Re: some more details about the meeting and your support
Thanks, Chris. No worries at all. We're all good all around. Cheers, Slau On Nov 14, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Being I wasn't much involved in this thread, although I was to a very small > degree, I, too, would like to publicly apologize to Slau if perhaps I got a > bit carried away. > > Thank you kindly, >
Re: some more details about the meeting and your support
Being I wasn't much involved in this thread, although I was to a very small degree, I, too, would like to publicly apologize to Slau if perhaps I got a bit carried away. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions Blog: http://www.clgproductions.org Podcast: http://clgproductions.podhoster.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com IMessage/Facetime: theblindmusic...@att.net Windows Live Messenger: ch...@blindperspectives.net Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/christopher.gilland Skype: twinklesfriend2007 Send me a fax from any standard fax machine: 704-697-2069 Google Voice: (Please use sparingly): 980-272-8570 - Original Message - From: "Nickus de Vos" To: "Pro Tools Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:40 PM Subject: Re: some more details about the meeting and your support Hi Slau No matter what, you are still the man in charge, the boss and I do appriciate everything you have done so far for PT accessibility. The reason for my suggestion earlyer on the other thread was because I think it might help in some way to maybe speed things up a bit if needed. However Slau, I trust your judgment and that is why I won't aproach the PT expert guys on my own, if there's someone who must do it, it must be you when ever you think the time is right. I'm sorry for sometimes disaggreeing with you, I'm just so passionit about this and it sometimes feals as if we're standing still and more gets broken than what gets improved or fixed. Taking nothing away from the guys doing the PT and music thing as a hobby, much like yourself, sound and music is my life and eventually PT will be my bread and butter. Currently my bread and butter is not exclusively PT because I'm involved in other ventures and because of the industry I can't venture in to the recording world full time at the moment however I have strong future plans to do so. We are already very far with PT accessibility but it is important that accessibility keeps improving if not at least staying the same in future PT versions. As said earlyer the entire PT comunity is currently unsure about the future especially with what's going to happen in PT11 with older hardware and then there's also 3rd party plug manufacturers having to adopt the aax standard. Totally breaking something in a new version of PT for example aax not working when PT10 launched is simply unexceptable and very crucial to someone who use PT to pay the bills. Anyway enough for now, Slau, I'm 100% behind you and your dissisions, hope there's no hard feelings. Chris Norman wrote: Sorry, hit the wrong key there... There's obviously things you can't discuss, and that's fine, but as you said, when people don't know the whole truth, they tend to jump to assumptions or whatever, as we have obviously done with suggesting Avid be brought into the loop regarding this bug and so on. But, now you've said all that, I'll personally try and be more understanding etc, but please please please, if there's anything we can do, please let us know. I feel strongly about Pro Tools accessibility, and not because I think it's my right as a blind user to be able to use Pro Tools, but because I enjoy working with Pro Tools, and it's a world better than using Garage Band to record with. Maybe if and when logic Accessibility comes along, I'll feel different, Logic certainly looks like a nice piece of software, but I'm sure there'll always be room for PT. Anyways, I'll stop rambling now, but stay on it, and remember there's a whole community willing to help in any way we can. Look forward to hearing of your progress, and as always, have fun! Take care, Chris Norman On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:27, Slau Halatyn wrote: > Members of this list, > > I'm writing an open letter to all of you with my concerns and a request. > I've been working on the issue of Pro Tools accessibility for a very > long time. I wasn't involved with the initial progress back in OS 9 but > I did become deeply involved under OS X. I never campaigned for this > "position," for lack of a better word but I took on the role, firstly, > for personal reasons, having wanted to have an accessible platform as an > audio engineer and, secondly, for the sake of many blind musicians who > needed a unified voice representing the immediate concerns for an > accessible Pro Tools platform. I've spent enormous sums of money and > countless hours on this project. I never asked for a dime, mostly > because of my personal interest in the outcome but also because I never > wanted to feel like I was beholden to anybody in any way. There were > times, sometimes huge swaths of time, that often passed with no visible > results but I knew i
Re: some more details about the meeting and your support
