RE: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Poppa Bear
Steve, you could creat a bus to send your audio track through and when 
recording go and mute that bus and the audio track will still be recording the 
signal.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Sparrow
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:56 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: input monitoring

all good slau. yes that’s how i got around it yesterday. Thanks for your 
assistance. as always.

Steve

> On 22 Jan 2015, at 9:21 am, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> If you're using the computer's built-in audio, therein lies the problem if 
> you're monitoring the computer's output through the console. I'm sure there's 
> probably a better way to route signals in this case but, without knowing all 
> the details, it's impossible to suggest anything that would be feasible. For 
> what it's worth, if your track is selected, simply pressing the m key will 
> toggle mute on and off. Perhaps that'll help in the mean time.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
> 
>> hi slau, no the problem is really in the way the desk is set up. 
>> There is a computer level nobb. When you turn this up, you have an option to 
>> monitor what is being recorded, while listening to what is coming from other 
>> sauses, unfortunately the way it’sset up, it also records what ever the 
>> computer plays as well. so a feed back lupe is created. normally we do not 
>> use protools with this desk. what usually happens is we use sound forge, and 
>> studio recorder on a pc. Both of these programs do not allow you to monitor 
>> the input at all when recording, so the feedback lupe does not get 
>> created.In protools it is reversed, you hear the input level at all times. 
>> For the most part this is exactlly what i require. i was really just 
>> wondering if the input monitoring could be turned off, so as to set it up to 
>> run in the way these other programs run. As you say, i can set it up to only 
>> monitor the output of the desk, but the problem is when i replay i can not 
>> hear what is coming back until i re enable the computer. This is fine except 
>> when i’m recording voice tracks for radio i have to punch in and out very 
>> quickly and i do not have enough hands to hit command space and find this 
>> computer button at the same time.
>> this is the cause of the feedback lupe. Very difficult to explain clearly in 
>> an email. so if this does not make sense i’m sorry, and i’ll leave this 
>> thread  hear. But no it is not a software issue.  i just wondered if it 
>> could be set up differently as could be done in sonar. you would just turn 
>> input echo off in sonar and no more issue. How ever i am not for a minute 
>> bagging protools at all, there are so many things that work so well, and i 
>> love the program, it’s only a little thing really which does not effect me 
>> when i’m using a proper interface.
>> I can also find a work around on the alan and heath desk, and reroute the 
>> output if need be.
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 8:15 am, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Steve,
>>> 
>>> I'm not exactly sure what the problem is. If you're getting feedback, it's 
>>> not a software issue. Either turn down your monitor or use headphones. Why 
>>> are you getting feedback?
>>> 
>>> Option-k toggles between Auto Input and Input Only monitoring. Thus, if 
>>> you're not in record mode on a track, pressing Option-k will do nothing. 
>>> When a track is record enabled, pressing Option-k will toggle between Input 
>>> Only and Auto Input but you won't know the difference until the transport 
>>> is engaged. When the transport is engaged, Auto Input will monitor what's 
>>> being recorded. If you're not recording, the track will playback either 
>>> what's been recorded on the track or silence if there's nothing on the 
>>> track.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>>> 
 ok from what i can see, option k just let’s me monitor the input at all 
 times. What I need is the opposite. I am wondering if i can turn off the 
 input, so i don’t hear what i am recording till i play it back. I need 
 this in this situation, as i am getting a feedback lupe when using an 
 annalogue desk wit u s b capabilities. If there is an input monitor button 
 in the standard version of protools, i’d like to know, cause i certainly 
 can not find it.This would be achievable in sonar 8.5 by turning input 
 echo off. But i do not have a machine to run it at present. and i’m really 
 enjoying protools anyway.
 Steve
 
> On 22 Jan 2015, at 7:29 am, Poppa Bear  wrote:
> 
> It does on my lowly version. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
> On Behalf Of Mike Lockett
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:25 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com

routting 11rack ports

2015-01-21 Thread Rui Vilarinho
Bang Bang, a great driver right on Avid CD that came with Pro Tools   made 
Sonar recognized 11rack ports !
All good, or it should if I wasnt so tired, well I must be, because I just 
cant figger it out how I must route 11rack ports that appear! grin .


To access the DSP effects in Eleven Rack?
I must route one of the tracks in Sonar
to the "Reamp" input channel
and route the "Rig Ouput" channels
to an input in Sonar.

hmm ?  This means 2 audio tracks right?

Guys, I know that this is a Pro Tools list. Patience,  but I need to 
transitate at a slow tempo get it ?

Anyway for some time I gotta produce with both setups.
And, 11rack gotta be a must in my portable stuff right?!
Of course I'm curious with 11rack and Pro Tools together.

Thanks in advance,
Rui Vilarinho 


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Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Steve Sparrow
all good slau. yes that’s how i got around it yesterday. Thanks for your 
assistance. as always.

