Re: Pre and Postrole and Vocal Mixing

[Slau Halatyn]

Ramy,
Take a look at the parameters in the plug-in and you'll find one titled ER 
Pre-Delay. The other parameters around it for early reflections work in 
conjunction with pre-delay.
Good luck,
Slau

> On Sep 11, 2018, at 8:34 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> While Watching a video, the Engineer said that , on vocal, it’s recommended 
> to set the Vocal reverb to Predelay, it will make the Vocal effect still 
> playing, but the Vocal voice stands in teh center exactly.
> I opened Revibe, my favorite Reverb, but can not find this setting at all,
> can anyone that is using Revibe can tell me, if it has another name or 
> something? and does anyone tried this?
> thanks in advance
> 
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Re: Pro tools rig help

[Steve Martin]

For audio/music production, you probably won’t need any of the features in 
Ultimate/HDX so I wouldn’t worry about that. They have moved enough into 
regular pro tools over the years. Audio interface wise given that you are 
running an old “CheeseGrator” Mac Pro from the sounds of things, that pretty 
much eliminates any of  the modern thunderbolt options which would of been your 
best best for high resolution and low latency. The USB versions of the 
Focusrite Clarett will probably be my recommendation in that regards. The 
Clarett 4 Pre is the sweet spot in the line up in my  opinion. 


> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Preston Davis III  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice on the pro tools rig that I 
> am trying to put together. I already have a mac pro 5 mid 2012 with 12 cores 
> of 3.46 ghz and 64gb of memory. I am looking for recommendations on what 
> control surface and audio interface to buy. Particularly with the audio 
> interface, I need something that I can run at the highest bit depth and 
> sample rate (preferably at least 96khz( and lowest buffer size with as close 
> to 0 latency as possible. A clean preamp would be nice as well with out 
> having to purchase a separate unit, but feel free to recommend one if you 
> have a favorite. As you can tell by my computer I am ok with shopping in the 
> used market if there was a solution like this.
> 
> My goal is to be able to act as a mix engineer and producer for clients 
> depending on there needs at as high of a level of professionalism as 
> possible. My problem is that I don’t have a recently deceased rich aunt, so 
> pro tools ultimate and an HDX set up is not a possibility for me right now. 
> I’d like to get close. I am new to mac, and especially to pro tools so if 
> there is something I’ve missed in my research feel free to point it out. 
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
> 
>  
> 
> PDIII
> 
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Pro tools rig help

[Preston Davis III]

Hello everyone,

I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice on the pro tools rig that 
I am trying to put together. I already have a mac pro 5 mid 2012 with 12 
cores of 3.46 ghz and 64gb of memory. I am looking for recommendations on 
what control surface and audio interface to buy. Particularly with the 
audio interface, I need something that I can run at the highest bit depth 
and sample rate (preferably at least 96khz( and lowest buffer size with as 
close to 0 latency as possible. A clean preamp would be nice as well with 
out having to purchase a separate unit, but feel free to recommend one if 
you have a favorite. As you can tell by my computer I am ok with shopping 
in the used market if there was a solution like this.

My goal is to be able to act as a mix engineer and producer for clients 
depending on there needs at as high of a level of professionalism as 
possible. My problem is that I don’t have a recently deceased rich aunt, so 
pro tools ultimate and an HDX set up is not a possibility for me right now. 
I’d like to get close. I am new to mac, and especially to pro tools so if 
there is something I’ve missed in my research feel free to point it out. 
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

 

PDIII

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Re: Mixing my Vocal track

[Steve Martin]

Yeah thats the issue with that trick is it can phase sounding. The trick really 
is to lower the vocals so that its just a hint of the left and right vocals to 
fill things out more so than keeping them close in volume to the center vocal.  
Sometimes if works better say if you  copy the second chorus to the first 
chorus, duplicate it and pan that left and right and then slightly pitch shift 
that, but that relies on the second chorus being sang well enough that it 
tightly lines up with the first chorus in order for that to work.  Sometimes 
too if they did multiple takes of a part you can use one of the other takes as 
well once again providing that it lines up tightly with the main vocal. 


