Re: Has anyone observed this with Ivory?

['onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility]

Hi Christopher. I was speaking to someone from Ivory a few months back, and he 
recommended having the Ivory library on an external hard drive. You should be 
able to just copy the library files over I think. Can't help with the bounce 
slowness. Maybe try an online bounce. At least then it should only take as long 
as the song. 

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> On 26 Nov 2015, at 02:46, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe it's just me, but I just did a session, which literally only have two 
> tracks in it, not including the master fader.  Both had Ivery instantiated on 
> them on insert A.  This is the Ivery American Concert D that I'm using.
>  
> When I went to offline bounce my session to a interleaved wave 24 bit 48K 
> file, I noticed that it took for! freaking! ever! to bounce.  I mean, this 
> thing must a been starting at around 2.2X speed on the bounce, but then 
> rapidly decreased.  This 4 minute song wound up taking, again, offline, about 
> 10 minutes to bounce!
>  
> I'm just using the default stocked 500GB drive in the mac mini late 2012 
> model.  I'm running ProTools 12.3, all the session files, and the Ivory 
> libraries all on the same volume/partition.  Probably not ideal, but it's all 
> I can do for right now.  NO, this drive isn't a fusion, nor a solid state.  
> I'm not sure the RPM speed.  It's whatever the stock drive is that comes in 
> those things.  I have 8GB ram, and an I5 processor.  El Capitan 10.11.1.
>  
> I've never seen this until I installed Ivory. Yes.  I definitely have 
> rebooted since installing Ivory.  Still, it's taking this long.
>  
> I do! have a USB external hard drive I put move the libraries to, if someone 
> can tell me how to do that, but I'm not sure how advisable that would be.
>  
> Has anyone else seen this after putting Ivory into a session?
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Has anyone observed this with Ivory?

['onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility]

OK Christopher, I imported a 90 second midi file into ProTools and had it play 
with the Ivory italian grand. An offline bounce took about 20 to 30 seconds. 

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> On 26 Nov 2015, at 12:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I already did! try that, and it did absolutely no good.  Are you having this 
> issue?  Are you using a 7200RPM, or greater drive, or a solid state?
>  
> Chris.
>  
> - Original Message -----
> From: 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 5:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Has anyone observed this with Ivory?
> 
> Hi Christopher. I was speaking to someone from Ivory a few months back, and 
> he recommended having the Ivory library on an external hard drive. You should 
> be able to just copy the library files over I think. Can't help with the 
> bounce slowness. Maybe try an online bounce. At least then it should only 
> take as long as the song. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 26 Nov 2015, at 02:46, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe it's just me, but I just did a session, which literally only have two 
>> tracks in it, not including the master fader.  Both had Ivery instantiated 
>> on them on insert A.  This is the Ivery American Concert D that I'm using.
>>  
>> When I went to offline bounce my session to a interleaved wave 24 bit 48K 
>> file, I noticed that it took for! freaking! ever! to bounce.  I mean, this 
>> thing must a been starting at around 2.2X speed on the bounce, but then 
>> rapidly decreased.  This 4 minute song wound up taking, again, offline, 
>> about 10 minutes to bounce!
>>  
>> I'm just using the default stocked 500GB drive in the mac mini late 2012 
>> model.  I'm running ProTools 12.3, all the session files, and the Ivory 
>> libraries all on the same volume/partition.  Probably not ideal, but it's 
>> all I can do for right now.  NO, this drive isn't a fusion, nor a solid 
>> state.  I'm not sure the RPM speed.  It's whatever the stock drive is that 
>> comes in those things.  I have 8GB ram, and an I5 processor.  El Capitan 
>> 10.11.1.
>>  
>> I've never seen this until I installed Ivory. Yes.  I definitely have 
>> rebooted since installing Ivory.  Still, it's taking this long.
>>  
>> I do! have a USB external hard drive I put move the libraries to, if someone 
>> can tell me how to do that, but I'm not sure how advisable that would be.
>>  
>> Has anyone else seen this after putting Ivory into a session?
>>  
>> Chris.
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Re: Hopefully a basic, easy to solve plugin automation problem

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Hi steve. OK friends, what am I doing wrong now? I’m trying to automate certain 
plugin parameters but to no avail. I insert an effect, I VO space on the 
automation enable button, I select a parameter then press on add, then OK. I 
set my track to automation write. I start playing the project and manipulating 
the enabled perimeter, and I hear the changes. Sounding good. I then play it 
back and there are no changes. All that happens is that the plugin parameter 
resorts back to the previous value that I started at. 

Any help would be very welcome as I’m rather baffled.


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 On 28 Aug 2015, at 03:18, Steve Martin monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 do you change the automation status from write to read or something else 
 before playing it back? 
 On Aug 27, 2015, at 8:34 PM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 OK friends, what am I doing wrong now? I’m trying to automate certain plugin 
 parameters but to no avail. I insert an effect, I VO space on the automation 
 enable button, I select a parameter then press on add, then OK. I set my 
 track to automation write. I start playing the project and manipulating the 
 enabled perimeter, and I hear the changes. Sounding good. I then play it 
 back and there are no changes. All that happens is that the plugin parameter 
 resorts back to the previous value that I started at. 
 
 Any help would be very welcome as I’m rather baffled.
 
 
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Re: Hopefully a basic, easy to solve plugin automation problem

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Sorry, pressed the wrong button and sent the previous email again. ProTools is 
playing with my sanity levels. Here's what I meant to send.
It seems impossible to automate plugins using the mac keyboard. My friend has 
just done it with the trackpad and it works, but doing it with Voice-Over 
completely fails. 

If anyone feels saintly enough to have a go at recreating these steps and 
telling me what they experience, or helping to put me straight on this, then 
that would be great.

I put the track on autowrite, I enable the plugin control I want for 
automation. I change the control by interacting with it and using the arrow 
keys. The change occurs; I know this becuase I can hear it, and I’ve had 
sighted clarification. I then stop the project, put the track on read, and play 
the track at the point where the automation should be kicking in. Nothing 
happens. The plugin control just resets to where it was before I started, and 
there is no automation written.

My sighted friend manages to do exactly the same as I am doing only using the 
mouse to automate, and it works fine. Sickeningly, he is also able to make 
smoother changes simply with the mouse, but that’s another story.

