transfuser and strike

2014-01-10 Thread chad baker
hi i’m wondering if any part of transfuser is accessible to us
i heard a sample of it on youtube and liked it
i do remixing 
also can we access preset kits in strike
thanks

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Re: Accessibility pt10.3.8 vs pt11.1

2014-01-10 Thread matt diemert
Hi Slau,
In a previous message in this thread, you mentioned that the AAX plugs
were some what accessible in 10.3.8.  I had an instance last night
working on someones rig that was running this build, and I just pulled
up the 7 band EQ that is standard kit in Pro Tools. When navigating
the plug, voice over stopped at the automation settings button and
would not go down any further in to the actual EQ settings. Was I
doing something wrong, or, are the AAX plugs hit and miss in the
10.3.8 build. It's not a big deal as I can take everything home when
we're done working, but it'd be nice to throw some basic EQ in after
tracking something.
Thanks.

On 1/8/14, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Slau,
 Glad that the aax is accessible with pt10 to a certain degree. It's time
 for me to convince school to update to Mavericks along with pt11!

 Chi

 On 1/6/2014 1:16 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Hi Chi,

 OK, I've had a chance to review and refresh my memory of the issues of 10
 versus 11. Upon review, version 11 really contains all of the
 improvements. The only substantive improvement that version 10 has is
 mainly the accessibility of the counters and AAX plug-ins. Regarding the
 counters, that could quite possibly be because of Mavericks versus
 Mountain Lion. It's been 8 months since I tried version 11 on Mountain
 Lion and there were a load of problems, not the least of which was the
 counter display issue. So, with version 10.3.8, the counters are readable
 but, whether that's because of Mavericks or not, I can't say for sure as
 I've been on Mavericks since the bulk of the accessibility work started.

 regarding plug-ins, the AAX plug-ins are accessible for the most part in
 version 10 but not in the same way as they are in 11. In a pinch, I was
 able to use some plug-ins for an emergency after my beta license for 11
 ran out. iLok License Manager not yet being accessible, my only choice at
 the time was to use version 10 for which I had purchased a license back
 before the License Manager was introduced.

 So, with those two mentionable improvements but not much else that I can
 tell at a cursory glance, the focus is really on 11.

 Hope that helps,

 Slau

 On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Slau,

 Thanks for the explanation.
 I was just wondering how much accessibility improvement in 11 was
 included in 10.3.8 as well.
 Regardless, I'm looking forward to upgrading to 11!

 Chi

 On 1/5/2014 12:27 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Hi Chi,

 Yes, there is a difference. The focus on accessibility in the future
 will be on version 11. There were improvements to 10.3.8 for sure but it
 was not the primary concentration. From now on, any updates to version
 10 will be general maintenance and will not likely include significant
 improvements to accessibility. Much like bug fixes in other software,
 it's not expected that the developer will go back to previous versions
 of the software to fix the problem. The point is that it's fixed in the
 new version and that's it. In this situation, however, there are still
 people needing to use version 10 during the transition from 32 to 64 bit
 and while plug-in developers are pulling up the rear. I was surprised at
 how much was actually done in 10.3.8 to begin with.

 BTW, one task that is still only doable in 10 and not 11 is to create a
 custom nudge value. In 11, a VoiceOver user can only choose from the
 default values whereas in 10 they can click a button, type a value and
 be done. In neither version is the numeric value visible. Surely, it'll
 be fixed in 11 at some point but I doubt it'll be addressed in 10.

 Best,

 Slau


 On Jan 5, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 First Slau, congratulation on this milestone! Thank you for making this
 happen!
 Is there any difference in accessibility between pt10.3.8 vs pt11.1?
 Thanks,

 Chi

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Re: Clearing solo for all tracks.

2014-01-10 Thread matt diemert
Poppa, As far as I'm able to tell, the only way to solo safe a track
is to physically click the solo button in track strip while holding
down command. In other words, when I'm on the solo button, I press
voiceover command f5 to bring mouse focus to the button, and while
holding down command, click on my mouse.

In regards to the other question, I typically keep my solo on xhor so
that my solo follows what ever track is selected, if I need to sol up
ultiple things I make my selection across those tracks first then
solo.
Hope this helps.

On 1/10/14, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't want to highjack your post, but I am wondering something about
 soloing as well, is there a shortcut key command to put tracks on safe solo
 mode?
   - Original Message -
   From: studiojay
   To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:42 PM
   Subject: Clearing solo for all tracks.


   Hi everyone, is there a way to clear solos for all tracks in a session?
 Some times, I may have a track soloed and I can't remember which track it is
 especially in large sessions and the soloed track may not be playing at the
 posision in the session I am currently playing. I have to go through each
 track to find the soloed track. Thanks in advance for any help. Jason

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Re: Clearing solo for all tracks.

2014-01-10 Thread Scott Chesworth
Think hiding all tracks would clear solo, although probably a last resort.

Isn't there a modifier that inverts selection too? That'd get the
workflow down to a couple of clicks. I'm not in front of PT to find
it, anyone know what I'm on about?

Scott

On 1/10/14, matt diemert mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Poppa, As far as I'm able to tell, the only way to solo safe a track
 is to physically click the solo button in track strip while holding
 down command. In other words, when I'm on the solo button, I press
 voiceover command f5 to bring mouse focus to the button, and while
 holding down command, click on my mouse.

 In regards to the other question, I typically keep my solo on xhor so
 that my solo follows what ever track is selected, if I need to sol up
 ultiple things I make my selection across those tracks first then
 solo.
 Hope this helps.

 On 1/10/14, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't want to highjack your post, but I am wondering something about
 soloing as well, is there a shortcut key command to put tracks on safe
 solo
 mode?
   - Original Message -
   From: studiojay
   To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:42 PM
   Subject: Clearing solo for all tracks.


   Hi everyone, is there a way to clear solos for all tracks in a session?
 Some times, I may have a track soloed and I can't remember which track it
 is
 especially in large sessions and the soloed track may not be playing at
 the
 posision in the session I am currently playing. I have to go through each
 track to find the soloed track. Thanks in advance for any help. Jason

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Re: avid download manager

2014-01-10 Thread Slau Halatyn
I've never gotten the download manager to work for me. I always just click the 
link and it works just fine as a normal download in Safari.

Slau

On Jan 9, 2014, at 10:17 PM, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I tried it but error I needed JAVA installed which I do.
 
 I clicked hear to ddownload which is a normal download.
 
 I am afraid if one uses the manager it would be like using a dialup 
 connection.  smile
 
 
 On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote:
 
 Hi:
 Do any of you use Avid’s download manager when downloading Pro tools or plug 
 ins or whatever?  I downloaded the PT 11.1 installer without using the 
 download manager on windows with IE and got transfer rates of over 3 mhz a 
 second.  THen I downlaoded the Air creative plug-in bundle and tried it with 
 the DLM.  The transfer rate was not even half of what I was getting with the 
 straight IE download.  I guess they want you to use it so you can carry 
 folks along with slower internet connections or something.
 Gord
 On Jan 8, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I had deleted the message from Nick regarding tempo operations but, for 
 what it's worth, I got the license transferred to the iLok and gave it a 
 closer look. Yes, the tempo operations are accessible. It's a little quirky 
 in that, when you click on a field to edit it, you sort of need to delete 
 it all and enter a new value because, by default, the entry seems to be 
 inserted not where you think it is. In other words, if you click on the 
 tempo value, you're actually editing the numbers to the right of the 
 decimal so you need to arrow to the right a bit, hit delete a couple of 
 times and then enter the value. Remember to hit the Apply button and you're 
 good. Again, editing the events themselves is not yet possible although I'm 
 sure it'll be addressed soon and, as stated before, multiple tempo events 
 at the same location will reflect the last entered event's parameters. I 
 have an idea for possibly being able to edit the events at least in terms 
 of deletion. I'll experiment when I have a chance and will report what I 
 find.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: working in a studio with pro tools?

