Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Slau Halatyn
BTW, your other option, although I feel that transposing the keyboard itself is 
the best, is to use the Audio Suite Pitch plug-in to change the pitch of the 
original audio, record the MIDI, go back to the original audio and transpose 
the MIDI notes. The artifacts of the audio transposition will be fairly poor 
but good enough for reference. Duplicating the playlist at the outset is a 
must, of course.

Slau

On May 18, 2015, at 7:09 AM, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote:

 Hi guys. Is there a way of transposing when playing a midi keyboard in to 
 protools.
 I am a very basic keyboard player. I have an audio track, and i’ve inserted 
 an instrument track, and i’ve got my keyboard working fine, But i need to 
 transpose my keyboard up a tone, so i can play along with the track, is there 
 a way of doing this. 
 
 I seem to have found lots of ways of transposing prerecorded things, but how 
 do you do it going in to p t.
 Steve
 
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RE: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Tom Hessels
Hi Steve,
In Sonar you have this possibility within a miditrack called key+
I haven't installed pro tools at this momen so I can't look for you but perhaps 
you can look for yourself if a mniditrack in pt has this possibility too.

Tom.




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Subject: transposing

Hi guys. Is there a way of transposing when playing a midi keyboard in to 
protools.
I am a very basic keyboard player. I have an audio track, and i’ve inserted an 
instrument track, and i’ve got my keyboard working fine, But i need to 
transpose my keyboard up a tone, so i can play along with the track, is there a 
way of doing this. 

I seem to have found lots of ways of transposing prerecorded things, but how do 
you do it going in to p t.
Steve

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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
As far as I know, you have to do it within the instrument plugin of your 
choice.  Either that, or do it from the controller itself.  My only concern 
is, if you do the ladder, yeah, audibly it might sound ok, but once you play 
it back, will it remain transposed?


Chris.

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To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 9:02 AM
Subject: RE: transposing


Hi Steve,
In Sonar you have this possibility within a miditrack called key+
I haven't installed pro tools at this momen so I can't look for you but 
perhaps you can look for yourself if a mniditrack in pt has this possibility 
too.


Tom.




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Subject: transposing

Hi guys. Is there a way of transposing when playing a midi keyboard in to 
protools.
I am a very basic keyboard player. I have an audio track, and i’ve inserted 
an instrument track, and i’ve got my keyboard working fine, But i need to 
transpose my keyboard up a tone, so i can play along with the track, is 
there a way of doing this.


I seem to have found lots of ways of transposing prerecorded things, but how 
do you do it going in to p t.

Steve

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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

This will all depend on what software instrument you're using.

Chris.

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Subject: transposing


Hi guys. Is there a way of transposing when playing a midi keyboard in to 
protools.
I am a very basic keyboard player. I have an audio track, and i’ve inserted 
an instrument track, and i’ve got my keyboard working fine, But i need to 
transpose my keyboard up a tone, so i can play along with the track, is 
there a way of doing this.


I seem to have found lots of ways of transposing prerecorded things, but how 
do you do it going in to p t.

Steve

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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Actually, Slau, XPand2 has a key parameter.  This is why I asked what 
software instrument he was using, as if he's using that one, it's actually 
darn easy to do.


I don't normally do it, seeing I can easily play in all 12 keys, but, I know 
that it can be done, as I've done it over here in a pinch.


Chris.

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Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: transposing


Hi Steve,

Transposing what you play into a DAW is a function of the keyboard itself. 
I'd look into they keyboard's facility for transposition. Of course, it's 
possible to transpose once the MIDI events have been recorded but, for 
input, you'll probably have to figure it out from the source, from the MIDI 
device.


Slau

On May 18, 2015, at 7:09 AM, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote:

Hi guys. Is there a way of transposing when playing a midi keyboard in to 
protools.
I am a very basic keyboard player. I have an audio track, and i’ve 
inserted an instrument track, and i’ve got my keyboard working fine, But i 
need to transpose my keyboard up a tone, so i can play along with the 
track, is there a way of doing this.


