RE: Good control surfaces
Yea, let me know, would be great to find out -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Katie Zodrow Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Good control surfaces Hi, Jed. I'm not sure if JL Cooper makes this model anymore. I can find out maybe on their website and let you know. Katie - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: RE: Good control surfaces > That's awesome. > I've ehard a lot about the JL cooper, do they still make it? > > -Original Message- > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Katie Zodrow > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:25 PM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Good control surfaces > > Hi, Jed and everyone else on the list. My name is Katie Zodrow. > I've used the JL Cooper CS10 and the MCS3800 control surfaces with > ProTools in the past. I think I used the CS 10 when I took a ProTools > class 9 years ago at Berklee College of Music in Boston. I graduated > from there in May of 2004. In 2006 for about a year, I was a phone > reservation agent at the Mariot call center booking their hotels. From > 2007 to December last year, I worked at a call center for Walt Disney > Travel company booking reservations and travel packages for the > Disneyland resort over the phone. I quit my job in December at Disney > because after 5 years there, I wasn't being challenged enough and > doing travel reservations wasn't what I was passionate about. > I > feel like I'm definitely more passionate about doing something with > music or digital audio recording. So I want to go back and work in the > music industry either at a recording studio doing video description or > go into piano tuning. Its been about 9 years since I've used the Mac > and ProTools and I'm excited to get started! Right now, I'm currently > renting a Mac with OS > 10.6 > for a few months and am working on learning to use Voiceover. I will > be learning ProTools after this, so I'm pretty much new to this again > with OS 10. > Katie > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:39 PM > Subject: Good control surfaces > > >> Hey gang, >> >> I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? >> I >> like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for >> plugging in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the >> scrub wheel thing would rock. >> >> Thanks,Jed >> >> -- >> >> > > -- > > -- --
Re: Good control surfaces
Hi, Jed. I'm not sure if JL Cooper makes this model anymore. I can find out maybe on their website and let you know. Katie - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: RE: Good control surfaces That's awesome. I've ehard a lot about the JL cooper, do they still make it? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Katie Zodrow Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:25 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Good control surfaces Hi, Jed and everyone else on the list. My name is Katie Zodrow. I've used the JL Cooper CS10 and the MCS3800 control surfaces with ProTools in the past. I think I used the CS 10 when I took a ProTools class 9 years ago at Berklee College of Music in Boston. I graduated from there in May of 2004. In 2006 for about a year, I was a phone reservation agent at the Mariot call center booking their hotels. From 2007 to December last year, I worked at a call center for Walt Disney Travel company booking reservations and travel packages for the Disneyland resort over the phone. I quit my job in December at Disney because after 5 years there, I wasn't being challenged enough and doing travel reservations wasn't what I was passionate about. I feel like I'm definitely more passionate about doing something with music or digital audio recording. So I want to go back and work in the music industry either at a recording studio doing video description or go into piano tuning. Its been about 9 years since I've used the Mac and ProTools and I'm excited to get started! Right now, I'm currently renting a Mac with OS 10.6 for a few months and am working on learning to use Voiceover. I will be learning ProTools after this, so I'm pretty much new to this again with OS 10. Katie - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:39 PM Subject: Good control surfaces Hey gang, I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? I like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for plugging in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the scrub wheel thing would rock. Thanks,Jed -- -- --
RE: Good control surfaces
Do they still make the JL cooper? I've ehard of it before, any specific model number? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:40 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Good control surfaces Hi Katie, Welcome to the list. Glad to have you here. Yes, the MCS3800 is a nice surface and could probably be found on the used market for a low price. I'd probably stay away from the CS10 because it doesn't have moving faders and, while it's OK for a sighted user, I think the touch-sensitive 3800 is much more effective. Thanks for reminded us of the JL Cooper stuff. Cheers, Slau On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Katie Zodrow wrote: > Hi, Jed and everyone else on the list. My name is Katie Zodrow. > I've used the JL Cooper CS10 and the MCS3800 control surfaces with ProTools in the past. I think I used the CS 10 when I took a ProTools class 9 years ago at Berklee College of Music in Boston. I graduated from there in May of 2004. In 2006 for about a year, I was a phone reservation agent at the Mariot call center booking their hotels. From 2007 to December last year, I worked at a call center for Walt Disney Travel company booking reservations and travel packages for the Disneyland resort over the phone. I quit my job in December at Disney because after 5 years there, I wasn't being challenged enough and doing travel reservations wasn't what I was passionate about. I feel like I'm definitely more passionate about doing something with music or digital audio recording. So I want to go back and work in the music industry either at a recording studio doing video description or go into piano tuning. Its been about 9 years since I've used the Mac and ProTools and I'm excited to get started! Right now, I'm currently renting a Mac with OS 10.6 for a few months and am working on learning to use Voiceover. I will be learning ProTools after this, so I'm pretty much new to this again with OS 10. > Katie > > - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:39 PM > Subject: Good control surfaces > > >> Hey gang, >> >> I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good >> ones? I like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and >> out for plugging in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I >> think the scrub wheel thing would rock. >> >> Thanks,Jed >> >> -- >> >> > > -- > > -- --