2014-01-10 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Gabe,

Well, I think just about everybody here has been indignant at being perceived 
as not being able to perform a particular task or get something done as a blind 
person. Who here hasn't experienced that frustration? Sometimes it's just not 
worth needing to prove oneself. I don't solder cables. I'm sure I could if I 
had to. I'm capable of figuring out alternative means to achieve the desired 
result and, sure, that would probably be satisfying and I'd have a sense of 
accomplishment but you know what? I'd rather pay someone to do it and not waste 
my time to prove something. It's pointless unless that particular thing is my 
passion and it's not. Even with something like audio recording, which so many 
blind individuals are passionate about, some challenges are worth pursuing and 
perhaps others are not. I think we all need to choose our battles wisely 
because we're ultimately fighting them alone.

This all started with the idea of a blind person working in a studio. Now, 
every situation is unique and I'm not saying that it's inconceivable for a 
blind individual to somehow be gainfully employed by a commercial studio but 
it's highly improbable in general. Yes, there are exceptions and I'm not saying 
this is a rule to begin with but, in the grand scheme of things, a blind audio 
professional is, in my opinion, far better off competing as a sole proprietor 
or within their own production team. 

Slau


Slau

On Jan 9, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Gabe Vega theblindt...@gmail.com wrote:

 hey buddy, you got to be the most on your game clear headed blind person I 
 have the pleasure to know. where most blind people try to be super man and do 
 all of end all, you just laid it out very clear. my thoughts exactly. thanks 
 so much to your contribution to this list and to the industry as a whole.
 
 Gabe Vega
 CEO
 Commtech LLC
 Web: http://commtechusa.net
 FaceBook: http://facebook.com/commtechllc
 Twitter: http://twitter.com/commtechllc
 Email: i...@commtechusa.net
 Phone: (888) 351-5289 ext. 710
 Fax: (480) 535-7649
 
 On Jan 9, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think all capable blind individuals would argue that, in some ways, blind 
 people are forced to adopt extremely streamlined and efficient workflows for 
 all kinds of things in life in order to function. Yes, there are some tasks 
 like mousing around that are slower but, to argue that point, most young 
 computer operators are quite adept at using the keyboard and, apart from 
 just being young genii, are super fast. I don't care how fast a blind user 
 is on a computer, not being able to see is just flat out a game changer and, 
 as I've said before, and I'm not saying it's fair, but there's no contest 
 between a sighted employee and a blind employee when it comes to the 
 all-around work in a studio. I'm not saying that an experienced engineer 
 can't come into a studio and work but, they will have never climbed the 
 ladder in such an establishment. There are simply too many obstacles, 
 literally and figuratively, and the cons outweigh the pros. Lest you 
 misconstrue my position, I contend that, while there are alternative means 
 to perform a great number of tasks for a blind person, again, there's no 
 contest when it comes to all things being equal and one person being sighted 
 and the other being blind.
 
 Slau
 
 On Jan 9, 2014, at 3:37 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Slau, I do think that sighted people often do have the advantage in any 
 vocation, but at the same time, I do notice that it is easy for sighted 
 people to take for Granit certain tasks and grow complacent in the way that 
 they perform them. For instance, I am able to do certain tasks much quicker 
 through some shortcut keys that sighted folks just don’t realize are there. 
 I have even found some engineers that use shortcut keys as much as possible 
 because they are often direct and concise with each execution. Sometimes 
 people wave the mouse around just to click on one task, “chasing the 
 mouse,” is an annoyance for more than one engineer. Also, I think that as a 
 blind user I have an entirely different, if you will, an extra perspective 
 on trouble shooting difficulties. Never the less, I agree with you in a 
 macro since, but I also think that there can be variables that can change 
 the playing field.
 
 - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 10:12 AM
 Subject: Re: working in a studio with pro tools?
 
 
 Hi Blake,
 
 I did that episode maybe 7 years ago so it's long gone.
 
 Regarding sighted tasks, I can't even begin to list the things that would 
 require sight. Trust me, even something as mundane as jumping in a car to 
 drive to the nearest Radio Shack because you need an XLR gender switcher is 
 something that clearly requires sight. Between two candidates who might 
 even know Pro Tools equally well, the 

Re: Clearing solo for all tracks.

2014-01-10 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Jason,

I think the easiest way to do this is to bring up the Item Chooser list, type s 
o l o to narrow down the list to only solo buttons and simply arrow down 
through them. The button that is soloed will stand out in the list as being 
engaged.

Hope that helps,

Slau

On Jan 10, 2014, at 12:42 AM, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone, is there a way to clear solos for all tracks in a session? Some 
 times, I may have a track soloed and I can't remember which track it is 
 especially in large sessions and the soloed track may not be playing at the 
 posision in the session I am currently playing. I have to go through each 
 track to find the soloed track. Thanks in advance for any help. Jason
 
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Re: Accessibility pt10.3.8 vs pt11.1

2014-01-10 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Matt,

It is a bit odd that none of the parameters are visible in that particular 
plug-in under 10. I wouldn't have guessed at that result. Well, for now, I 
suppose one could use the 4-band eQ which appears to be readable. Of course, 
under version 11.1, the 7-band EQ is completely readable. Go figure… :)

Slau

On Jan 10, 2014, at 7:13 AM, matt diemert mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Slau,
 In a previous message in this thread, you mentioned that the AAX plugs
 were some what accessible in 10.3.8.  I had an instance last night
 working on someones rig that was running this build, and I just pulled
 up the 7 band EQ that is standard kit in Pro Tools. When navigating
 the plug, voice over stopped at the automation settings button and
 would not go down any further in to the actual EQ settings. Was I
 doing something wrong, or, are the AAX plugs hit and miss in the
 10.3.8 build. It's not a big deal as I can take everything home when
 we're done working, but it'd be nice to throw some basic EQ in after
 tracking something.
 Thanks.
 
 On 1/8/14, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Slau,
 Glad that the aax is accessible with pt10 to a certain degree. It's time
 for me to convince school to update to Mavericks along with pt11!
 
 Chi
 
 On 1/6/2014 1:16 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Hi Chi,
 
 OK, I've had a chance to review and refresh my memory of the issues of 10
 versus 11. Upon review, version 11 really contains all of the
 improvements. The only substantive improvement that version 10 has is
 mainly the accessibility of the counters and AAX plug-ins. Regarding the
 counters, that could quite possibly be because of Mavericks versus
 Mountain Lion. It's been 8 months since I tried version 11 on Mountain
 Lion and there were a load of problems, not the least of which was the
 counter display issue. So, with version 10.3.8, the counters are readable
 but, whether that's because of Mavericks or not, I can't say for sure as
 I've been on Mavericks since the bulk of the accessibility work started.
 
 regarding plug-ins, the AAX plug-ins are accessible for the most part in
 version 10 but not in the same way as they are in 11. In a pinch, I was
 able to use some plug-ins for an emergency after my beta license for 11
 ran out. iLok License Manager not yet being accessible, my only choice at
 the time was to use version 10 for which I had purchased a license back
 before the License Manager was introduced.
 
 So, with those two mentionable improvements but not much else that I can
 tell at a cursory glance, the focus is really on 11.
 
 Hope that helps,
 
 Slau
 
 On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Slau,
 
 Thanks for the explanation.
 I was just wondering how much accessibility improvement in 11 was
 included in 10.3.8 as well.
 Regardless, I'm looking forward to upgrading to 11!
 
