Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] Avid S3 or C24 control surface?

[Katie Zodrow]

Hi, what does fader flip mode do on a control surface?
Thanks.
Katie
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Katie,
> 
> When speaking of Pro Tools specifically, you won't get better access than 
> with the C|24 and possibly  the S3. While the idea of the Macke Control is 
> appealing, especially at its price point, I have yet to hear of a blind user 
> who has truly found it to be a viable surface for Pro Tools. While it'll 
> certainly work for things like transport, scrubbing (although I don't like 
> the way it scrubs), mute, solo, etc., my understanding is that it lacks in 
> the ability to reliably switch into fader flip mode which is one of the most 
> important aspects of control surface implementation for blind users of Pro 
> Tools. If someone's experience on the list is significantly different, I'd 
> love to hear about it.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Slau. I just looked at the Mackie Universal Pro control surface on the 
>> B&H website. I just read about this one when I was browsing some old posts 
>> on the PT list about control surfaces. It sounds like this control surface 
>> might be better than the S3 since its got a jog wheel for editing audio in 
>> scrub or shuttle modes. Can you use this for mixing in stereo or surround 
>> sound?
>> Not sure if this control surface would be better than the C24. Let me know 
>> what you think.
>> Thanks.
>> Katie
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cool. Thanks Slau. I didn’t know the AES show was this weekend. Let me know 
>>> what you find out about the S3 and how you like using it.
>>> I know Rick hasn’t used this board either. If its not as accessible, I 
>>> might as well go with the C24. I’ll be doing a lot of editing voiceover 
>>> tracks and mixing projects in stereo and surround sound.
>>> Let me know what you think about the S3 control surface after you attend 
>>> AES.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Katie
 On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
 
 Hi Katie,
 
 I know of no blind users with an s3 yet. To be certain, the C|24 is fully 
 supported and is very accessible but undoubtedly much further along in its 
 life cycle. It's clearly still supported and will probably be supported 
 for a few more years but I'd say that 5 years is perhaps pushing it a bit. 
 I'm not sure. In addition, the s3 is half the price but, as you pointed 
 out, doesn't necessarily have all of the same features that come in so 
 handy with the C|24. I'll be at AES this week and will have a chance to 
 take a closer look at the S3 and, since I have a C|24, might be able to 
 compare/contrast the two. I'll see if I can paint a fuller picture by next 
 week.
 
 Best,
 
 Slau
 
 On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
 
> Hi, everyone. Sorry this email is under Ashley Cox’s name, I’m not sure 
> why this happened when I put in PT Accessibility in the to field. I’ll 
> try to delete that next time I email the list. 
> 
> I haven’t emailed this list in a long time, but I have a question about 
> control surfaces. I’m currently working at Rick Boggs' studio Audio Eyes 
> part-time as an audio engineer. We do postproduction work producing video 
> description. I’ll be going full time by next year and will be getting my 
> own digital audio workstation so I can work remotely from home or at the 
> studio. I reopened my case with DOR in California, and they will be 
> purchasing this system for me. I was planning to get the C24 control 
> surface since that’s what we have at the studio, and I’m really familiar 
> with this board. But I was browsing on Google a couple weeks ago and last 
> night too. I found information about another control surface made by 
> Avid. I think it was introduced earlier this year or last year. Its 
> called the Avid S3 control surface. Have any of you guys used this 
> before, and do you know if this is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve never 
> seen the S3 control surface. I’ve used the C24 at the studio many times, 
> so I’m very familiar with using that board.
> 
> I know Rick told me if I get the C24, I would have to purchase a separate 
> desk for the console. I know the S3 is a much smaller control surface 
> compared to the C24, but I wasn’t sure which one would be the best option 
> for me to use with ProTools. Does the S3 come with its own desk, or do 
> you need to purchase it separately?
> 
> I’ve heard the S3 is EUCON enabled which is cool, so you can use this 
> with other applications besides ProTools like Logic or Digital Performer. 
> This board has 16 channels you can work with instead of 24. I’m not sure 
> though if the S3 has a lot of analog controls like the C24 or not. I’ve 
> read that the S3 doesn’t have a lot of a

Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] Avid S3 or C24 control surface?