> On Sep 10, 2018, at 6:13 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Steve hi:
> 
> I tried  using the Pitch2 and i did 3 and  minus 3, in my 1 vocal track, but 
> i got faze,
> I also try to move one of the tracks forward, i moved the other 1 backword, 
> by a very small amount, but the same result.
> 
> Any other suggestions?
> 
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2018, at 11:58 PM, Steve Martin  wrote:
>> 
>> If you only have one vocal to work with, isotope Nectar and Antares Harmony 
>> Engine are two of the better plug ins I have used. It can generate unison 
>> doubles or harmonies up to 4 voices. Harmony Engine probably has a slightly 
>> less complicated interface as its just the harmony tool unlike Nectar which 
>> is an entire vocal mixing tool in one. Harmony Engine also has a choir 
>> features you can add additional voices to each of the 4 voices. Harmony 
>> Engine was just on sale last month and if you check ebay you may find a few 
>> dealers still selling it for the sale price of $99.  SonyOxford has a plug 
>> in called doubler that a lot of people like but I haven’t used it myself.
>> If you have multiple voices and you need to time align them, Vocalign 
>> project is probably the least expensive and best way to do this. It’s bigger 
>> brother Revoice Pro, will let you generate Doubles (if once again you only 
>> have one vocal track to work with) or do the time aligning aspects of 
>> Vocalign as well. 
>> Also, there is the manual version of creating wide doubles  using a pitch 
>> plug in in pro tools.  Basically duplicate the vocal twice. Pan one 
>> duplicate left and one duplicate right. Then using the pitch plug in, shift 
>> one up anywhere from 3 to 12 or so cents, and shift the other one down by 
>> the same amount nd then lower the volume of the duplicates to taste. 
>> Regarding Vocalign or Revoice Pro, scripts for using them  in pro tools s I 
>> believe exist in the dropbox folder. Nectar or Harmony Engine I have not 
>> used in ProTools myself but I have heard of others on the list doing so so I 
>> assume they should be accessible. Also I am selling a Vocalign Project 
>> license so contact me off list if you are interested. Hope something here 
>> got you going in the right direction. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 9, 2018, at 1:40 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all Again today:
>>> 
>>> One of my very big problems while Recording songs here is the Vocal, most 
>>> Singers came to my studio are not professional  to perform a good backing 
>>> vocal track.
>>> So from Yesterday i decided to try finding another tecniques to achieve a 
>>> good vocal track from a person that can sing just 1 good time :D 
>>> But all good things that i found were Videos, they are using the Deesser 
>>> Plugins but i can not know what are Parameeters that they are moving etc.
>>> SOme videos they used just 1 solo track, and converted it to A solid GOod 
>>> Backing vocal, teh result was not bad at all. specially by this way, i will 
>>> avoid the Syncing problem when singing more than 1 vocal track.
>>> 
>>> So, need to know from a blind e experience, what can we do to improve our 
>>> vocal mixing?
>>> if i have just 1 good take, or i have more than 8 takes, but need them to 
>>> sound like tied vocal? what are the accessible plugins that we can use to 
>>> achieve that?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance and sorry again for my long question but this is a very 
>>> common Problem here.
>>> Thanks again
>>> 
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Re: Mixing my Vocal track

[Steve Martin]

Not aware of a demo, however the scripts in the dropbox folder has the steps to 
follow when using the scripts. You can grab a demo license and try out Vocalign 
Project with the scripts and following those steps and see how you get along. 


> On Sep 10, 2018, at 3:50 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve:
> 
> Thanks so much for all your  experience in this feeld.
> Concerning getting the Harmony Enjin, I think it’s not possible to get it 
> these days, but I Have already THe Izotop, will give it a try.
> 
> Concerning the Vocalign, before Perciousing it, I need to be sure that i can 
> use it,  i tried on One of my friend’s daw, and i can not quantize all my 
> vocal tracks.
> Is there a demo for it from a blind Prespective?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2018, at 11:58 PM, Steve Martin  wrote:
>> 
>> If you only have one vocal to work with, isotope Nectar and Antares Harmony 
>> Engine are two of the better plug ins I have used. It can generate unison 
>> doubles or harmonies up to 4 voices. Harmony Engine probably has a slightly 
>> less complicated interface as its just the harmony tool unlike Nectar which 
>> is an entire vocal mixing tool in one. Harmony Engine also has a choir 
>> features you can add additional voices to each of the 4 voices. Harmony 
>> Engine was just on sale last month and if you check ebay you may find a few 
>> dealers still selling it for the sale price of $99.  SonyOxford has a plug 
>> in called doubler that a lot of people like but I haven’t used it myself.
>> If you have multiple voices and you need to time align them, Vocalign 
>> project is probably the least expensive and best way to do this. It’s bigger 
>> brother Revoice Pro, will let you generate Doubles (if once again you only 
>> have one vocal track to work with) or do the time aligning aspects of 
>> Vocalign as well. 
>> Also, there is the manual version of creating wide doubles  using a pitch 
>> plug in in pro tools.  Basically duplicate the vocal twice. Pan one 
>> duplicate left and one duplicate right. Then using the pitch plug in, shift 
>> one up anywhere from 3 to 12 or so cents, and shift the other one down by 
>> the same amount nd then lower the volume of the duplicates to taste. 
>> Regarding Vocalign or Revoice Pro, scripts for using them  in pro tools s I 
>> believe exist in the dropbox folder. Nectar or Harmony Engine I have not 
>> used in ProTools myself but I have heard of others on the list doing so so I 
>> assume they should be accessible. Also I am selling a Vocalign Project 
>> license so contact me off list if you are interested. Hope something here 
>> got you going in the right direction. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 9, 2018, at 1:40 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all Again today:
>>> 
>>> One of my very big problems while Recording songs here is the Vocal, most 
>>> Singers came to my studio are not professional  to perform a good backing 
>>> vocal track.
>>> So from Yesterday i decided to try finding another tecniques to achieve a 
>>> good vocal track from a person that can sing just 1 good time :D 
>>> But all good things that i found were Videos, they are using the Deesser 
>>> Plugins but i can not know what are Parameeters that they are moving etc.
>>> SOme videos they used just 1 solo track, and converted it to A solid GOod 
>>> Backing vocal, teh result was not bad at all. specially by this way, i will 
>>> avoid the Syncing problem when singing more than 1 vocal track.
>>> 
>>> So, need to know from a blind e experience, what can we do to improve our 
>>> vocal mixing?
>>> if i have just 1 good take, or i have more than 8 takes, but need them to 
>>> sound like tied vocal? what are the accessible plugins that we can use to 
>>> achieve that?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance and sorry again for my long question but this is a very 
>>> common Problem here.
>>> Thanks again
>>> 
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Pre and Postrole and Vocal Mixing

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

While Watching a video, the Engineer said that , on vocal, it’s recommended to 
set the Vocal reverb to Predelay, it will make the Vocal effect still playing, 
but the Vocal voice stands in teh center exactly.
I opened Revibe, my favorite Reverb, but can not find this setting at all,
can anyone that is using Revibe can tell me, if it has another name or 
something? and does anyone tried this?
thanks in advance

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