RE: Good control surfaces
That's awesome. I've ehard a lot about the JL cooper, do they still make it? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Katie Zodrow Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:25 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Good control surfaces Hi, Jed and everyone else on the list. My name is Katie Zodrow. I've used the JL Cooper CS10 and the MCS3800 control surfaces with ProTools in the past. I think I used the CS 10 when I took a ProTools class 9 years ago at Berklee College of Music in Boston. I graduated from there in May of 2004. In 2006 for about a year, I was a phone reservation agent at the Mariot call center booking their hotels. From 2007 to December last year, I worked at a call center for Walt Disney Travel company booking reservations and travel packages for the Disneyland resort over the phone. I quit my job in December at Disney because after 5 years there, I wasn't being challenged enough and doing travel reservations wasn't what I was passionate about. I feel like I'm definitely more passionate about doing something with music or digital audio recording. So I want to go back and work in the music industry either at a recording studio doing video description or go into piano tuning. Its been about 9 years since I've used the Mac and ProTools and I'm excited to get started! Right now, I'm currently renting a Mac with OS 10.6 for a few months and am working on learning to use Voiceover. I will be learning ProTools after this, so I'm pretty much new to this again with OS 10. Katie - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:39 PM Subject: Good control surfaces > Hey gang, > > I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? I > like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for > plugging > in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the scrub wheel > thing > would rock. > > Thanks,Jed > > -- > > --
Re: Good control surfaces
Hi Katie, Welcome to the list. Glad to have you here. Yes, the MCS3800 is a nice surface and could probably be found on the used market for a low price. I'd probably stay away from the CS10 because it doesn't have moving faders and, while it's OK for a sighted user, I think the touch-sensitive 3800 is much more effective. Thanks for reminded us of the JL Cooper stuff. Cheers, Slau On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Katie Zodrow wrote: > Hi, Jed and everyone else on the list. My name is Katie Zodrow. > I've used the JL Cooper CS10 and the MCS3800 control surfaces with ProTools > in the past. I think I used the CS 10 when I took a ProTools class 9 years > ago at Berklee College of Music in Boston. I graduated from there in May of > 2004. In 2006 for about a year, I was a phone reservation agent at the Mariot > call center booking their hotels. From 2007 to December last year, I worked > at a call center for Walt Disney Travel company booking reservations and > travel packages for the Disneyland resort over the phone. I quit my job in > December at Disney because after 5 years there, I wasn't being challenged > enough and doing travel reservations wasn't what I was passionate about. I > feel like I'm definitely more passionate about doing something with music or > digital audio recording. So I want to go back and work in the music industry > either at a recording studio doing video description or go into piano tuning. > Its been about 9 years since I've used the Mac and ProTools and I'm excited > to get started! Right now, I'm currently renting a Mac with OS 10.6 for a > few months and am working on learning to use Voiceover. I will be learning > ProTools after this, so I'm pretty much new to this again with OS 10. > Katie > > - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:39 PM > Subject: Good control surfaces > > >> Hey gang, >> >> I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? I >> like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for >> plugging >> in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the scrub wheel >> thing >> would rock. >> >> Thanks,Jed >> >> -- >> >> > > -- > > --
Re: Good control surfaces
Hi, Jed and everyone else on the list. My name is Katie Zodrow. I've used the JL Cooper CS10 and the MCS3800 control surfaces with ProTools in the past. I think I used the CS 10 when I took a ProTools class 9 years ago at Berklee College of Music in Boston. I graduated from there in May of 2004. In 2006 for about a year, I was a phone reservation agent at the Mariot call center booking their hotels. From 2007 to December last year, I worked at a call center for Walt Disney Travel company booking reservations and travel packages for the Disneyland resort over the phone. I quit my job in December at Disney because after 5 years there, I wasn't being challenged enough and doing travel reservations wasn't what I was passionate about. I feel like I'm definitely more passionate about doing something with music or digital audio recording. So I want to go back and work in the music industry either at a recording studio doing video description or go into piano tuning. Its been about 9 years since I've used the Mac and ProTools and I'm excited to get started! Right now, I'm currently renting a Mac with OS 10.6 for a few months and am working on learning to use Voiceover. I will be learning ProTools after this, so I'm pretty much new to this again with OS 10. Katie - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:39 PM Subject: Good control surfaces Hey gang, I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? I like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for plugging in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the scrub wheel thing would rock. Thanks,Jed -- --
Re: Key command to show tracks with data?
Thanks again. I am learning that it is give and take when going back and forth between two DAWS. Some stuff I like about Sonar better and some stuff I like about PT better. Right now I just want to give PT a fare shot so I am trying to finish the rest of this next projects tracking, and mixing all in PT so that I can get more used to the workflow. Both Sonar and PT seem to be in a crusial point right now as far as accesibility, Sonar has not had a fully accessibil platform since 8.5 and they are on x2 now and PT seems to be wavering on some features sence 9 series from what I can tell. I am trying to keep my finger on the pulse of both as they progress through their vallies. Thanks again - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data? For a scripted screen reader, that's a nice feature for feedback. I suppose that kind of thing is important if you use pre-configured templates and don't use all the tracks. I never use templates and personally feel they lock you in too early on. Unless one really tends to do the exact same same