I seem to have found lots of ways of transposing prerecorded things, but 
how do you do it going in to p t.

Steve

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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Personally, maybe I'm an extremist, but my advice is don't transpose! 
That's a crutch!  OK, if you need to bang something out really quickly, and 
it has to be done, like, now? then OK, do it if you absolutely absolutely 
must, but frankly, you're never going to get better if you don't just try. 
I, for the longest time cheated and used transpose.  Well, that went over 
real real freaking well when I was asked to play Oh Holy Night at a 
Christmas candlelight service.  Oh, never mind the fact that they wanted me 
to do it in C Sharp major, then modulate up to D sharp major.  Boy was I in 
for a rude awakening that night, seeing that they had no keyboard.  All they 
had was a true baby grand piano.  So, I couldn't cheat, even if I wanted to. 
And being the church orchestra was playing along with me, it's not like I 
could a lowered it to C, modulate to D, no one'll notice unless they have 
perfect pitch.  It wasn't that easy.  I knew I was doomed!  I got through 
it, but only by the hairs on the back of my scrawny kneck.


From that point forward, I made it a huge priority to never, never never 
ever ever ever! use transpose again, if I at all could help it.  Now that I 
am quite confident in all 12 keys, I feel I could now have gotten through 
that performance quite easily, which to me is very very rewarding!


Just a word of encouragement, I know some keys feel real real awquard. 
Trust me, oh, baby, don't I know it!  But stick with it!  Keep practicing, 
as though it won't come over night, you will! build the muscel memory.  I 
promise you!


Chris.

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To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: transposing


BTW, your other option, although I feel that transposing the keyboard itself 
is the best, is to use the Audio Suite Pitch plug-in to change the pitch of 
the original audio, record the MIDI, go back to the original audio and 
transpose the MIDI notes. The artifacts of the audio transposition will be 
fairly poor but good enough for reference. Duplicating the playlist at the 
outset is a must, of course.


Slau

On May 18, 2015, at 7:09 AM, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote:

Hi guys. Is there a way of transposing when playing a midi keyboard in to 
protools.
I am a very basic keyboard player. I have an audio track, and i’ve 
inserted an instrument track, and i’ve got my keyboard working fine, But i 
need to transpose my keyboard up a tone, so i can play along with the 
track, is there a way of doing this.


I seem to have found lots of ways of transposing prerecorded things, but 
how do you do it going in to p t.

Steve

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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Steve Sparrow
hey guys. lol. 
yeah i could learn to play in more keys. but heck. why. 
 I am a guitar player, it’s only a string part, i don’t really need to be a wiz 
bang keyboard player. lol.
anyway,  looks like i can transpose with x band 2, so might be sorted.
Have a good one guys.
Steve

 On 19 May 2015, at 10:05 am, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
 Agreed. learn to play in some more keys! It'll do you some good! (grin)
 
 I was at a blues jam once with supposedly a famous well-known keyboard player 
 sitting in. This guy was on some recordings people might recognize. Anyway, 
 someone calls Every Day I Have the Blues in B-flat.  The drummer counts it 
 off and we're in, except whoops, the keyboard player is in C major! The band 
 stops, he says quietly oops I forgot to hit this transpose button, and 
 suddenly he's in B-flat.
 He had been playing in C all set.  Yes I know, to the audience it doesn't 
 matter, and it shouldn't matter to anyone, even us snobby musicians. (grin) 
 But it was just amusing after we'd all been told how big a deal this guy was.
 
 Chris
 
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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I agree, if you're not gonna be playing much on stage etc, and this is just 
something you need to do in a pinch, then by all means, transpose, but it 
still may not hurt in the long run to try getting more comfortable.  No hard 
feelings intended.  Please don't take it as such!


Chris.