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Katie,

When speaking of Pro Tools specifically, you won't get better access than with 
the C|24 and possibly  the S3. While the idea of the Macke Control is 
appealing, especially at its price point, I have yet to hear of a blind user 
who has truly found it to be a viable surface for Pro Tools. While it'll 
certainly work for things like transport, scrubbing (although I don't like the 
way it scrubs), mute, solo, etc., my understanding is that it lacks in the 
ability to reliably switch into fader flip mode which is one of the most 
important aspects of control surface implementation for blind users of Pro 
Tools. If someone's experience on the list is significantly different, I'd love 
to hear about it.

Best,

Slau

On Oct 27, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:

> Hi, Slau. I just looked at the Mackie Universal Pro control surface on the 
> B&H website. I just read about this one when I was browsing some old posts on 
> the PT list about control surfaces. It sounds like this control surface might 
> be better than the S3 since its got a jog wheel for editing audio in scrub or 
> shuttle modes. Can you use this for mixing in stereo or surround sound?
> Not sure if this control surface would be better than the C24. Let me know 
> what you think.
> Thanks.
> Katie
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>> 
>> Cool. Thanks Slau. I didn’t know the AES show was this weekend. Let me know 
>> what you find out about the S3 and how you like using it.
>> I know Rick hasn’t used this board either. If its not as accessible, I might 
>> as well go with the C24. I’ll be doing a lot of editing voiceover tracks and 
>> mixing projects in stereo and surround sound.
>> Let me know what you think about the S3 control surface after you attend AES.
>> Thanks.
>> Katie
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Katie,
>>> 
>>> I know of no blind users with an s3 yet. To be certain, the C|24 is fully 
>>> supported and is very accessible but undoubtedly much further along in its 
>>> life cycle. It's clearly still supported and will probably be supported for 
>>> a few more years but I'd say that 5 years is perhaps pushing it a bit. I'm 
>>> not sure. In addition, the s3 is half the price but, as you pointed out, 
>>> doesn't necessarily have all of the same features that come in so handy 
>>> with the C|24. I'll be at AES this week and will have a chance to take a 
>>> closer look at the S3 and, since I have a C|24, might be able to 
>>> compare/contrast the two. I'll see if I can paint a fuller picture by next 
>>> week.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, everyone. Sorry this email is under Ashley Cox’s name, I’m not sure 
 why this happened when I put in PT Accessibility in the to field. I’ll try 
 to delete that next time I email the list. 
 
 I haven’t emailed this list in a long time, but I have a question about 
 control surfaces. I’m currently working at Rick Boggs' studio Audio Eyes 
 part-time as an audio engineer. We do postproduction work producing video 
 description. I’ll be going full time by next year and will be getting my 
 own digital audio workstation so I can work remotely from home or at the 
 studio. I reopened my case with DOR in California, and they will be 
 purchasing this system for me. I was planning to get the C24 control 
 surface since that’s what we have at the studio, and I’m really familiar 
 with this board. But I was browsing on Google a couple weeks ago and last 
 night too. I found information about another control surface made by Avid. 
 I think it was introduced earlier this year or last year. Its called the 
 Avid S3 control surface. Have any of you guys used this before, and do you 
 know if this is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve never seen the S3 control 
 surface. I’ve used the C24 at the studio many times, so I’m very familiar 
 with using that board.
 
 I know Rick told me if I get the C24, I would have to purchase a separate 
 desk for the console. I know the S3 is a much smaller control surface 
 compared to the C24, but I wasn’t sure which one would be the best option 
 for me to use with ProTools. Does the S3 come with its own desk, or do you 
 need to purchase it separately?
 
 I’ve heard the S3 is EUCON enabled which is cool, so you can use this with 
 other applications besides ProTools like Logic or Digital Performer. This 
 board has 16 channels you can work with instead of 24. I’m not sure though 
 if the S3 has a lot of analog controls like the C24 or not. I’ve read that 
 the S3 doesn’t have a lot of audio editing functions though, so I think 
 I’d have to get the Artist Transport to use for editing and recording. I 
 like that the C24 includes the transport controls as well as the jog 
 wheel, and the scrub and shuttle modes a

Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] Avid S3 or C24 control surface?

