Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Ricky Prevatte]

Kevin is exactly right for example the Mackie unit we have can be purchased for 
six or $800. You can get a brand-new one for around US$1000. If you are in 
thought of even moving to logic it will work great with logic Pro X. They say 
the artist things will work as well but that is a very huge expense for a start 
up project. I used to use a Tascam I can truthfully say I do not know how I 
made it without a surface. I would have gotten much more work done had  I went  
a head and bought something a lot sooner after leaving my Tascam FW 1082 and 
windows behind..

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154

> On Feb 17, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
> 
> What features are you looking for in a control surface?
> This might help us pin down what you should look into.
> 
> I just feel that the avid stuff is incredibly expensive, and there are 
> cheaper options out there that will do the trick, even if they aren't taking 
> full advantage of the latest greatest tech innovations.
> 
> Kevin
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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Sean A. Cummins]

FYI: not true...

Before kicking the Avid products, one needs to own and work with it
for a while, and the future is far reaching beyond the project studio
using the EuCon protocol.  The Mackie Control protocol and HUI
protocol have a finite life expectancy and are slowly being fazed out
in the industry.

For what is't worth...

On 2/19/16, Ricky Prevatte  wrote:
> Those were my thoughts as well Kevin. I would like to get up with you by
> phone and pick your brain on the Mackie. I am having great success with it
> and logic and doing even better and Protools. I can live without flip and
> Protools.
>
> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>
>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
>>
>> I wrote a huge message about why I hate Avids new artist line of control
>> surfaces.
>> If I'm not mistaken, the s6 is included in that artist line, using the
>> Eucon protocol.
>>
>> I'll give you the readers digest version below.
>>
>> Firstly, I hate the Eucon protocol.
>> In my opinion, it runs completely in the face of the streamed-line
>> workflow that Pro Tools has always been known for.
>> Instead of updating an open standard, or building a new one, they bought
>> Euphonic and clumsily incorporated it into their setup.
>>
>> The Eucon control panel has to be running at all times for these mixers to
>> work inside of PT.
>> Yaye. 1 more app to crash for whatever reason, bringing down your daw like
>> a house of cards.
>>
>> If you are using more than 1 unit, get ready to set up a router just for
>> these devices.
>> As expensive as these devices are, they didn't have the forethought to
>> incorporate a 1 port Ethernet switch into the guts of the device so you
>> could daisy chain devices.
>>
>> Luckily, the control panel for Eucon is accessible, at least it was 2
>> years ago. You could map keys and change basic settings.
>>
>> Many users are buying used command 8's. Luckily, that protocol is still
>> available, even in PT 12.
>>
>> I went the Mackie Control route because it works. I really don't care
>> about fader flip that much.
>>
>> In my opinion, This whole Eucon thing is where avid went off the rails on
>> a lazy train.
>> Instead of building something great, they bought and bolted on something
>> inferior.
>>
>> Oh well.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Ricky Prevatte]

Those were my thoughts as well Kevin. I would like to get up with you by phone 
and pick your brain on the Mackie. I am having great success with it and logic 
and doing even better and Protools. I can live without flip and Protools.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154

> On Feb 17, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
> 
> I wrote a huge message about why I hate Avids new artist line of control 
> surfaces.
> If I'm not mistaken, the s6 is included in that artist line, using the Eucon 
> protocol.
> 
> I'll give you the readers digest version below.
> 
> Firstly, I hate the Eucon protocol.
> In my opinion, it runs completely in the face of the streamed-line workflow 
> that Pro Tools has always been known for.
> Instead of updating an open standard, or building a new one, they bought 
> Euphonic and clumsily incorporated it into their setup.
> 
> The Eucon control panel has to be running at all times for these mixers to 
> work inside of PT.
> Yaye. 1 more app to crash for whatever reason, bringing down your daw like a 
> house of cards.
> 
> If you are using more than 1 unit, get ready to set up a router just for 
> these devices.
> As expensive as these devices are, they didn't have the forethought to 
> incorporate a 1 port Ethernet switch into the guts of the device so you could 
> daisy chain devices.
> 
> Luckily, the control panel for Eucon is accessible, at least it was 2 years 
> ago. You could map keys and change basic settings.
> 
> Many users are buying used command 8's. Luckily, that protocol is still 
> available, even in PT 12.
> 
> I went the Mackie Control route because it works. I really don't care about 
> fader flip that much.
> 
> In my opinion, This whole Eucon thing is where avid went off the rails on a 
> lazy train.
> Instead of building something great, they bought and bolted on something 
> inferior.
> 
> Oh well.
> 
> Kevin
> 
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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Kevin Reeves]

What features are you looking for in a control surface?
This might help us pin down what you should look into.