type of session every time, I feel they are actually a waste of time. I've never done the same type of session twice with the exception, perhaps of a soloist with piano accompaniment. In any case, it's elementary to create as many tracks as one needs in a matter of seconds. I tend not to track with plug-ins and setting up headphone routings is easy. I'm sure there are folks on the list who will swear that templates are the only way to go. I won't argue because there's no point. I know what works for me and for most of my colleagues and, as they say, to each, his own. Oh, bTW, when I was referring to those steps with tabbing and checking counters, one thing to remember is, if the track display is set to show something other than waveform like volume, pan or mute, etc., tabbing will propel the insertion point to the next such event like a mute on or mute off. So, if there are no other events like volume automation and such, tabbing won't move to any region boundaries as it does when waveforms are being displayed. Just something to keep in mind. That burned me once. best, Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: It does help and I will stick this message in my PT folder for a reference. You see in Sonar, I may start off with 24 tracks and get lazey and not name them as I go along, but there is an alert as you move to any track that says, "Has Data" or "No Data". I just have to be more aware of what tracks I have used and not be lazy when it comes to naming them. Thanks - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data? Hi Nate, Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the Edit window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what you can do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd consider these steps increasing in verification: 1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track while the transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most straight-forward way. 2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, press the Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads anything other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something resides in the track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the session or further in, go to the start of the session and press Control-Shift-Tab and look at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that means there's a clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it reads zero, the first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to the beginning of the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to and select the first clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see where the clip resides by reading the counter display. Hope that helps, Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks have any data? Thanks Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com -- -- --
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Krister, the 003 is both a control surface and an interface in one unit. The MBox is just an interface alone. Depending on which MBox you have, it's probably just a FireWire port. Various control surfaces out there would either be USB, MIDI or Ethernet. Most likely, you'll encounter either USB or MIDI. Slau On Jan 27, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > So, if i get a control surface, the MBox isn't needed at all, right? I looked > at the pricing of the Digi003 Factory fader and it was way way over my budget > with a 5 figure price tag in Swedish crowns. > /Krister > > 27 jan 2013 kl. 19:31 skrev Slau Halatyn : > >> In the case of most interfaces, they have MIDI ports built in. In the cases >> where there is no MIDI implementation, you'll need some type of USB MIDI >> interface like anything from M-Audio. For keyboards, depending on the >> controller, they might have a USB interface or MIDI or both. >> >> Slau >> >> On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I >>> bought myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi >>> keyboard and the mixer/control surface? >>> /Krister >>> >>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" : >>> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport controls, pay, stop, etc? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite helpful. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: > I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. > HTH > - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM > Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? > > >> Hey J. R., >> >> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, >> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: >> >>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the >>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have >>> been under the time gun. LOL >>> >>> J. R. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] >>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM >>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >>> >>> Krister, >>> >>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not >>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps >>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. >>> >>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind >>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients >>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but >>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited >>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine >>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting >>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. >>> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader >>> gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without >>> a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing >>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi Slau, Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have >>> to live with that. smiles. Q
