Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-26 Thread Mike LockettMike Lockett
Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt.
Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for 
protools.


Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

>Hi,
>Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard
>with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a
>blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can
>a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if
>you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying
>to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the
>silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around
>that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't
>work. I got a "the requested url can't be found on this server"
>message.
>Thanks for any answers.
>/Krister

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Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-26 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Krister,

A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If 
you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation 
with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface 
is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface 
to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, 
etc.

Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote:

> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt.
> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for 
> protools.
> 
> 
> Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> Hi,
> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with 
> numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, 
> but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act 
> as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that 
> has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole 
> thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone 
> happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it 
> and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested url can't be found 
> on this server" message.
> Thanks for any answers.
> /Krister
> 
> 
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> 
> -- 
>  
>  

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Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-26 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi Slau,
Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to 
live with that. smiles.
Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and 
considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about 
using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be 
practical?
/Krister
26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn :

> Hi Krister,
> 
> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. 
> If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing 
> automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a 
> control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently 
> using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple 
> track volumes, etc.
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote:
> 
>> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt.
>> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for 
>> protools.
>> 
>> 
>> Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with 
>> numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, 
>> but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard 
>> act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard 
>> that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the 
>> whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does 
>> anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled 
>> for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested url can't 
>> be found on this server" message.
>> Thanks for any answers.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>> 
>> -- 
>>  
>>  
> 
> 
> -- 
>  
>  



Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-26 Thread Slau Halatyn
Krister,

I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the 
control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently 
researched this can contribute some suggestions.

As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say 
it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any 
time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it 
necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track 
at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with 
clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an 
issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives 
me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but 
that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the 
recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the 
Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way.

Slau


On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Hi Slau,
> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to 
> live with that. smiles.
> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be 
> and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say 
> about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at 
> all be practical?
> /Krister
> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn :
> 
>> Hi Krister,
>> 
>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. 
>> If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing 
>> automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a 
>> control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more 
>> efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly 
>> change multiple track volumes, etc.
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt.
>>> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for 
>>> protools.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with 
>>> numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind 
>>> person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi 
>>> keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a 
>>> keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang 
>>> of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also 
>>> does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I 
>>> googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested 
>>> url can't be found on this server" message.
>>> Thanks for any answers.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
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RE: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-26 Thread J. R. Westmoreland
I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation
where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time
gun. LOL

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

Krister,

I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the
control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have
recently researched this can contribute some suggestions.

As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd
say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not
under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend
it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one
track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not
working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's
probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a
moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations
without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing
whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of
course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way.

Slau


On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Hi Slau,
> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have
to live with that. smiles.
> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need
be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you
say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would
that at all be practical?
> /Krister
> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn :
> 
>> Hi Krister,
>> 
>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control
surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try
doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several
tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more
efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly
change multiple track volumes, etc.
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt.
>>> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for
protools.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard
with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind
person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi
keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a
keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang
of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also
does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I
googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested url
can't be found on this server" message.
>>> Thanks for any answers.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
> 

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Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-26 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hey J. R.,

Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's 
always the invisible attendee known as time :)
Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:

> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation
> where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time
> gun. LOL
> 
> J. R.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
> 
> Krister,
> 
> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the
> control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have
> recently researched this can contribute some suggestions.
> 
> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd
> say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not
> under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend
> it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one
> track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not
> working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's
> probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a
> moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations
> without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing
> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of
> course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way.
> 
> Slau
> 
> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> Hi Slau,
>> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have
> to live with that. smiles.
>> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need
> be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you
> say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would
> that at all be practical?
>> /Krister
>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn :
>> 
>>> Hi Krister,
>>> 
>>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control
> surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try
> doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several
> tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more
> efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly
> change multiple track volumes, etc.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt.
>>>> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for
> protools.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard
> with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind
> person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi
> keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a
> keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang
> of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also
> does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I
> googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested url
> can't be found on this server" message.
>>>> Thanks for any answers.
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-26 Thread Poppa Bear
I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on 
the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control 
surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the 
Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as 
a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. 
You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. 
Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack.

HTH
- Original Message - 
From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?



Hey J. R.,

Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's 
always the invisible attendee known as time :)

Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:

I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the 
situation
where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the 
time

gun. LOL

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind 
person?


Krister,

I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the
control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have
recently researched this can contribute some suggestions.

As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd
say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not
under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never 
recommend
it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating 
one

track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not
working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's
probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that 
a

moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations
without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing
whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of
course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other 
way.


Slau


On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


Hi Slau,
Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll 
have

to live with that. smiles.

Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need

be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you
say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would
that at all be practical?

/Krister
26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn :


Hi Krister,

A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control
surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to 
try

doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several
tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far 
more

efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly
change multiple track volumes, etc.


Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote:


Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt.
Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent 
for

protools.



Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
Hi,
Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard

with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind
person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi
keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a
keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the 
hang

of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also
does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I
googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested 
url

can't be found on this server" message.

Thanks for any answers.
/Krister


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RE: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-26 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys,

Since I am getting protools, perhaps I should get the control surface along
with it.  Any suggestions on what to get?
I might as well do this out of the gate.

Sincerest Regards,

Jed 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:46 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

Hey J. R.,

Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's
always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:

> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the 
> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been 
> under the time gun. LOL
> 
> J. R.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
> 
> Krister,
> 
> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed 
> the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who 
> have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions.
> 
> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, 
> I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you 
> are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would 
> never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to 
> changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working 
> that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with 
> you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. 
> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives 
> me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a 
> surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing 
> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of
course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way.
> 
> Slau
> 
> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> Hi Slau,
>> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll 
>> have
> to live with that. smiles.
>> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if 
>> need
> be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would 
> you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, 
> would that at all be practical?
>> /Krister
>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn :
>> 
>>> Hi Krister,
>>> 
>>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control
> surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to 
> try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix 
> several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to 
> work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, 
> solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt.
>>>> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent 
>>>> for
> protools.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple 
>>>> keyboard
> with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a 
> blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? 
> Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that 
> too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still 
> trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all 
> the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial 
> around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it 
> didn't work. I got a "the requested url can't be found on this server"
message.
>>>> Thanks for any answers.
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
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> 
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Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-26 Thread Slau Halatyn
And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it includes 
at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite helpful.

Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:

> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on 
> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control 
> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the 
> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as 
> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. 
> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. 
> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack.
> HTH
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM
> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
> 
> 
>> Hey J. R.,
>> 
>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's 
>> always the invisible attendee known as time :)
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:
>> 
>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation
>>> where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time
>>> gun. LOL
>>> 
>>> J. R.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Slau Halatyn
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
>>> 
>>> Krister,
>>> 
>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the
>>> control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have
>>> recently researched this can contribute some suggestions.
>>> 
>>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd
>>> say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not
>>> under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend
>>> it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one
>>> track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not
>>> working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's
>>> probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a
>>> moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations
>>> without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing
>>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of
>>> course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Slau,
>>>> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have
>>> to live with that. smiles.
>>>> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need
>>> be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you
>>> say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would
>>> that at all be practical?
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn :
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Krister,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control
>>> surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try
>>> doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several
>>> tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more
>>> efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly
>>> change multiple track volumes, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Slau
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt.
>>>>>> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for
>>> protools.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard
>>> with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind
>>> person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi
>>> keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a
>>> keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang
>>> of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also
>>> does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I
>>> googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested url
>>> can't be found on this server" message.
>>>>>> Thanks for any answers.
>>>>>> /Krister
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 

-- 




RE: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-26 Thread J. R. Westmoreland
That is true. I have the command-8 and it doesn't have the scrub wheel. In
spite of all that it is still a very nice surface.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:04 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it
includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite
helpful.

Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:

> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on
the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control
surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the
Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as
a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers.
You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores.
Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack.
> HTH
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM
> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
> 
> 
>> Hey J. R.,
>> 
>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, 
>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:
>> 
>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the 
>>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have 
>>> been under the time gun. LOL
>>> 
>>> J. R.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind
person?
>>> 
>>> Krister,
>>> 
>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not 
>>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps 
>>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some
suggestions.
>>> 
>>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind 
>>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients 
>>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but 
>>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited 
>>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine 
>>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting 
>>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. 
>>> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader 
>>> gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without 
>>> a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing 
>>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of
course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Slau,
>>>> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess 
>>>> you'll have
>>> to live with that. smiles.
>>>> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if 
>>>> need
>>> be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what 
>>> would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record 
>>> and so on, would that at all be practical?
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn :
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Krister,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control
>>> surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible 
>>> to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to 
>>> mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be 
>>> able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, 
>>> unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Slau
>>>>> 
>>>&g

RE: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-26 Thread Jed Barton
Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport
controls, pay, stop, etc? 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it
includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite
helpful.

Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:

> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on
the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control
surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the
Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as
a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers.
You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores.
Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack.
> HTH
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM
> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
> 
> 
>> Hey J. R.,
>> 
>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, 
>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:
>> 
>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the 
>>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have 
>>> been under the time gun. LOL
>>> 
>>> J. R.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind
person?
>>> 
>>> Krister,
>>> 
>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not 
>>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps 
>>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some
suggestions.
>>> 
>>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind 
>>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients 
>>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but 
>>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited 
>>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine 
>>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting 
>>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. 
>>> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader 
>>> gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without 
>>> a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing 
>>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of
course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Slau,
>>>> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess 
>>>> you'll have
>>> to live with that. smiles.
>>>> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if 
>>>> need
>>> be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what 
>>> would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record 
>>> and so on, would that at all be practical?
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn :
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Krister,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control
>>> surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible 
>>> to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to 
>>> mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be 
>>> able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, 
>>> unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Slau
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:

Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-27 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I bought 
myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard and the 
mixer/control surface?
/Krister

26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" :

> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport
> controls, pay, stop, etc? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
> 
> And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it
> includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite
> helpful.
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
> 
>> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on
> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control
> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the
> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as
> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers.
> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores.
> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack.
>> HTH
>> ----- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
>> 
>> 
>>> Hey J. R.,
>>> 
>>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, 
>>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the 
>>>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have 
>>>> been under the time gun. LOL
>>>> 
>>>> J. R.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
>>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind
> person?
>>>> 
>>>> Krister,
>>>> 
>>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not 
>>>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps 
>>>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some
> suggestions.
>>>> 
>>>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind 
>>>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients 
>>>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but 
>>>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited 
>>>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine 
>>>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting 
>>>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. 
>>>> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader 
>>>> gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without 
>>>> a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing 
>>>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of
> course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way.
>>>> 
>>>> Slau
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Slau,
>>>>> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess 
>>>>> you'll have
>>>> to live with that. smiles.
>>>>> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if 
>>>>> need
>>>> be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what 
>>>> would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record 
>>>> and so on, would that at all be practical?
>>>>> /Krister
>>>>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi 

Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-27 Thread Poppa Bear
Typicly you would run your control surface into your mac via fire wire and 
most new midi keyboards are USB, and the keyboards USB would run into a USB 
port on the Mac as well.
- Original Message - 
From: "Krister Ekstrom" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?


Hi,
All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I bought 
myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard and 
the mixer/control surface?

/Krister

26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" :


Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport
controls, pay, stop, etc?

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it
includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite
helpful.

Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things 
on
the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a 
control

surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the
Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, 
as
a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 
mixers.

You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores.
Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack.

HTH
- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn"

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind 
person?




Hey J. R.,

Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session,
there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:


I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the
situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have
been under the time gun. LOL

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind

person?


Krister,

I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not
followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps
others who have recently researched this can contribute some

suggestions.


As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind
user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients
and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but
I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited
to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine
working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting
in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue.
Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader
gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without
a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing
whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, 
of
course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other 
way.


Slau


On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


Hi Slau,
Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess
you'll have

to live with that. smiles.

Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if
need

be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what
would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record
and so on, would that at all be practical?

/Krister
26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn :


Hi Krister,

A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control

surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible
to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to
mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be
able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute,
unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc.


Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote:


Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt.
Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your
intent for

protools.



Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
Hi,
Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple
keyboard

with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a
blind person, but what m

Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-27 Thread Slau Halatyn
In the case of most interfaces, they have MIDI ports built in. In the cases 
where there is no MIDI implementation, you'll need some type of USB MIDI 
interface like anything from M-Audio. For keyboards, depending on the 
controller, they might have a USB interface or MIDI or both.

Slau

On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Hi,
> All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I bought 
> myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard and 
> the mixer/control surface?
> /Krister
> 
> 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" :
> 
>> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport
>> controls, pay, stop, etc? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Slau Halatyn
>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
>> 
>> And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it
>> includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite
>> helpful.
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on
>> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control
>> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the
>> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as
>> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers.
>> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores.
>> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack.
>>> HTH
>>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hey J. R.,
>>>> 
>>>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, 
>>>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the 
>>>>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have 
>>>>> been under the time gun. LOL
>>>>> 
>>>>> J. R.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind
>> person?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Krister,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not 
>>>>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps 
>>>>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some
>> suggestions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind 
>>>>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients 
>>>>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but 
>>>>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited 
>>>>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine 
>>>>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting 
>>>>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. 
>>>>> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader 
>>>>> gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without 
>>>>> a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing 
>>>>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of
>> course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Slau
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrot

Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-27 Thread Nick Gawronski
On Sun, January 27, 2013 5:11 am, Poppa Bear wrote:
> Typicly you would run your control surface into your mac via fire wire and
> most new midi keyboards are USB, and the keyboards USB would run into a
> USB
> port on the Mac as well.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Krister Ekstrom" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:26 AM
> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
>
>
> Hi,
> All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I
> bought
> myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard
> and
> the mixer/control surface?
> /Krister
>
> 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" :
>
>> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like
>> transport
>> controls, pay, stop, etc?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Slau Halatyn
>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind
>> person?
>>
>> And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it
>> includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite
>> helpful.
>>
>> Slau
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things
>>> on
>> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a
>> control
>> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the
>> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry
>> level,
>> as
>> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003
>> mixers.
>> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores.
>> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack.
>>> HTH
>>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn"
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind
>>> person?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey J. R.,
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session,
>>>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the
>>>>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have
>>>>> been under the time gun. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> J. R.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind
>> person?
>>>>>
>>>>> Krister,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not
>>>>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps
>>>>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some
>> suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind
>>>>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients
>>>>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but
>>>>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited
>>>>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine
>>>>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting
>>>>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue.
>>>>> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader
>>>>> gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without
>>>>> a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing
>>>>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio,
>>>>> of
>> course, I'm back to the Control|24 and c

Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-27 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
So, if i get a control surface, the MBox isn't needed at all, right? I looked 
at the pricing of the Digi003 Factory fader and it was way way over my budget 
with a 5 figure price tag in Swedish crowns.
/Krister

27 jan 2013 kl. 19:31 skrev Slau Halatyn :

> In the case of most interfaces, they have MIDI ports built in. In the cases 
> where there is no MIDI implementation, you'll need some type of USB MIDI 
> interface like anything from M-Audio. For keyboards, depending on the 
> controller, they might have a USB interface or MIDI or both.
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I bought 
>> myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard and 
>> the mixer/control surface?
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" :
>> 
>>> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport
>>> controls, pay, stop, etc? 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Slau Halatyn
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
>>> 
>>> And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it
>>> includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite
>>> helpful.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on
>>> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control
>>> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the
>>> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as
>>> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers.
>>> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores.
>>> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack.
>>>> HTH
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>>>> 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hey J. R.,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, 
>>>>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the 
>>>>>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have 
>>>>>> been under the time gun. LOL
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> J. R.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
>>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind
>>> person?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Krister,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not 
>>>>>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps 
>>>>>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some
>>> suggestions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind 
>>>>>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients 
>>>>>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but 
>>>>>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited 
>>>>>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine 
>>>>>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting 
>>>>>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. 
>

Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-27 Thread Slau Halatyn
Krister,

the 003 is both a control surface and an interface in one unit. The MBox is 
just an interface alone. Depending on which MBox you have, it's probably just a 
FireWire port. Various control surfaces out there would either be USB, MIDI or 
Ethernet. Most likely, you'll encounter either USB or MIDI.

Slau

On Jan 27, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Hi,
> So, if i get a control surface, the MBox isn't needed at all, right? I looked 
> at the pricing of the Digi003 Factory fader and it was way way over my budget 
> with a 5 figure price tag in Swedish crowns.
> /Krister
> 
> 27 jan 2013 kl. 19:31 skrev Slau Halatyn :
> 
>> In the case of most interfaces, they have MIDI ports built in. In the cases 
>> where there is no MIDI implementation, you'll need some type of USB MIDI 
>> interface like anything from M-Audio. For keyboards, depending on the 
>> controller, they might have a USB interface or MIDI or both.
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I 
>>> bought myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi 
>>> keyboard and the mixer/control surface?
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" :
>>> 
>>>> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport
>>>> controls, pay, stop, etc? 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Slau Halatyn
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
>>>> 
>>>> And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it
>>>> includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite
>>>> helpful.
>>>> 
>>>> Slau
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on
>>>> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control
>>>> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the
>>>> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, 
>>>> as
>>>> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers.
>>>> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores.
>>>> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack.
>>>>> HTH
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey J. R.,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, 
>>>>>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the 
>>>>>>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have 
>>>>>>> been under the time gun. LOL
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> J. R.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
>>>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind
>>>> person?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Krister,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not 
>>>>>>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps 
>>>>>>> others who have recently researched t

Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

2013-01-31 Thread Kevin Reeves
A control surface is different from an interface. The M Box has all your ins 
and outs for recording and playback. The control surface controls the faders on 
screen. Some surfaces have an interface built in like the 003, but the BCF 2000 
is just the control surface. So, you'll need both at this point, unless you 
eventually upgrade to a surface with an interface built in.

Kevin

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