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Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: transposing


hey guys. lol.
yeah i could learn to play in more keys. but heck. why.
I am a guitar player, it’s only a string part, i don’t really need to be a 
wiz bang keyboard player. lol.

anyway,  looks like i can transpose with x band 2, so might be sorted.
Have a good one guys.
Steve


On 19 May 2015, at 10:05 am, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:

Agreed. learn to play in some more keys! It'll do you some good! (grin)

I was at a blues jam once with supposedly a famous well-known keyboard 
player sitting in. This guy was on some recordings people might recognize. 
Anyway, someone calls Every Day I Have the Blues in B-flat.  The drummer 
counts it off and we're in, except whoops, the keyboard player is in C 
major! The band stops, he says quietly oops I forgot to hit this 
transpose button, and suddenly he's in B-flat.
He had been playing in C all set.  Yes I know, to the audience it doesn't 
matter, and it shouldn't matter to anyone, even us snobby musicians. 
(grin) But it was just amusing after we'd all been told how big a deal 
this guy was.


Chris

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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Awesome.  Glad you were able to get it done.

Chris.

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Subject: Re: transposing


thanks chris. yep, dead easy to do in x band 2, Should have looked there 
last night. how ever all done now.

Cheers mate.
Steve

On 19 May 2015, at 4:55 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Actually, Slau, XPand2 has a key parameter.  This is why I asked what 
software instrument he was using, as if he's using that one, it's actually 
darn easy to do.


I don't normally do it, seeing I can easily play in all 12 keys, but, I 
know that it can be done, as I've done it over here in a pinch.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: transposing


Hi Steve,

Transposing what you play into a DAW is a function of the keyboard itself. 
I'd look into they keyboard's facility for transposition. Of course, it's 
possible to transpose once the MIDI events have been recorded but, for 
input, you'll probably have to figure it out from the source, from the 
MIDI device.


Slau

On May 18, 2015, at 7:09 AM, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au 
wrote:


Hi guys. Is there a way of transposing when playing a midi keyboard in to 
protools.
I am a very basic keyboard player. I have an audio track, and i’ve 
inserted an instrument track, and i’ve got my keyboard working fine, But 
i need to transpose my keyboard up a tone, so i can play along with the 
track, is there a way of doing this.


I seem to have found lots of ways of transposing prerecorded things, but 
how do you do it going in to p t.

Steve

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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Steve Sparrow
looks like it does not tom. hence the reason for my post. How ever, not a 
problem, i’ll just rework things a bit.
Steve

 On 18 May 2015, at 11:02 pm, Tom Hessels li...@bloemsels.nl wrote:
 
 Hi Steve,
 In Sonar you have this possibility within a miditrack called key+
 I haven't installed pro tools at this momen so I can't look for you but 
 perhaps you can look for yourself if a mniditrack in pt has this possibility 
 too.
 
 Tom.
 
 
 
 
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 Of Steve Sparrow
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 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: transposing
 
 Hi guys. Is there a way of transposing when playing a midi keyboard in to 
 protools.
 I am a very basic keyboard player. I have an audio track, and i’ve inserted 
 an instrument track, and i’ve got my keyboard working fine, But i need to 
 transpose my keyboard up a tone, so i can play along with the track, is there 
 a way of doing this. 
 
 I seem to have found lots of ways of transposing prerecorded things, but how 
 do you do it going in to p t.
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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Steve Sparrow
thanks chris. yep, dead easy to do in x band 2, Should have looked there last 
night. how ever all done now.
Cheers mate.
Steve

 On 19 May 2015, at 4:55 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Actually, Slau, XPand2 has a key parameter.  This is why I asked what 
 software instrument he was using, as if he's using that one, it's actually 
 darn easy to do.
 
 I don't normally do it, seeing I can easily play in all 12 keys, but, I know 
 that it can be done, as I've done it over here in a pinch.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:15 AM
 Subject: Re: transposing
 
 
 Hi Steve,
 
 Transposing what you play into a DAW is a function of the keyboard itself. 
 I'd look into they keyboard's facility for transposition. Of course, it's 
 possible to transpose once the MIDI events have been recorded but, for input, 
 you'll probably have to figure it out from the source, from the MIDI device.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 18, 2015, at 7:09 AM, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Is there a way of transposing when playing a midi keyboard in to 
 protools.
 I am a very basic keyboard player. I have an audio track, and i’ve inserted 
 an instrument track, and i’ve got my keyboard working fine, But i need to 
 transpose my keyboard up a tone, so i can play along with the track, is 
 there a way of doing this.
 