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Hi, So, if i get a control surface, the MBox isn't needed at all, right? I looked at the pricing of the Digi003 Factory fader and it was way way over my budget with a 5 figure price tag in Swedish crowns. /Krister 27 jan 2013 kl. 19:31 skrev Slau Halatyn : > In the case of most interfaces, they have MIDI ports built in. In the cases > where there is no MIDI implementation, you'll need some type of USB MIDI > interface like anything from M-Audio. For keyboards, depending on the > controller, they might have a USB interface or MIDI or both. > > Slau > > On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, >> All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I bought >> myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard and >> the mixer/control surface? >> /Krister >> >> 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" : >> >>> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport >>> controls, pay, stop, etc? >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Slau Halatyn >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM >>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >>> >>> And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it >>> includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite >>> helpful. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: >>> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on >>> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control >>> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the >>> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as >>> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. >>> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. >>> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. HTH - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? > Hey J. R., > > Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, > there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: > >> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the >> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have >> been under the time gun. LOL >> >> J. R. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] >> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM >> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind >>> person? >> >> Krister, >> >> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not >> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps >> others who have recently researched this can contribute some >>> suggestions. >> >> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind >> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients >> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but >> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited >> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine >> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting >> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. >> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader >> gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without >> a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing >> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of >>> course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. >> >> Slau >> >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> Hi Slau, >>> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess >>> you'll have >> to live with that. smiles. >>> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if >>> need >> be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what >> would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record >> and so on, would that at all be practical? >>> /Krister >>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : >>> Hi Krister, A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control >> surface. If you plan to do any
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
On Sun, January 27, 2013 5:11 am, Poppa Bear wrote: > Typicly you would run your control surface into your mac via fire wire and > most new midi keyboards are USB, and the keyboards USB would run into a > USB > port on the Mac as well. > - Original Message - > From: "Krister Ekstrom" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:26 AM > Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? > > > Hi, > All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I > bought > myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard > and > the mixer/control surface? > /Krister > > 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" : > >> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like >> transport >> controls, pay, stop, etc? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf >> Of Slau Halatyn >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM >> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind >> person? >> >> And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it >> includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite >> helpful. >> >> Slau >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: >> >>> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things >>> on >> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a >> control >> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the >> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry >> level, >> as >> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 >> mixers. >> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. >> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. >>> HTH >>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM >>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind >>> person? >>> >>> Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: > I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the > situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have > been under the time gun. LOL > > J. R. > > > -Original Message- > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] > On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind >> person? > > Krister, > > I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not > followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps > others who have recently researched this can contribute some >> suggestions. > > As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind > user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients > and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but > I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited > to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine > working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting > in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. > Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader > gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without > a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing > whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, > of >> course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other >> way. > > Slau > > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi Slau, >> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess >> you'll have > to live with that. smiles. >> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if >> need > be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what > would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record > and so on, would that at all be practical? >> /Krister >> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : >> >>> Hi Krister, >>> >>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control > surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible > to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to > mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be > able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, > unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple tra