[Katie Zodrow]

Hi, Slau. I just looked at the Mackie Universal Pro control surface on the B&H 
website. I just read about this one when I was browsing some old posts on the 
PT list about control surfaces. It sounds like this control surface might be 
better than the S3 since its got a jog wheel for editing audio in scrub or 
shuttle modes. Can you use this for mixing in stereo or surround sound?
Not sure if this control surface would be better than the C24. Let me know what 
you think.
Thanks.
Katie
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
> Cool. Thanks Slau. I didn’t know the AES show was this weekend. Let me know 
> what you find out about the S3 and how you like using it.
> I know Rick hasn’t used this board either. If its not as accessible, I might 
> as well go with the C24. I’ll be doing a lot of editing voiceover tracks and 
> mixing projects in stereo and surround sound.
> Let me know what you think about the S3 control surface after you attend AES.
> Thanks.
> Katie
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Katie,
>> 
>> I know of no blind users with an s3 yet. To be certain, the C|24 is fully 
>> supported and is very accessible but undoubtedly much further along in its 
>> life cycle. It's clearly still supported and will probably be supported for 
>> a few more years but I'd say that 5 years is perhaps pushing it a bit. I'm 
>> not sure. In addition, the s3 is half the price but, as you pointed out, 
>> doesn't necessarily have all of the same features that come in so handy with 
>> the C|24. I'll be at AES this week and will have a chance to take a closer 
>> look at the S3 and, since I have a C|24, might be able to compare/contrast 
>> the two. I'll see if I can paint a fuller picture by next week.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, everyone. Sorry this email is under Ashley Cox’s name, I’m not sure why 
>>> this happened when I put in PT Accessibility in the to field. I’ll try to 
>>> delete that next time I email the list. 
>>> 
>>> I haven’t emailed this list in a long time, but I have a question about 
>>> control surfaces. I’m currently working at Rick Boggs' studio Audio Eyes 
>>> part-time as an audio engineer. We do postproduction work producing video 
>>> description. I’ll be going full time by next year and will be getting my 
>>> own digital audio workstation so I can work remotely from home or at the 
>>> studio. I reopened my case with DOR in California, and they will be 
>>> purchasing this system for me. I was planning to get the C24 control 
>>> surface since that’s what we have at the studio, and I’m really familiar 
>>> with this board. But I was browsing on Google a couple weeks ago and last 
>>> night too. I found information about another control surface made by Avid. 
>>> I think it was introduced earlier this year or last year. Its called the 
>>> Avid S3 control surface. Have any of you guys used this before, and do you 
>>> know if this is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve never seen the S3 control 
>>> surface. I’ve used the C24 at the studio many times, so I’m very familiar 
>>> with using that board.
>>> 
>>> I know Rick told me if I get the C24, I would have to purchase a separate 
>>> desk for the console. I know the S3 is a much smaller control surface 
>>> compared to the C24, but I wasn’t sure which one would be the best option 
>>> for me to use with ProTools. Does the S3 come with its own desk, or do you 
>>> need to purchase it separately?
>>> 
>>> I’ve heard the S3 is EUCON enabled which is cool, so you can use this with 
>>> other applications besides ProTools like Logic or Digital Performer. This 
>>> board has 16 channels you can work with instead of 24. I’m not sure though 
>>> if the S3 has a lot of analog controls like the C24 or not. I’ve read that 
>>> the S3 doesn’t have a lot of audio editing functions though, so I think I’d 
>>> have to get the Artist Transport to use for editing and recording. I like 
>>> that the C24 includes the transport controls as well as the jog wheel, and 
>>> the scrub and shuttle modes all in one unit. Is the Artist Transport a good 
>>> device to use for editing?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Let me know what you guys think. I’d like to get a control surface I can 
>>> use and that’s still supported by Avid for at least five years or longer. 
>>> Should I go with the C24, or the Avid S3?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Katie
>>> 
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Re: [Bulk] Avid S3 or C24 control surface?