I have the box unticked besides the auto enable plugins for automation option 
in the automation part of the mix tab in preferences.

I really don’t think ProTools wants me to have automation control over plugins. 
Surely this can’t be an accessibility issue, as it seems like a massive flaw. I 
tried this once a few months ago using PT11 and it didn’t work then either, but 
I was too busy to try anything at that time, and assumed I was diong something 
wrong.

Thanks folks. Let’s hope this isn’t another one to add the unsolved major 
problems list.


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 On 28 Aug 2015, at 03:18, Steve Martin monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 do you change the automation status from write to read or something else 
 before playing it back? 
 On Aug 27, 2015, at 8:34 PM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 OK friends, what am I doing wrong now? I’m trying to automate certain plugin 
 parameters but to no avail. I insert an effect, I VO space on the automation 
 enable button, I select a parameter then press on add, then OK. I set my 
 track to automation write. I start playing the project and manipulating the 
 enabled perimeter, and I hear the changes. Sounding good. I then play it 
 back and there are no changes. All that happens is that the plugin parameter 
 resorts back to the previous value that I started at. 
 
 Any help would be very welcome as I’m rather baffled.
 
 
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Re: Revisiting control surfaces. Sorry, I know.

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Great, thanks Slau.

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 On 30 Jul 2015, at 12:59, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For work with Pro Tools, any of the Avid surfaces will yield the best 
 results. While plug-in parameters are automatically mapped, it is possible to 
 create custom maps. The feature is not accessible in the current version of 
 Pro Tools but will be available in the next release. That said, it'll 
 probably take sighted assistance to actually create the custom map because 
 parameters on screen need to be clicked when assigning faders and buttons and 
 , because of the way plug-in parameters have been made accessible, VoiceOver 
 isn't seeing the actual UI element for each parameter but rather its 
 underlying data. Once the map is created, however, it's easy to switch maps 
 and set defaults.
 
 It seems to me that the best surface for Pro Tools exclusively is either the 
 Artist series or perhaps the S3 which is considerably more expensive but 
 definitely the future of surface technology for Pro Tools.
 
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Re: Revisiting control surfaces. Sorry, I know.

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Thanks Martin, and have you found plugin automation fairly straight forward 
with it.

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 On 30 Jul 2015, at 08:09, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 In my opinion the Artist Mix has transport buttons when using the shift key 
 with other ones.
 
 Best! / Martin
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:07 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Revisiting control surfaces. Sorry, I know.
 
 So, I know we’ve done this lots before, but I’m back to thinking about 
 control
 surfaces. I really can’t work effectively without being able to automate
 plugins with a control surface, and I really don’t want to abandon ProTools,
 given that I’m getting pretty clued up about it, and I work pretty quickly 
 with
 it. So, I was thinking about the Artist Mix. I know it doesn’t have transport
 buttons, which is a bit irritating, however I wonder if I am able to use the
 artist Mix with my BCF control surface, then I could use the BCF2000 as a
 transport control surface, and maybe even use it for fader and pan
 automation, and I can use my Artist Mix for pluguin automation. Does that
 sound plausible? Also, is it easy enough to choose what the faders and knobs
 automate. In other words, is choosing what the faders do, and what plugin
 controls easy to achieve with VoiceOver and PT?
 
 Your thoughts are very welcome.
 
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 Website: http://www.davideagle.co.uk
 
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Re: Ivory ii italian grand and uprights presets

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Hi Scott, a dropbox folder might be a good idea. If there are no other Ivory 
precepts then I shall create some next week, and share them with the list. 
Obviously Matt is more than welcome to put them up on ProTools with speech to. 
Thanks.

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 On 23 Jul 2015, at 05:47, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 A dropbox folder perhaps?
 
 I can't recall seeing any Ivory presets floating around publicly other
 than the ones Slau made, which were the American Concert series.
 
 Scott
 
 On 7/22/15, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Hi, does anyone have presets for the Ivory ii italian grand and/or uprights?
 I've had a look on the Protools with Speech presets page but it only seems
 to have the American concert series. Also, the Protools with Speech presets
 page doesn't seem to have all the presets provided on this list, given that
 I and others have submitted a load of Waves presets and Stutter edit
 presets. I'm wondering if there's a more effective way of sharing them that
 doesn't rely on when Matt has time to upload them.
 
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Ivory ii italian grand and uprights presets

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Hi, does anyone have presets for the Ivory ii italian grand and/or uprights? 
I've had a look on the Protools with Speech presets page but it only seems to 
have the American concert series. Also, the Protools with Speech presets page 
doesn't seem to have all the presets provided on this list, given that I and 
others have submitted a load of Waves presets and Stutter edit presets. I'm 
wondering if there's a more effective way of sharing them that doesn't rely on 
when Matt has time to upload them. 

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Re: Standing at a crossroads PT or logic in the future?

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Thanks Scott, I'll give it a look.

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 On 4 Jul 2015, at 03:27, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Dave,
 
 Pitch 'N Time is a third party plugin from Serato. I prefer the audio
 results that gives over elastic audio, but seems the gap has somewhat
 narrowed nowadays, it's primarily just the habit of doing certain
 things certain ways here. Pretty sure Slau has written a post on its
 accessibility, so it'd be worth a search of the archives to uncover
 his wisdom. He is most wise.
 
 Hth
 
 Scott
 
 
 On 7/3/15, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Thanks Scott. Looks like a combination of Reaper and Protools is probably my
 overall focus for now, but good to know that accessibility is reasonable in
 Logic. When you say pitch time what exactly are you talking about? I ask
 because my current solution for time stretching audio is making changes in
 the tempo ruler. This works great, unless you want to time stretch different
 tracks to different tempos. I am working on a crazy DJ project, and I'm
 doing a lot of time stretching on multiple tracks. As for pitch changes, I
 tend to do that by creating a region, then using the elastic audio window in
 the clips menu.
 
 Just making sure there itn't a more productive in doing time stretching iq
 PT. Thanks for your help.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 3 Jul 2015, at 12:35, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Dave,
 
 There's no native support for VST in Logic X. There are wrappers, but
 no idea of their accessibility. In any case, the stock synths are
 pretty sweet.
 