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
In the case of most interfaces, they have MIDI ports built in. In the cases where there is no MIDI implementation, you'll need some type of USB MIDI interface like anything from M-Audio. For keyboards, depending on the controller, they might have a USB interface or MIDI or both. Slau On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I bought > myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard and > the mixer/control surface? > /Krister > > 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" : > >> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport >> controls, pay, stop, etc? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Slau Halatyn >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM >> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >> >> And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it >> includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite >> helpful. >> >> Slau >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: >> >>> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on >> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control >> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the >> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as >> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. >> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. >> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. >>> HTH >>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM >>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >>> >>> Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: > I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the > situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have > been under the time gun. LOL > > J. R. > > > -Original Message- > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] > On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind >> person? > > Krister, > > I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not > followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps > others who have recently researched this can contribute some >> suggestions. > > As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind > user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients > and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but > I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited > to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine > working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting > in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. > Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader > gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without > a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing > whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of >> course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. > > Slau > > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi Slau, >> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess >> you'll have > to live with that. smiles. >> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if >> need > be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what > would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record > and so on, would that at all be practical? >> /Krister >> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : >> >>> Hi Krister, >>> >>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control > surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible > to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to > mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be > able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, > unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> On Jan 26, 201
Re: Key command to show tracks with data?
Yes, that's a sure way to know. One thing to consider is that, if there are underlying playlists with data, the topmost playlist might not actually contain anything and one would still get that dialog. In other words, there's an exception to be aware of in this case. barring the playlist variable, deleting the track would most certainly bring up the dialog warning about active regions. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Chris Norman wrote: > Another slightly dirty way to do it, if you've got an audio track with > data on it, a MIDI track with MIDI on it, etc, is right click it in > the track table and go to delete. If it's got stuff on it, it'll ask > you to confirm. I suspect it's undoable if not, but I'm not sure. > > HTH, > > On 26/01/2013, Poppa Bear wrote: >> It does help and I will stick this message in my PT folder for a reference. >> You see in Sonar, I may start off with 24 tracks and get lazey and not name >> them as I go along, but there is an alert as you move to any track that >> says, "Has Data" or "No Data". I just have to be more aware of what tracks I >> have used and not be lazy when it comes to naming them. >> Thanks >> - Original Message - >> From: Slau Halatyn >> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:24 PM >> Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data? >> >> >> Hi Nate, >> >> >> Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the Edit >> window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what you >> can do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd >> consider these steps increasing in verification: >> 1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track while >> the transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most >> straight-forward way. >> 2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, press >> the Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads >> anything other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something resides >> in the track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the session >> or further in, go to the start of the session and press Control-Shift-Tab >> and look at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that means >> there's a clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it reads >> zero, the first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to the >> beginning of the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to and >> select the first clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see where >> the clip resides by reading the counter display. >> >> >> Hope that helps, >> >> >> Slau >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: >> >> >>Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks have >> any data? >>Thanks >>Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, >> Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> > > > -- > Take care, > > Chris Norman. > > --
Re: Key command to show tracks with data?