 Chi
 
 On 1/5/2014 12:27 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Hi Chi,
 
 Yes, there is a difference. The focus on accessibility in the future
 will be on version 11. There were improvements to 10.3.8 for sure but it
 was not the primary concentration. From now on, any updates to version
 10 will be general maintenance and will not likely include significant
 improvements to accessibility. Much like bug fixes in other software,
 it's not expected that the developer will go back to previous versions
 of the software to fix the problem. The point is that it's fixed in the
 new version and that's it. In this situation, however, there are still
 people needing to use version 10 during the transition from 32 to 64 bit
 and while plug-in developers are pulling up the rear. I was surprised at
 how much was actually done in 10.3.8 to begin with.
 
 BTW, one task that is still only doable in 10 and not 11 is to create a
 custom nudge value. In 11, a VoiceOver user can only choose from the
 default values whereas in 10 they can click a button, type a value and
 be done. In neither version is the numeric value visible. Surely, it'll
 be fixed in 11 at some point but I doubt it'll be addressed in 10.
 
 Best,
 
 Slau
 
 
 On Jan 5, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 First Slau, congratulation on this milestone! Thank you for making this
 happen!
 Is there any difference in accessibility between pt10.3.8 vs pt11.1?
 Thanks,
 
 Chi
 
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Re: Clearing solo for all tracks.

2014-01-10 Thread Poppa Bear
I will try that Matt. For safe solo, it would make mixing much easier when I 
get a high track count of instruments that I want to bus and have to rename 
each instrument track by track because the client baught that music and it 
is just labeled with the producers name rather than the instrument for that 
track.
- Original Message - 
From: matt diemert mcdiem...@gmail.com

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: Clearing solo for all tracks.



Poppa, As far as I'm able to tell, the only way to solo safe a track
is to physically click the solo button in track strip while holding
down command. In other words, when I'm on the solo button, I press
voiceover command f5 to bring mouse focus to the button, and while
holding down command, click on my mouse.

In regards to the other question, I typically keep my solo on xhor so
that my solo follows what ever track is selected, if I need to sol up
ultiple things I make my selection across those tracks first then
solo.
Hope this helps.

On 1/10/14, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't want to highjack your post, but I am wondering something about
soloing as well, is there a shortcut key command to put tracks on safe 
solo

mode?
  - Original Message -
  From: studiojay
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:42 PM
  Subject: Clearing solo for all tracks.


  Hi everyone, is there a way to clear solos for all tracks in a session?
Some times, I may have a track soloed and I can't remember which track it 
is
especially in large sessions and the soloed track may not be playing at 
the

posision in the session I am currently playing. I have to go through each
track to find the soloed track. Thanks in advance for any help. Jason

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PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager accessibility

2014-01-10 Thread Slau Halatyn
I was recently put in touch with the president and vice-president at PACE 
anti-Piracy, the makers of the iLok key and the iLok License Manager software. 
Since i made it clear that I wished to share their response with this 
community, I'm pasting it below. In fact, I'm including my original message as 
well. I'd normally not send as lengthy an email to a developer but, under the 
circumstances and, given it's impact, I wanted to give it a little more weight.

You'll notice that the vice-president has responded and they're clearly aware 
of the issue and have indicated their intention to resolve the problem. You'll 
notice that in my response I tried to suggest that the project would surely not 
take as much work as Mr. Kirk has estimated but, even if their estimate turns 
out to be correct, the fact that they're still willing to fix it is good news. 
Still, I think they'll ultimately find that it won't be as complicated as it 
might appear. I do also suspect that the scope of the work as described by Mr. 
Kirk also includes the necessary work it'll take to migrate to a newer 
development platform. That was something that Avid experienced as well and is 
one of the reasons it took so long to get to the point where Avid could begin 
work on Pro Tools accessibility. Anyway, you'll find the initial message and 
subsequent responses below.

Best,

Slau


On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Slau Halatyn s...@besharpstudios.com wrote:

Dear Mr. Cronce,

My name is Slau Halatyn and I've been an iLok user since 2002 when I made the 
switch from an analog multitrack to Pro Tools HD. I'm a blind studio owner and 
trained audio engineer in New York City. When I witnessed the iLok system at 
work, I was impressed and, at the same time, relieved to not have to deal with 
challenge/response and registration code nightmares. Everything went quite 
swimmingly until the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a 
bit…

I've been working with many people at avid including Rich Holmes and ed Gray 
among others regarding the accessibility of Pro Tools. Actually, that work 
started years before when David Gibbons was still at Digidesign. There were 
various obstacles to overcome while the company transitioned through several 
technologies but, with the new release of Pro Tools 11.1, we've seen incredible 
strides in improved accessibility for blind users. With this comes many new 
blind users ranging from students all the way to professional audio engineers 
and studio owners. 

For a time, while Pro Tools was improving in accessibility from version 8 
through 10, the use of PACE's iLok.com site was very straight-forward and quite 
accessible since it was based on html which, if standards were followed, was 
very easy to use. Unfortunately for blind users, the introduction of the new 
iLok License Manager saw this accessibility completely wiped out. The 
application is completely unusable for blind users trying to access the 
program's features with the built-in screen reader in OS X known as VoiceOver. 
there is no work-around for the problem and the only way one can deal with 
licenses is to have a sighted individual perform the tasks instead. With the 
advent of new Pro Tools accessibility and upgrading to new HDX systems and 
plug-ins, this affects people like me on a daily basis. I know that others in 
our community have written for support and have been told that PACE is aware of 
the issue and I would imagine that it has possibly been brought to your 
attention.

I'm writing to you to ask that this issue be addressed and resolved as soon as 
your resources allow. To blind users of iLoks, not having access to the iLok 
License Manager is the equivalent of sighted users suddenly not having access 
to their licenses and I'm sure you're no stranger to user complaints when 
things go wrong. The recent problems that PACE experienced was, I'm sure, 
stressful and you're probably relieved to have that behind you. Stress, 
however, is what blind users are experiencing every time a demo license or 
upgrade comes up. The disappointment at the current state of iLok License 
Manager accessibility is evident every time a new blind user learns of the 
issue.

I offer you a fairly simple solution: Apple has some basic programming 
guidelines for making applications accessible with VoiceOver. Largely, it's a 
matter of simply defining UI elements. If UI elements are undefined or 
unlabeled, the user sees nothing in the application apart from the menu bar. If 
a button is defined as a button, the user sees the button. If that button is 
unlabeled, well, that's not so great. However, if it's defined as a button and 
also labeled, the user can perform the default action, interact in whichever 
way is appropriate and use the UI controls as intended. In most cases, it's a 
matter of typing a few words per control. Often, Apple's underlying framework 
takes over at that point and browsing dialogs is already accessible by default. 

PT related articul about gaining more head room in mixes

2014-01-10 Thread Poppa Bear
Here is an artical I read last night after hearing an ingineer talk about using 
multable master busses inbetween tracks and aax busses to be able to gain more 
head room in the mix and control source signals better. 
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun10/articles/pt_0610.htm

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Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager accessibility

2014-01-10 Thread Poppa Bear
Thank you Slau, I shared this with the mag as well because so many of the users 
over there struggle with the same issue. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:04 AM
  Subject: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager 
accessibility


  I was recently put in touch with the president and vice-president at PACE 
anti-Piracy, the makers of the iLok key and the iLok License Manager software. 
Since i made it clear that I wished to share their response with this 
community, I'm pasting it below. In fact, I'm including my original message as 
well. I'd normally not send as lengthy an email to a developer but, under the 
circumstances and, given it's impact, I wanted to give it a little more weight.