[Katie Zodrow]

Cool. Thanks Slau. I didn’t know the AES show was this weekend. Let me know 
what you find out about the S3 and how you like using it.
I know Rick hasn’t used this board either. If its not as accessible, I might as 
well go with the C24. I’ll be doing a lot of editing voiceover tracks and 
mixing projects in stereo and surround sound.
Let me know what you think about the S3 control surface after you attend AES.
Thanks.
Katie
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Katie,
> 
> I know of no blind users with an s3 yet. To be certain, the C|24 is fully 
> supported and is very accessible but undoubtedly much further along in its 
> life cycle. It's clearly still supported and will probably be supported for a 
> few more years but I'd say that 5 years is perhaps pushing it a bit. I'm not 
> sure. In addition, the s3 is half the price but, as you pointed out, doesn't 
> necessarily have all of the same features that come in so handy with the 
> C|24. I'll be at AES this week and will have a chance to take a closer look 
> at the S3 and, since I have a C|24, might be able to compare/contrast the 
> two. I'll see if I can paint a fuller picture by next week.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, everyone. Sorry this email is under Ashley Cox’s name, I’m not sure why 
>> this happened when I put in PT Accessibility in the to field. I’ll try to 
>> delete that next time I email the list. 
>> 
>> I haven’t emailed this list in a long time, but I have a question about 
>> control surfaces. I’m currently working at Rick Boggs' studio Audio Eyes 
>> part-time as an audio engineer. We do postproduction work producing video 
>> description. I’ll be going full time by next year and will be getting my own 
>> digital audio workstation so I can work remotely from home or at the studio. 
>> I reopened my case with DOR in California, and they will be purchasing this 
>> system for me. I was planning to get the C24 control surface since that’s 
>> what we have at the studio, and I’m really familiar with this board. But I 
>> was browsing on Google a couple weeks ago and last night too. I found 
>> information about another control surface made by Avid. I think it was 
>> introduced earlier this year or last year. Its called the Avid S3 control 
>> surface. Have any of you guys used this before, and do you know if this is 
>> accessible with Voiceover? I’ve never seen the S3 control surface. I’ve used 
>> the C24 at the studio many times, so I’m very familiar with using that board.
>> 
>> I know Rick told me if I get the C24, I would have to purchase a separate 
>> desk for the console. I know the S3 is a much smaller control surface 
>> compared to the C24, but I wasn’t sure which one would be the best option 
>> for me to use with ProTools. Does the S3 come with its own desk, or do you 
>> need to purchase it separately?
>> 
>> I’ve heard the S3 is EUCON enabled which is cool, so you can use this with 
>> other applications besides ProTools like Logic or Digital Performer. This 
>> board has 16 channels you can work with instead of 24. I’m not sure though 
>> if the S3 has a lot of analog controls like the C24 or not. I’ve read that 
>> the S3 doesn’t have a lot of audio editing functions though, so I think I’d 
>> have to get the Artist Transport to use for editing and recording. I like 
>> that the C24 includes the transport controls as well as the jog wheel, and 
>> the scrub and shuttle modes all in one unit. Is the Artist Transport a good 
>> device to use for editing?
>> 
>> 
>> Let me know what you guys think. I’d like to get a control surface I can use 
>> and that’s still supported by Avid for at least five years or longer. Should 
>> I go with the C24, or the Avid S3?
>> Thanks.
>> Katie
>> 
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Re: Avid S3 or C24 control surface?

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Katie,

I know of no blind users with an s3 yet. To be certain, the C|24 is fully 
supported and is very accessible but undoubtedly much further along in its life 
cycle. It's clearly still supported and will probably be supported for a few 
more years but I'd say that 5 years is perhaps pushing it a bit. I'm not sure. 
In addition, the s3 is half the price but, as you pointed out, doesn't 
necessarily have all of the same features that come in so handy with the C|24. 
I'll be at AES this week and will have a chance to take a closer look at the S3 
and, since I have a C|24, might be able to compare/contrast the two. I'll see 
if I can paint a fuller picture by next week.

Best,

Slau

On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:

> Hi, everyone. Sorry this email is under Ashley Cox’s name, I’m not sure why 
> this happened when I put in PT Accessibility in the to field. I’ll try to 
> delete that next time I email the list. 
> 
> I haven’t emailed this list in a long time, but I have a question about 
> control surfaces. I’m currently working at Rick Boggs' studio Audio Eyes 
> part-time as an audio engineer. We do postproduction work producing video 
> description. I’ll be going full time by next year and will be getting my own 
> digital audio workstation so I can work remotely from home or at the studio. 
> I reopened my case with DOR in California, and they will be purchasing this 
> system for me. I was planning to get the C24 control surface since that’s 
> what we have at the studio, and I’m really familiar with this board. But I 
> was browsing on Google a couple weeks ago and last night too. I found 
> information about another control surface made by Avid. I think it was 
> introduced earlier this year or last year. Its called the Avid S3 control 
> surface. Have any of you guys used this before, and do you know if this is 
> accessible with Voiceover? I’ve never seen the S3 control surface. I’ve used 
> the C24 at the studio many times, so I’m very familiar with using that board.
> 
> I know Rick told me if I get the C24, I would have to purchase a separate 
> desk for the console. I know the S3 is a much smaller control surface 
> compared to the C24, but I wasn’t sure which one would be the best option for 
> me to use with ProTools. Does the S3 come with its own desk, or do you need 
> to purchase it separately?
> 
> I’ve heard the S3 is EUCON enabled which is cool, so you can use this with 
> other applications besides ProTools like Logic or Digital Performer. This 
> board has 16 channels you can work with instead of 24. I’m not sure though if 
> the S3 has a lot of analog controls like the C24 or not. I’ve read that the 
> S3 doesn’t have a lot of audio editing functions though, so I think I’d have 
> to get the Artist Transport to use for editing and recording. I like that the 
> C24 includes the transport controls as well as the jog wheel, and the scrub 
> and shuttle modes all in one unit. Is the Artist Transport a good device to 
> use for editing?
> 
> 
> Let me know what you guys think. I’d like to get a control surface I can use 
> and that’s still supported by Avid for at least five years or longer. Should 
> I go with the C24, or the Avid S3?
> Thanks.
> Katie
> 
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Avid S3 or C24 control surface?

[Katie Zodrow]

Hi, everyone. Sorry this email is under Ashley Cox’s name, I’m not sure why 
this happened when I put in PT Accessibility in the to field. I’ll try to 
delete that next time I email the list. 

I haven’t emailed this list in a long time, but I have a question about control 
surfaces. I’m currently working at Rick Boggs' studio Audio Eyes part-time as 
an audio engineer. We do postproduction work producing video description. I’ll 
be going full time by next year and will be getting my own digital audio 
workstation so I can work remotely from home or at the studio. I reopened my 
case with DOR in California, and they will be purchasing this system for me. I 
was planning to get the C24 control surface since that’s what we have at the 
studio, and I’m really familiar with this board. But I was browsing on Google a 
couple weeks ago and last night too. I found information about another control 
surface made by Avid. I think it was introduced earlier this year or last year. 
Its called the Avid S3 control surface. Have any of you guys used this before, 
and do you know if this is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve never seen the S3 
control surface. I’ve used the C24 at the studio many times, so I’m very 
familiar with using that board.

I know Rick told me if I get the C24, I would have to purchase a separate desk 
for the console. I know the S3 is a much smaller control surface compared to 
the C24, but I wasn’t sure which one would be the best option for me to use 
with ProTools. Does the S3 come with its own desk, or do you need to purchase 
it separately?

I’ve heard the S3 is EUCON enabled which is cool, so you can use this with 
other applications besides ProTools like Logic or Digital Performer. This board 
has 16 channels you can work with instead of 24. I’m not sure though if the S3 
has a lot of analog controls like the C24 or not. I’ve read that the S3 doesn’t 
have a lot of audio editing functions though, so I think I’d have to get the 
Artist Transport to use for editing and recording. I like that the C24 includes 
the transport controls as well as the jog wheel, and the scrub and shuttle 
modes all in one unit. Is the Artist Transport a good device to use for editing?


Let me know what you guys think. I’d like to get a control surface I can use 
and that’s still supported by Avid for at least five years or longer. Should I 
go with the C24, or the Avid S3?
Thanks.
Katie

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Re: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the imminent release

[Chris Smart]

agreed.
I'm sure Anthony over at Slate and Eiosis will be glad he doesn't have to
fiddle wiht licenses remotely for me now. :)
At 05:15 PM 10/26/2015, you wrote:
Right on, for someone who lives
on his own like  I do, looking forward to this.
On 10/26/15, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> FYI, Pace just informed us that the upcoming release of the iLok
License
> Manager, version 2.6, will have support for screen readers on both
Mac and
> windows. The migration from QT4 to QT5 was more work than they
expected
> (which has nothing to do with accessibility, per se) and they did
run into a
> few bugs to work around in the accessibility implementation built
into QT5.
> This week, they're adding a number of keyboard shortcuts. As a
result of the
> delays, the release of version 2.6 is going to be more like mid
November
> which is only a little later than originally projected. All in all,
good
> news.
>
> One thing to remember is that this first release is likely to have
some
> issues and it won't be perfect out of the gate but, where there
are
> problems, they'll get resolved in subsequent releases. Looking
forward to
> having access once again…
>
> best,
>
> Slau
>
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Re: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the imminent release