For a scripted screen reader, that's a nice feature for feedback. I suppose that kind of thing is important if you use pre-configured templates and don't use all the tracks. I never use templates and personally feel they lock you in too early on. Unless one really tends to do the exact same same type of session every time, I feel they are actually a waste of time. I've never done the same type of session twice with the exception, perhaps of a soloist with piano accompaniment. In any case, it's elementary to create as many tracks as one needs in a matter of seconds. I tend not to track with plug-ins and setting up headphone routings is easy. I'm sure there are folks on the list who will swear that templates are the only way to go. I won't argue because there's no point. I know what works for me and for most of my colleagues and, as they say, to each, his own. Oh, bTW, when I was referring to those steps with tabbing and checking counters, one thing to remember is, if the track display is set to show something other than waveform like volume, pan or mute, etc., tabbing will propel the insertion point to the next such event like a mute on or mute off. So, if there are no other events like volume automation and such, tabbing won't move to any region boundaries as it does when waveforms are being displayed. Just something to keep in mind. That burned me once. best, Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: > It does help and I will stick this message in my PT folder for a reference. > You see in Sonar, I may start off with 24 tracks and get lazey and not name > them as I go along, but there is an alert as you move to any track that > says, "Has Data" or "No Data". I just have to be more aware of what tracks I > have used and not be lazy when it comes to naming them. > Thanks > - Original Message - > From: Slau Halatyn > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data? > > Hi Nate, > > Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the Edit > window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what you can > do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd consider > these steps increasing in verification: > 1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track while the > transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most > straight-forward way. > 2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, press the > Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads anything > other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something resides in the > track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the session or > further in, go to the start of the session and press Control-Shift-Tab and > look at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that means > there's a clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it reads > zero, the first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to the > beginning of the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to and > select the first clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see where > the clip resides by reading the counter display. > > Hope that helps, > > Slau > > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: > >> Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks have any >> data? >> Thanks >> Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering >> and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com > > > -- > > --
Re: Key command to show tracks with data?
No worries. If you can use the others, you're probably best off doing that, I'm just a creature of habbit, and when I was learning, that was the most ifficient way I found to make the magic happen! Have fun, On 27/01/2013, Poppa Bear wrote: > Thank you for that tip as well Chris. > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Norman" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:03 PM > Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data? > > >> Another slightly dirty way to do it, if you've got an audio track with >> data on it, a MIDI track with MIDI on it, etc, is right click it in >> the track table and go to delete. If it's got stuff on it, it'll ask >> you to confirm. I suspect it's undoable if not, but I'm not sure. >> >> HTH, >> >> On 26/01/2013, Poppa Bear wrote: >>> It does help and I will stick this message in my PT folder for a >>> reference. >>> You see in Sonar, I may start off with 24 tracks and get lazey and not >>> name >>> them as I go along, but there is an alert as you move to any track that >>> says, "Has Data" or "No Data". I just have to be more aware of what >>> tracks I >>> have used and not be lazy when it comes to naming them. >>> Thanks >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Slau Halatyn >>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:24 PM >>> Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data? >>> >>> >>> Hi Nate, >>> >>> >>> Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the >>> Edit >>> window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what >>> you >>> can do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd >>> consider these steps increasing in verification: >>> 1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track >>> while >>> the transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most >>> straight-forward way. >>> 2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, >>> press >>> the Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads >>> anything other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something >>> resides >>> in the track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the >>> session >>> or further in, go to the start of the session and press >>> Control-Shift-Tab >>> and look at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that >>> means >>> there's a clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it >>> reads >>> zero, the first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to >>> >>> the >>> beginning of the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to >>> and >>> select the first clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see >>> where >>> the clip resides by reading the counter display. >>> >>> >>> Hope that helps, >>> >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: >>> >>> >>> Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks >>> have >>> any data? >>> Thanks >>> Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, >>> Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Take care, >> >> Chris Norman. >> >> > > -- > > > -- Take care, Chris Norman.