  You'll notice that the vice-president has responded and they're clearly aware 
of the issue and have indicated their intention to resolve the problem. You'll 
notice that in my response I tried to suggest that the project would surely not 
take as much work as Mr. Kirk has estimated but, even if their estimate turns 
out to be correct, the fact that they're still willing to fix it is good news. 
Still, I think they'll ultimately find that it won't be as complicated as it 
might appear. I do also suspect that the scope of the work as described by Mr. 
Kirk also includes the necessary work it'll take to migrate to a newer 
development platform. That was something that Avid experienced as well and is 
one of the reasons it took so long to get to the point where Avid could begin 
work on Pro Tools accessibility. Anyway, you'll find the initial message and 
subsequent responses below.


  Best,


  Slau




  On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Slau Halatyn s...@besharpstudios.com wrote:


  Dear Mr. Cronce,


  My name is Slau Halatyn and I've been an iLok user since 2002 when I made the 
switch from an analog multitrack to Pro Tools HD. I'm a blind studio owner and 
trained audio engineer in New York City. When I witnessed the iLok system at 
work, I was impressed and, at the same time, relieved to not have to deal with 
challenge/response and registration code nightmares. Everything went quite 
swimmingly until the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a 
bit…


  I've been working with many people at avid including Rich Holmes and ed Gray 
among others regarding the accessibility of Pro Tools. Actually, that work 
started years before when David Gibbons was still at Digidesign. There were 
various obstacles to overcome while the company transitioned through several 
technologies but, with the new release of Pro Tools 11.1, we've seen incredible 
strides in improved accessibility for blind users. With this comes many new 
blind users ranging from students all the way to professional audio engineers 
and studio owners. 


  For a time, while Pro Tools was improving in accessibility from version 8 
through 10, the use of PACE's iLok.com site was very straight-forward and quite 
accessible since it was based on html which, if standards were followed, was 
very easy to use. Unfortunately for blind users, the introduction of the new 
iLok License Manager saw this accessibility completely wiped out. The 
application is completely unusable for blind users trying to access the 
program's features with the built-in screen reader in OS X known as VoiceOver. 
there is no work-around for the problem and the only way one can deal with 
licenses is to have a sighted individual perform the tasks instead. With the 
advent of new Pro Tools accessibility and upgrading to new HDX systems and 
plug-ins, this affects people like me on a daily basis. I know that others in 
our community have written for support and have been told that PACE is aware of 
the issue and I would imagine that it has possibly been brought to your 
attention.


  I'm writing to you to ask that this issue be addressed and resolved as soon 
as your resources allow. To blind users of iLoks, not having access to the iLok 
License Manager is the equivalent of sighted users suddenly not having access 
to their licenses and I'm sure you're no stranger to user complaints when 
things go wrong. The recent problems that PACE experienced was, I'm sure, 
stressful and you're probably relieved to have that behind you. Stress, 
however, is what blind users are experiencing every time a demo license or 
upgrade comes up. The disappointment at the current state of iLok License 
Manager accessibility is evident every time a new blind user learns of the 
issue.


  I offer you a fairly simple solution: Apple has some basic programming 
guidelines for making applications accessible with VoiceOver. Largely, it's a 
matter of simply defining UI elements. If UI elements are undefined or 
unlabeled, the user sees nothing in the application apart from the menu bar. If 
a button is defined as a button, the user sees the button. If that button is 
unlabeled, well, that's not 

Re: Clearing solo for all tracks.

2014-01-10 Thread Slau Halatyn
This discussion is a good illustration of why control surfaces are practically 
a necessity. Many have dedicated solo clear buttons not to mention the solo 
buttons themselves which can quickly be turned on or off. Anyway, always good 
to know multiple ways of getting to the same result. Too bad VoiceOver doesn't 
support modified clicks yet. I've been suggesting that for some time. Maybe 
some day but, for now, yes, routing the pointer and clicking a physical mouse 
or track pad with the modifier is the way to go.

Slau

On Jan 10, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 I will try that Matt. For safe solo, it would make mixing much easier when I 
 get a high track count of instruments that I want to bus and have to rename 
 each instrument track by track because the client baught that music and it is 
 just labeled with the producers name rather than the instrument for that 
 track.
 - Original Message - From: matt diemert mcdiem...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Clearing solo for all tracks.
 
 
 Poppa, As far as I'm able to tell, the only way to solo safe a track
 is to physically click the solo button in track strip while holding
 down command. In other words, when I'm on the solo button, I press
 voiceover command f5 to bring mouse focus to the button, and while
 holding down command, click on my mouse.
 
 In regards to the other question, I typically keep my solo on xhor so
 that my solo follows what ever track is selected, if I need to sol up
 ultiple things I make my selection across those tracks first then
 solo.
 Hope this helps.
 
 On 1/10/14, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't want to highjack your post, but I am wondering something about
 soloing as well, is there a shortcut key command to put tracks on safe solo
 mode?
  - Original Message -
  From: studiojay
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:42 PM
  Subject: Clearing solo for all tracks.
 
 
  Hi everyone, is there a way to clear solos for all tracks in a session?
 Some times, I may have a track soloed and I can't remember which track it is
 especially in large sessions and the soloed track may not be playing at the
 posision in the session I am currently playing. I have to go through each
 track to find the soloed track. Thanks in advance for any help. Jason
 
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Re: PT related articul about gaining more head room in mixes

2014-01-10 Thread Slau Halatyn
I just wanted to point out that this article, like so many found items on the 
Internet, is a bit long in the tooth. Pro Tools has since moved to a 64-bit 
architecture. Of course, the salient point that one can simply turn down a 
master fader to decrease the bus output still applies. That said, many users, 
myself included, prefer to pull back the rest of the faders and keep master 
faders at unity gain. It's largely a matter of pure preference but I'd rather 
have more throw on all faders rather than keeping them around their least 
significant bits territory.

Slau

xxOn Jan 10, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here is an artical I read last night after hearing an ingineer talk about 
 using multable master busses inbetween tracks and aax busses to be able to 
 gain more head room in the mix and control source signals better. 
 http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun10/articles/pt_0610.htm
 
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Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager accessibility

2014-01-10 Thread Chris Smart
Perhaps also mention that this affects Windows 
users as well, and that NVDA is a free 
screenreader they can use in their testing on the Windows side.


At 03:16 PM 1/10/2014, you wrote:
Thank you Slau, I shared this with the mag as 
well because so many of the users over there struggle with the same issue.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:04 AM
Subject: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding 
iLok License Manager accessibility


I was recently put in touch with the president 
and vice-president at PACE anti-Piracy, the 
makers of the iLok key and the iLok License 
Manager software. Since i made it clear that I 
wished to share their response with this 
community, I'm pasting it below. In fact, I'm 
including my original message as well. I'd 
normally not send as lengthy an email to a 
developer but, under the circumstances and, 
given it's impact, I wanted to give it a little more weight.


You'll notice that the vice-president has 
responded and they're clearly aware of the issue 
and have indicated their intention to resolve 
the problem. You'll notice that in my response I 
tried to suggest that the project would surely 
not take as much work as Mr. Kirk has estimated 
but, even if their estimate turns out to be 
correct, the fact that they're still willing to 
fix it is good news. Still, I think they'll 
ultimately find that it won't be as complicated 
as it might appear. I do also suspect that the 
scope of the work as described by Mr. Kirk also 
includes the necessary work it'll take to 
migrate to a newer development platform. That 
was something that Avid experienced as well and 
is one of the reasons it took so long to get to 
the point where Avid could begin work on Pro 
Tools accessibility. Anyway, you'll find the 
initial message and subsequent responses below.