Steve

> On 22 Jan 2015, at 9:21 am, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> If you're using the computer's built-in audio, therein lies the problem if 
> you're monitoring the computer's output through the console. I'm sure there's 
> probably a better way to route signals in this case but, without knowing all 
> the details, it's impossible to suggest anything that would be feasible. For 
> what it's worth, if your track is selected, simply pressing the m key will 
> toggle mute on and off. Perhaps that'll help in the mean time.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
> 
>> hi slau, no the problem is really in the way the desk is set up. There is a 
>> computer level nobb. When you turn this up, you have an option to monitor 
>> what is being recorded, while listening to what is coming
>> from other sauses, unfortunately the way it’sset up, it also records what 
>> ever the computer plays as well. so a feed back lupe is created. normally we 
>> do not use protools with this desk. what usually happens is we use sound 
>> forge, and studio recorder on a pc. Both of these programs do not allow you 
>> to monitor the input at all when recording, so the feedback lupe does not 
>> get created.In protools it is reversed, you hear the input level at all 
>> times. For the most part this is exactlly what i require. i was really just 
>> wondering if the input monitoring could be turned off, so as to set it up to 
>> run in the way these other programs run. As you say, i can set it up to only 
>> monitor the output of the desk, but the problem is when i replay i can not 
>> hear what is coming back until i re enable the computer. This is fine except 
>> when i’m recording voice tracks for radio i have to punch in and out very 
>> quickly and i do not have enough hands to hit command space and find this 
>> computer button at the same time. 
>> this is the cause of the feedback lupe. Very difficult to explain clearly in 
>> an email. so if this does not make sense i’m sorry, and i’ll leave this 
>> thread  hear. But no it is not a software issue.  i just wondered if it 
>> could be set up differently as could be done in sonar. you would just turn 
>> input echo off in sonar and no more issue. How ever i am not for a minute 
>> bagging protools at all, there are so many things that work so well, and i 
>> love the program, it’s only a little thing really which does not effect me 
>> when i’m using a proper interface.
>> I can also find a work around on the alan and heath desk, and reroute the 
>> output if need be.
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 8:15 am, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Steve,
>>> 
>>> I'm not exactly sure what the problem is. If you're getting feedback, it's 
>>> not a software issue. Either turn down your monitor or use headphones. Why 
>>> are you getting feedback?
>>> 
>>> Option-k toggles between Auto Input and Input Only monitoring. Thus, if 
>>> you're not in record mode on a track, pressing Option-k will do nothing. 
>>> When a track is record enabled, pressing Option-k will toggle between Input 
>>> Only and Auto Input but you won't know the difference until the transport 
>>> is engaged. When the transport is engaged, Auto Input will monitor what's 
>>> being recorded. If you're not recording, the track will playback either 
>>> what's been recorded on the track or silence if there's nothing on the 
>>> track.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>>> 
 ok from what i can see, option k just let’s me monitor the input at all 
 times. What I need is the opposite. I am wondering if i can turn off the 
 input, so i don’t hear what i am recording till i play it back. I need 
 this in this situation, as i am getting a feedback lupe when using an 
 annalogue desk wit u s b capabilities. If there is an input monitor button 
 in the standard version of protools, i’d like to know, cause i certainly 
 can not find it.This would be achievable in sonar 8.5 by turning input 
 echo off. But i do not have a machine to run it at present. and i’m really 
 enjoying protools anyway.
 Steve
 
> On 22 Jan 2015, at 7:29 am, Poppa Bear  wrote:
> 
> It does on my lowly version. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mike Lockett
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:25 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: input monitoring
> 
> Sorry was typing yeah HD.
> I’am sure Option-K should still give you what you are looking for.
> Just toggle to hear playback.
> 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Steve Sparrow  
> wrote:
> 
>> no i have nothing like that here. to the left of track record enabled is 
>> the pan nob. it’s the same in protoo

Re: 11rack drivers

2015-01-21 Thread Rui Vilarinho

Thanks brother.
Stupid of me, can you believe  that came with the Pro Tools  package some CD 
with all drivers for Pro Tools?

was right in front of me ! grin .
Thanks for your tip,
Rui Vilarinho
- Original Message - 
From: "Poppa Bear" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: 11rack drivers


It should be plug and play once you get Pro tools going. As far as Sonar, 
I am not sure. You would probably have to dig around in some forems.


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From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Rui Vilarinho

Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:33 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: 11rack drivers

Hi guys, I just receive my 11rack, and let me tell you ... as stand alone 
just listening through my linear headphones the sound is in did great I 
must say .
Scroling presets and making ajustments is  like a normal guitar amp, 
straight forward.

It's a 2unit rack, great stuff.
Came with Pro Tools and  ilok gismo.
Very soon I'm gonna mount my Mac Pro and of course Pro Tools.
Now, the question is; when I plug it to the Mac Pro will be plug and play, 
specially Pro Tools will recognize it?  or do I gonna need to get any 
driver ?

Probably not since is Mac world, but need to question anyway .

Also, since I've got my laptop  2core windows XP  with Sonar 8.5 , of 
course I try it out to check if Sonar recognize 11rack ports.

Well, windows recognized 11rack, and after instaling
Eleven_Rack_Driver_1_1_9_Win_83629 driver nothing  on Sonar side!
Avid 11rack control appears on control pannel and programmes , but not on 
windows sound device and the same on Sonar.

So, any ideas? of how can I make it appearing on Sonar?!
Thanks in advance,
Rui Vilarinho

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Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Steve Sparrow
both, when ever a track is armed. but i think it’s really something in the way 
the desk is set up. I know exactly where  the feedback is coming from. I’ll 
work around it.
Thanks to all who tried to help with this.
Steve

> On 22 Jan 2015, at 9:15 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
> 
> Hey Steve,
> are you getting feedback when the transport is engaged,  or stopped
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Poppa Bear  wrote:
> 
>> It does on my lowly version. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mike Lockett
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:25 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: input monitoring
>> 
>> Sorry was typing yeah HD.
>> I’am sure Option-K should still give you what you are looking for.
>> Just toggle to hear playback.
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>> 
>>> no i have nothing like that here. to the left of track record enabled is 
>>> the pan nob. it’s the same in protools 10 and 11.are you running protools h 
>>> d. or is there something missing in my protools.
>>> Steve
>>> 
 On 22 Jan 2015, at 6:32 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
 
 Steve,
 just below the Pan Knob,
 it should read “track input monitor"
 
 To the left of track record enable.
 On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Steve Sparrow  
 wrote:
 
> hi mike,
>> i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like what 
>> i’m looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left of the 
>> record button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan nob and to 
>> the right of it  i have solo i think. or am i looking in the wrong place.
> I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it.
> Thanks Steve
> 
>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you 
>> have to switch back to auto input.
>> Also make sure the track input monitor button  is deselected… That 
>> button is just left of the record select button.
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to 
>>> allow me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is 
>>> stopped the input still comes through. For some reason i can not seem 
>>> to record in this mode. not sure why.
>>> 
>>> I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when 
>>> actually recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a 
>>> problem when using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what 
>>> ever, but i did encounter a problem when using the alan and heath z 18 
>>> today. this is a basic annalogue desk with u s b capabilities. So you 
>>> can plug your computer in to it and start recording. I have used a pc 
>>> with this desk and used programs like sound forge , and studio 
>>> recorder. these programs to my knoledge do not let you hear the input 
>>> at all, so the problem is not there. In sonar on a pc, you can enable 
>>> or disable the inputut monitoring, they call it input echo, so this 
>>> task could be achieved easily, But i can't see a way of doing this in 
>>> protools short of muting the track when you record. If you are 
>>> recording a voice track, and want to do a lot of punching in and out, 
>>> this would be really hard to carry out.
>>> 
>>> It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i 
>>> would not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
>>> Steve
>>> 
 On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
 
 Hi Steve,
 
 Option k toggles on and off.
 