No worries, Nickus. You needn't apologize for a difference of opinion. That's your right as a human being. I do appreciate your trust in the near future. I've gotten at least some results in the past, I have a feeling I might be able to get some more results in the near future. There is a very specific circumstance under which we might need a lot of public awareness and support. See my other post about the meeting details for more information about that potentiality. For now, we're good. Thanks, Slau On Nov 14, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Nickus de Vos wrote: > Hi Slau > No matter what, you are still the man in charge, the boss and I do > appriciate everything you have done so far for PT accessibility. The > reason for my suggestion earlyer on the other thread was because I > think it might help in some way to maybe speed things up a bit if > needed. However Slau, I trust your judgment and that is why I won't > aproach the PT expert guys on my own, if there's someone who must do > it, it must be you when ever you think the time is right. > I'm sorry for sometimes disaggreeing with you, I'm just so passionit > about this and it sometimes feals as if we're standing still and more > gets broken than what gets improved or fixed. Taking nothing away from > the guys doing the PT and music thing as a hobby, much like yourself, > sound and music is my life and eventually PT will be my bread and > butter. Currently my bread and butter is not exclusively PT because > I'm involved in other ventures and because of the industry I can't > venture in to the recording world full time at the moment however I > have strong future plans to do so. We are already very far with PT > accessibility but it is important that accessibility keeps improving > if not at least staying the same in future PT versions. As said > earlyer the entire PT comunity is currently unsure about the future > especially with what's going to happen in PT11 with older hardware and > then there's also 3rd party plug manufacturers having to adopt the aax > standard. Totally breaking something in a new version of PT for > example aax not working when PT10 launched is simply unexceptable and > very crucial to someone who use PT to pay the bills. > Anyway enough for now, Slau, I'm 100% behind you and your dissisions, > hope there's no hard feelings. > Chris Norman wrote: >> Sorry, hit the wrong key there... >> >> There's obviously things you can't discuss, and that's fine, but as you >> said, when people don't know the whole truth, they tend to jump to >> assumptions or whatever, as we have obviously done with suggesting Avid be >> brought into the loop regarding this bug and so on. >> >> But, now you've said all that, I'll personally try and be more understanding >> etc, but please please please, if there's anything we can do, please let us >> know. I feel strongly about Pro Tools accessibility, and not because I think >> it's my right as a blind user to be able to use Pro Tools, but because I >> enjoy working with Pro Tools, and it's a world better than using Garage Band >> to record with. Maybe if and when logic Accessibility comes along, I'll feel >> different, Logic certainly looks like a nice piece of software, but I'm sure >> there'll always be room for PT. >> >> Anyways, I'll stop rambling now, but stay on it, and remember there's a >> whole community willing to help in any way we can. >> >> Look forward to hearing of your progress, and as always, have fun! >> >> Take care, >> Chris Norman >> >> >> >> >> On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:27, Slau Halatyn wrote: >> >>> Members of this list, >>> >>> I'm writing an open letter to all of you with my concerns and a request. >>> I've been working on the issue of Pro Tools accessibility for a very long >>> time. I wasn't involved with the initial progress back in OS 9 but I did >>> become deeply involved under OS X. I never campaigned for this "position," >>> for lack of a better word but I took on the role, firstly, for personal >>> reasons, having wanted to have an accessible platform as an audio engineer >>> and, secondly, for the sake of many blind musicians who needed a unified >>> voice representing the immediate concerns for an accessible Pro Tools >>> platform. I've spent enormous sums of money and countless hours on this >>> project. I never asked for a dime, mostly because of my personal interest >>> in the outcome but also because I never wanted to feel like I was beholden >>> to anybody in any way. There were times, sometimes huge swaths of time, >>> that often passed with no visible results but I knew it was time well spent >>> because of the quality of the relationships I've built and the results >>> we've gotten so far. >>> >>> I now know what it probably feels like to be a politician. Let me assure >>> you that it's no stroll in the park. Sometimes, you are not at liberty to >>> discuss certain details openly for any number of reasons. I have a new >>> appreciatio
Re: some more details about the meeting and your support
Chris, We all feel passionately about it, I'm sure. As I mentioned to Gord, we all want Logic as well. Hell, every DAW should be accessible for that matter. Naturally, Pro Tools has become the first fish to fry. I'll post a separate message about Logic. See also my lengthy post about the meeting details. Cheers, Slau Thanks, C On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Chris Norman wrote: > Sorry, hit the wrong key there... > > There's obviously things you can't discuss, and that's fine, but as you said, > when people don't know the whole truth, they tend to jump to assumptions or > whatever, as we have obviously done with suggesting Avid be brought into the > loop regarding this bug and so on. > > But, now you've said all that, I'll personally try and be more understanding > etc, but please please please, if there's anything we can do, please let us > know. I feel strongly about Pro Tools accessibility, and not because I think > it's my right as a blind user to be able to use Pro Tools, but because I > enjoy working with Pro Tools, and it's a world better than using Garage Band > to record with. Maybe if and when logic Accessibility comes along, I'll feel > different, Logic certainly looks like a nice piece of software, but I'm sure > there'll always be room for PT. > > Anyways, I'll stop rambling now, but stay on it, and remember there's a whole > community willing to help in any way we can. > > Look forward to hearing of your progress, and as always, have