I just feel that the avid stuff is incredibly expensive, and there are 
cheaper options out there that will do the trick, even if they aren't 
taking full advantage of the latest greatest tech innovations.


Kevin

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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Egbert Mulder]

Hi Kevin,

I understand what you say.
I am unfortunately to new in this stuff to discuss it proper and thats a shame, 
because to little knollidge is always no fun.
I have to lean on people who are already working with control services in the 
feeld and although you may be right, I have to buy something, wen I wanna work 
smiley.
I will find someone here in Holland or Belgium where I may play an Avid service.

Thx anyway,

Mac 

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> Op 17 feb. 2016 om 13:54 heeft Kevin Reeves  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> No.
> 
> Eucon is not an open protocol. It will work with logic, etc, but the rest of 
> the world uses Mackie Control or some variant.
> 
> Unfortunately, Avid never updated the Mackie protocol in Pro Tools, so it is 
> still using HUI, which is more limited.
> 
> In a sense, the Mackie Control Pro board that I have has more features in 
> Logic than in Pro Tools, because it is using a more updated protocol.
> 
> If you are wanting absolute compatibility across platforms, Eucon is not the 
> best bet.
> 
> It sucks, but it's the reality of it.
> 
> Kevin
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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Kevin Reeves]

No.

Eucon is not an open protocol. It will work with logic, etc, but the 
rest of the world uses Mackie Control or some variant.


Unfortunately, Avid never updated the Mackie protocol in Pro Tools, so 
it is still using HUI, which is more limited.


In a sense, the Mackie Control Pro board that I have has more features 
in Logic than in Pro Tools, because it is using a more updated protocol.


If you are wanting absolute compatibility across platforms, Eucon is not 
the best bet.


It sucks, but it's the reality of it.

Kevin

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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Egbert Mulder]

Hi Kevin,

Its the avid s3 i wanna have, the s6 is far to expensive for me smiley.
But, aint it a fact that all control services now adays work with the same 
protocol?
Thats what I thought when it comes to 1 service for many apps, logic ProTools 
etc.

If you wanna send me off list, I would realy like to read your artikle.
My children are in here, so Ive not the rest and piece to read it all now, but 
Iam very curious about this matter.

Thx,

Mac

 

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> Op 17 feb. 2016 om 13:19 heeft Kevin Reeves  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> I wrote a huge message about why I hate Avids new artist line of control 
> surfaces.
> If I'm not mistaken, the s6 is included in that artist line, using the Eucon 
> protocol.
> 
> I'll give you the readers digest version below.
> 
> Firstly, I hate the Eucon protocol.
> In my opinion, it runs completely in the face of the streamed-line workflow 
> that Pro Tools has always been known for.
> Instead of updating an open standard, or building a new one, they bought 
> Euphonic and clumsily incorporated it into their setup.
> 
> The Eucon control panel has to be running at all times for these mixers to 
> work inside of PT.
> Yaye. 1 more app to crash for whatever reason, bringing down your daw like a 
> house of cards.
> 
> If you are using more than 1 unit, get ready to set up a router just for 
> these devices.
> As expensive as these devices are, they didn't have the forethought to 
> incorporate a 1 port Ethernet switch into the guts of the device so you could 
> daisy chain devices.
> 
> Luckily, the control panel for Eucon is accessible, at least it was 2 years 
> ago. You could map keys and change basic settings.
> 
> Many users are buying used command 8's. Luckily, that protocol is still 
> available, even in PT 12.
> 
> I went the Mackie Control route because it works. I really don't care about 
> fader flip that much.
> 
> In my opinion, This whole Eucon thing is where avid went off the rails on a 
> lazy train.
> Instead of building something great, they bought and bolted on something 
> inferior.
> 
> Oh well.
> 
> Kevin
> 
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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Kevin Reeves]

I wrote a huge message about why I hate Avids new artist line of control 
surfaces.
If I'm not mistaken, the s6 is included in that artist line, using the 
Eucon protocol.


I'll give you the readers digest version below.

Firstly, I hate the Eucon protocol.
In my opinion, it runs completely in the face of the streamed-line 
workflow that Pro Tools has always been known for.
Instead of updating an open standard, or building a new one, they bought 
Euphonic and clumsily incorporated it into their setup.


The Eucon control panel has to be running at all times for these mixers 
to work inside of PT.
Yaye. 1 more app to crash for whatever reason, bringing down your daw 
like a house of cards.