 John
 
 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in 
> protools when recording. 
> you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i 
> would not want to run this way, but i had protools running through an 
> analogue desk today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer 
> through the u s b feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some 
> feedback. the machine they generally use does not monitor the input 
> when recording. so i’m wondering if it’s possible to do this within 
> protools.
> or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal 
> sauce.
> Steve
> 
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Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Steve,

If you're using the computer's built-in audio, therein lies the problem if 
you're monitoring the computer's output through the console. I'm sure there's 
probably a better way to route signals in this case but, without knowing all 
the details, it's impossible to suggest anything that would be feasible. For 
what it's worth, if your track is selected, simply pressing the m key will 
toggle mute on and off. Perhaps that'll help in the mean time.

Best,

Slau

On Jan 21, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:

> hi slau, no the problem is really in the way the desk is set up. There is a 
> computer level nobb. When you turn this up, you have an option to monitor 
> what is being recorded, while listening to what is coming
> from other sauses, unfortunately the way it’sset up, it also records what 
> ever the computer plays as well. so a feed back lupe is created. normally we 
> do not use protools with this desk. what usually happens is we use sound 
> forge, and studio recorder on a pc. Both of these programs do not allow you 
> to monitor the input at all when recording, so the feedback lupe does not get 
> created.In protools it is reversed, you hear the input level at all times. 
> For the most part this is exactlly what i require. i was really just 
> wondering if the input monitoring could be turned off, so as to set it up to 
> run in the way these other programs run. As you say, i can set it up to only 
> monitor the output of the desk, but the problem is when i replay i can not 
> hear what is coming back until i re enable the computer. This is fine except 
> when i’m recording voice tracks for radio i have to punch in and out very 
> quickly and i do not have enough hands to hit command space and find this 
> computer button at the same time. 
> this is the cause of the feedback lupe. Very difficult to explain clearly in 
> an email. so if this does not make sense i’m sorry, and i’ll leave this 
> thread  hear. But no it is not a software issue.  i just wondered if it could 
> be set up differently as could be done in sonar. you would just turn input 
> echo off in sonar and no more issue. How ever i am not for a minute bagging 
> protools at all, there are so many things that work so well, and i love the 
> program, it’s only a little thing really which does not effect me when i’m 
> using a proper interface.
> I can also find a work around on the alan and heath desk, and reroute the 
> output if need be.
> Steve
> 
> 
>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 8:15 am, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> 
>> Steve,
>> 
>> I'm not exactly sure what the problem is. If you're getting feedback, it's 
>> not a software issue. Either turn down your monitor or use headphones. Why 
>> are you getting feedback?
>> 
>> Option-k toggles between Auto Input and Input Only monitoring. Thus, if 
>> you're not in record mode on a track, pressing Option-k will do nothing. 
>> When a track is record enabled, pressing Option-k will toggle between Input 
>> Only and Auto Input but you won't know the difference until the transport is 
>> engaged. When the transport is engaged, Auto Input will monitor what's being 
>> recorded. If you're not recording, the track will playback either what's 
>> been recorded on the track or silence if there's nothing on the track.
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>> 
>>> ok from what i can see, option k just let’s me monitor the input at all 
>>> times. What I need is the opposite. I am wondering if i can turn off the 
>>> input, so i don’t hear what i am recording till i play it back. I need this 
>>> in this situation, as i am getting a feedback lupe when using an annalogue 
>>> desk wit u s b capabilities. If there is an input monitor button in the 
>>> standard version of protools, i’d like to know, cause i certainly can not 
>>> find it.This would be achievable in sonar 8.5 by turning input echo off. 
>>> But i do not have a machine to run it at present. and i’m really enjoying 
>>> protools anyway.
>>> Steve
>>> 
 On 22 Jan 2015, at 7:29 am, Poppa Bear  wrote:
 
 It does on my lowly version. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mike Lockett
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:25 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: input monitoring
 
 Sorry was typing yeah HD.
 I’am sure Option-K should still give you what you are looking for.
 Just toggle to hear playback.
 
 On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Steve Sparrow  
 wrote:
 
> no i have nothing like that here. to the left of track record enabled is 
> the pan nob. it’s the same in protools 10 and 11.are you running protools 
> h d. or is there something missing in my protools.
> Steve
> 
>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 6:32 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
>> 
>> Steve,
>> just below the Pan Knob,
>> it should read “track input monitor"
>>

Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Mike Lockett
Hey Steve,
are you getting feedback when the transport is engaged,  or stopped
On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Poppa Bear  wrote:

> It does on my lowly version. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Mike Lockett
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:25 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: input monitoring
> 
> Sorry was typing yeah HD.
> I’am sure Option-K should still give you what you are looking for.
> Just toggle to hear playback.
> 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
> 
>> no i have nothing like that here. to the left of track record enabled is the 
>> pan nob. it’s the same in protools 10 and 11.are you running protools h d. 
>> or is there something missing in my protools.
>> Steve
>> 
>>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 6:32 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Steve,
>>> just below the Pan Knob,
>>> it should read “track input monitor"
>>> 
>>> To the left of track record enable.
>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>>> 
 hi mike,
> i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like what 
> i’m looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left of the 
> record button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan nob and to 
> the right of it  i have solo i think. or am i looking in the wrong place.
 I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it.
 Thanks Steve
 
> On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
> 
> Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you have 
> to switch back to auto input.
> Also make sure the track input monitor button  is deselected… That 
> button is just left of the record select button.
> 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to 
>> allow me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is 
>> stopped the input still comes through. For some reason i can not seem to 
>> record in this mode. not sure why.
>> 
>> I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when 
>> actually recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a 
>> problem when using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what 
>> ever, but i did encounter a problem when using the alan and heath z 18 
>> today. this is a basic annalogue desk with u s b capabilities. So you 
>> can plug your computer in to it and start recording. I have used a pc 
>> with this desk and used programs like sound forge , and studio recorder. 
>> these programs to my knoledge do not let you hear the input at all, so 
>> the problem is not there. In sonar on a pc, you can enable or disable 
>> the inputut monitoring, they call it input echo, so this task could be 
>> achieved easily, But i can't see a way of doing this in protools short 
>> of muting the track when you record. If you are recording a voice track, 
>> and want to do a lot of punching in and out, this would be really hard 
>> to carry out.
>> 
>> It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i 
>> would not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
>> Steve
>> 
>>> On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> 
>>> Option k toggles on and off.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  
 wrote:
 
 Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in 
 protools when recording. 
 you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i 
 would not want to run this way, but i had protools running through an 
 analogue desk today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer 
 through the u s b feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some 
 feedback. the machine they generally use does not monitor the input 
 when recording. so i’m wondering if it’s possible to do this within 
 protools.
 or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal 
 sauce.
 Steve
 
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Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Steve Sparrow
hi slau, no the problem is really in the way the desk is set up. There is a 
computer level nobb. When you turn this up, you have an option to monitor what 
is being recorded, while listening to what is coming
 from other sauses, unfortunately the way it’sset up, it also records what ever 
the computer plays as well. so a feed back lupe is created. normally we do not 
use protools with this desk. what usually happens is we use sound forge, and 
studio recorder on a pc. Both of these programs do not allow you to monitor the 
input at all when recording, so the feedback lupe does not get created.In 
protools it is reversed, you hear the input level at all times. For the most 
part this is exactlly what i require. i was really just wondering if the input 
monitoring could be turned off, so as to set it up to run in the way these 
other programs run. As you say, i can set it up to only monitor the output of 
the desk, but the problem is when i replay i can not hear what is coming back 
until i re enable the computer. This is fine except when i’m recording voice 
tracks for radio i have to punch in and out very quickly and i do not have 
enough hands to hit command space and find this computer button at the same 
time. 
this is the cause of the feedback lupe. Very difficult to explain clearly in an 
email. so if this does not make sense i’m sorry, and i’ll leave this thread  
hear. But no it is not a software issue.  i just wondered if it could be set up 
differently as could be done in sonar. you would just turn input echo off in 
sonar and no more issue. How ever i am not for a minute bagging protools at 
all, there are so many things that work so well, and i love the program, it’s 
only a little thing really which does not effect me when i’m using a proper 
interface.
I can also find a work around on the alan and heath desk, and reroute the 
output if need be.
Steve


> On 22 Jan 2015, at 8:15 am, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> 
> I'm not exactly sure what the problem is. If you're getting feedback, it's 
> not a software issue. Either turn down your monitor or use headphones. Why 
> are you getting feedback?
> 
> Option-k toggles between Auto Input and Input Only monitoring. Thus, if 
> you're not in record mode on a track, pressing Option-k will do nothing. When 
> a track is record enabled, pressing Option-k will toggle between Input Only 
> and Auto Input but you won't know the difference until the transport is 
> engaged. When the transport is engaged, Auto Input will monitor what's being 
> recorded. If you're not recording, the track will playback either what's been 
> recorded on the track or silence if there's nothing on the track.
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
> 
>> ok from what i can see, option k just let’s me monitor the input at all 
>> times. What I need is the opposite. I am wondering if i can turn off the 
>> input, so i don’t hear what i am recording till i play it back. I need this 
>> in this situation, as i am getting a feedback lupe when using an annalogue 
>> desk wit u s b capabilities. If there is an input monitor button in the 
>> standard version of protools, i’d like to know, cause i certainly can not 
>> find it.This would be achievable in sonar 8.5 by turning input echo off. But 
>> i do not have a machine to run it at present. and i’m really enjoying 
>> protools anyway.
>> Steve
>> 
>>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 7:29 am, Poppa Bear  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It does on my lowly version. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Mike Lockett
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:25 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: input monitoring
>>> 
>>> Sorry was typing yeah HD.
>>> I’am sure Option-K should still give you what you are looking for.
>>> Just toggle to hear playback.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>>> 
 no i have nothing like that here. to the left of track record enabled is 
 the pan nob. it’s the same in protools 10 and 11.are you running protools 
 h d. or is there something missing in my protools.
 Steve
 
> On 22 Jan 2015, at 6:32 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> just below the Pan Knob,
> it should read “track input monitor"
> 
> To the left of track record enable.
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Steve Sparrow  
> wrote:
> 
>> hi mike,
>>> i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like what 
>>> i’m looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left of the 
>>> record button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan nob and 
>>> to the right of it  i have solo i think. or am i looking in the wrong 
>>> place.
>> I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it.
>> Thanks Steve
>> 
>>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Steve after you

Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Slau Halatyn
Steve,

I'm not exactly sure what the problem is. If you're getting feedback, it's not 
a software issue. Either turn down your monitor or use headphones. Why are you 
getting feedback?

Option-k toggles between Auto Input and Input Only monitoring. Thus, if you're 
not in record mode on a track, pressing Option-k will do nothing. When a track 
is record enabled, pressing Option-k will toggle between Input Only and Auto 
Input but you won't know the difference until the transport is engaged. When 
the transport is engaged, Auto Input will monitor what's being recorded. If 
you're not recording, the track will playback either what's been recorded on 
the track or silence if there's nothing on the track.