fun! > > Take care, > Chris Norman > > > > > On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:27, Slau Halatyn wrote: > >> Members of this list, >> >> I'm writing an open letter to all of you with my concerns and a request. >> I've been working on the issue of Pro Tools accessibility for a very long >> time. I wasn't involved with the initial progress back in OS 9 but I did >> become deeply involved under OS X. I never campaigned for this "position," >> for lack of a better word but I took on the role, firstly, for personal >> reasons, having wanted to have an accessible platform as an audio engineer >> and, secondly, for the sake of many blind musicians who needed a unified >> voice representing the immediate concerns for an accessible Pro Tools >> platform. I've spent enormous sums of money and countless hours on this >> project. I never asked for a dime, mostly because of my personal interest in >> the outcome but also because I never wanted to feel like I was beholden to >> anybody in any way. There were times, sometimes huge swaths of time, that >> often passed with no visible results but I knew it was time well spent >> because of the quality of the relationships I've built and the results we've >> gotten so far. >> >> I now know what it probably feels like to be a politician. Let me assure you >> that it's no stroll in the park. Sometimes, you are not at liberty to >> discuss certain details openly for any number of reasons. I have a new >> appreciation for executive privilege and classified information. That said, >> I've been as open as I could possibly be with both the list and the periodic >> updates on the petition site. I also have a new appreciation for how one >> cannot satisfy the desires of everyone. I can also appreciate that old >> saying about walking a mile in someone's shoes. >> >> Although, as I've said, I've never campaigned for this, I've also fallen >> into this situation by default. I never asked for this and I only agreed to >> it, at least in my mind, because I honestly felt responsible and I also felt >> that I was the right person for the job. >> >> Every so often, it seems, I find the need to defend myself against what I >> essentially find to be restlessness on the part of some people. I don't take >> it personally because I understand that it comes from a frustration with the >> status quo or, more accurately, a perceived lack of progress. I, too, feel >> frustrated some of the time and I share many of the concerns of others on >> this list. I agree with many ideas and I categorically disagree with other >> ideas or at least their implementation and timing. I realize that, when I >> happen to disagree with an approach, I probably lose the confidence of those >> who see things differently. That's OK. As I said earlier, I accept the fact >> that I can't satisfy everybody's wishes—it's impossible. What I do feel that >> I have is the support of the majority of our community and I do appreciate >> that. >> >> As I stated earlier, I feel like a politician and I don't particularly enjoy >> it. My commitment to the issue of Pro Tools accessibility and to this >> community are as follows: >> >> I will continue my relationship with several key individuals at Avid in the >> interest of ensuring a future for Pro Tools accessibility. There are a >> couple of things we're waiting for at the moment that will determine how I >> feel we should proceed. Pending that initial outcome, I will make a perso
Re: some more details about the meeting and your support
Hey Gord, You certainly have firsthand knowledge of what it's like. I, too, we all, are hoping for Logic accessibility as well. That's the subject of another post which I will make when I have a chance. See my lengthy post elsewhere for more info on the meeting itself. Cheers, Slau On Nov 14, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: > Hi Salu: > Believe me, I understand your position fully. I have had a similar > relationship with Cakewalk for around 15 years now. Through meetings in > person at their office in Boston, as well as a lot of work on the beta team, > I feel I’ve been able to accomplish quite a bit. Mike Mandel has also > attended these meetings. I think companies like this like to deal with as > few folks as possible with matters like this, and you are the obvious person > for working with avid and pro tools. I personally would not have a problem > contributing financially to your efforts. It is much more expensive to fly > to LA and stay out there than it is for me to take a one day junket to > Boston. And, there has been a significant period of time where Cakewalk has > really not been able to devote any real time to accessibility issues when > they decided to go in a new direction with their Sonar X products. Even > companies like Reaper, who started with all good intentions, have not been > able to solve some issues, and the person who has written the access module > is Russian and very hard to get in touch with. I sincerely was hoping that > Apple would come through with logic. > > Gord > > From: Chris Norman > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:38 AM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: some more details about the meeting and your support > > Well, let me start out by saying that I for one am extremely greatful for > what you've managed to achieve so far. As I've previously stated, I don't > know much really, other than what me and my guitar can do, and even then, I'm > making it up 90% of the time! So, I am personally 100% behind you. > > I suspected there was some kind of secrecy surrounding what you and Avid were > doing, and although personally I believe that almost all information should > be freely available etc, there's obviously things that you can't discuss > > Take care, > Chris Norman > > > > > On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:27, Slau