If you are using more than 1 unit, get ready to set up a router just for 
these devices.
As expensive as these devices are, they didn't have the forethought to 
incorporate a 1 port Ethernet switch into the guts of the device so you 
could daisy chain devices.


Luckily, the control panel for Eucon is accessible, at least it was 2 
years ago. You could map keys and change basic settings.


Many users are buying used command 8's. Luckily, that protocol is still 
available, even in PT 12.


I went the Mackie Control route because it works. I really don't care 
about fader flip that much.


In my opinion, This whole Eucon thing is where avid went off the rails 
on a lazy train.
Instead of building something great, they bought and bolted on something 
inferior.


Oh well.

Kevin

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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Egbert Mulder]

Hi Ronald,
The confusion had a reason. I googled yesterday on the s1 and the first result 
was the artist mix.
And since there seems to be also an s5 of artist, I thought that i was 
reasonable to think, all was called S in its line.
I saw a new artist mix here for 1100 euro's that's indeed a firm pricegap 
between the mix and the s3.
There is much more to play with, so...

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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Ah well, now its clear. You are confusing the S models with the lower Artist 
Series. Of course do the Artist Series exist, but these don’t have audio 
interfaces.
Price of the S3 is about 4 times higher.

Ronald


> Op 17 feb. 2016, om 07:18 heeft Egbert Mulder  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>  for what I know since yesterday:
> There are 3 cheaper models of avid.
> there is the avid mix, 8 faders 8 encoders,
>  that I callled the s1.
> I might have the name wrong here yesterday, but the service exists, smiley.
> 
>   
> 
> Then there is the avid control v2.
> This one has 4 motorised faders and 8  encoders, but also a touchscreen in 
> the middle wich makes it for good seeing people nice to work with.
> Then there is the avid s3.
> This one seems to be my goal, in combination with an Avid transport.
> The s3 has 16 faders and 32 encoder knobs.
> 
> The s3 handels not only the mixing and editing by real knobs, but does this 
> also when using plugins.
> 
> I spoke Pino Yesterday.
> He played a bit with the S3 and was very happy to see for him self what all 
> was possible.
> The s3 has modify keys and errow keys of its own.
> Also the automation has knobs for 
> Reed write mix and so on.
> You can make groups of tracks, so if you wanna listen to all your guitar 
> tracks in a song and maybe tweek some, you can do so, without searching them 
> through your whole projecttracks.
> 
> here is a link:
> 
> 
> http://youtu.be/F3pG2gI2OoQ 
> 
> This one is a youtube link. You ll hear a producer, only using the S3,   
> remodeling an old song.
> he uses the audiointerface of the S3 to record new tracks. The result is...
> Listen for yourself.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Egbert Mulder]

Hi all,

 for what I know since yesterday:
There are 3 cheaper models of avid.
there is the avid mix, 8 faders 8 encoders,
 that I callled the s1.
I might have the name wrong here yesterday, but the service exists, smiley.

  

Then there is the avid control v2.
This one has 4 motorised faders and 8  encoders, but also a touchscreen in the 
middle wich makes it for good seeing people nice to work with.
Then there is the avid s3.
This one seems to be my goal, in combination with an Avid transport.
The s3 has 16 faders and 32 encoder knobs.

The s3 handels not only the mixing and editing by real knobs, but does this 
also when using plugins.

I spoke Pino Yesterday.
He played a bit with the S3 and was very happy to see for him self what all was 
possible.
The s3 has modify keys and errow keys of its own.
Also the automation has knobs for 
Reed write mix and so on.
You can make groups of tracks, so if you wanna listen to all your guitar tracks 
in a song and maybe tweek some, you can do so, without searching them through 
your whole projecttracks.

here is a link:


http://youtu.be/F3pG2gI2OoQ

This one is a youtube link. You ll hear a producer, only using the S3,   
remodeling an old song.
he uses the audiointerface of the S3 to record new tracks. The result is...
Listen for yourself.












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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Katie Zodrow]

Hi Mac. Did Pino post any videos or tutorials about the control surfaces? I’ve 
never seen the S3 before. Slau told me Sean is the only person on this list so 
far that’s used the S3 control surface. Is this pretty accessible with 
Voiceover?
Thanks.
Katie
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Egbert Mulder  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Today I was totally absorbed in the control services of Avid, thanks to 
>> Pino. The artist mix, the transport and the artist S3.
>> The last one seems very promising, but also the most expensive one.
>> And finally, I must admid, there is indeed a very big leap between for 
>> example the behringer touch and the QCon versus the avid s3.
>> My question for now is:
>> Do any of you work with the avid s3 or the s2 or s1?
>> After watching more then 50 youtube video's I am convinced that the Avid 
>> brand is what I need.
>> All the tutorials were so that I now fairly know the layout of the s3 and 
>> everyone was using all controls instead of working the keyboard.
>> Plugins were no drama. Even better, when flipping, all the parameters in 
>> use, could be controlled not by the encoder knobs, but by the 16  motorized 
>> faders.
>> I am very excited and like to know, if I have to buy the s3, or can the work 
>> also be done by the cheaper s1, with 8 motorized faders and less encoders? 
>> both with the avid transport.
>> 
>> Hope to hear from you guys,
>> 
>> Mac
>> 
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RE: Can any Avid do the job?