Slau

On Jan 21, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:

> ok from what i can see, option k just let’s me monitor the input at all 
> times. What I need is the opposite. I am wondering if i can turn off the 
> input, so i don’t hear what i am recording till i play it back. I need this 
> in this situation, as i am getting a feedback lupe when using an annalogue 
> desk wit u s b capabilities. If there is an input monitor button in the 
> standard version of protools, i’d like to know, cause i certainly can not 
> find it.This would be achievable in sonar 8.5 by turning input echo off. But 
> i do not have a machine to run it at present. and i’m really enjoying 
> protools anyway.
> Steve
> 
>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 7:29 am, Poppa Bear  wrote:
>> 
>> It does on my lowly version. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mike Lockett
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:25 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: input monitoring
>> 
>> Sorry was typing yeah HD.
>> I’am sure Option-K should still give you what you are looking for.
>> Just toggle to hear playback.
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>> 
>>> no i have nothing like that here. to the left of track record enabled is 
>>> the pan nob. it’s the same in protools 10 and 11.are you running protools h 
>>> d. or is there something missing in my protools.
>>> Steve
>>> 
 On 22 Jan 2015, at 6:32 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
 
 Steve,
 just below the Pan Knob,
 it should read “track input monitor"
 
 To the left of track record enable.
 On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Steve Sparrow  
 wrote:
 
> hi mike,
>> i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like what 
>> i’m looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left of the 
>> record button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan nob and to 
>> the right of it  i have solo i think. or am i looking in the wrong place.
> I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it.
> Thanks Steve
> 
>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you 
>> have to switch back to auto input.
>> Also make sure the track input monitor button  is deselected… That 
>> button is just left of the record select button.
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to 
>>> allow me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is 
>>> stopped the input still comes through. For some reason i can not seem 
>>> to record in this mode. not sure why.
>>> 
>>> I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when 
>>> actually recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a 
>>> problem when using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what 
>>> ever, but i did encounter a problem when using the alan and heath z 18 
>>> today. this is a basic annalogue desk with u s b capabilities. So you 
>>> can plug your computer in to it and start recording. I have used a pc 
>>> with this desk and used programs like sound forge , and studio 
>>> recorder. these programs to my knoledge do not let you hear the input 
>>> at all, so the problem is not there. In sonar on a pc, you can enable 
>>> or disable the inputut monitoring, they call it input echo, so this 
>>> task could be achieved easily, But i can't see a way of doing this in 
>>> protools short of muting the track when you record. If you are 
>>> recording a voice track, and want to do a lot of punching in and out, 
>>> this would be really hard to carry out.
>>> 
>>> It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i 
>>> would not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
>>> Steve
>>> 
 On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
 
 Hi Steve,
 
 Option k toggles on and off.
 
 John
 
 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:

Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Steve Sparrow
ok from what i can see, option k just let’s me monitor the input at all times. 
What I need is the opposite. I am wondering if i can turn off the input, so i 
don’t hear what i am recording till i play it back. I need this in this 
situation, as i am getting a feedback lupe when using an annalogue desk wit u s 
b capabilities. If there is an input monitor button in the standard version of 
protools, i’d like to know, cause i certainly can not find it.This would be 
achievable in sonar 8.5 by turning input echo off. But i do not have a machine 
to run it at present. and i’m really enjoying protools anyway.
Steve

> On 22 Jan 2015, at 7:29 am, Poppa Bear  wrote:
> 
> It does on my lowly version. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Mike Lockett
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:25 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: input monitoring
> 
> Sorry was typing yeah HD.
> I’am sure Option-K should still give you what you are looking for.
> Just toggle to hear playback.
> 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
> 
>> no i have nothing like that here. to the left of track record enabled is the 
>> pan nob. it’s the same in protools 10 and 11.are you running protools h d. 
>> or is there something missing in my protools.
>> Steve
>> 
>>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 6:32 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Steve,
>>> just below the Pan Knob,
>>> it should read “track input monitor"
>>> 
>>> To the left of track record enable.
>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>>> 
 hi mike,
> i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like what 
> i’m looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left of the 
> record button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan nob and to 
> the right of it  i have solo i think. or am i looking in the wrong place.
 I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it.
 Thanks Steve
 
> On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
> 
> Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you have 
> to switch back to auto input.
> Also make sure the track input monitor button  is deselected… That 
> button is just left of the record select button.
> 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to 
>> allow me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is 
>> stopped the input still comes through. For some reason i can not seem to 
>> record in this mode. not sure why.
>> 
>> I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when 
>> actually recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a 
>> problem when using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what 
>> ever, but i did encounter a problem when using the alan and heath z 18 
>> today. this is a basic annalogue desk with u s b capabilities. So you 
>> can plug your computer in to it and start recording. I have used a pc 
>> with this desk and used programs like sound forge , and studio recorder. 
>> these programs to my knoledge do not let you hear the input at all, so 
>> the problem is not there. In sonar on a pc, you can enable or disable 
>> the inputut monitoring, they call it input echo, so this task could be 
>> achieved easily, But i can't see a way of doing this in protools short 
>> of muting the track when you record. If you are recording a voice track, 
>> and want to do a lot of punching in and out, this would be really hard 
>> to carry out.
>> 
>> It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i 
>> would not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
>> Steve
>> 
>>> On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> 
>>> Option k toggles on and off.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  
 wrote:
 
 Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in 
 protools when recording. 
 you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i 
 would not want to run this way, but i had protools running through an 
 analogue desk today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer 
 through the u s b feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some 
 feedback. the machine they generally use does not monitor the input 
 when recording. so i’m wondering if it’s possible to do this within 
 protools.
 or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal 
 sauce.
 Steve
 
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RE: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Poppa Bear
It does on my lowly version. 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Lockett
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:25 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: input monitoring

Sorry was typing yeah HD.
I’am sure Option-K should still give you what you are looking for.
Just toggle to hear playback.
 
On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:

> no i have nothing like that here. to the left of track record enabled is the 
> pan nob. it’s the same in protools 10 and 11.are you running protools h d. or 
> is there something missing in my protools.
> Steve
> 
>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 6:32 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
>> 
>> Steve,
>> just below the Pan Knob,
>> it should read “track input monitor"
>> 
>> To the left of track record enable.
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>> 
>>> hi mike,
 i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like what i’m 
 looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left of the record 
 button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan nob and to the 
 right of it  i have solo i think. or am i looking in the wrong place.
>>> I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it.
>>> Thanks Steve
>>> 
 On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
 
 Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you have 
 to switch back to auto input.
 Also make sure the track input monitor button  is deselected… That 
 button is just left of the record select button.
 