 The MIDI events list isn't accessible yet in terms of VoiceOver
 talking, but there's a good walkthrough of how a chap called Gary
 Readfern-Grey tweaks his performances without requiring speech
 feedback in the archives of the Logic Accessibility Google group.
 
 Time stretching sounds about the same in both DAWs from the little
 I've played with it. Pitch n Time is still your best bet here IMO.
 
 On control surfaces, yes Logic supports a wider range of hardware via
 MIDI learn, although I don't think the MIDI learn process itself is
 accessible yet. I'd still say the surface integration goes deeper and
 is neater in PT, but that could just be me being an old dog being
 grumpy about new tricks. I guess once MIDI learn is accessible you'll
 be able to get a more definitive answer on that front.
 
 Hth a bit
 
 Scott
 
 On 7/3/15, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Hi, thanks for all this information. I don't plan on leaving ProTools,
 but
 it might be nice to have another option. Perhaps Logic might work better
 for
 midi and time stretching. Plus, perhaps it also supports VST, and maybe
 even
 works better with a control surface, given that it probably has a midi
 learn
 feature. And I assume that Logic is likely to get more accessible over
 time.
 So perhaps I'll give Logic a spin, and use it in conjunction with
 ProTools.
 Thanks for this.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 22:53, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 i am interested in mainstage, please can you do a tutorial. thanks
 On 02 Jul 2015, at 11:09 pm, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Perfect. The MainStage and Logic instrument sets are identical. I will
 dig in next week and see how i get on. I may develop some tutorials
 for
 MainStage if anyone is interested.
 
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 21:30, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ashley,
 
 MainStage does have a learning curve but not a steep one.  I am told
 that it is pretty much accessible and all of the instruments
 downloaded
 with MainStage should work with Logic or GarageBand.
 HTH.
 kr
 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
 God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
 Taylor.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:02 PM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Keith, this looks great. I’ll definitely be checking this
 out.
 
 On a somewhat related note, Does anyone use MainStage along with
 ProTools or Logic? I’d quite like to use MainStage for live
 performances. Are their any major accessibility issues there?
 (apologies for the somewhat off-topic question)
 
 
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 19:15, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ashley,
 
 Here is a link for info that will give you a start with Logic,
 http://icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/Logic%20With%20Voiceover/
 HTH.
 Keith Reedy
 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
 God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J
 Hudson
 Taylor.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 2, 2015, at 9:03 AM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools
 Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 What’s the best resource for getting started with logic
 accessibility? I do have Logic Pro X

Re: Standing at a crossroads PT or logic in the future?

['onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility]

Thanks Scott. Looks like a combination of Reaper and Protools is probably my 
overall focus for now, but good to know that accessibility is reasonable in 
Logic. When you say pitch time what exactly are you talking about? I ask 
because my current solution for time stretching audio is making changes in the 
tempo ruler. This works great, unless you want to time stretch different tracks 
to different tempos. I am working on a crazy DJ project, and I'm doing a lot of 
time stretching on multiple tracks. As for pitch changes, I tend to do that by 
creating a region, then using the elastic audio window in the clips menu.

Just making sure there itn't a more productive in doing time stretching iq PT. 
Thanks for your help.

Sent from my iPhone

 On 3 Jul 2015, at 12:35, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Dave,
 
 There's no native support for VST in Logic X. There are wrappers, but
 no idea of their accessibility. In any case, the stock synths are
 pretty sweet.
 
 The MIDI events list isn't accessible yet in terms of VoiceOver
 talking, but there's a good walkthrough of how a chap called Gary
 Readfern-Grey tweaks his performances without requiring speech
 feedback in the archives of the Logic Accessibility Google group.
 
 Time stretching sounds about the same in both DAWs from the little
 I've played with it. Pitch n Time is still your best bet here IMO.
 
 On control surfaces, yes Logic supports a wider range of hardware via
 MIDI learn, although I don't think the MIDI learn process itself is
 accessible yet. I'd still say the surface integration goes deeper and
 is neater in PT, but that could just be me being an old dog being
 grumpy about new tricks. I guess once MIDI learn is accessible you'll
 be able to get a more definitive answer on that front.
 
 Hth a bit
 
 Scott
 
 On 7/3/15, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Hi, thanks for all this information. I don't plan on leaving ProTools, but
 it might be nice to have another option. Perhaps Logic might work better for
 midi and time stretching. Plus, perhaps it also supports VST, and maybe even
 works better with a control surface, given that it probably has a midi learn
 feature. And I assume that Logic is likely to get more accessible over time.
 So perhaps I'll give Logic a spin, and use it in conjunction with ProTools.
 Thanks for this.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 22:53, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 i am interested in mainstage, please can you do a tutorial. thanks
 On 02 Jul 2015, at 11:09 pm, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Perfect. The MainStage and Logic instrument sets are identical. I will
 dig in next week and see how i get on. I may develop some tutorials for
 MainStage if anyone is interested.
 
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 21:30, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ashley,
 
 MainStage does have a learning curve but not a steep one.  I am told
 that it is pretty much accessible and all of the instruments downloaded
 with MainStage should work with Logic or GarageBand.
 HTH.
 kr
 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
 God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
 Taylor.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:02 PM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Keith, this looks great. I’ll definitely be checking this out.
 
 On a somewhat related note, Does anyone use MainStage along with
 ProTools or Logic? I’d quite like to use MainStage for live
 performances. Are their any major accessibility issues there?
 (apologies for the somewhat off-topic question)
 
 
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 19:15, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ashley,
 
 Here is a link for info that will give you a start with Logic,
 http://icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/Logic%20With%20Voiceover/
 HTH.
 Keith Reedy
 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
 God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
 Taylor.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 2, 2015, at 9:03 AM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 What’s the best resource for getting started with logic
 accessibility? I do have Logic Pro X, purely because i needed it to
 open some projects. I’d love to learn how to use it properly but
 unsure where is best to start. Any suggestions? Is there anything
 that we can’t do with logic that makes using it a deal breaker?
 
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 13:59, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com
 wrote:
 
 Hello good people on both lists.
 Firstly i’m sorry for the cross post but as it pertains to both
 lists i thought it best to post to both lists.
 I currently run Protools v11.3 with no problems, however v12 is now
 out and when the next major upgrade comes, i’ve heard a rumor about
 the Digi003 possibly not being supported by it,which

Re: Standing at a crossroads PT or logic in the future?