Best,

Slau


On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Slau Halatyn 
mailto:s...@besharpstudios.coms...@besharpstudios.com wrote:


Dear Mr. Cronce,

My name is Slau Halatyn and I've been an iLok 
user since 2002 when I made the switch from an 
analog multitrack to Pro Tools HD. I'm a blind 
studio owner and trained audio engineer in New 
York City. When I witnessed the iLok system at 
work, I was impressed and, at the same time, 
relieved to not have to deal with 
challenge/response and registration code 
nightmares. Everything went quite swimmingly 
until the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a bit…


I've been working with many people at avid 
including Rich Holmes and ed Gray among others 
regarding the accessibility of Pro Tools. 
Actually, that work started years before when 
David Gibbons was still at Digidesign. There 
were various obstacles to overcome while the 
company transitioned through several 
technologies but, with the new release of Pro 
Tools 11.1, we've seen incredible strides in 
improved accessibility for blind users. With 
this comes many new blind users ranging from 
students all the way to professional audio engineers and studio owners.


For a time, while Pro Tools was improving in 
accessibility from version 8 through 10, the use 
of PACE's http://ilok.com/iLok.com site was 
very straight-forward and quite accessible since 
it was based on html which, if standards were 
followed, was very easy to use. Unfortunately 
for blind users, the introduction of the new 
iLok License Manager saw this accessibility 
completely wiped out. The application is 
completely unusable for blind users trying to 
access the program's features with the built-in 
screen reader in OS X known as VoiceOver. there 
is no work-around for the problem and the only 
way one can deal with licenses is to have a 
sighted individual perform the tasks instead. 
With the advent of new Pro Tools accessibility 
and upgrading to new HDX systems and plug-ins, 
this affects people like me on a daily basis. I 
know that others in our community have written 
for support and have been told that PACE is 
aware of the issue and I would imagine that it 
has possibly been brought to your attention.


I'm writing to you to ask that this issue be 
addressed and resolved as soon as your resources 
allow. To blind users of iLoks, not having 
access to the iLok License Manager is the 
equivalent of sighted users suddenly not having 
access to their licenses and I'm sure you're no 
stranger to user complaints when things go 
wrong. The recent problems that PACE experienced 
was, I'm sure, stressful and you're probably 
relieved to have that behind you. Stress, 
however, is what blind users are experiencing 
every time a demo license or upgrade comes up. 
The disappointment at the current state of iLok 
License Manager accessibility is evident every 
time a new blind user learns of the issue.


I offer you a fairly simple solution: Apple has 
some basic programming guidelines for making 
applications accessible with 

Re: PT related articul about gaining more head room in mixes

2014-01-10 Thread Poppa Bear
I understand your posission and you make a valid point, for me I am still on PT 
8 and I have found that quite a few people don't know concepts like this within 
PT and I hear so many mixes that are pumping extremely hard, for more than one 
reason of corse, but  by just considering a step like this, they  could perhaps 
open up their range of options to make sure that they are not overloading AAX 
busses when they could put one step in between as a safety net. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:26 AM
  Subject: Re: PT related articul about gaining more head room in mixes


  I just wanted to point out that this article, like so many found items on the 
Internet, is a bit long in the tooth. Pro Tools has since moved to a 64-bit 
architecture. Of course, the salient point that one can simply turn down a 
master fader to decrease the bus output still applies. That said, many users, 
myself included, prefer to pull back the rest of the faders and keep master 
faders at unity gain. It's largely a matter of pure preference but I'd rather 
have more throw on all faders rather than keeping them around their least 
significant bits territory.


  Slau


  xxOn Jan 10, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:


Here is an artical I read last night after hearing an ingineer talk about 
using multable master busses inbetween tracks and aax busses to be able to gain 
more head room in the mix and control source signals better. 
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun10/articles/pt_0610.htm


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Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager accessibility

2014-01-10 Thread Scott Chesworth
Oh, depending on what version of QT they've used, there hands really
could be tied quite tight. That said, I'm pretty sure the iZotope
chaps managed to get some semblance of accessibility going pre QT5, so
it can be done.

Good to know it's on the radar anyway. Thanks for keeping us informed.

Scott

On 1/10/14, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 Perhaps also mention that this affects Windows
 users as well, and that NVDA is a free
 screenreader they can use in their testing on the Windows side.

 At 03:16 PM 1/10/2014, you wrote:
Thank you Slau, I shared this with the mag as
well because so many of the users over there struggle with the same issue.
- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:04 AM
Subject: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding
iLok License Manager accessibility

I was recently put in touch with the president
and vice-president at PACE anti-Piracy, the
makers of the iLok key and the iLok License
Manager software. Since i made it clear that I
wished to share their response with this
community, I'm pasting it below. In fact, I'm
including my original message as well. I'd
normally not send as lengthy an email to a
developer but, under the circumstances and,
given it's impact, I wanted to give it a little more weight.

You'll notice that the vice-president has
responded and they're clearly aware of the issue
and have indicated their intention to resolve
the problem. You'll notice that in my response I
tried to suggest that the project would surely
not take as much work as Mr. Kirk has estimated
but, even if their estimate turns out to be
correct, the fact that they're still willing to
fix it is good news. Still, I think they'll
ultimately find that it won't be as complicated
as it might appear. I do also suspect that the
scope of the work as described by Mr. Kirk also
includes the necessary work it'll take to
migrate to a newer development platform. That
was something that Avid experienced as well and
is one of the reasons it took so long to get to
the point where Avid could begin work on Pro
Tools accessibility. Anyway, you'll find the
initial message and subsequent responses below.

Best,

Slau


On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Slau Halatyn
mailto:s...@besharpstudios.coms...@besharpstudios.com wrote:

Dear Mr. Cronce,

My name is Slau Halatyn and I've been an iLok
user since 2002 when I made the switch from an
analog multitrack to Pro Tools HD. I'm a blind
studio owner and trained audio engineer in New
York City. When I witnessed the iLok system at
work, I was impressed and, at the same time,
relieved to not have to deal with
challenge/response and registration code
nightmares. Everything went quite swimmingly
until the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a bit…

I've been working with many people at avid
including Rich Holmes and ed Gray among others
regarding the accessibility of Pro Tools.
Actually, that work started years before when
David Gibbons was still at Digidesign. There
were various obstacles to overcome while the
company transitioned through several
technologies but, with the new release of Pro
Tools 11.1, we've seen incredible strides in
improved accessibility for blind users. With
this comes many new blind users ranging from
students all the way to professional audio engineers and studio owners.

For a time, while Pro Tools was improving in
accessibility from version 8 through 10, the use
of PACE's http://ilok.com/iLok.com site was
very straight-forward and quite accessible since
it was based on html which, if standards were
followed, was very easy to use. Unfortunately
for blind users, the introduction of the new
iLok License Manager saw this accessibility
completely wiped out. The application is
completely unusable for blind users trying to
access the program's features with the built-in
screen reader in OS X known as VoiceOver. there
is no work-around for the problem and the only
way one can deal with licenses is to have a
sighted individual perform the tasks instead.
With the advent of new Pro Tools accessibility
and upgrading to new HDX systems and plug-ins,
this affects people like me on a daily basis. I
know that others in our community have written
for support and have been told that PACE is
aware of the issue and I would imagine that it
has possibly been brought to your attention.