 On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow  
 wrote:
 
> Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to 
> allow me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is 
> stopped the input still comes through. For some reason i can not seem to 
> record in this mode. not sure why.
> 
> I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when 
> actually recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a 
> problem when using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what 
> ever, but i did encounter a problem when using the alan and heath z 18 
> today. this is a basic annalogue desk with u s b capabilities. So you can 
> plug your computer in to it and start recording. I have used a pc with 
> this desk and used programs like sound forge , and studio recorder. these 
> programs to my knoledge do not let you hear the input at all, so the 
> problem is not there. In sonar on a pc, you can enable or disable the 
> inputut monitoring, they call it input echo, so this task could be 
> achieved easily, But i can't see a way of doing this in protools short of 
> muting the track when you record. If you are recording a voice track, and 
> want to do a lot of punching in and out, this would be really hard to 
> carry out.
> 
> It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i 
> would not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
> Steve
> 
>> On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Steve,
>> 
>> Option k toggles on and off.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in 
>>> protools when recording. 
>>> you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i 
>>> would not want to run this way, but i had protools running through an 
>>> analogue desk today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer 
>>> through the u s b feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some 
>>> feedback. the machine they generally use does not monitor the input 
>>> when recording. so i’m wondering if it’s possible to do this within 
>>> protools.
>>> or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal 
>>> sauce.
>>> Steve
>>> 
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Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Mike Lockett
Sorry was typing yeah HD.
I’am sure Option-K should still give you what you are looking for.
Just toggle to hear playback.
 
On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:

> no i have nothing like that here. to the left of track record enabled is the 
> pan nob. it’s the same in protools 10 and 11.are you running protools h d. or 
> is there something missing in my protools.
> Steve
> 
>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 6:32 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
>> 
>> Steve,
>> just below the Pan Knob,
>> it should read “track input monitor"
>> 
>> To the left of track record enable.
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>> 
>>> hi mike, 
 i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like what i’m 
 looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left of the record 
 button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan nob and to the 
 right of it  i have solo i think. or am i looking in the wrong place.
>>> I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it.
>>> Thanks Steve
>>> 
 On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
 
 Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you have 
 to switch back to auto input.
 Also make sure the track input monitor button  is deselected… 
 That button is just left of the record select button.
 
 On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow  
 wrote:
 
> Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to 
> allow me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is 
> stopped the input still comes through. For some reason i can not seem to 
> record in this mode. not sure why.
> 
> I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when 
> actually recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a 
> problem when using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what 
> ever, but i did encounter a problem when using the alan and heath z 18 
> today. this is a basic annalogue desk with u s b capabilities. So you can 
> plug your computer in to it and start recording. I have used a pc with 
> this desk and used programs like sound forge , and studio recorder. these 
> programs to my knoledge do not let you hear the input at all, so the 
> problem is not there. In sonar on a pc, you can enable or disable the 
> inputut monitoring, they call it input echo, so this task could be 
> achieved easily, But i can't see a way of doing this in protools short of 
> muting the track when you record. If you are recording a voice track, and 
> want to do a lot of punching in and out, this would be really hard to 
> carry out.
> 
> It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i 
> would not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
> Steve
> 
>> On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Steve,
>> 
>> Option k toggles on and off.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in 
>>> protools when recording. 
>>> you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i 
>>> would not want to run this way, but i had protools running through an 
>>> analogue desk today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer 
>>> through the u s b feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some 
>>> feedback. the machine they generally use does not monitor the input 
>>> when recording. so i’m wondering if it’s possible to do this within 
>>> protools.
>>> or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal 
>>> sauce.
>>> Steve
>>> 
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2015-01-21 Thread Steve Sparrow
ok mike. thanks for your help, i’ll give it a run.
Sounds like i may need h d at some stage if it does things like that.
 I’ve seen some other nice stuff in there.
Steve
> On 22 Jan 2015, at 7:16 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
> 
> Steve one more thing,
> If you go  Setup, Preferences Operations,
> check “PEC track input monitoring, so now when you Option-K it will switch 
> with out you having to toggle the track input button…
> and forgive me if this function is HD only.
> 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
> 
>> hi mike, 
>>> i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like what i’m 
>>> looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left of the record 
>>> button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan nob and to the right 
>>> of it  i have solo i think. or am i looking in the wrong place.
>> I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it.
>> Thanks Steve
>> 
>>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you have 
>>> to switch back to auto input.
>>> Also make sure the track input monitor button  is deselected… 
>>> That button is just left of the record select button.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to 
 allow me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is 
 stopped the input still comes through. For some reason i can not seem to 
 record in this mode. not sure why.
 
 I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when 
 actually recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a 
 problem when using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what ever, 
 but i did encounter a problem when using the alan and heath z 18 today. 
 this is a basic annalogue desk with u s b capabilities. So you can plug 
 your computer in to it and start recording. I have used a pc with this 
 desk and used programs like sound forge , and studio recorder. these 
 programs to my knoledge do not let you hear the input at all, so the 
 problem is not there. In sonar on a pc, you can enable or disable the 
 inputut monitoring, they call it input echo, so this task could be 
 achieved easily, But i can't see a way of doing this in protools short of 
 muting the track when you record. If you are recording a voice track, and 
 want to do a lot of punching in and out, this would be really hard to 
 carry out.
 
 It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i 
 would not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
 Steve
 
> On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> Option k toggles on and off.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in 
>> protools when recording. 
>> you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i 
>> would not want to run this way, but i had protools running through an 
>> analogue desk today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer 
>> through the u s b feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some 
>> feedback. the machine they generally use does not monitor the input when 
>> recording. so i’m wondering if it’s possible to do this within protools.
>> or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal sauce.
>> Steve
>> 
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RE: 11rack drivers

2015-01-21 Thread Poppa Bear
It should be plug and play once you get Pro tools going. As far as Sonar, I am 
not sure. You would probably have to dig around in some forems.

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Hi guys, I just receive my 11rack, and let me tell you ... as stand alone just 
listening through my linear headphones the sound is in did great I must say .
Scroling presets and making ajustments is  like a normal guitar amp, straight 
forward.
It's a 2unit rack, great stuff.
Came with Pro Tools and  ilok gismo.
Very soon I'm gonna mount my Mac Pro and of course Pro Tools.
Now, the question is; when I plug it to the Mac Pro will be plug and play, 
specially Pro Tools will recognize it?  or do I gonna need to get any driver ?
Probably not since is Mac world, but need to question anyway .