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Hi, thanks for all this information. I don't plan on leaving ProTools, but it 
might be nice to have another option. Perhaps Logic might work better for midi 
and time stretching. Plus, perhaps it also supports VST, and maybe even works 
better with a control surface, given that it probably has a midi learn feature. 
And I assume that Logic is likely to get more accessible over time. So perhaps 
I'll give Logic a spin, and use it in conjunction with ProTools. Thanks for 
this.

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 On 2 Jul 2015, at 22:53, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 i am interested in mainstage, please can you do a tutorial. thanks
 On 02 Jul 2015, at 11:09 pm, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Perfect. The MainStage and Logic instrument sets are identical. I will dig 
 in next week and see how i get on. I may develop some tutorials for 
 MainStage if anyone is interested.
 
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 21:30, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ashley,
 
 MainStage does have a learning curve but not a steep one.  I am told that 
 it is pretty much accessible and all of the instruments downloaded with 
 MainStage should work with Logic or GarageBand.
 HTH.
 kr
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 On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:02 PM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Keith, this looks great. I’ll definitely be checking this out.
 
 On a somewhat related note, Does anyone use MainStage along with ProTools 
 or Logic? I’d quite like to use MainStage for live performances. Are their 
 any major accessibility issues there? (apologies for the somewhat 
 off-topic question)
 
 
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 19:15, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ashley,
 
 Here is a link for info that will give you a start with Logic,
 http://icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/Logic%20With%20Voiceover/
 HTH.
 Keith Reedy
 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
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 Taylor.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 2, 2015, at 9:03 AM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
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 What’s the best resource for getting started with logic accessibility? I 
 do have Logic Pro X, purely because i needed it to open some projects. 
 I’d love to learn how to use it properly but unsure where is best to 
 start. Any suggestions? Is there anything that we can’t do with logic 
 that makes using it a deal breaker?
 
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 13:59, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello good people on both lists.
 Firstly i’m sorry for the cross post but as it pertains to both lists i 
 thought it best to post to both lists.
 I currently run Protools v11.3 with no problems, however v12 is now out 
 and when the next major upgrade comes, i’ve heard a rumor about the 
 Digi003 possibly not being supported by it,which leads me to wonder 
 should i take the plunge, sell off my Digi003 while there’s still time 
 and try learning logic? I’ve heard varying stories about how accessible 
 Logic is. It’s apparently got a truckload of soft synths and the 
 Drummer sounds cool to me but is the learning curve worth the struggle? 
 Much of the reason why i ask is that getting a new control surface that 
 is as good as the Digi003 is is way out of the question for me with my 
 budget so just wondering what to do.
 Thanks for taking the time to read this question that maybe just silly 
 but if anyone wants to give advise i’d be grateful.
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Re: switching mix to mono

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'Actually, I don't think my bus idea would work, as you'd have to choose 
between the left chanel or right channel being represented. You could however 
simply move both pan sliders on the master fader to the centre. That will do 
the trick.

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 On 18 Jun 2015, at 19:18, byron harden sticomu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 got it
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Chad Morrison chadmorrisonmob...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 i think and please some body correct me if I’m wrong you could just insert 
 The AIR Stereo width plug on your master fader and with out selecting any 
 presets turn the master width to 0 and just bypass it when you want stereo 
 again.
 On Jun 16, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi, is there any way of tgetting a stereo mix to play in mono in p t. I 
 would like to do a lot more mixing in mono at times to make sure things are 
 sitting nicely. This was very easy to do in sonar, But have not found a way 
 around this in p t. or is it possible i need another plugin to do this.
 I know some people start there mix with all the pan pots set in the centre. 
 I can do this, but it would be very usefull to be able to flick from stereo 
 to mono if possible.
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Re: Artis mix control surface, or mackie or what?

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Hi Ramy, the limitation with he BCF seems to be that you can't automate plugins 
with it. I've done a Google search on the X Touch, and there is nothing to 
suggest that it will allow you to automate plugin controls. So I'm not sure 
whether you'd find much of an improvement between the XTouch and the BCF.

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 On 17 Jun 2015, at 13:19, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Woops. Sorry about that. My bad.
 
 Kevin
 On 6/17/2015 7:25 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
 Just a slight correction, seems like the X 32 Producer has 17
 motorized faders, not 8. I'm hoping that their next move will be an
 X-touch sized thing with decent pre's and a few MIDI ports. That'd
 probably be the point where I'd ditch having a separate surface and
 I/O for mobile recording at least.
 
 Has anybody taken a poke at the Behringer app that pairs up with the
 X32 gear using VoiceOver?
 
 Scott
 
 On 6/17/15, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote:
 The X touch is not a touch screen. It's a full 8 fader surface.
 Also, it has better components than the BCF. The BCF doesn't support
 touch automation, so you end up fighting with the fader if you're trying
 to rewrite automation moves.
 
 The BCF was made at a time when Behrenger was known for making cheap
 hardware. There's been a shakeup at the company, and as a few years ago,
 the build quality of their products, especially anything related to the
 X32 series, which includes the X Touch control surface, has greatly
 improved.
 Speaking of the X32, that is another option for a control
 surface/interface combo. The X32 producer, which is the same price as 1
 of the artist mix surfaces, gives you 8 motorized faders, 16 xlr ins, a
 ton of routing options, ,effects, etc. As a guy who once advised folks
 to never let Behrenger become part of the signal chain, I'm actually
 considering this as my main studio board because of the feature set and
 Midas Mic Pres.
 Hope this helps.
 
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Re: Artis mix control surface, or mackie or what?

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Hi Kevin, according to what I've read, the HUI mode of the BCF does not allow 
for plugin automation in ProTools, but only track pan, volume, mute, solo and 
transport controls, this includes busses, and possibly sends. If the XTouch 
uses a different HUI mode to the BCF then perhaps this is why the XTouch will 
allow plugin automation. If you've managed to achieve this with the XTouch then 
I'd be really interested to hear more, as lack of control surface pkugin 
automation is a bit limiting. I haven't managed to find anything on the 
Internet confirming that plugin automation is achievable with the XTouch. I 
suppose a call to Behringer might be the answer to determining this once and 
for all, unless we know of someone who is automating plugins with the XTouch. 
Here's hoping you're right though Kevin. 