[Chris Smart]

That's great news Slau!
At 05:07 PM 10/26/2015, you wrote:
FYI, Pace just informed us that
the upcoming release of the iLok License Manager, version 2.6, will have
support for screen readers on both Mac and windows. The migration from
QT4 to QT5 was more work than they expected (which has nothing to do with
accessibility, per se) and they did run into a few bugs to work around in
the accessibility implementation built into QT5. This week, they're
adding a number of keyboard shortcuts. As a result of the delays, the
release of version 2.6 is going to be more like mid November which is
only a little later than originally projected. All in all, good
news.
One thing to remember is that this first release is likely to have some
issues and it won't be perfect out of the gate but, where there are
problems, they'll get resolved in subsequent releases. Looking forward to
having access once again…
best,
Slau
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Re: I understand this is highly discouraged at this time, but, El Capitan?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Kevin, I understand about V11, but I was talking specifically about V12, not 11.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Reeves 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 10:57 AM
  Subject: Re: I understand this is highly discouraged at this time, but, El 
Capitan?


  Pro Tools 11 is completely broken on my El Capitan Machine.


  I posted a few weeks ago my findings.


  Kevin






On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


I totally totally get that it is not suggested that we update to El Capitan 
at this time on our PT systems.  I know that Avid hasn't officially certified 
ProTools for 10.11 yet, let alone 10.11.1.  I think it was Kevin Reeves who 
wrote in earlier and said he'd tried it, and it was a baunified disaster, if 
ever there be one!  Thank God he had a backup.  I kind a remember him, however, 
saying that he did this with version 11, not 12.  Certainly not the latest 
build of 12, which is, 12.2? isn't it?  Anyway, I'm just wonderring if anyone 
actually has tried it with V12, despite the warnings.  If so, was your 
experience also really disgusting?  I'm not saying I'm necessarily gonna try 
it, I might, but probably not.  And again, if I do! try it, I'll do so during 
non workday hours, and believe you me: yes.  I definitely do have a Super Duper 
image of my drive, so if something does indeed blow up in my face, it's not the 
end of the world by any means.  I can easily enough revert back with hardly any 
effort.

I'm just wonderring before I attempt, if anyone's tried it, and their over 
all experience.  Again, I'm speaking specifically of version 12.X of ProTools, 
and I'm speaking specifically of the official builds of El Capitan, not the 
public nor private beta seeds.

Chris.


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Re: I understand this is highly discouraged at this time, but, El Capitan?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I don't feel the need, and that is why I asked.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Nickus de Vos 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 12:38 PM
  Subject: Re: I understand this is highly discouraged at this time, but, El 
Capitan?


  Personally I don't have a second machine to mess around with and can't afford 
any down time, so I won't be trying untill at least Avid gives the green light. 


  You know the risks, you know it could possibly go very wrong, if you feel the 
need then go for it. 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On 27 Oct 2015, at 16:57, Kevin Reeves  wrote:


Pro Tools 11 is completely broken on my El Capitan Machine.


I posted a few weeks ago my findings.


Kevin






  On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  I totally totally get that it is not suggested that we update to El 
Capitan at this time on our PT systems.  I know that Avid hasn't officially 
certified ProTools for 10.11 yet, let alone 10.11.1.  I think it was Kevin 
Reeves who wrote in earlier and said he'd tried it, and it was a baunified 
disaster, if ever there be one!  Thank God he had a backup.  I kind a remember 
him, however, saying that he did this with version 11, not 12.  Certainly not 
the latest build of 12, which is, 12.2? isn't it?  Anyway, I'm just wonderring 
if anyone actually has tried it with V12, despite the warnings.  If so, was 
your experience also really disgusting?  I'm not saying I'm necessarily gonna 
try it, I might, but probably not.  And again, if I do! try it, I'll do so 
during non workday hours, and believe you me: yes.  I definitely do have a 
Super Duper image of my drive, so if something does indeed blow up in my face, 
it's not the end of the world by any means.  I can easily enough revert back 
with hardly any effort.

  I'm just wonderring before I attempt, if anyone's tried it, and their 
over all experience.  Again, I'm speaking specifically of version 12.X of 
ProTools, and I'm speaking specifically of the official builds of El Capitan, 
not the public nor private beta seeds.

  Chris.


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Re: I understand this is highly discouraged at this time, but, El Capitan?

[Nickus de Vos]

Personally I don't have a second machine to mess around with and can't afford 
any down time, so I won't be trying untill at least Avid gives the green light. 

You know the risks, you know it could possibly go very wrong, if you feel the 
need then go for it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Oct 2015, at 16:57, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
> 
> Pro Tools 11 is completely broken on my El Capitan Machine.
> 
> I posted a few weeks ago my findings.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I totally totally get that it is not suggested that we update to El Capitan 
>> at this time on our PT systems.  I know that Avid hasn't officially 
>> certified ProTools for 10.11 yet, let alone 10.11.1.  I think it was Kevin 
>> Reeves who wrote in earlier and said he'd tried it, and it was a baunified 
>> disaster, if ever there be one!  Thank God he had a backup.  I kind a 
>> remember him, however, saying that he did this with version 11, not 12.  
>> Certainly not the latest build of 12, which is, 12.2? isn't it?  Anyway, I'm 
>> just wonderring if anyone actually has tried it with V12, despite the 
>> warnings.  If so, was your experience also really disgusting?  I'm not 
>> saying I'm necessarily gonna try it, I might, but probably not.  And again, 
>> if I do! try it, I'll do so during non workday hours, and believe you me: 
>> yes.  I definitely do have a Super Duper image of my drive, so if something 
>> does indeed blow up in my face, it's not the end of the world by any means.  
>> I can easily enough revert back with hardly any effort.
>>  
>> I'm just wonderring before I attempt, if anyone's tried it, and their over 
>> all experience.  Again, I'm speaking specifically of version 12.X of 
>> ProTools, and I'm speaking specifically of the official builds of El 
>> Capitan, not the public nor private beta seeds.
>>  
>> Chris.
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Re: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the imminent release

[Scott Chesworth]

Hahaha, Oreo has a point of course. Still a long old road to hoe.

On 10/27/15, TheOreoMonster  wrote:
> until a clean install and you need someone to load stuff into the rack
> to save a preset again lol
>
> On 10/27/15, Scott Chesworth  wrote:
>> Exciting times. I bet the people at Slate will be pleased to see the
>> back of me lol. Thanks for keeping us informed Slau.
>>
>> On 10/27/15, Gordon Kent  wrote:
>>> Another victory.  That is good news for
>>> sure.  Thanks for your hard work as always.
>>> Gord
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Slau Halatyn
>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:07 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the
>>> imminent release
>>>
>>> FYI, Pace just informed us that the upcoming release of the iLok License
>>> Manager, version 2.6, will have support for screen readers on both Mac
>>> and
>>> windows. The migration from QT4 to QT5 was more work than they expected
>>> (which has nothing to do with accessibility, per se) and they did run
>>> into
>>> a
>>>
>>> few bugs to work around in the accessibility implementation built into
>>> QT5.
>>>
>>> This week, they're adding a number of keyboard shortcuts. As a result of
>>> the
>>>
>>> delays, the release of version 2.6 is going to be more like mid November
>>> which is only a little later than originally projected. All in all, good
>>> news.
>>>
>>> One thing to remember is that this first release is likely to have some
>>> issues and it won't be perfect out of the gate but, where there are
>>> problems, they'll get resolved in subsequent releases. Looking forward
>>> to
>>> having access once again…
>>>
>>> best,
>>>
>>> Slau
>>>
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Re: I understand this is highly discouraged at this time, but, El Capitan?

[Kevin Reeves]

Pro Tools 11 is completely broken on my El Capitan Machine.

I posted a few weeks ago my findings.