I'm writing to you to ask that this issue be
addressed and resolved as soon as your resources
allow. To blind users of iLoks, not having
access to the iLok License Manager is the
equivalent of sighted users suddenly not having
access to their licenses and I'm sure you're no
stranger to user complaints when things go
wrong. The recent problems that PACE experienced
was, I'm sure, stressful and you're probably
relieved to have that behind you. Stress,
however, is what blind users are experiencing
every time a demo license or upgrade comes up.
The 

Re: PT related articul about gaining more head room in mixes

2014-01-10 Thread Slau Halatyn
Yes, true :)

On Jan 10, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 I understand your posission and you make a valid point, for me I am still on 
 PT 8 and I have found that quite a few people don't know concepts like this 
 within PT and I hear so many mixes that are pumping extremely hard, for more 
 than one reason of corse, but  by just considering a step like this, they  
 could perhaps open up their range of options to make sure that they are not 
 overloading AAX busses when they could put one step in between as a safety 
 net.
 - Original Message -
 From: Slau Halatyn
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:26 AM
 Subject: Re: PT related articul about gaining more head room in mixes
 
 I just wanted to point out that this article, like so many found items on the 
 Internet, is a bit long in the tooth. Pro Tools has since moved to a 64-bit 
 architecture. Of course, the salient point that one can simply turn down a 
 master fader to decrease the bus output still applies. That said, many users, 
 myself included, prefer to pull back the rest of the faders and keep master 
 faders at unity gain. It's largely a matter of pure preference but I'd rather 
 have more throw on all faders rather than keeping them around their least 
 significant bits territory.
 
 Slau
 
 xxOn Jan 10, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Here is an artical I read last night after hearing an ingineer talk about 
 using multable master busses inbetween tracks and aax busses to be able to 
 gain more head room in the mix and control source signals better. 
 http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun10/articles/pt_0610.htm
 
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Re: avid download manager

2014-01-10 Thread Gordon Kent
Oh I never tried it on the mac.  I usually download stuff like that in windows 
and put it on a jump drive  to install on the mac.
Gord
On Jan 10, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've never gotten the download manager to work for me. I always just click 
 the link and it works just fine as a normal download in Safari.
 
 Slau
 
 On Jan 9, 2014, at 10:17 PM, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I tried it but error I needed JAVA installed which I do.
 
 I clicked hear to ddownload which is a normal download.
 
 I am afraid if one uses the manager it would be like using a dialup 
 connection.  smile
 
 
 On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote:
 
 Hi:
 Do any of you use Avid’s download manager when downloading Pro tools or 
 plug ins or whatever?  I downloaded the PT 11.1 installer without using the 
 download manager on windows with IE and got transfer rates of over 3 mhz a 
 second.  THen I downlaoded the Air creative plug-in bundle and tried it 
 with the DLM.  The transfer rate was not even half of what I was getting 
 with the straight IE download.  I guess they want you to use it so you can 
 carry folks along with slower internet connections or something.
 Gord
 On Jan 8, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I had deleted the message from Nick regarding tempo operations but, for 
 what it's worth, I got the license transferred to the iLok and gave it a 
 closer look. Yes, the tempo operations are accessible. It's a little 
 quirky in that, when you click on a field to edit it, you sort of need to 
 delete it all and enter a new value because, by default, the entry seems 
 to be inserted not where you think it is. In other words, if you click on 
 the tempo value, you're actually editing the numbers to the right of the 
 decimal so you need to arrow to the right a bit, hit delete a couple of 
 times and then enter the value. Remember to hit the Apply button and 
 you're good. Again, editing the events themselves is not yet possible 
 although I'm sure it'll be addressed soon and, as stated before, multiple 
 tempo events at the same location will reflect the last entered event's 
 parameters. I have an idea for possibly being able to edit the events at 
 least in terms of deletion. I'll experiment when I have a chance and will 
 report what I find.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager accessibility

2014-01-10 Thread Polaris-17

QT damn shit

On 2014-01-10 21:04, Slau Halatyn wrote:
I was recently put in touch with the president and vice-president at 
PACE anti-Piracy, the makers of the iLok key and the iLok License 
Manager software. Since i made it clear that I wished to share their 
response with this community, I'm pasting it below. In fact, I'm 
including my original message as well. I'd normally not send as 
lengthy an email to a developer but, under the circumstances and, 
given it's impact, I wanted to give it a little more weight.


You'll notice that the vice-president has responded and they're 
clearly aware of the issue and have indicated their intention to 
resolve the problem. You'll notice that in my response I tried to 
suggest that the project would surely not take as much work as Mr. 
Kirk has estimated but, even if their estimate turns out to be 
correct, the fact that they're still willing to fix it is good news. 
Still, I think they'll ultimately find that it won't be as complicated 
as it might appear. I do also suspect that the scope of the work as 
described by Mr. Kirk also includes the necessary work it'll take to 
migrate to a newer development platform. That was something that Avid 
experienced as well and is one of the reasons it took so long to get 
to the point where Avid could begin work on Pro Tools accessibility. 
Anyway, you'll find the initial message and subsequent responses below.


Best,

Slau


On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Slau Halatyn s...@besharpstudios.com 
mailto:s...@besharpstudios.com wrote:


Dear Mr. Cronce,

My name is Slau Halatyn and I've been an iLok user since 2002 when I 
made the switch from an analog multitrack to Pro Tools HD. I'm a blind 
studio owner and trained audio engineer in New York City. When I 
witnessed the iLok system at work, I was impressed and, at the same 
time, relieved to not have to deal with challenge/response and 
registration code nightmares. Everything went quite swimmingly until 
the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a bit...


I've been working with many people at avid including Rich Holmes and 
ed Gray among others regarding the accessibility of Pro Tools. 
Actually, that work started years before when David Gibbons was still 
at Digidesign. There were various obstacles to overcome while the 
company transitioned through several technologies but, with the new 
release of Pro Tools 11.1, we've seen incredible strides in improved 
accessibility for blind users. With this comes many new blind users 
ranging from students all the way to professional audio engineers and 
studio owners.


For a time, while Pro Tools was improving in accessibility from 
version 8 through 10, the use of PACE's iLok.com http://ilok.com/ 
site was very straight-forward and quite accessible since it was based 
on html which, if standards were followed, was very easy to use. 
Unfortunately for blind users, the introduction of the new iLok 
License Manager saw this accessibility completely wiped out. The 
application is completely unusable for blind users trying to access 
the program's features with the built-in screen reader in OS X known 
as VoiceOver. there is no work-around for the problem and the only way 
one can deal with licenses is to have a sighted individual perform the 
tasks instead. With the advent of new Pro Tools accessibility and 
upgrading to new HDX systems and plug-ins, this affects people like me 
on a daily basis. I know that others in our community have written for 
support and have been told that PACE is aware of the issue and I would 
imagine that it has possibly been brought to your attention.


I'm writing to you to ask that this issue be addressed and resolved as 
soon as your resources allow. To blind users of iLoks, not having 
access to the iLok License Manager is the equivalent of sighted users 
suddenly not having access to their licenses and I'm sure you're no 
stranger to user complaints when things go wrong. The recent problems 
that PACE experienced was, I'm sure, stressful and you're probably 
relieved to have that behind you. Stress, however, is what blind users 
are experiencing every time a demo license or upgrade comes up. The 
disappointment at the current state of iLok License Manager 
accessibility is evident every time a new blind user learns of the issue.


I offer you a fairly simple solution: Apple has some basic programming 
guidelines for making applications accessible with VoiceOver. Largely, 
it's a matter of simply defining UI elements. If UI elements are 
undefined or unlabeled, the user sees nothing in the application apart 
from the menu bar. If a button is defined as a button, the user sees 
the button. If that button is unlabeled, well, that's not so great. 
However, if it's defined as a button and also labeled, the user can 
perform the default action, interact in whichever way is appropriate 
and use the UI controls as intended. In most cases, it's a matter of 
typing a few words per control. 

Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager accessibility

2014-01-10 Thread Christopher gilland

wo wo wo!  Wait a minute here!