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 On 17 Jun 2015, at 15:05, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The X touch runs on Mackie Hui, so plugin automation is definitely possible. 
 Not sure why the BCF won't let you automate plugs, except for the fact that 
 it doesn't have touch sensitive faders, which would allow you to override 
 automation moves.
 
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Re: Artis mix control surface, or mackie or what?

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Hi Ramy, built like a tank is an English expression. It refers to the 
military vehicle called a tank that is built to be strong, sturdy, solid and 
durable. So when Kevin says the Macki controlers are built like a tank, he is 
saying that the Macki control surfaces are strong, sturdy, solid, durable and 
built to last. Hope this explanation helps.

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 On 16 Jun 2015, at 21:31, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I vote either Mackie or the new Behrenger X Touch control surface.
 The artist mix doesn't give you enough features for the huge price tag.
 The Mackie control is built like a tank, the Behrenger X touch has the same 
 faders found in the x32, which tons of pros are really happy with.
 I had to set up yet another artist mix for a client last week. Still hate it.
 
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Re: switching mix to mono

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Or you could create a mono bus, and set the output of your master bus to that 
mono bus. I think should work.

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 On 16 Jun 2015, at 22:22, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Usually, control surfaces will feature a mono button for quick switching. I 
 believe there's a plug-in or two that'll do just mono switching but I don't 
 recall the names. Google will know.
 
 Slau
 
 On Jun 16, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi, is there any way of tgetting a stereo mix to play in mono in p t. I 
 would like to do a lot more mixing in mono at times to make sure things are 
 sitting nicely. This was very easy to do in sonar, But have not found a way 
 around this in p t. or is it possible i need another plugin to do this.
 I know some people start there mix with all the pan pots set in the centre. 
 I can do this, but it would be very usefull to be able to flick from stereo 
 to mono if possible.
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Re: C couple of queries about volume

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Now that is interesting Slau. From what I've gathered from researching on the 
Internet that Midi Learn was discontinued after ProTools 9. So apologies if 
I've been misinforming the list on this one. In Sonar, you could essentially 
enter on a plugin control, select midi learn, and then twiddle that knob, fader 
or press the button that you wish to assign to that control. This seems like 
the most straight forward and logical solution.

How, out of interest, do you tell the Avid control surfaces to control plugin 
controls. Basically, is it easy to achieve?

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 On 12 Jun 2015, at 00:55, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Pro Tools does, in fact, have a MIDI learn function, for the record. The UI 
 elements are not yet accessible. Even if they were, however, it would 
 probably take some sighted assistance to set up a surface because the clues 
 to what is being mapped is very visual.
 
 Slau
 
 On Jun 11, 2015, at 7:47 PM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
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 Hi Brian, I'd love to be able to help you more, but you're using the BCF as 
 much as I am. I only do panning and volume. I don't think it's possible to 
 minipulate plugin controls with it unfortunately, or at least if there is 
 then I've no idea how. Sadly Prrtools doesn't have a midi learn function 
 like every other DAW, which is a bit frustrating, and I imagine is a 
 restriction deliberately introduced to encourage people to buy Avid's own 
 control surfaces where plugin automation is possible. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 11 Jun 2015, at 17:29, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would love to get your thoughts on the BCF 2000.  I’ve just been using it 
 for setting levels and panning in pro tools, but would love to dig in 
 deeper to using this control surface with pro tools.  Feel free to write me 
 off-list.  Thanks,
 Brian
 On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:59 AM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hi Slau, I assume Flip Mode is a control surface specific thing? I'm just 
 using a Beringer BCF at the moment. However, the clip gain feature seems 
 to be perfect for my needs. I must give Keyboard maestro my attention at 
 some point. Thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 10 Jun 2015, at 21:02, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah, I'm sorry but I neglected to point out that you need to use a control 
 surface to change that value for now. It's possible to set a hot spot 
 with a program like Keyboard Maestro but I haven't gotten around to doing 
 that because I don't use the Trim plug-in. At any rate, it's likely to be 
 the very first encoder knob or fader if you're in flip mode.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 2:55 PM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
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 Hi Slau, it appears that there is a trim plugin, but I don't seem to be 
 able to change the value of the paramiter which I assume is volume, 
 given it's 0 DB reading. I can mute lept and right channels and invert 
 the phaze, but the volume slider remains fixed. Asfor clip gain, I can't 
 find a way to adjumt that anywhere. The only other solution could be to 
 put each track I want to adjust on a seperate bus, and then I get a make 
 shift work around. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 10 Jun 2015, at 19:22, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 First of all, if you're dealing with tracks that contain multiple 
 clips, forget clip gain. The Trim plug-in does what you're looking to 
 do. Thing is, I could be mistaken but it might be an HD feature only. 
 It's been years since I've used Pro Tools vanilla so I honestly don't 
 know for sure. That said, the Trim plug-in allows you to trim each 
 track just as you would with a console with tape machine returns. If 
 you want to adjust a track's output across the board, so to speak, you 
 can do that with the volume parameter of the Trim plug-in.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
  
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 5:22 AM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
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 Hi, thanks for replying. I couldn't work out how to apply clip gain. 
 There's a gain plugin in the Audio Suite, but I dont think that's 
 accessible. Plus, I get a message about audio handles being disabled 
 due to how processing is set up apparently. As for a trim plugin, 
 I've not seen that. I'm going to ghave a full readup of the manual on 
 a long journey I've got coming up, but the manual often speaks in 
 visual language, so I'm not sure how useful that'll be. Any help 'on 
 this is very welcome. Thanks a lot. 
 
 
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Re: C couple of queries about volume

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Hi Chuck' yes, I agree, Matt's Protools With Speech course is great. I assume 
this video is a fairly new edition to their training, as I don't remember 
seeing it a few months ago. Thanks for the link. It's going to be a great help.

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 On 10 Jun 2015, at 21:49, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi eagle,
 Glad that worked for you. :)
 I highly recommend Matt's course for anybody digging in to PT.
 As for trimming it looks like Clip Gain is the more eloquent method to get 
 the job done.
 When I had my 2 inch machine and Sound work shoppe desk, trim was the go to 
 for that but clip gain avoids automation for the most part.
 Talk soon
 Chuck
 
 
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  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because 
 he trusteth in thee.
 