Also, since I've got my laptop  2core windows XP  with Sonar 8.5 , of course I 
try it out to check if Sonar recognize 11rack ports.
Well, windows recognized 11rack, and after instaling
Eleven_Rack_Driver_1_1_9_Win_83629 driver nothing  on Sonar side!
Avid 11rack control appears on control pannel and programmes , but not on 
windows sound device and the same on Sonar.
So, any ideas? of how can I make it appearing on Sonar?!
Thanks in advance,
Rui Vilarinho

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Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Mike Lockett
Steve one more thing,
If you go  Setup, Preferences Operations,
check “PEC track input monitoring, so now when you Option-K it will switch with 
out you having to toggle the track input button…
and forgive me if this function is HD only.
 
On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:

> hi mike, 
>> i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like what i’m 
>> looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left of the record 
>> button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan nob and to the right 
>> of it  i have solo i think. or am i looking in the wrong place.
> I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it.
> Thanks Steve
> 
>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you have to 
>> switch back to auto input.
>> Also make sure the track input monitor button  is deselected… 
>> That button is just left of the record select button.
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to 
>>> allow me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is stopped 
>>> the input still comes through. For some reason i can not seem to record in 
>>> this mode. not sure why.
>>> 
>>> I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when 
>>> actually recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a 
>>> problem when using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what ever, 
>>> but i did encounter a problem when using the alan and heath z 18 today. 
>>> this is a basic annalogue desk with u s b capabilities. So you can plug 
>>> your computer in to it and start recording. I have used a pc with this desk 
>>> and used programs like sound forge , and studio recorder. these programs to 
>>> my knoledge do not let you hear the input at all, so the problem is not 
>>> there. In sonar on a pc, you can enable or disable the inputut monitoring, 
>>> they call it input echo, so this task could be achieved easily, But i can't 
>>> see a way of doing this in protools short of muting the track when you 
>>> record. If you are recording a voice track, and want to do a lot of 
>>> punching in and out, this would be really hard to carry out.
>>> 
>>> It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i 
>>> would not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
>>> Steve
>>> 
 On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
 
 Hi Steve,
 
 Option k toggles on and off.
 
 John
 
 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in 
> protools when recording. 
> you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i would 
> not want to run this way, but i had protools running through an analogue 
> desk today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer through the 
> u s b feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some feedback. the 
> machine they generally use does not monitor the input when recording. so 
> i’m wondering if it’s possible to do this within protools.
> or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal sauce.
> Steve
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Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Steve Sparrow
no i have nothing like that here. to the left of track record enabled is the 
pan nob. it’s the same in protools 10 and 11.are you running protools h d. or 
is there something missing in my protools.
Steve

> On 22 Jan 2015, at 6:32 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> just below the Pan Knob,
> it should read “track input monitor"
> 
> To the left of track record enable.
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
> 
>> hi mike, 
>>> i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like what i’m 
>>> looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left of the record 
>>> button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan nob and to the right 
>>> of it  i have solo i think. or am i looking in the wrong place.
>> I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it.
>> Thanks Steve
>> 
>>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you have 
>>> to switch back to auto input.
>>> Also make sure the track input monitor button  is deselected… 
>>> That button is just left of the record select button.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to 
 allow me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is 
 stopped the input still comes through. For some reason i can not seem to 
 record in this mode. not sure why.
 
 I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when 
 actually recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a 
 problem when using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what ever, 
 but i did encounter a problem when using the alan and heath z 18 today. 
 this is a basic annalogue desk with u s b capabilities. So you can plug 
 your computer in to it and start recording. I have used a pc with this 
 desk and used programs like sound forge , and studio recorder. these 
 programs to my knoledge do not let you hear the input at all, so the 
 problem is not there. In sonar on a pc, you can enable or disable the 
 inputut monitoring, they call it input echo, so this task could be 
 achieved easily, But i can't see a way of doing this in protools short of 
 muting the track when you record. If you are recording a voice track, and 
 want to do a lot of punching in and out, this would be really hard to 
 carry out.
 
 It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i 
 would not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
 Steve
 
> On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> Option k toggles on and off.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in 
>> protools when recording. 
>> you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i 
>> would not want to run this way, but i had protools running through an 
>> analogue desk today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer 
>> through the u s b feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some 
>> feedback. the machine they generally use does not monitor the input when 
>> recording. so i’m wondering if it’s possible to do this within protools.
>> or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal sauce.
>> Steve
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Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Mike Lockett
Steve,
just below the Pan Knob,
it should read “track input monitor"

To the left of track record enable.
On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:

> hi mike, 
>> i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like what i’m 
>> looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left of the record 
>> button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan nob and to the right 
>> of it  i have solo i think. or am i looking in the wrong place.
> I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it.
> Thanks Steve
> 
>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you have to 
>> switch back to auto input.
>> Also make sure the track input monitor button  is deselected… 
>> That button is just left of the record select button.
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to 
>>> allow me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is stopped 
>>> the input still comes through. For some reason i can not seem to record in 
>>> this mode. not sure why.
>>> 
>>> I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when 
>>> actually recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a 
>>> problem when using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what ever, 
>>> but i did encounter a problem when using the alan and heath z 18 today. 
>>> this is a basic annalogue desk with u s b capabilities. So you can plug 
>>> your computer in to it and start recording. I have used a pc with this desk 
>>> and used programs like sound forge , and studio recorder. these programs to 
>>> my knoledge do not let you hear the input at all, so the problem is not 
>>> there. In sonar on a pc, you can enable or disable the inputut monitoring, 
>>> they call it input echo, so this task could be achieved easily, But i can't 
>>> see a way of doing this in protools short of muting the track when you 
>>> record. If you are recording a voice track, and want to do a lot of 
>>> punching in and out, this would be really hard to carry out.
>>> 
>>> It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i 
>>> would not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
>>> Steve
>>> 
 On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
 
 Hi Steve,
 
 Option k toggles on and off.
 
 John
 
 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in 
> protools when recording. 
> you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i would 
> not want to run this way, but i had protools running through an analogue 
> desk today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer through the 
> u s b feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some feedback. the 
> machine they generally use does not monitor the input when recording. so 
> i’m wondering if it’s possible to do this within protools.
> or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal sauce.
> Steve
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Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Steve Sparrow
hi mike, 
> i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like what i’m 
> looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left of the record 
> button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan nob and to the right 
> of it  i have solo i think. or am i looking in the wrong place.
 I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it.
Thanks Steve

> On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett  wrote:
> 
> Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you have to 
> switch back to auto input.
> Also make sure the track input monitor button  is deselected… 
> That button is just left of the record select button.
> 
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
> 
>> Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to allow 
>> me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is stopped the 
>> input still comes through. For some reason i can not seem to record in this 
>> mode. not sure why.
>> 
>> I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when actually 
>> recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a problem when 
>> using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what ever, but i did 
>> encounter a problem when using the alan and heath z 18 today. this is a 
>> basic annalogue desk with u s b capabilities. So you can plug your computer 
>> in to it and start recording. I have used a pc with this desk and used 
>> programs like sound forge , and studio recorder. these programs to my 
>> knoledge do not let you hear the input at all, so the problem is not there. 
>> In sonar on a pc, you can enable or disable the inputut monitoring, they 
>> call it input echo, so this task could be achieved easily, But i can't see a 
>> way of doing this in protools short of muting the track when you record. If 
>> you are recording a voice track, and want to do a lot of punching in and 
>> out, this would be really hard to carry out.
>> 
>> It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i would 
>> not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
>> Steve
>> 
>>> On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> 
>>> Option k toggles on and off.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  
 wrote:
 
 Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in 
 protools when recording. 
 you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i would 
 not want to run this way, but i had protools running through an analogue 
 desk today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer through the u 
 s b feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some feedback. the 
 machine they generally use does not monitor the input when recording. so 
 i’m wondering if it’s possible to do this within protools.
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11rack drivers

2015-01-21 Thread Rui Vilarinho
Hi guys, I just receive my 11rack, and let me tell you ... as stand alone 
just listening through my linear headphones the sound is in did great I must 
say .
Scroling presets and making ajustments is  like a normal guitar amp, 
straight forward.

It's a 2unit rack, great stuff.
Came with Pro Tools and  ilok gismo.
Very soon I'm gonna mount my Mac Pro and of course Pro Tools.
Now, the question is; when I plug it to the Mac Pro will be plug and play, 
specially Pro Tools will recognize it?  or do I gonna need to get any driver 
?

Probably not since is Mac world, but need to question anyway .

Also, since I've got my laptop  2core windows XP  with Sonar 8.5 , of course 
I try it out to check if Sonar recognize 11rack ports.
Well, windows recognized 11rack, and after instaling 
Eleven_Rack_Driver_1_1_9_Win_83629 driver

nothing  on Sonar side!
Avid 11rack control appears on control pannel and programmes , but not on 
windows sound device and the same on Sonar.

So, any ideas? of how can I make it appearing on Sonar?!
Thanks in advance,
Rui Vilarinho

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Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Mike Lockett
Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you have to 
switch back to auto input.
Also make sure the track input monitor button  is deselected… 
That button is just left of the record select button.
 
On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:

> Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to allow 
> me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is stopped the 
> input still comes through. For some reason i can not seem to record in this 
> mode. not sure why.
> 
> I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when actually 
> recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a problem when 
> using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what ever, but i did 
> encounter a problem when using the alan and heath z 18 today. this is a basic 
> annalogue desk with u s b capabilities. So you can plug your computer in to 
> it and start recording. I have used a pc with this desk and used programs 
> like sound forge , and studio recorder. these programs to my knoledge do not 
> let you hear the input at all, so the problem is not there. In sonar on a pc, 
> you can enable or disable the inputut monitoring, they call it input echo, so 
> this task could be achieved easily, But i can't see a way of doing this in 
> protools short of muting the track when you record. If you are recording a 
> voice track, and want to do a lot of punching in and out, this would be 
> really hard to carry out.
> 
> It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i would 
> not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
> Steve
> 
>> On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Steve,
>> 
>> Option k toggles on and off.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in 
>>> protools when recording. 
>>> you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i would 
>>> not want to run this way, but i had protools running through an analogue 
>>> desk today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer through the u 
>>> s b feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some feedback. the machine 
>>> they generally use does not monitor the input when recording. so i’m 
>>> wondering if it’s possible to do this within protools.
>>> or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal sauce.
>>> Steve
>>> 
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Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Steve Sparrow
Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems to allow me 
to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport is stopped the input 
still comes through. For some reason i can not seem to record in this mode. not 
sure why.

I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when actually 
recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not a problem when using 
a proper interface like presonis or motu, or what ever, but i did encounter a 
problem when using the alan and heath z 18 today. this is a basic annalogue 
desk with u s b capabilities. So you can plug your computer in to it and start 
recording. I have used a pc with this desk and used programs like sound forge , 
and studio recorder. these programs to my knoledge do not let you hear the 
input at all, so the problem is not there. In sonar on a pc, you can enable or 
disable the inputut monitoring, they call it input echo, so this task could be 
achieved easily, But i can't see a way of doing this in protools short of 
muting the track when you record. If you are recording a voice track, and want 
to do a lot of punching in and out, this would be really hard to carry out.

It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, i would 
not want to work this way, but need to with certain equipment.
Steve

> On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> Option k toggles on and off.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in 
>> protools when recording. 
>> you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i would 
>> not want to run this way, but i had protools running through an analogue 
>> desk today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer through the u s 
>> b feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some feedback. the machine 
>> they generally use does not monitor the input when recording. so i’m 
>> wondering if it’s possible to do this within protools.
>> or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal sauce.
>> Steve
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Re: input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread John Gunn
Hi Steve,

Option k toggles on and off.

John


> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in protools 
> when recording. 
> you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i would not 
> want to run this way, but i had protools running through an analogue desk 
> today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer through the u s b 
> feed on there desk. it worked fine but i got some feedback. the machine they 
> generally use does not monitor the input when recording. so i’m wondering if 
> it’s possible to do this within protools.
> or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal sauce.
> Steve
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input monitoring

2015-01-21 Thread Steve Sparrow
Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring in protools 
when recording. 
you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions  i would not 
want to run this way, but i had protools running through an analogue desk 
today, and to cut a long story short, i ran my computer through the u s b feed 
on there desk. it worked fine but i got some feedback. the machine they 
generally use does not monitor the input when recording. so i’m wondering if 
it’s possible to do this within protools.
 or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal sauce.
Steve

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