Halatyn wrote: > >> Members of this list, >> >> I'm writing an open letter to all of you with my concerns and a request. >> I've been working on the issue of Pro Tools accessibility for a very long >> time. I wasn't involved with the initial progress back in OS 9 but I did >> become deeply involved under OS X. I never campaigned for this "position," >> for lack of a better word but I took on the role, firstly, for personal >> reasons, having wanted to have an accessible platform as an audio engineer >> and, secondly, for the sake of many blind musicians who needed a unified >> voice representing the immediate concerns for an accessible Pro Tools >> platform. I've spent enormous sums of money and countless hours on this >> project. I never asked for a dime, mostly because of my personal interest in >> the outcome but also because I never wanted to feel like I was beholden to >> anybody in any way. There were times, sometimes huge swaths of time, that >> often passed with no visible results but I knew it was time well spent >> because of the quality of the relationships I've built and the results we've >> gotten so far. >> >> I now know what it probably feels like to be a politician. Let me assure you >> that it's no stroll in the park. Sometimes, you are not at liberty to >> discuss certain details openly for any number of reasons. I have a new >> appreciation for executive privilege and classified information. That said, >> I've been as open as I could possibly be with both the list and the periodic >> updates on the petition site. I also have a new appreciation for how one >> cannot satisfy the desires of everyone. I can also appreciate that old >> saying about walking a mile in someone's shoes. >> >> Although, as I've said, I've never campaigned for this, I've also fallen >> into this situation by default. I never asked for this and I only agreed to >> it, at least in my mind, because I honestly felt responsible and I also felt >> that I was the right person for the job. >> >> Every so often, it seems, I find the need to defend myself against what I >> essentially find to be restlessness on the part of some people. I don'
Re: some more details about the meeting and your support
Hi Salu: Believe me, I understand your position fully. I have had a similar relationship with Cakewalk for around 15 years now. Through meetings in person at their office in Boston, as well as a lot of work on the beta team, I feel I’ve been able to accomplish quite a bit. Mike Mandel has also attended these meetings. I think companies like this like to deal with as few folks as possible with matters like this, and you are the obvious person for working with avid and pro tools. I personally would not have a problem contributing financially to your efforts. It is much more expensive to fly to LA and stay out there than it is for me to take a one day junket to Boston. And, there has been a significant period of time where Cakewalk has really not been able to devote any real time to accessibility issues when they decided to go in a new direction with their Sonar X products. Even companies like Reaper, who started with all good intentions, have not been able to solve some issues, and the person who has written the access module is Russian and very hard to get in touch with. I sincerely was hoping that Apple would come through with logic. Gord From: Chris Norman Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:38 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: some more details about the meeting and your support Well, let me start out by saying that I for one am extremely greatful for what you've managed to achieve so far. As I've previously stated, I don't know much really, other than what me and my guitar can do, and even then, I'm making it up 90% of the time! So, I am personally 100% behind you. I suspected there was some kind of secrecy surrounding what you and Avid were doing, and although personally I believe that almost all information should be freely available etc, there's obviously things that you can't discuss Take care, Chris Norman On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:27, Slau Halatyn wrote: Members of this list, I'm writing an open letter to all of you with my concerns and a request. I've been working on the issue of Pro Tools accessibility for a very long time. I wasn't involved with the initial progress back in OS 9 but I did become deeply involved under OS X. I never campaigned for this "position," for lack of a better word but I took on the role, firstly, for personal reasons, having wanted to have an accessible platform as an audio engineer and, secondly, for the sake of many blind musicians who needed a unified voice representing the immediate concerns for an accessible Pro Tools platform. I've spent enormous sums of money and countless hours on this project. I never asked for a dime, mostly because of my personal interest in the outcome but also because I never wanted to feel like I was beholden to anybody in any way. There were times, sometimes huge swaths of time, that often passed with no visible results but I knew it was time well spent because of the quality of the relationships I've built and the results we've gotten so far. I now know what it probably feels like to be a politician. Let me assure you that it's no stroll in the park. Sometimes, you are not at liberty to discuss certain details openly for any number of reasons. I have a new appreciation for executive privilege and classified information. That said, I've been as open as I could possibly be with both the list and the periodic updates on the petition site. I also have a new appreciation for how one cannot satisfy the desires of everyone. I can also appreciate that old saying about walking a mile in someone's shoes. Although, as I've said, I've never campaigned for this, I've also fallen into