 In GOD I Trust
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 3:32 PM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility wrote:
 
 Wonderful, thanms so much for that Chuck. Works beautifully. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 10 Jun 2015, at 19:59, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Ahoy!
 Check out this video from Matt about clip gain below;
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qGWUbWJ0
 Happy gain staging! :)
 Chuck
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 2:40 PM, John André Lium-Netland wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I assume that if you make a copy of the track in the playlist and 
 consolidate this track, you will be able to use Clip gain to do minor 
 adjustments for the whole track, and still have your automation intact…  
 If you don't need the uncosolidated track, you can simply consolidate the 
 actual track without creating a copy in the playlist.
 
 Best,
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Re: C couple of queries about volume

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Hi Slau, I assume Flip Mode is a control surface specific thing? I'm just using 
a Beringer BCF at the moment. However, the clip gain feature seems to be 
perfect for my needs. I must give Keyboard maestro my attention at some point. 
Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 Jun 2015, at 21:02, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah, I'm sorry but I neglected to point out that you need to use a control 
 surface to change that value for now. It's possible to set a hot spot with a 
 program like Keyboard Maestro but I haven't gotten around to doing that 
 because I don't use the Trim plug-in. At any rate, it's likely to be the very 
 first encoder knob or fader if you're in flip mode.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 2:55 PM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hi Slau, it appears that there is a trim plugin, but I don't seem to be able 
 to change the value of the paramiter which I assume is volume, given it's 0 
 DB reading. I can mute lept and right channels and invert the phaze, but the 
 volume slider remains fixed. Asfor clip gain, I can't find a way to adjumt 
 that anywhere. The only other solution could be to put each track I want to 
 adjust on a seperate bus, and then I get a make shift work around. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 10 Jun 2015, at 19:22, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 First of all, if you're dealing with tracks that contain multiple clips, 
 forget clip gain. The Trim plug-in does what you're looking to do. Thing 
 is, I could be mistaken but it might be an HD feature only. It's been years 
 since I've used Pro Tools vanilla so I honestly don't know for sure. That 
 said, the Trim plug-in allows you to trim each track just as you would with 
 a console with tape machine returns. If you want to adjust a track's output 
 across the board, so to speak, you can do that with the volume parameter of 
 the Trim plug-in.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
  
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 5:22 AM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi, thanks for replying. I couldn't work out how to apply clip gain. 
 There's a gain plugin in the Audio Suite, but I dont think that's 
 accessible. Plus, I get a message about audio handles being disabled due 
 to how processing is set up apparently. As for a trim plugin, I've not 
 seen that. I'm going to ghave a full readup of the manual on a long 
 journey I've got coming up, but the manual often speaks in visual 
 language, so I'm not sure how useful that'll be. Any help 'on this is 
 very welcome. Thanks a lot. 
 
 
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Re: C couple of queries about volume

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Hi Brian, I'd love to be able to help you more, but you're using the BCF as 
much as I am. I only do panning and volume. I don't think it's possible to 
minipulate plugin controls with it unfortunately, or at least if there is then 
I've no idea how. Sadly Prrtools doesn't have a midi learn function like every 
other DAW, which is a bit frustrating, and I imagine is a restriction 
deliberately introduced to encourage people to buy Avid's own control surfaces 
where plugin automation is possible. 

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 On 11 Jun 2015, at 17:29, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would love to get your thoughts on the BCF 2000.  I’ve just been using it 
 for setting levels and panning in pro tools, but would love to dig in deeper 
 to using this control surface with pro tools.  Feel free to write me 
 off-list.  Thanks,
 Brian
 On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:59 AM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
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 Hi Slau, I assume Flip Mode is a control surface specific thing? I'm just 
 using a Beringer BCF at the moment. However, the clip gain feature seems to 
 be perfect for my needs. I must give Keyboard maestro my attention at some 
 point. Thanks.
 
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 On 10 Jun 2015, at 21:02, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah, I'm sorry but I neglected to point out that you need to use a control 
 surface to change that value for now. It's possible to set a hot spot with 
 a program like Keyboard Maestro but I haven't gotten around to doing that 
 because I don't use the Trim plug-in. At any rate, it's likely to be the 
 very first encoder knob or fader if you're in flip mode.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 2:55 PM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
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 Hi Slau, it appears that there is a trim plugin, but I don't seem to be 
 able to change the value of the paramiter which I assume is volume, given 
 it's 0 DB reading. I can mute lept and right channels and invert the 
 phaze, but the volume slider remains fixed. Asfor clip gain, I can't find 
 a way to adjumt that anywhere. The only other solution could be to put 
 each track I want to adjust on a seperate bus, and then I get a make shift 
 work around. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 First of all, if you're dealing with tracks that contain multiple clips, 
 forget clip gain. The Trim plug-in does what you're looking to do. Thing 
 is, I could be mistaken but it might be an HD feature only. It's been 
 years since I've used Pro Tools vanilla so I honestly don't know for 
 sure. That said, the Trim plug-in allows you to trim each track just as 
 you would with a console with tape machine returns. If you want to adjust 
 a track's output across the board, so to speak, you can do that with the 
 volume parameter of the Trim plug-in.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
  
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 Hi, thanks for replying. I couldn't work out how to apply clip gain. 
 There's a gain plugin in the Audio Suite, but I dont think that's 
 accessible. Plus, I get a message about audio handles being disabled 
 due to how processing is set up apparently. As for a trim plugin, I've 
 not seen that. I'm going to ghave a full readup of the manual on a long 
 journey I've got coming up, but the manual often speaks in visual 
 language, so I'm not sure how useful that'll be. Any help 'on this is 
 very welcome. Thanks a lot. 
 
 
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Re: C couple of queries about volume

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 Hi, thanks for replying. I couldn't work out how to apply clip gain. There's 
 a gain plugin in the Audio Suite, but I dont think that's accessible. Plus, I 
 get a message about audio handles being disabled due to how processing is set 
 up apparently. As for a trim plugin, I've not seen that. I'm going to ghave a 
 full readup of the manual on a long journey I've got coming up, but the 
 manual often speaks in visual language, so I'm not sure how useful that'll 
 be. Any help 'on this is very welcome. Thanks a lot. 

