about that logically, as why would you select something.  We're 
> not trying to modify a selection, we're just wanting it shoved to the right 
> or left a bit from a certain point in the session, so my logic says no, you 
> don't need to select it, but then another part of me says yeah, you do, 
> though I can't justify why.
> 
> Can someone give me a hand?  I'm also gonna pull out my second lesson I had 
> with Kevin that was recorded, as didn't we cover that briefly, kevin?  I kind 
> a remember we did on the outer core of things.
> 
> Chris.
> 



Drawing a mental Blank on nudging

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, guys, give me a break, it's early in the morning.  LOL!  I'm trying for 
the life of me to remember how to nudge something left or right in a 
session.  I mean, what's the keystroke, to do it?  I know you gotta first 
select the audio to nudge, then split it with command e to a new region.  I 
just don't remember after that what to hit to actually nudge it.  Also, I am 
right about assuming you gotta select what you wanna nudge, right? 
Something doesn't sound right about that logically, as why would you select 
something.  We're not trying to modify a selection, we're just wanting it 
shoved to the right or left a bit from a certain point in the session, so my 
logic says no, you don't need to select it, but then another part of me says 
yeah, you do, though I can't justify why.


Can someone give me a hand?  I'm also gonna pull out my second lesson I had 
with Kevin that was recorded, as didn't we cover that briefly, kevin?  I 
kind a remember we did on the outer core of things.


Chris.



Re: Please tell me there's an auto-Save feature!

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I guess, Nick, my only concern is, can I remember how I processed the vocals 
to get such a great sound?  I think I can, for what it's worth, but will 
have to see, as I'll bet those audio files probably have, as you said, the 
raw vocal, not the processed version.  Right?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Nick Gawronski" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Please tell me there's an auto-Save feature!


Hi, it is called session file auto backups and I myself turned it off as I 
always hit command and s to save something after recording so don't have 
to be to consearnd.  The audio files folder however does store the raw wav 
files that you record so even if you had a system crash the recording 
itself would still exist.  Nick Gawronski


On 6/20/2012 9:55 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote:
Look in your session file backups folder inside your session. You'll see 
a ton of files in there. choose the one that has the most recent date on 
it. That may or may not contain your latest track. It's just a gamble on 
whether or not it auto backed up after you recorded the track. But that's 
where you'll always find your session backups.


Kevin







Re: Please tell me there's an auto-Save feature!

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

You know?

That's actually not a half bad idea.  I'll look to see.

BTW, I hope that you don't take offense to me asking this, but I'm just 
curious as I've been getting a fair amount of help lately from you on list. 
Just so I can properly address you, what exactly is your real actual name?


I know you go by the Oreo Monster, but, call me weird, I just like to have 
an actual name to place with peole.  It just helps me when making friends. 
Maybe I'm just weird...


LOL!

Anyway, these all're great suggestions.  I'll give them a shot.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "The Oreo Monster" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Please tell me there's an auto-Save feature!


even if it wasn't auto saved, which by the way there is an auto save 
feature, its in preferences  don't remember which tab though, the audio file 
should be in the audio files folder for the project. So if it wasn't auto 
saved, go to the  project folder on your recording drive  and find the audio 
files folder and then you can import that file or files into a new protools 
project.

The Oreo Monster
monkeypushe...@gmail.com



On Jun 20, 2012, at 10:26 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


So, I just had my worst moment.  I did a track, and oh, my, God!  It was 
flawless!  I mean, I literally almost never have gotten my sound so crisp, 
and balanced!  Oh, it, was, fuh frickin, nomenal!  I go to bounce it, and, 
I dono why, but, kuh, boom!  ProTools totally sh***s the bed, and quits 
unexpectedly.  Oh, I darn near cried.  (Notl literally, obviously, LOL!) 
I hadn't done a save!  so now, all that work, down? the drain!  Boy? did I 
learn my! lesson!  Sheesh oh mothers!  Anyway, going forward, is there an 
auto-Save function that every few minutes will save my session?  I often 
forget to save at the most critical moments, then wind up getting... 
well... um... yeah, you get the idea, no need to throw the past tense of 
the f bomb. LOL!  Oh, I feel now like such an idiot!  I can't believe i 
forgot to save!


I guess unfortunately, there is no way we can check if that thing somehow 
did get saved?  I highly doubt it did.


Chris.




Re: Please tell me there's an auto-Save feature!

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

OK Kevin, thank you.,  I'll have a look.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Reeves" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: Please tell me there's an auto-Save feature!


Look in your session file backups folder inside your session. You'll see a 
ton of files in there. choose the one that has the most recent date on it. 
That may or may not contain your latest track. It's just a gamble on whether 
or not it auto backed up after you recorded the track. But that's where 
you'll always find your session backups.


Kevin=