 I seem to have found lots of ways of transposing prerecorded things, but how 
 do you do it going in to p t.
 Steve
 
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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Chris Smart

Agreed. learn to play in some more keys! It'll do you some good! (grin)

I was at a blues jam once with supposedly a famous well-known 
keyboard player sitting in. This guy was on some recordings people 
might recognize. Anyway, someone calls Every Day I Have the Blues 
in B-flat.  The drummer counts it off and we're in, except whoops, 
the keyboard player is in C major! The band stops, he says quietly 
oops I forgot to hit this transpose button, and suddenly he's in B-flat.
He had been playing in C all set.  Yes I know, to the audience it 
doesn't matter, and it shouldn't matter to anyone, even us snobby 
musicians. (grin) But it was just amusing after we'd all been told 
how big a deal this guy was.


Chris

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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Steve Sparrow
actuallySlau, that’s what i did in the end. and it worked fine, as you say, 
pretty rough artifacts, but it got the job done. 
My issue is my midi controller does not have a transpose button, I never 
worried about this, because in sonar i could do this no problem, just change 
the key, and what i played in was transposed swell. So looks like a bit of a 
rethink with p t. maybe a new midi controller is on the cards.

Steve

 On 18 May 2015, at 11:21 pm, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 BTW, your other option, although I feel that transposing the keyboard itself 
 is the best, is to use the Audio Suite Pitch plug-in to change the pitch of 
 the original audio, record the MIDI, go back to the original audio and 
 transpose the MIDI notes. The artifacts of the audio transposition will be 
 fairly poor but good enough for reference. Duplicating the playlist at the 
 outset is a must, of course.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 18, 2015, at 7:09 AM, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Is there a way of transposing when playing a midi keyboard in to 
 protools.
 I am a very basic keyboard player. I have an audio track, and i’ve inserted 
 an instrument track, and i’ve got my keyboard working fine, But i need to 
 transpose my keyboard up a tone, so i can play along with the track, is 
 there a way of doing this. 
 
 I seem to have found lots of ways of transposing prerecorded things, but how 
 do you do it going in to p t.
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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

LOL!  That's funny.

Again, I didn't say that it was easy, please know that, but with time and 
practice, you will get it.


Chris.

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From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca

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Subject: Re: transposing



Agreed. learn to play in some more keys! It'll do you some good! (grin)

I was at a blues jam once with supposedly a famous well-known keyboard 
player sitting in. This guy was on some recordings people might recognize. 
Anyway, someone calls Every Day I Have the Blues in B-flat.  The drummer 
counts it off and we're in, except whoops, the keyboard player is in C 
major! The band stops, he says quietly oops I forgot to hit this 
transpose button, and suddenly he's in B-flat.
He had been playing in C all set.  Yes I know, to the audience it doesn't 
matter, and it shouldn't matter to anyone, even us snobby musicians. 
(grin) But it was just amusing after we'd all been told how big a deal 
this guy was.


Chris

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Re: transposing

2015-05-18 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Steve,

Transposing what you play into a DAW is a function of the keyboard itself. I'd 
look into they keyboard's facility for transposition. Of course, it's possible 
to transpose once the MIDI events have been recorded but, for input, you'll 
probably have to figure it out from the source, from the MIDI device.

Slau

On May 18, 2015, at 7:09 AM, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote:

 Hi guys. Is there a way of transposing when playing a midi keyboard in to 
 protools.
 I am a very basic keyboard player. I have an audio track, and i’ve inserted 
 an instrument track, and i’ve got my keyboard working fine, But i need to 
 transpose my keyboard up a tone, so i can play along with the track, is there 
 a way of doing this. 
 
 I seem to have found lots of ways of transposing prerecorded things, but how 
 do you do it going in to p t.
 Steve
 
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