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Re: C couple of queries about volume

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Hi Brian, I had the same problem. Go to system preferences, tab to mission 
control. There is a keyboard shortcut set to control and down arrow, which also 
sings to correspond to control shift and down arrow. VO Space on this shortcut 
and press down arrow until you hear, dash. That should solve the problem.

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 When I try this, my mission control is being launched when I do the control 
 shift up error.  Any suggestions?
 Brian
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 Wonderful, thanms so much for that Chuck. Works beautifully. 
 
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 wrote:
 
 Ahoy!
 Check out this video from Matt about clip gain below;
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qGWUbWJ0
 Happy gain staging! :)
 Chuck
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 2:40 PM, John André Lium-Netland wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I assume that if you make a copy of the track in the playlist and 
 consolidate this track, you will be able to use Clip gain to do minor 
 adjustments for the whole track, and still have your automation intact…  
 If you don't need the uncosolidated track, you can simply consolidate the 
 actual track without creating a copy in the playlist.
 
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Re: C couple of queries about volume

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Wonderful, thanms so much for that Chuck. Works beautifully. 

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 wrote:
 
 Ahoy!
 Check out this video from Matt about clip gain below;
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qGWUbWJ0
 Happy gain staging! :)
 Chuck
 
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 Hi,
 
 I assume that if you make a copy of the track in the playlist and 
 consolidate this track, you will be able to use Clip gain to do minor 
 adjustments for the whole track, and still have your automation intact…  If 
 you don't need the uncosolidated track, you can simply consolidate the 
 actual track without creating a copy in the playlist.
 
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Re: C couple of queries about volume

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Hi John, I probably could get away with using clip gain, but I can't find out 
how to actually go about using it. Any ideas? Thanks. 

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 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I assume that if you make a copy of the track in the playlist and consolidate 
 this track, you will be able to use Clip gain to do minor adjustments for the 
 whole track, and still have your automation intact…  If you don't need the 
 uncosolidated track, you can simply consolidate the actual track without 
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Re: C couple of queries about volume

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Hi Slau, it appears that there is a trim plugin, but I don't seem to be able to 
change the value of the paramiter which I assume is volume, given it's 0 DB 
reading. I can mute lept and right channels and invert the phaze, but the 
volume slider remains fixed. Asfor clip gain, I can't find a way to adjumt that 
anywhere. The only other solution could be to put each track I want to adjust 
on a seperate bus, and then I get a make shift work around. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 Jun 2015, at 19:22, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 First of all, if you're dealing with tracks that contain multiple clips, 
 forget clip gain. The Trim plug-in does what you're looking to do. Thing is, 
 I could be mistaken but it might be an HD feature only. It's been years since 
 I've used Pro Tools vanilla so I honestly don't know for sure. That said, the 
 Trim plug-in allows you to trim each track just as you would with a console 
 with tape machine returns. If you want to adjust a track's output across the 
 board, so to speak, you can do that with the volume parameter of the Trim 
 plug-in.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
  
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 5:22 AM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi, thanks for replying. I couldn't work out how to apply clip gain. 
 There's a gain plugin in the Audio Suite, but I dont think that's 
 accessible. Plus, I get a message about audio handles being disabled due to 
 how processing is set up apparently. As for a trim plugin, I've not seen 
 that. I'm going to ghave a full readup of the manual on a long journey I've 
 got coming up, but the manual often speaks in visual language, so I'm not 
 sure how useful that'll be. Any help 'on this is very welcome. Thanks a 
 lot. 
 
 
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Re: Elastic audio revisited

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Hi Chuck, ticks is selected. I had it working before, but it just won't work at 
all now. I've even started a new project but it's still not working. The audio 
will not change. If you could talk me through how you would go about then I can 
see if I've missed anything. Thanks for your help. I've spent the wrole day on 
this one.

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 wrote:
 
 Hi eagle,
 ,
 Make sure that all the tracks you want to change tempo are set to Tic based.
 HTH
 Chuck
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 1:45 PM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility wrote:
 
 I would do, but I seem to have broken it again, and can't work out how to do 
 it. I will post something once I am more certain with what the heck is going 
 on.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 8 Jun 2015, at 18:42, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you have a chance, perhaps you can outline your steps for reference? It 
 may be the same elastic audio steps that have been posted on the list 
 before, but at the same time, you may have taken a slightly different 
 approach. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
 Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 8:55 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Elastic audio revisited
 
 Hi, I would ideally have added this to the thread I created, but I dn't 
 know how to do that when no one else has yet replied. It seems as if the 
 issue was that I had conductor selected in the midi cluster transport view. 
 When that was unticked it' all worked fine. I am trying to alter the tempo 
 of some classical music so that it aligns to a click track. I don't seem to 
 be able to make the necessary changes to th audio's length while the click 
 track remains constant, but I have mixed down the click track and should be 
 able to import the audio of the click and alter the classical piece's tempo 
 while the bounced down click track is playing unaltered. Hope that makes 
 sense. Anyway, I think it's all solved. Thanks.
 
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Re: Having a bit of a struggle changing the tempo of audio

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 Thanks Michael, that works really well, well sort of. However, I am not able 
 to make multiple tempo changes using this method, or at least it appears that 
 way. I'm trying to make multiple tempo changes, and I'm not having any luck 
 achieving this.

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Re: Elastic audio revisited

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Thanks Michael, that works excellently, insomuch as I am able to make one tempo 
change using this method, but I am trying to make multiple tempo changes to one 
piece of audio. And this is proving a challenge.

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 On 8 Jun 2015, at 19:48, Michael lockett mloc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Hi,
 you can do this by changing  the desired track for editing  from sample to 
 ticks,
 set elastic audio to polyphonic,
 
 under track view change the view to warp,
 go to the transport cluster, under  midi change the tempo, 
 Make sure the conductor track isn’t selected…
 Hope this helps
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you have a chance, perhaps you can outline your steps for reference? It 
 may be the same elastic audio steps that have been posted on the list 
 before, but at the same time, you may have taken a slightly different 
 approach. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
 Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 8:55 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Elastic audio revisited
 
 Hi, I would ideally have added this to the thread I created, but I dn't know 
 how to do that when no one else has yet replied. It seems as if the issue 
 was that I had conductor selected in the midi cluster transport view. When 
 that was unticked it' all worked fine. I am trying to alter the tempo of 
 some classical music so that it aligns to a click track. I don't seem to be 
 able to make the necessary changes to th audio's length while the click 
 track remains constant, but I have mixed down the click track and should be 
 able to import the audio of the click and alter the classical piece's tempo 
 while the bounced down click track is playing unaltered. Hope that makes 
 sense. Anyway, I think it's all solved. Thanks.
 