[Poppa Bear]

Hello Gored, there was a guy that visited the list for a little while who had 
developed a script to work with PT and voice over that allowed his blind friend 
to use his controller as almost a standalone piece of hardware. It was 
interesting, but he only showed up for a little while. I don't think that the 
guy was using an avid controller, but I am not sure, it may have been, as a 
matter of fact it may have been one of the control 24 units,  perhaps I will 
try and find the post in the archive. 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon Kent
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 4:07 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can any Avid do the job?

I certainly have never even seen one of these 
beasts, but it sure does sound exciting.  With one of those, you really are 
running PT as if it was a piece of hardware.  How many encoders are on each 
strip?  I wonder if you get any voice over feedback when you do stuff like arm 
a track or make selections and the like.  I doubt this would work with Tim's 
control surface app.
Gord

-Original Message-
From: Egbert Mulder
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:47 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can any Avid do the job?

> Hi all,
>
> Today I was totally absorbed in the control services of Avid, thanks 
> to Pino. The artist mix, the transport and the artist S3.
> The last one seems very promising, but also the most expensive one.
> And finally, I must admid, there is indeed a very big leap between for 
> example the behringer touch and the QCon versus the avid s3.
> My question for now is:
> Do any of you work with the avid s3 or the s2 or s1?
> After watching more then 50 youtube video's I am convinced that the 
> Avid brand is what I need.
> All the tutorials were so that I now fairly know the layout of the s3 
> and everyone was using all controls instead of working the keyboard.
> Plugins were no drama. Even better, when flipping, all the parameters 
> in use, could be controlled not by the encoder knobs, but by the 16 
> motorized faders.
> I am very excited and like to know, if I have to buy the s3, or can 
> the work also be done by the cheaper s1, with 8 motorized faders and 
> less encoders? both with the avid transport.
>
> Hope to hear from you guys,
>
> Mac
>

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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Gordon Kent]

   I certainly have never even seen one of 
these beasts, but it sure does sound exciting.  With one of those, you 
really are running PT as if it was a piece of hardware.  How many encoders 
are on each strip?  I wonder if you get any voice over feedback when you do 
stuff like arm a track or make selections and the like.  I doubt this would 
work with Tim's control surface app.

Gord

-Original Message- 
From: Egbert Mulder

Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:47 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can any Avid do the job?


Hi all,

Today I was totally absorbed in the control services of Avid, thanks to 
Pino. The artist mix, the transport and the artist S3.

The last one seems very promising, but also the most expensive one.
And finally, I must admid, there is indeed a very big leap between for 
example the behringer touch and the QCon versus the avid s3.

My question for now is:
Do any of you work with the avid s3 or the s2 or s1?
After watching more then 50 youtube video's I am convinced that the Avid 
brand is what I need.
All the tutorials were so that I now fairly know the layout of the s3 and 
everyone was using all controls instead of working the keyboard.
Plugins were no drama. Even better, when flipping, all the parameters in 
use, could be controlled not by the encoder knobs, but by the 16 
motorized faders.
I am very excited and like to know, if I have to buy the s3, or can the 
work also be done by the cheaper s1, with 8 motorized faders and less 
encoders? both with the avid transport.


Hope to hear from you guys,

Mac



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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[TheOreoMonster]