Kevin



> On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> I totally totally get that it is not suggested that we update to El Capitan 
> at this time on our PT systems.  I know that Avid hasn't officially certified 
> ProTools for 10.11 yet, let alone 10.11.1.  I think it was Kevin Reeves who 
> wrote in earlier and said he'd tried it, and it was a baunified disaster, if 
> ever there be one!  Thank God he had a backup.  I kind a remember him, 
> however, saying that he did this with version 11, not 12.  Certainly not the 
> latest build of 12, which is, 12.2? isn't it?  Anyway, I'm just wonderring if 
> anyone actually has tried it with V12, despite the warnings.  If so, was your 
> experience also really disgusting?  I'm not saying I'm necessarily gonna try 
> it, I might, but probably not.  And again, if I do! try it, I'll do so during 
> non workday hours, and believe you me: yes.  I definitely do have a Super 
> Duper image of my drive, so if something does indeed blow up in my face, it's 
> not the end of the world by any means.  I can easily enough revert back with 
> hardly any effort.
>  
> I'm just wonderring before I attempt, if anyone's tried it, and their over 
> all experience.  Again, I'm speaking specifically of version 12.X of 
> ProTools, and I'm speaking specifically of the official builds of El Capitan, 
> not the public nor private beta seeds.
>  
> Chris.
> 
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Re: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the imminent release

[Kevin Reeves]

Awesome. Can’t Wait.
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> FYI, Pace just informed us that the upcoming release of the iLok License 
> Manager, version 2.6, will have support for screen readers on both Mac and 
> windows. The migration from QT4 to QT5 was more work than they expected 
> (which has nothing to do with accessibility, per se) and they did run into a 
> few bugs to work around in the accessibility implementation built into QT5. 
> This week, they're adding a number of keyboard shortcuts. As a result of the 
> delays, the release of version 2.6 is going to be more like mid November 
> which is only a little later than originally projected. All in all, good news.
> 
> One thing to remember is that this first release is likely to have some 
> issues and it won't be perfect out of the gate but, where there are problems, 
> they'll get resolved in subsequent releases. Looking forward to having access 
> once again…
> 
> best,
> 
> Slau
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Re: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the imminent release

[TheOreoMonster]

until a clean install and you need someone to load stuff into the rack
to save a preset again lol

On 10/27/15, Scott Chesworth  wrote:
> Exciting times. I bet the people at Slate will be pleased to see the
> back of me lol. Thanks for keeping us informed Slau.
>
> On 10/27/15, Gordon Kent  wrote:
>> Another victory.  That is good news for
>> sure.  Thanks for your hard work as always.
>> Gord
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Slau Halatyn
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:07 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the
>> imminent release
>>
>> FYI, Pace just informed us that the upcoming release of the iLok License
>> Manager, version 2.6, will have support for screen readers on both Mac
>> and
>> windows. The migration from QT4 to QT5 was more work than they expected
>> (which has nothing to do with accessibility, per se) and they did run into
>> a
>>
>> few bugs to work around in the accessibility implementation built into
>> QT5.
>>
>> This week, they're adding a number of keyboard shortcuts. As a result of
>> the
>>
>> delays, the release of version 2.6 is going to be more like mid November
>> which is only a little later than originally projected. All in all, good
>> news.
>>
>> One thing to remember is that this first release is likely to have some
>> issues and it won't be perfect out of the gate but, where there are
>> problems, they'll get resolved in subsequent releases. Looking forward to
>> having access once again…
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Slau
>>
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Re: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the imminent release

[Scott Chesworth]

Exciting times. I bet the people at Slate will be pleased to see the
back of me lol. Thanks for keeping us informed Slau.

On 10/27/15, Gordon Kent  wrote:
> Another victory.  That is good news for
> sure.  Thanks for your hard work as always.
> Gord
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Slau Halatyn
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:07 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the
> imminent release
>
> FYI, Pace just informed us that the upcoming release of the iLok License
> Manager, version 2.6, will have support for screen readers on both Mac and
> windows. The migration from QT4 to QT5 was more work than they expected
> (which has nothing to do with accessibility, per se) and they did run into a
>
> few bugs to work around in the accessibility implementation built into QT5.
>
> This week, they're adding a number of keyboard shortcuts. As a result of the
>
> delays, the release of version 2.6 is going to be more like mid November
> which is only a little later than originally projected. All in all, good
> news.
>
> One thing to remember is that this first release is likely to have some
> issues and it won't be perfect out of the gate but, where there are
> problems, they'll get resolved in subsequent releases. Looking forward to
> having access once again…
>
> best,
>
> Slau
>
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