this situation by default. I never asked for this and I only agreed to it, at least in my mind, because I honestly felt responsible and I also felt that I was the right person for the job. Every so often, it seems, I find the need to defend myself against what I essentially find to be restlessness on the part of some people. I don't take it personally because I understand that it comes from a frustration with the status quo or, more accurately, a perceived lack of progress. I, too, feel frustrated some of the time and I share many of the concerns of others on this list. I agree with many ideas and I categorically disagree with other ideas or at least their implementation and timing. I realize that, when I happen to disagree with an approach, I probably lose the confidence of those who see things differently. That's OK. As I said earlier, I accept the fact that I can't satisfy everybody's wishes—it's impossible. What I do feel that I have is the support of the majority of our community and I do appreciate that. As I stated earlier, I feel like a politician and I don't particularly enjoy it. My commitment to the issue of Pro Tools a
Re: some more details about the meeting and your support
Hi Slau No matter what, you are still the man in charge, the boss and I do appriciate everything you have done so far for PT accessibility. The reason for my suggestion earlyer on the other thread was because I think it might help in some way to maybe speed things up a bit if needed. However Slau, I trust your judgment and that is why I won't aproach the PT expert guys on my own, if there's someone who must do it, it must be you when ever you think the time is right. I'm sorry for sometimes disaggreeing with you, I'm just so passionit about this and it sometimes feals as if we're standing still and more gets broken than what gets improved or fixed. Taking nothing away from the guys doing the PT and music thing as a hobby, much like yourself, sound and music is my life and eventually PT will be my bread and butter. Currently my bread and butter is not exclusively PT because I'm involved in other ventures and because of the industry I can't venture in to the recording world full time at the moment however I have strong future plans to do so. We are already very far with PT accessibility but it is important that accessibility keeps improving if not at least staying the same in future PT versions. As said earlyer the entire PT comunity is currently unsure about the future especially with what's going to happen in PT11 with older hardware and then there's also 3rd party plug manufacturers having to adopt the aax standard. Totally breaking something in a new version of PT for example aax not working when PT10 launched is simply unexceptable and very crucial to someone who use PT to pay the bills. Anyway enough for now, Slau, I'm 100% behind you and your dissisions, hope there's no hard feelings. Chris Norman wrote: > Sorry, hit the wrong key there... > > There's obviously things you can't discuss, and that's fine, but as you said, > when people don't know the whole truth, they tend to jump to assumptions or > whatever, as we have obviously done with suggesting Avid be brought into the > loop regarding this bug and so on. > > But, now you've said all that, I'll personally try and be more understanding > etc, but please please please, if there's anything we can do, please let us > know. I feel strongly about Pro Tools accessibility, and not because I think > it's my right as a blind user to be able to use Pro Tools, but because I > enjoy working with Pro Tools, and it's a world better than using Garage Band > to record with. Maybe if and when logic Accessibility comes along, I'll feel > different, Logic certainly looks like a nice piece of software, but I'm sure > there'll always be room for PT. > > Anyways, I'll stop rambling now, but stay on it, and remember there's a whole > community willing to help in any way we can. > > Look forward to hearing of your progress, and as always, have fun! > > Take care, > Chris Norman > > > > > On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:27, Slau Halatyn wrote: > > > Members of this list, > > > > I'm writing an open letter to all of you with my concerns and a request. > > I've been working on the issue of Pro Tools accessibility for a very long > > time. I wasn't involved with the initial progress back in OS 9 but I did > > become deeply involved under OS X. I never campaigned for this "position," > > for lack of a better word but I took on the role, firstly, for personal > > reasons, having wanted to have an accessible platform as an audio engineer > > and, secondly, for the sake of many blind musicians who needed a unified > > voice representing the immediate concerns for an accessible Pro Tools > > platform. I've spent enormous sums of money and countless hours on this > > project. I never asked for a dime, mostly because of my personal interest > > in the outcome but also because I never wanted to feel like I was beholden > > to anybody in any way. There were times, sometimes huge swaths of time, > > that often passed with no visible results but I knew it was time well spent > > because of the quality of the relationships I've built and the results > > we've gotten so far. > > > > I now know what it probably feels like to be a politician. Let me assure > > you that it's no stroll in the park. Sometimes, you are not at liberty to > > discuss certain details openly for any number of reasons. I have a new > > appreciation for executive privilege and classified information. That said, > > I've been as open as I could possibly be with both the list and the > > periodic updates on the petition site. I also have a new appreciation for > > how one cannot satisfy the desires of everyone. I can also appreciate that > > old saying about walking a mile in someone's shoes. > > > > