Re: trying to automate plugins

[Mike Lockett]

Dave,
Make sure all of your plug-in’s parameters are selected for automation.
You can hold down the three modifier keys and click to toggle all of them on 
and off.
Or go setup-preferences-mixing-automation, and check plug-in controls default 
to auto-enable.
This way when you open a session all of the plug-in parameters  are 
automatically set.
Just know some parameters are not automatable, but most are.

Hope this helps.

On Feb 15, 2015, at 7:49 PM, David Eagle  wrote:

> Hi, I’m having a little difficulty automating plugins. I load a plugin, 
> activate the automation enable button, I choose room size from the table of 
> autommatable controls, and then hit OK. I make sure my track is write 
> enabled, and that plugin automation is selected. When I move the room size 
> control I can hear the changes, but when I play it back the automation has 
> not been written. 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Control surface help

[TheOreoMonster]

insert rumblings here about why we still rely on mainling list and havent 
switched to a forum yet. I mean thanks for  passing that info along, I'll go 
get myself resubscribed.

On Feb 16, 2015, at 10:46 AM, David Eagle  wrote:

> r...@bluegrasspals.com, Address Button Double-tap to show more info. 
> Double-tap and hold, then drag up or down to move to other address fields.
> That's the new address to send reaper questions to. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 16 Feb 2015, at 15:39, Rui Vilarinho  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks buddy.
>> - Original Message - From: "David Eagle" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 3:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: Control surface help
>> 
>> 
>> Apparently, you power on the bcf by locating the fifth button from the top 
>> left, holding it down while pressing the on button. This should put it into 
>> hui mode. Unfortunately, I don't think the bcf works with plugin automation. 
>> I've not used the bcf with protools yet, but a Google search should provide 
>> more information.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 16 Feb 2015, at 14:25, Rui Vilarinho  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, whenI connect it to my Mac Pro,  should I press any button to define 
>>> my BCF2000 to Mackie HUI?
>>> Or, Pro Tools will recognize it automatically ?
>>> Yet, anybody recommends any tutorial   using it with Pro tools 11 ?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rui Vilarinho
>>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Control surface help
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HUI does indeed support plug-in control. Since the release of the original 
>>> Mackie HUI, plug-in parameters are mapped automatically, at least with Pro 
>>> Tools.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:30 AM, TheOreoMonster  
 wrote:
 
 If i am not mistaken if the surface had HUI support it should be able to 
 control plugins as well?  I need to see what’s going on with RWP as i 
 haven’t been getting those messages as of late.
> On Feb 15, 2015, at 5:50 PM, David Eagle  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I agree. I don’t think they’ll drop support for HUI, but HUI doesn’t 
> mean that you get access to plugin automation through the control 
> surface. Anyway, I’ve posted a query about plugin automation in Reaper to 
> the RWP mailing list, so hopefully I’ll catch you on there.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 19:48, TheOreoMonster  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think avid has too many things that use the HUI protocol to drop 
>> support for it so quickly. That being said you do have a fair point 
>> about reaper and its why i use it myself.
>> 
>>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:21 PM, David Eagle  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the help. I think I’m going to try using my BCF2000 with 
>>> ProTools for track/sends volume and pan, and maybe transport controls. 
>>> If I need to change a plugin, I’ll use Reaper for that. Reaper has many 
>>> more advantages over ProTools when it comes to plugins; for a start, 
>>> they allow VST Plugins. Maybe one day, ProTools will see the error of 
>>> their ways, and reinstate the midi learn function, which apparently was 
>>> a feature in PT8.
>>> 
>>> The trouble with relying on an AlfaTrack or a command 8, is that I can 
>>> easily foresee a time when Avid will discontinue support, possibly in 
>>> the next release. So I’d rather spend £60 on Reaper and get VST 
>>> support, rather than spending £200 or more to recreate what I could 
>>> previously do for free with Sonar.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:37, Scott Chesworth  
 wrote:
 
 Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being
 manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates.
 Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have
 at your disposal.
 
> On 2/15/15, Chris Norman  wrote:
> Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy  wrote:
>> 
>> Are they still supported?
>> 
>> We print the Bible in Braille,
>> http://biblesfortheblind.org
>> Keith Reedy
>> God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
>> Taylor.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units.
>>> 
 On 2/14/15, Chris Norman  wrote:
 As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever 
 used.
 No
 box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's 
 interested in
 buying i

Re: Third-party soft synths in PT?

[Kevin Gibbs]

I actually used a control surface to map out RMX a few years ago.  It took 
vision and a lot of time.  But it could be done.  If you got someone to MIDi 
learn some of the basic functions of RMX to a really good control surface, you 
might be okay.  but you would definitely need a lot of sighted help initially.
> On Feb 16, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
> 
> I would imagine those are incredibly inaccessible at this time.
> 
> Kevin
> On Feb 14, 2015, at 5:41 AM, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
>> But what about spectra sonic products?
>> Like styless and so on on the mac? Any accessibility?
>> 
>> Ramy moustafa saber
>> Musicc instructor at:
>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:40 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> Are you using SONAR using Boot Camp on your Mac? Or do you have a purpose 
>>> built SONAR machine.I assume that you are using 8.53. Is that correct?
>>> 
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Re: Side Chaining

[Kevin Reeves]

No problem. I did this without a control surface, so you should be good to go.

Kevin


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Re: Third-party soft synths in PT?

[Kevin Reeves]

I would imagine those are incredibly inaccessible at this time.

Kevin
On Feb 14, 2015, at 5:41 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

> But what about spectra sonic products?
> Like styless and so on on the mac? Any accessibility?
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> Musicc instructor at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:40 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> Kevin
>> Are you using SONAR using Boot Camp on your Mac? Or do you have a purpose 
>> built SONAR machine.I assume that you are using 8.53. Is that correct?
>> 
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Re: Control surface help

[David Eagle]

r...@bluegrasspals.com, Address Button Double-tap to show more info. Double-tap 
and hold, then drag up or down to move to other address fields.
That's the new address to send reaper questions to. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Feb 2015, at 15:39, Rui Vilarinho  wrote:
> 
> Thanks buddy.
> - Original Message - From: "David Eagle" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 3:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Control surface help
> 
> 
> Apparently, you power on the bcf by locating the fifth button from the top 
> left, holding it down while pressing the on button. This should put it into 
> hui mode. Unfortunately, I don't think the bcf works with plugin automation. 
> I've not used the bcf with protools yet, but a Google search should provide 
> more information.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 16 Feb 2015, at 14:25, Rui Vilarinho  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, whenI connect it to my Mac Pro,  should I press any button to define 
>> my BCF2000 to Mackie HUI?
>> Or, Pro Tools will recognize it automatically ?
>> Yet, anybody recommends any tutorial   using it with Pro tools 11 ?
>> Thanks,
>> Rui Vilarinho
>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Control surface help
>> 
>> 
>> HUI does indeed support plug-in control. Since the release of the original 
>> Mackie HUI, plug-in parameters are mapped automatically, at least with Pro 
>> Tools.
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:30 AM, TheOreoMonster  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If i am not mistaken if the surface had HUI support it should be able to 
>>> control plugins as well?  I need to see what’s going on with RWP as i 
>>> haven’t been getting those messages as of late.
 On Feb 15, 2015, at 5:50 PM, David Eagle  
 wrote:
 
 Yes, I agree. I don’t think they’ll drop support for HUI, but HUI doesn’t 
 mean that you get access to plugin automation through the control surface. 
 Anyway, I’ve posted a query about plugin automation in Reaper to the RWP 
 mailing list, so hopefully I’ll catch you on there.
 
 Thanks.
 
> On 15 Feb 2015, at 19:48, TheOreoMonster  wrote:
> 
> I think avid has too many things that use the HUI protocol to drop 
> support for it so quickly. That being said you do have a fair point about 
> reaper and its why i use it myself.
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:21 PM, David Eagle  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for all the help. I think I’m going to try using my BCF2000 with 
>> ProTools for track/sends volume and pan, and maybe transport controls. 
>> If I need to change a plugin, I’ll use Reaper for that. Reaper has many 
>> more advantages over ProTools when it comes to plugins; for a start, 
>> they allow VST Plugins. Maybe one day, ProTools will see the error of 
>> their ways, and reinstate the midi learn function, which apparently was 
>> a feature in PT8.
>> 
>> The trouble with relying on an AlfaTrack or a command 8, is that I can 
>> easily foresee a time when Avid will discontinue support, possibly in 
>> the next release. So I’d rather spend £60 on Reaper and get VST support, 
>> rather than spending £200 or more to recreate what I could previously do 
>> for free with Sonar.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:37, Scott Chesworth  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being
>>> manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates.
>>> Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have
>>> at your disposal.
>>> 
 On 2/15/15, Chris Norman  wrote:
 Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy  wrote:
> 
> Are they still supported?
> 
> We print the Bible in Braille,
> http://biblesfortheblind.org
> Keith Reedy
> God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
> Taylor.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> +1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units.
>> 
>>> On 2/14/15, Chris Norman  wrote:
>>> As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever 
>>> used.
>>> No
>>> box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's 
>>> interested in
>>> buying it.
>>> 
>>> HTH someone.
>>> 
 On 14/02/2015 12:03, Matt Diemert wrote:
 David,, if you can get your hands on an alpha track, that would 
 meet
 yourneeds. It has the ability to control plugs.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:21 

Re: Pro Tools 11 on Mac Pro instalation procedures

[Rui Vilarinho]

Obrigado amigo.
- Original Message - 
From: "Juan Pablo Culasso" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 11 on Mac Pro instalation procedures


Tudo bem, Rui?

Você tem que se cadastrar no site da Avid. Imagino que quando você comprou o 
protools, veio junto um activation card, forma semelhante a de um cartão de 
crédito. Você deve após criar sua conta Avid, ativar seu protools inserindo 
o número de série desse cartão. Ao mesmo tempo, você já deve ter que criado 
uma conta no site da iole. Pois quando você ativar o Pt na David, ele vai 
perguntar a sua conta iole.
Infelizmente, transferir a licença do servidor Ilok até a chave física, até 
o momento, não é um processo acessível.
Qualquer coisa, me escreva em pvt. Sou usuário protools, mas não gravo, 
apenas pos produção.

Cumprimentos.


On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:47, Rui Vilarinho  wrote:

So, I believe  finally I have all I need to install Pro Tools on my Mac 
Pro .

I have a Thunderboult terabite  external   disc; just arrived .
I have 11Rack, USB  interface .
I have BCF2000 controler .
I have iLok gismo .
But, concerning Pro Tools; , must I go to AVID website and register and 
load it right?
At this stage, what should I expect? a Pt11 download with straight 
automatically instalation ?
Or, a huge file will be downloaded to my Mac and only after I will gonna 
execute the installer ?
Should I also  expect  at the instalation stage, to define the 
Thunderboult external disc   directory for audio samples and so on ?

Yet, at what stage I will gonna need to insert the  license  on  iLok ?

For the record, It's still Mavericks !
Should I update it ?

Well, as you  can see I have doubts concerning next imperative steps to 
instal Pt11  and starting making magic !

Thanks in advance,
Rui Vilarinho
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Re: Control surface help

[Rui Vilarinho]

Thanks buddy.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Eagle" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Control surface help


Apparently, you power on the bcf by locating the fifth button from the top 
left, holding it down while pressing the on button. This should put it into 
hui mode. Unfortunately, I don't think the bcf works with plugin automation. 
I've not used the bcf with protools yet, but a Google search should provide 
more information.


Sent from my iPhone


On 16 Feb 2015, at 14:25, Rui Vilarinho  wrote:

Hello, whenI connect it to my Mac Pro,  should I press any button to 
define my BCF2000 to Mackie HUI?

Or, Pro Tools will recognize it automatically ?
Yet, anybody recommends any tutorial   using it with Pro tools 11 ?
Thanks,
Rui Vilarinho
- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: Control surface help


HUI does indeed support plug-in control. Since the release of the original 
Mackie HUI, plug-in parameters are mapped automatically, at least with Pro 
Tools.


Slau

On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:30 AM, TheOreoMonster  
wrote:


If i am not mistaken if the surface had HUI support it should be able to 
control plugins as well?  I need to see what’s going on with RWP as i 
haven’t been getting those messages as of late.
On Feb 15, 2015, at 5:50 PM, David Eagle  
wrote:


Yes, I agree. I don’t think they’ll drop support for HUI, but HUI doesn’t 
mean that you get access to plugin automation through the control 
surface. Anyway, I’ve posted a query about plugin automation in Reaper 
to the RWP mailing list, so hopefully I’ll catch you on there.


Thanks.

On 15 Feb 2015, at 19:48, TheOreoMonster  
wrote:


I think avid has too many things that use the HUI protocol to drop 
support for it so quickly. That being said you do have a fair point 
about reaper and its why i use it myself.


On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:21 PM, David Eagle  
wrote:


Thanks for all the help. I think I’m going to try using my BCF2000 
with ProTools for track/sends volume and pan, and maybe transport 
controls. If I need to change a plugin, I’ll use Reaper for that. 
Reaper has many more advantages over ProTools when it comes to 
plugins; for a start, they allow VST Plugins. Maybe one day, ProTools 
will see the error of their ways, and reinstate the midi learn 
function, which apparently was a feature in PT8.


The trouble with relying on an AlfaTrack or a command 8, is that I can 
easily foresee a time when Avid will discontinue support, possibly in 
the next release. So I’d rather spend £60 on Reaper and get VST 
support, rather than spending £200 or more to recreate what I could 
previously do for free with Sonar.



On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:37, Scott Chesworth  
wrote:


Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being
manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates.
Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have
at your disposal.


On 2/15/15, Chris Norman  wrote:
Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite.

Sent from my iPhone


On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy  wrote:

Are they still supported?

We print the Bible in Braille,
http://biblesfortheblind.org
Keith Reedy
God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J 
Hudson

Taylor.






On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth 


wrote:

+1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units.


On 2/14/15, Chris Norman  wrote:
As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever 
used.

No
box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's 
interested in

buying it.

HTH someone.


On 14/02/2015 12:03, Matt Diemert wrote:
David,, if you can get your hands on an alpha track, that would 
meet

yourneeds. It has the ability to control plugs.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, David Eagle

wrote:

Alas you can not. Perhaps if the plugin parameters could be 
controlled

by
midi values then plugins might be controllable - I don't know. 
I have

a
Beringer BCF2000 which I think works with ProTools under the 
HUI mode.

I
think this also allows me to control send faders as well as 
track and
busfaders. At least that's a start, but I could buy Reaper for 
£60

and
control anything I wanted with midi.

OK, I'll stop moaning. I've been suckered into using ProTools - 
it's

extremely accessible - and so I'll just have to put up with its
idiosyncratic quirks, which, let's face it, are driven by 
making

money
through forcing you to buy proprietary software. The Avid 
Artist

control
surfaces, which allow you to control plugins, cost over £1000. 
Not

sure
I'm going to earn enough from audio to justify that.





On 14 Feb 2015, at 02:26, Ricky Prevatte 


wrote:

I truly do not know have not tried. Fact is I haven't used it 
that

much
I am getting ready to. Eat Q is not something I'm going to be 
doing

with
the control surface.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154


On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:54

Re: Pro Tools 11 on Mac Pro instalation procedures

[Juan Pablo Culasso]

Tudo bem, Rui?

Você tem que se cadastrar no site da Avid. Imagino que quando você comprou o 
protools, veio junto um activation card, forma semelhante a de um cartão de 
crédito. Você deve após criar sua conta Avid, ativar seu protools inserindo o 
número de série desse cartão. Ao mesmo tempo, você já deve ter que criado uma 
conta no site da iole. Pois quando você ativar o Pt na David, ele vai perguntar 
a sua conta iole.
Infelizmente, transferir a licença do servidor Ilok até a chave física, até o 
momento, não é um processo acessível.
Qualquer coisa, me escreva em pvt. Sou usuário protools, mas não gravo, apenas 
pos produção.
Cumprimentos.

> On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:47, Rui Vilarinho  wrote:
> 
> So, I believe  finally I have all I need to install Pro Tools on my Mac Pro .
> I have a Thunderboult terabite  external   disc; just arrived .
> I have 11Rack, USB  interface .
> I have BCF2000 controler .
> I have iLok gismo .
> But, concerning Pro Tools; , must I go to AVID website and register and load 
> it right?
> At this stage, what should I expect? a Pt11 download with straight 
> automatically instalation ?
> Or, a huge file will be downloaded to my Mac and only after I will gonna 
> execute the installer ?
> Should I also  expect  at the instalation stage, to define the  Thunderboult 
> external disc   directory for audio samples and so on ?
> Yet, at what stage I will gonna need to insert the  license  on  iLok ?
> 
> For the record, It's still Mavericks !
> Should I update it ?
> 
> Well, as you  can see I have doubts concerning next imperative steps to 
> instal Pt11  and starting making magic !
> Thanks in advance,
> Rui Vilarinho 
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Re: Control surface help

[David Eagle]

Apparently, you power on the bcf by locating the fifth button from the top 
left, holding it down while pressing the on button. This should put it into hui 
mode. Unfortunately, I don't think the bcf works with plugin automation. I've 
not used the bcf with protools yet, but a Google search should provide more 
information. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Feb 2015, at 14:25, Rui Vilarinho  wrote:
> 
> Hello, whenI connect it to my Mac Pro,  should I press any button to define 
> my BCF2000 to Mackie HUI?
> Or, Pro Tools will recognize it automatically ?
> Yet, anybody recommends any tutorial   using it with Pro tools 11 ?
> Thanks,
> Rui Vilarinho
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Control surface help
> 
> 
> HUI does indeed support plug-in control. Since the release of the original 
> Mackie HUI, plug-in parameters are mapped automatically, at least with Pro 
> Tools.
> 
> Slau
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:30 AM, TheOreoMonster  wrote:
>> 
>> If i am not mistaken if the surface had HUI support it should be able to 
>> control plugins as well?  I need to see what’s going on with RWP as i 
>> haven’t been getting those messages as of late.
>>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 5:50 PM, David Eagle  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I agree. I don’t think they’ll drop support for HUI, but HUI doesn’t 
>>> mean that you get access to plugin automation through the control surface. 
>>> Anyway, I’ve posted a query about plugin automation in Reaper to the RWP 
>>> mailing list, so hopefully I’ll catch you on there.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
 On 15 Feb 2015, at 19:48, TheOreoMonster  wrote:
 
 I think avid has too many things that use the HUI protocol to drop support 
 for it so quickly. That being said you do have a fair point about reaper 
 and its why i use it myself.
 
> On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:21 PM, David Eagle  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all the help. I think I’m going to try using my BCF2000 with 
> ProTools for track/sends volume and pan, and maybe transport controls. If 
> I need to change a plugin, I’ll use Reaper for that. Reaper has many more 
> advantages over ProTools when it comes to plugins; for a start, they 
> allow VST Plugins. Maybe one day, ProTools will see the error of their 
> ways, and reinstate the midi learn function, which apparently was a 
> feature in PT8.
> 
> The trouble with relying on an AlfaTrack or a command 8, is that I can 
> easily foresee a time when Avid will discontinue support, possibly in the 
> next release. So I’d rather spend £60 on Reaper and get VST support, 
> rather than spending £200 or more to recreate what I could previously do 
> for free with Sonar.
> 
> 
>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:37, Scott Chesworth  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being
>> manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates.
>> Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have
>> at your disposal.
>> 
>>> On 2/15/15, Chris Norman  wrote:
>>> Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy  wrote:
 
 Are they still supported?
 
 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
 God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
 Taylor.
 
 
 
 
 
 
> On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> +1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units.
> 
>> On 2/14/15, Chris Norman  wrote:
>> As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever used.
>> No
>> box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's interested 
>> in
>> buying it.
>> 
>> HTH someone.
>> 
>>> On 14/02/2015 12:03, Matt Diemert wrote:
>>> David,, if you can get your hands on an alpha track, that would meet
>>> yourneeds. It has the ability to control plugs.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, David Eagle
 
 wrote:
 
 Alas you can not. Perhaps if the plugin parameters could be 
 controlled
 by
 midi values then plugins might be controllable - I don't know. I 
 have
 a
 Beringer BCF2000 which I think works with ProTools under the HUI 
 mode.
 I
 think this also allows me to control send faders as well as track 
 and
 busfaders. At least that's a start, but I could buy Reaper for £60

Pro Tools 11 on Mac Pro instalation procedures

[Rui Vilarinho]

So, I believe  finally I have all I need to install Pro Tools on my Mac Pro 
.

I have a Thunderboult terabite  external   disc; just arrived .
I have 11Rack, USB  interface .
I have BCF2000 controler .
I have iLok gismo .
But, concerning Pro Tools; , must I go to AVID website and register and load 
it right?
At this stage, what should I expect? a Pt11 download with straight 
automatically instalation ?
Or, a huge file will be downloaded to my Mac and only after I will gonna 
execute the installer ?
Should I also  expect  at the instalation stage, to define the  Thunderboult 
external disc   directory for audio samples and so on ?

Yet, at what stage I will gonna need to insert the  license  on  iLok ?

For the record, It's still Mavericks !
Should I update it ?

Well, as you  can see I have doubts concerning next imperative steps to 
instal Pt11  and starting making magic !

Thanks in advance,
Rui Vilarinho 


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Re: Control surface help

[Rui Vilarinho]

Hello, whenI connect it to my Mac Pro,  should I press any button to define 
my BCF2000 to Mackie HUI?

Or, Pro Tools will recognize it automatically ?
Yet, anybody recommends any tutorial   using it with Pro tools 11 ?
Thanks,
Rui Vilarinho
- Original Message - 
From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: Control surface help


HUI does indeed support plug-in control. Since the release of the original 
Mackie HUI, plug-in parameters are mapped automatically, at least with Pro 
Tools.


Slau

On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:30 AM, TheOreoMonster  
wrote:


If i am not mistaken if the surface had HUI support it should be able to 
control plugins as well?  I need to see what’s going on with RWP as i 
haven’t been getting those messages as of late.
On Feb 15, 2015, at 5:50 PM, David Eagle  
wrote:


Yes, I agree. I don’t think they’ll drop support for HUI, but HUI doesn’t 
mean that you get access to plugin automation through the control 
surface. Anyway, I’ve posted a query about plugin automation in Reaper to 
the RWP mailing list, so hopefully I’ll catch you on there.


Thanks.

On 15 Feb 2015, at 19:48, TheOreoMonster  
wrote:


I think avid has too many things that use the HUI protocol to drop 
support for it so quickly. That being said you do have a fair point 
about reaper and its why i use it myself.


On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:21 PM, David Eagle  
wrote:


Thanks for all the help. I think I’m going to try using my BCF2000 with 
ProTools for track/sends volume and pan, and maybe transport controls. 
If I need to change a plugin, I’ll use Reaper for that. Reaper has many 
more advantages over ProTools when it comes to plugins; for a start, 
they allow VST Plugins. Maybe one day, ProTools will see the error of 
their ways, and reinstate the midi learn function, which apparently was 
a feature in PT8.


The trouble with relying on an AlfaTrack or a command 8, is that I can 
easily foresee a time when Avid will discontinue support, possibly in 
the next release. So I’d rather spend £60 on Reaper and get VST 
support, rather than spending £200 or more to recreate what I could 
previously do for free with Sonar.



On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:37, Scott Chesworth  
wrote:


Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being
manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates.
Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have
at your disposal.

On 2/15/15, Chris Norman  wrote:

Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite.

Sent from my iPhone


On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy  wrote:

Are they still supported?

We print the Bible in Braille,
http://biblesfortheblind.org
Keith Reedy
God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
Taylor.






On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth 


wrote:

+1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units.


On 2/14/15, Chris Norman  wrote:
As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever 
used.

No
box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's 
interested in

buying it.

HTH someone.


On 14/02/2015 12:03, Matt Diemert wrote:
David,, if you can get your hands on an alpha track, that would 
meet

yourneeds. It has the ability to control plugs.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, David Eagle

wrote:

Alas you can not. Perhaps if the plugin parameters could be 
controlled

by
midi values then plugins might be controllable - I don't know. I 
have

a
Beringer BCF2000 which I think works with ProTools under the HUI 
mode.

I
think this also allows me to control send faders as well as 
track and
busfaders. At least that's a start, but I could buy Reaper for 
£60

and
control anything I wanted with midi.

OK, I'll stop moaning. I've been suckered into using ProTools - 
it's

extremely accessible - and so I'll just have to put up with its
idiosyncratic quirks, which, let's face it, are driven by making
money
through forcing you to buy proprietary software. The Avid Artist
control
surfaces, which allow you to control plugins, cost over £1000. 
Not

sure
I'm going to earn enough from audio to justify that.





On 14 Feb 2015, at 02:26, Ricky Prevatte 


wrote:

I truly do not know have not tried. Fact is I haven't used it 
that

much
I am getting ready to. Eat Q is not something I'm going to be 
doing

with
the control surface.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154


On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:54 PM, David Eagle

wrote:

Thanks for that Ricky. I've had a look on the Internet. I 
assume

that
you can't control plugin parameters with this? It seems as if 
this

is
the case for surfaces that run in HUI mode. Does the Faderport
allow
you to change EQ settings for instance, or is it just track 
volume

and
pan?

Thanks.

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Re: Control surface help

[Slau Halatyn]

HUI does indeed support plug-in control. Since the release of the original 
Mackie HUI, plug-in parameters are mapped automatically, at least with Pro 
Tools.

Slau

On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:30 AM, TheOreoMonster  wrote:

> If i am not mistaken if the surface had HUI support it should be able to 
> control plugins as well?  I need to see what’s going on with RWP as i haven’t 
> been getting those messages as of late. 
>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 5:50 PM, David Eagle  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I agree. I don’t think they’ll drop support for HUI, but HUI doesn’t 
>> mean that you get access to plugin automation through the control surface. 
>> Anyway, I’ve posted a query about plugin automation in Reaper to the RWP 
>> mailing list, so hopefully I’ll catch you on there. 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 19:48, TheOreoMonster  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think avid has too many things that use the HUI protocol to drop support 
>>> for it so quickly. That being said you do have a fair point about reaper 
>>> and its why i use it myself. 
>>> 
 On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:21 PM, David Eagle  
 wrote:
 
 Thanks for all the help. I think I’m going to try using my BCF2000 with 
 ProTools for track/sends volume and pan, and maybe transport controls. If 
 I need to change a plugin, I’ll use Reaper for that. Reaper has many more 
 advantages over ProTools when it comes to plugins; for a start, they allow 
 VST Plugins. Maybe one day, ProTools will see the error of their ways, and 
 reinstate the midi learn function, which apparently was a feature in PT8.
 
 The trouble with relying on an AlfaTrack or a command 8, is that I can 
 easily foresee a time when Avid will discontinue support, possibly in the 
 next release. So I’d rather spend £60 on Reaper and get VST support, 
 rather than spending £200 or more to recreate what I could previously do 
 for free with Sonar.
 
 
> On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:37, Scott Chesworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being
> manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates.
> Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have
> at your disposal.
> 
> On 2/15/15, Chris Norman  wrote:
>> Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are they still supported?
>>> 
>>> We print the Bible in Braille,
>>> http://biblesfortheblind.org
>>> Keith Reedy
>>> God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
>>> Taylor.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth 
 wrote:
 
 +1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units.
 
> On 2/14/15, Chris Norman  wrote:
> As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever used.
> No
> box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's interested 
> in
> buying it.
> 
> HTH someone.
> 
>> On 14/02/2015 12:03, Matt Diemert wrote:
>> David,, if you can get your hands on an alpha track, that would meet
>> yourneeds. It has the ability to control plugs.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, David Eagle
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alas you can not. Perhaps if the plugin parameters could be 
>>> controlled
>>> by
>>> midi values then plugins might be controllable - I don't know. I 
>>> have
>>> a
>>> Beringer BCF2000 which I think works with ProTools under the HUI 
>>> mode.
>>> I
>>> think this also allows me to control send faders as well as track 
>>> and
>>> busfaders. At least that's a start, but I could buy Reaper for £60
>>> and
>>> control anything I wanted with midi.
>>> 
>>> OK, I'll stop moaning. I've been suckered into using ProTools - it's
>>> extremely accessible - and so I'll just have to put up with its
>>> idiosyncratic quirks, which, let's face it, are driven by making
>>> money
>>> through forcing you to buy proprietary software. The Avid Artist
>>> control
>>> surfaces, which allow you to control plugins, cost over £1000. Not
>>> sure
>>> I'm going to earn enough from audio to justify that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 14 Feb 2015, at 02:26, Ricky Prevatte 
 wrote:
 
 I truly do not know have not tried. Fact is I haven't used it that
 much
 I am getting ready to. Eat Q is not something I'm going to be doing
 with
>