ILM is Ilok Manager?  that's the same scheme used by JAWS!  JAWS made it 
accessible!  Granted, they did so without the physical ILok dongle, and 
yeah, they only give 5 activations, but! that isn't the point.  the point 
is, if ILok are the ones who made the ILM scheme, and we got it working 
reliably with JFW, who's to say it would be difficult getting it working 
elseware for things that need it.


Frankly, I see this as just lame excuse to further delay accessible 
development.  I'm saying, I see their responses as such.  Call me a jack ass 
for saying it, but that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager 
accessibility



Oh, depending on what version of QT they've used, there hands really
could be tied quite tight. That said, I'm pretty sure the iZotope
chaps managed to get some semblance of accessibility going pre QT5, so
it can be done.

Good to know it's on the radar anyway. Thanks for keeping us informed.

Scott

On 1/10/14, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:

Perhaps also mention that this affects Windows
users as well, and that NVDA is a free
screenreader they can use in their testing on the Windows side.

At 03:16 PM 1/10/2014, you wrote:

Thank you Slau, I shared this with the mag as
well because so many of the users over there struggle with the same issue.
- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:04 AM
Subject: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding
iLok License Manager accessibility

I was recently put in touch with the president
and vice-president at PACE anti-Piracy, the
makers of the iLok key and the iLok License
Manager software. Since i made it clear that I
wished to share their response with this
community, I'm pasting it below. In fact, I'm
including my original message as well. I'd
normally not send as lengthy an email to a
developer but, under the circumstances and,
given it's impact, I wanted to give it a little more weight.

You'll notice that the vice-president has
responded and they're clearly aware of the issue
and have indicated their intention to resolve
the problem. You'll notice that in my response I
tried to suggest that the project would surely
not take as much work as Mr. Kirk has estimated
but, even if their estimate turns out to be
correct, the fact that they're still willing to
fix it is good news. Still, I think they'll
ultimately find that it won't be as complicated
as it might appear. I do also suspect that the
scope of the work as described by Mr. Kirk also
includes the necessary work it'll take to
migrate to a newer development platform. That
was something that Avid experienced as well and
is one of the reasons it took so long to get to
the point where Avid could begin work on Pro
Tools accessibility. Anyway, you'll find the
initial message and subsequent responses below.

Best,

Slau


On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Slau Halatyn
mailto:s...@besharpstudios.coms...@besharpstudios.com wrote:

Dear Mr. Cronce,

My name is Slau Halatyn and I've been an iLok
user since 2002 when I made the switch from an
analog multitrack to Pro Tools HD. I'm a blind
studio owner and trained audio engineer in New
York City. When I witnessed the iLok system at
work, I was impressed and, at the same time,
relieved to not have to deal with
challenge/response and registration code
nightmares. Everything went quite swimmingly
until the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a bit…

I've been working with many people at avid
including Rich Holmes and ed Gray among others
regarding the accessibility of Pro Tools.
Actually, that work started years before when
David Gibbons was still at Digidesign. There
were various obstacles to overcome while the
company transitioned through several
technologies but, with the new release of Pro
Tools 11.1, we've seen incredible strides in
improved accessibility for blind users. With
this comes many new blind users ranging from
students all the way to professional audio engineers and studio owners.

For a time, while Pro Tools was improving in
accessibility from version 8 through 10, the use
of PACE's http://ilok.com/iLok.com site was
very straight-forward and quite accessible since
it was based on html which, if standards were
followed, was very easy to use. Unfortunately
for blind users, the introduction of the new
iLok License Manager saw this accessibility
completely wiped out. The application is
completely unusable for blind users trying to
access the program's features with the built-in
screen reader in OS X known as VoiceOver. there
is no work-around for the problem and the only
way one can deal with licenses is to have a
sighted individual perform the 

Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager accessibility

2014-01-10 Thread Christopher gilland
Hello sir, or madam, sorry, not sure which you are.

Your comment did absolutely nothing to this thread, and quite frankly, say 
nothing but ignorance in the field of QT knowledge.  though I don't know much 
about it myself, I can tell you it's not quote unquote:  damn shit.  It can be, 
but what thing has potential of being bliss perfect in life?  With the proper 
tools, one can somewhat easily make qt accessible.  Look at what has been done 
with QT-Aspi in Linux in combination with the QT Bridge, and with Orca!  Also, 
just for your knowledge, there are a few QT apps that actually read fairly 
decently with your object or screen review modes in NVDA.  OK, I'll admit that 
doesn't really help us on the mac side with Voiceover, nor did I say even on 
Windows that it was ideal, cause it's not, but! the point being, it is somewhat 
of a sollution.  You're kind a throwing the chocolate cake to the hungry kid 
before getting a bite of it yourself, sota speak.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Polaris-17 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 9:50 PM
  Subject: Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager 
accessibility


  QT damn shit


  On 2014-01-10 21:04, Slau Halatyn wrote:

I was recently put in touch with the president and vice-president at PACE 
anti-Piracy, the makers of the iLok key and the iLok License Manager software. 
Since i made it clear that I wished to share their response with this 
community, I'm pasting it below. In fact, I'm including my original message as 
well. I'd normally not send as lengthy an email to a developer but, under the 
circumstances and, given it's impact, I wanted to give it a little more weight.


You'll notice that the vice-president has responded and they're clearly 
aware of the issue and have indicated their intention to resolve the problem. 
You'll notice that in my response I tried to suggest that the project would 
surely not take as much work as Mr. Kirk has estimated but, even if their 
estimate turns out to be correct, the fact that they're still willing to fix it 
is good news. Still, I think they'll ultimately find that it won't be as 
complicated as it might appear. I do also suspect that the scope of the work as 
described by Mr. Kirk also includes the necessary work it'll take to migrate to 
a newer development platform. That was something that Avid experienced as well 
and is one of the reasons it took so long to get to the point where Avid could 
begin work on Pro Tools accessibility. Anyway, you'll find the initial message 
and subsequent responses below.


Best,


Slau




On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Slau Halatyn s...@besharpstudios.com wrote:


Dear Mr. Cronce,


My name is Slau Halatyn and I've been an iLok user since 2002 when I made 
the switch from an analog multitrack to Pro Tools HD. I'm a blind studio owner 
and trained audio engineer in New York City. When I witnessed the iLok system 
at work, I was impressed and, at the same time, relieved to not have to deal 
with challenge/response and registration code nightmares. Everything went quite 
swimmingly until the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a 
bit.


I've been working with many people at avid including Rich Holmes and ed 
Gray among others regarding the accessibility of Pro Tools. Actually, that work 
started years before when David Gibbons was still at Digidesign. There were 
various obstacles to overcome while the company transitioned through several 
technologies but, with the new release of Pro Tools 11.1, we've seen incredible 
strides in improved accessibility for blind users. With this comes many new 
blind users ranging from students all the way to professional audio engineers 
and studio owners. 


For a time, while Pro Tools was improving in accessibility from version 8 
through 10, the use of PACE's iLok.com site was very straight-forward and quite 
accessible since it was based on html which, if standards were followed, was 
very easy to use. Unfortunately for blind users, the introduction of the new 
iLok License Manager saw this accessibility completely wiped out. The 
application is completely unusable for blind users trying to access the 
program's features with the built-in screen reader in OS X known as VoiceOver. 
there is no work-around for the problem and the only way one can deal with 
licenses is to have a sighted individual perform the tasks instead. With the 
advent of new Pro Tools accessibility and upgrading to new HDX systems and 
plug-ins, this affects people like me on a daily basis. I know that others in 
our community have written for support and have been told that PACE is aware of 
the issue and I would imagine that it has possibly been brought to your 
attention.