Familiar with the S3 an its bigger brother the S6. Don’t think the other two 
exist. 
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
> I've only heard of the Avid S III. What are the links for the other S1 and S2 
> control surfaces? Sounds interesting. I'm trying to figure out what control 
> surface to get two for my workstation, and I was thinking of getting the S3. 
> I've used the Avid C 24, but I know the S3 is less expensive and probably a 
> little smaller.
> Katie
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>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Never heard of the S1 and S2, got a link to them?
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
 Op 16 feb. 2016, om 20:47 heeft Egbert Mulder  het 
 volgende geschreven:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Today I was totally absorbed in the control services of Avid, thanks to 
 Pino. The artist mix, the transport and the artist S3.
 The last one seems very promising, but also the most expensive one.
 And finally, I must admid, there is indeed a very big leap between for 
 example the behringer touch and the QCon versus the avid s3.
 My question for now is:
 Do any of you work with the avid s3 or the s2 or s1?
 After watching more then 50 youtube video's I am convinced that the Avid 
 brand is what I need.
 All the tutorials were so that I now fairly know the layout of the s3 and 
 everyone was using all controls instead of working the keyboard.
 Plugins were no drama. Even better, when flipping, all the parameters in 
 use, could be controlled not by the encoder knobs, but by the 16  
 motorized faders.
 I am very excited and like to know, if I have to buy the s3, or can the 
 work also be done by the cheaper s1, with 8 motorized faders and less 
 encoders? both with the avid transport.
 
 Hope to hear from you guys,
 
 Mac
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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Katie Zodrow]

I've only heard of the Avid S III. What are the links for the other S1 and S2 
control surfaces? Sounds interesting. I'm trying to figure out what control 
surface to get two for my workstation, and I was thinking of getting the S3. 
I've used the Avid C 24, but I know the S3 is less expensive and probably a 
little smaller.
Katie
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Never heard of the S1 and S2, got a link to them?
> 
> Ronald
> 
>>> Op 16 feb. 2016, om 20:47 heeft Egbert Mulder  het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Today I was totally absorbed in the control services of Avid, thanks to 
>>> Pino. The artist mix, the transport and the artist S3.
>>> The last one seems very promising, but also the most expensive one.
>>> And finally, I must admid, there is indeed a very big leap between for 
>>> example the behringer touch and the QCon versus the avid s3.
>>> My question for now is:
>>> Do any of you work with the avid s3 or the s2 or s1?
>>> After watching more then 50 youtube video's I am convinced that the Avid 
>>> brand is what I need.
>>> All the tutorials were so that I now fairly know the layout of the s3 and 
>>> everyone was using all controls instead of working the keyboard.
>>> Plugins were no drama. Even better, when flipping, all the parameters in 
>>> use, could be controlled not by the encoder knobs, but by the 16  motorized 
>>> faders.
>>> I am very excited and like to know, if I have to buy the s3, or can the 
>>> work also be done by the cheaper s1, with 8 motorized faders and less 
>>> encoders? both with the avid transport.
>>> 
>>> Hope to hear from you guys,
>>> 
>>> Mac
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Re: Can any Avid do the job?

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Never heard of the S1 and S2, got a link to them?

Ronald

> Op 16 feb. 2016, om 20:47 heeft Egbert Mulder  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Today I was totally absorbed in the control services of Avid, thanks to 
>> Pino. The artist mix, the transport and the artist S3.
>> The last one seems very promising, but also the most expensive one.
>> And finally, I must admid, there is indeed a very big leap between for 
>> example the behringer touch and the QCon versus the avid s3.
>> My question for now is:
>> Do any of you work with the avid s3 or the s2 or s1?
>> After watching more then 50 youtube video's I am convinced that the Avid 
>> brand is what I need.
>> All the tutorials were so that I now fairly know the layout of the s3 and 
>> everyone was using all controls instead of working the keyboard.
>> Plugins were no drama. Even better, when flipping, all the parameters in 
>> use, could be controlled not by the encoder knobs, but by the 16  motorized 
>> faders.
>> I am very excited and like to know, if I have to buy the s3, or can the work 
>> also be done by the cheaper s1, with 8 motorized faders and less encoders? 
>> both with the avid transport.
>> 
>> Hope to hear from you guys,
>> 
>> Mac
>> 
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Can any Avid do the job?

[Egbert Mulder]

> Hi all,
> 
> Today I was totally absorbed in the control services of Avid, thanks to Pino. 
> The artist mix, the transport and the artist S3.
> The last one seems very promising, but also the most expensive one.
> And finally, I must admid, there is indeed a very big leap between for 
> example the behringer touch and the QCon versus the avid s3.
> My question for now is:
> Do any of you work with the avid s3 or the s2 or s1?
> After watching more then 50 youtube video's I am convinced that the Avid 
> brand is what I need.
> All the tutorials were so that I now fairly know the layout of the s3 and 
> everyone was using all controls instead of working the keyboard.
> Plugins were no drama. Even better, when flipping, all the parameters in use, 
> could be controlled not by the encoder knobs, but by the 16  motorized faders.
> I am very excited and like to know, if I have to buy the s3, or can the work 
> also be done by the cheaper s1, with 8 motorized faders and less encoders? 
> both with the avid transport.
> 
> Hope to hear from you guys,
> 
> Mac
> 

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