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Re: Elastic audio revisited

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I would do, but I seem to have broken it again, and can't work out how to do 
it. I will post something once I am more certain with what the heck is going on.

Sent from my iPhone

 On 8 Jun 2015, at 18:42, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you have a chance, perhaps you can outline your steps for reference? It 
 may be the same elastic audio steps that have been posted on the list before, 
 but at the same time, you may have taken a slightly different approach. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
 Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 8:55 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Elastic audio revisited
 
 Hi, I would ideally have added this to the thread I created, but I dn't know 
 how to do that when no one else has yet replied. It seems as if the issue was 
 that I had conductor selected in the midi cluster transport view. When that 
 was unticked it' all worked fine. I am trying to alter the tempo of some 
 classical music so that it aligns to a click track. I don't seem to be able 
 to make the necessary changes to th audio's length while the click track 
 remains constant, but I have mixed down the click track and should be able to 
 import the audio of the click and alter the classical piece's tempo while the 
 bounced down click track is playing unaltered. Hope that makes sense. Anyway, 
 I think it's all solved. Thanks.
 
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Elastic audio revisited

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Hi, I would ideally have added this to the thread I created, but I dn't know 
how to do that when no one else has yet replied. It seems as if the issue was 
that I had conductor selected in the midi cluster transport view. When that was 
unticked it' all worked fine. I am trying to alter the tempo of some classical 
music so that it aligns to a click track. I don't seem to be able to make the 
necessary changes to th audio's length while the click track remains constant, 
but I have mixed down the click track and should be able to import the audio of 
the click and alter the classical piece's tempo while the bounced down click 
track is playing unaltered. Hope that makes sense. Anyway, I think it's all 
solved. Thanks.

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Re: Having a bit of a struggle changing the tempo of audio

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Hi, here's what I did to finally get it working like I wanted. Conductor track 
is inabled it the midi cluster. I make sure that the audio track I want to  
time change is selected first. I also make sure that elastic audio is enabled 
on that track, and that that it's set to ticks. I then go to the ruler and 
select tempo. Now I can VO-space on the tempo ruler and change the time of the 
audio which will apply itself to my selection, from the chosen start to end 
time. And I can make as many changes as I like. Hope this description makes 
sense. Thanks for all your help.

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 On 8 Jun 2015, at 19:48, Michael lockett mloc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Hi,
 you can do this by changing  the desired track for editing  from sample to 
 ticks,
 set elastic audio to polyphonic,
 
 under track view change the view to warp,
 go to the transport cluster, under  midi change the tempo, 
 Make sure the conductor track isn’t selected…
 Hope this helps
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you have a chance, perhaps you can outline your steps for reference? It 
 may be the same elastic audio steps that have been posted on the list 
 before, but at the same time, you may have taken a slightly different 
 approach. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
 Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 8:55 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Elastic audio revisited
 
 Hi, I would ideally have added this to the thread I created, but I dn't know 
 how to do that when no one else has yet replied. It seems as if the issue 
 was that I had conductor selected in the midi cluster transport view. When 
 that was unticked it' all worked fine. I am trying to alter the tempo of 
 some classical music so that it aligns to a click track. I don't seem to be 
 able to make the necessary changes to th audio's length while the click 
 track remains constant, but I have mixed down the click track and should be 
 able to import the audio of the click and alter the classical piece's tempo 
 while the bounced down click track is playing unaltered. Hope that makes 
 sense. Anyway, I think it's all solved. Thanks.
 
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 Hi,
 you can do this by changing  the desired track for editing  from sample to 
 ticks,
 set elastic audio to polyphonic,
 
 under track view change the view to warp,
 go to the transport cluster, under  midi change the tempo, 
 Make sure the conductor track isn’t selected…
 Hope this helps
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 9:27 AM, onlineeagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi, I've managed to do this before but it was awhile ago and I can't seem to 
 do it now. I want to change 
 the speed of an audio track. In fact, I need to make multiple changes 
 throughout the track. I select the track I want to change. I make a time 
 selection. I make sure that I have an elastic plugin option listed, in this 
 case Poliphony. I go to event, tempo operation, then choose constant. Change 
 the tempo value, hit apply, close the window, and sit in bemused frustration 
 upon hearing that absolutely nothing has happened. Any help would be very 
 welcome. Thanks.Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Elastic audio revisited

['onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility]

Hi, here's what I did to finally get it working like I wanted. Conductor track 
is inabled it the midi cluster. I make sure that the audio track I want to  
time change is selected first. I also make sure that elastic audio is enabled 
on that track, and that that it's set to ticks. I then go to the ruler and 
select tempo. Now I can VO-space on the tempo ruler and change the time of the 
audio which will apply itself to my selection, from the chosen start to end 
time. And I can make as many changes as I like. Hope this description makes 
sense. Thanks for all your help.

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 On 8 Jun 2015, at 19:48, Michael lockett mloc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Hi,
 you can do this by changing  the desired track for editing  from sample to 
 ticks,
 set elastic audio to polyphonic,
 
 under track view change the view to warp,
 go to the transport cluster, under  midi change the tempo, 
 Make sure the conductor track isn’t selected…
 Hope this helps
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you have a chance, perhaps you can outline your steps for reference? It 
 may be the same elastic audio steps that have been posted on the list 
 before, but at the same time, you may have taken a slightly different 
 approach. 
 
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 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
 Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 8:55 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Elastic audio revisited
 
 Hi, I would ideally have added this to the thread I created, but I dn't know 
 how to do that when no one else has yet replied. It seems as if the issue 
 was that I had conductor selected in the midi cluster transport view. When 
 that was unticked it' all worked fine. I am trying to alter the tempo of 
 some classical music so that it aligns to a click track. I don't seem to be 
 able to make the necessary changes to th audio's length while the click 
 track remains constant, but I have mixed down the click track and should be 
 able to import the audio of the click and alter the classical piece's tempo 
 while the bounced down click track is playing unaltered. Hope that makes 
 sense. Anyway, I think it's all solved. Thanks.
 
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