I'm writing to you to ask that this issue be addressed and resolved as soon 
as your resources allow. To blind users of iLoks, not having access to the iLok 
License 

Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager accessibility

2014-01-10 Thread Slau Halatyn
Chris,

ILM and iLok License Manager are not the same thing. It's simply a coincidence 
that the first letters for Pace's software product work out to ILM but that's 
not the official name..

Slau

On Jan 10, 2014, at 10:24 PM, Christopher gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 wo wo wo!  Wait a minute here!
 
 ILM is Ilok Manager?  that's the same scheme used by JAWS!  JAWS made it 
 accessible!  Granted, they did so without the physical ILok dongle, and yeah, 
 they only give 5 activations, but! that isn't the point.  the point is, if 
 ILok are the ones who made the ILM scheme, and we got it working reliably 
 with JFW, who's to say it would be difficult getting it working elseware for 
 things that need it.
 
 Frankly, I see this as just lame excuse to further delay accessible 
 development.  I'm saying, I see their responses as such.  Call me a jack ass 
 for saying it, but that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth 
 scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 4:09 PM
 Subject: Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager 
 accessibility
 
 
 Oh, depending on what version of QT they've used, there hands really
 could be tied quite tight. That said, I'm pretty sure the iZotope
 chaps managed to get some semblance of accessibility going pre QT5, so
 it can be done.
 
 Good to know it's on the radar anyway. Thanks for keeping us informed.
 
 Scott
 
 On 1/10/14, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 Perhaps also mention that this affects Windows
 users as well, and that NVDA is a free
 screenreader they can use in their testing on the Windows side.
 
 At 03:16 PM 1/10/2014, you wrote:
 Thank you Slau, I shared this with the mag as
 well because so many of the users over there struggle with the same issue.
 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
 To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:04 AM
 Subject: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding
 iLok License Manager accessibility
 
 I was recently put in touch with the president
 and vice-president at PACE anti-Piracy, the
 makers of the iLok key and the iLok License
 Manager software. Since i made it clear that I
 wished to share their response with this
 community, I'm pasting it below. In fact, I'm
 including my original message as well. I'd
 normally not send as lengthy an email to a
 developer but, under the circumstances and,
 given it's impact, I wanted to give it a little more weight.
 
 You'll notice that the vice-president has
 responded and they're clearly aware of the issue
 and have indicated their intention to resolve
 the problem. You'll notice that in my response I
 tried to suggest that the project would surely
 not take as much work as Mr. Kirk has estimated
 but, even if their estimate turns out to be
 correct, the fact that they're still willing to
 fix it is good news. Still, I think they'll
 ultimately find that it won't be as complicated
 as it might appear. I do also suspect that the
 scope of the work as described by Mr. Kirk also
 includes the necessary work it'll take to
 migrate to a newer development platform. That
 was something that Avid experienced as well and
 is one of the reasons it took so long to get to
 the point where Avid could begin work on Pro
 Tools accessibility. Anyway, you'll find the
 initial message and subsequent responses below.
 
 Best,
 
 Slau
 
 
 On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Slau Halatyn
 mailto:s...@besharpstudios.coms...@besharpstudios.com wrote:
 
 Dear Mr. Cronce,
 
 My name is Slau Halatyn and I've been an iLok
 user since 2002 when I made the switch from an
 analog multitrack to Pro Tools HD. I'm a blind
 studio owner and trained audio engineer in New
 York City. When I witnessed the iLok system at
 work, I was impressed and, at the same time,
 relieved to not have to deal with
 challenge/response and registration code
 nightmares. Everything went quite swimmingly
 until the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a bit…
 
 I've been working with many people at avid
 including Rich Holmes and ed Gray among others
 regarding the accessibility of Pro Tools.
 Actually, that work started years before when
 David Gibbons was still at Digidesign. There
 were various obstacles to overcome while the
 company transitioned through several
 technologies but, with the new release of Pro
 Tools 11.1, we've seen incredible strides in
 improved accessibility for blind users. With
 this comes many new blind users ranging from
 students all the way to professional audio engineers and studio owners.
 
 For a time, while Pro Tools was improving in
 accessibility from version 8 through 10, the use
 of PACE's http://ilok.com/iLok.com site was
 very straight-forward and quite accessible since
 it was based on html which, if standards were
 followed, was very easy to use. Unfortunately
 for 

Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager accessibility

2014-01-10 Thread Christopher gilland
OK, then, I stand corrected.  My apology.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:33 PM
  Subject: Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager 
accessibility


  Chris,


  ILM and iLok License Manager are not the same thing. It's simply a 
coincidence that the first letters for Pace's software product work out to 
ILM but that's not the official name..


  Slau


  On Jan 10, 2014, at 10:24 PM, Christopher gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:


wo wo wo!  Wait a minute here!

ILM is Ilok Manager?  that's the same scheme used by JAWS!  JAWS made it 
accessible!  Granted, they did so without the physical ILok dongle, and yeah, 
they only give 5 activations, but! that isn't the point.  the point is, if ILok 
are the ones who made the ILM scheme, and we got it working reliably with JFW, 
who's to say it would be difficult getting it working elseware for things that 
need it.

Frankly, I see this as just lame excuse to further delay accessible 
development.  I'm saying, I see their responses as such.  Call me a jack ass 
for saying it, but that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth 
scottcheswo...@gmail.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager 
accessibility


Oh, depending on what version of QT they've used, there hands really
could be tied quite tight. That said, I'm pretty sure the iZotope
chaps managed to get some semblance of accessibility going pre QT5, so
it can be done.

Good to know it's on the radar anyway. Thanks for keeping us informed.

Scott

On 1/10/14, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:

  Perhaps also mention that this affects Windows
  users as well, and that NVDA is a free
  screenreader they can use in their testing on the Windows side.

  At 03:16 PM 1/10/2014, you wrote:

Thank you Slau, I shared this with the mag as
well because so many of the users over there struggle with the same 
issue.
- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:04 AM
Subject: PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding
iLok License Manager accessibility

I was recently put in touch with the president
and vice-president at PACE anti-Piracy, the
makers of the iLok key and the iLok License
Manager software. Since i made it clear that I
wished to share their response with this
community, I'm pasting it below. In fact, I'm
including my original message as well. I'd
normally not send as lengthy an email to a
developer but, under the circumstances and,
given it's impact, I wanted to give it a little more weight.

You'll notice that the vice-president has
responded and they're clearly aware of the issue
and have indicated their intention to resolve
the problem. You'll notice that in my response I
tried to suggest that the project would surely
not take as much work as Mr. Kirk has estimated
but, even if their estimate turns out to be
correct, the fact that they're still willing to
fix it is good news. Still, I think they'll
ultimately find that it won't be as complicated
as it might appear. I do also suspect that the
scope of the work as described by Mr. Kirk also
includes the necessary work it'll take to
migrate to a newer development platform. That
was something that Avid experienced as well and
is one of the reasons it took so long to get to
the point where Avid could begin work on Pro
Tools accessibility. Anyway, you'll find the
initial message and subsequent responses below.

Best,

Slau


On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Slau Halatyn
mailto:s...@besharpstudios.coms...@besharpstudios.com wrote:

Dear Mr. Cronce,

My name is Slau Halatyn and I've been an iLok
user since 2002 when I made the switch from an
analog multitrack to Pro Tools HD. I'm a blind
studio owner and trained audio engineer in New
York City. When I witnessed the iLok system at
work, I was impressed and, at the same time,
relieved to not have to deal with
challenge/response and registration code
nightmares. Everything went quite swimmingly
until the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a bit…

I've been working with many people at avid
including Rich Holmes and ed Gray among others
regarding the accessibility of Pro Tools.
Actually, that