Re: Good control surfaces
I believe that the Project mix is M-audio. - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:01 PM Subject: RE: Good control surfaces Wow cool, who makes that? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Norman Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:00 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Good control surfaces I'm using the Project Mix I/O. Like the Digi003 (I think), it has 8 mic pre amps. I've not got the transport bar to work, but then I haven't tried with it much. I'm using it as both control surface, and sound module, and I think it's great. It also has the advantage of being cheap. However, it's been running for years, and hasn't got a single problem, so I'm guessing it's built to last! :-) Have fun, On 27/01/2013, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, Not sure of the maker if you do searches for digi 003 or go to a professional audio electronics store like the guitar center you should be able to find out all you need to know. If you are going to school like me then asking your instructors or other classmates would also be a good option. I find taking audio classes helps a lot in learning about the best methods for recording and placing microphones as I was told if you have a degree in audio engineering from a school even if you don't want to do this as a full time job it sure helps to learn from professionals who know what they are doing and have years of doing recording and mixing skills. That is by no means the only usable control surface but I like it because the moving controls as it really helps me set levels. Nick Gawronski Jed Barton wrote: Who makes it, digidesign? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Good control surfaces Hi, I have the digi 003 which you can still find on line. It has 8 sliding up and down controls which move with pro tools so you can feel your levels. I like it for a new pro tools user. My digi 003 came in a box wrapped up and all. It can record in 24 bit 96 KHZ so it is a good system and some studios still use them so it is a good system for both the new and advanced user and has a control where if you have more then 8 tracks you can cycle between the tracks in banks of 8. I was at the guitar center store and they had one on display and found one on line that they were able to ship directly to my house and I always like to feel a device before I buy it. You will need to install the drivers for the device once you get it or even before you get it you can download them and I would also suggest if pro tools prompts you to upgrade the firmware on the device you do so to avoid any issues in the future. Nick Gawronski Jed Barton wrote: Hey gang, I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? I like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for plugging in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the scrub wheel thing would rock. Thanks,Jed -- -- -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. --
Re: Key command to show tracks with data?
Thank you for that tip as well Chris. - Original Message - From: "Chris Norman" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data? Another slightly dirty way to do it, if you've got an audio track with data on it, a MIDI track with MIDI on it, etc, is right click it in the track table and go to delete. If it's got stuff on it, it'll ask you to confirm. I suspect it's undoable if not, but I'm not sure. HTH, On 26/01/2013, Poppa Bear wrote: It does help and I will stick this message in my PT folder for a reference. You see in Sonar, I may start off with 24 tracks and get lazey and not name them as I go along, but there is an alert as you move to any track that says, "Has Data" or "No Data". I just have to be more aware of what tracks I have used and not be lazy when it comes to naming them. Thanks - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data? Hi Nate, Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the Edit window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what you can do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd consider these steps increasing in verification: 1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track while the transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most straight-forward way. 2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, press the Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads anything other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something resides in the track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the session or further in, go to the start of the session and press Control-Shift-Tab and look at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that means there's a clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it reads zero, the first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to the beginning of the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to and select the first clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see where the clip resides by reading the counter display. Hope that helps, Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks have any data? Thanks Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. --
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Typicly you would run your control surface into your mac via fire wire and most new midi keyboards are USB, and the keyboards USB would run into a USB port on the Mac as well. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:26 AM Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Hi, All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I bought myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard and the mixer/control surface? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" : Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport controls, pay, stop, etc? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite helpful. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. HTH - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time gun. LOL J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi Slau, Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to live with that. smiles. Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : Hi Krister, A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm s
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Hi, All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I bought myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard and the mixer/control surface? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" : > Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport > controls, pay, stop, etc? > > -Original Message- > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Slau Halatyn > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? > > And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it > includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite > helpful. > > Slau > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: > >> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on > the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control > surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the > Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as > a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. > You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. > Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. >> HTH >> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM >> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >> >> >>> Hey J. R., >>> >>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, >>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: >>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time gun. LOL J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind > person? Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some > suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of > course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi Slau, > Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess > you'll have to live with that. smiles. > Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if > need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? > /Krister > 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : > >> Hi Krister, >> >> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. >> >> Slau >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: >> >>> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. >>> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your >>> intent for protools. >>> >>> >>> Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple >>> keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is
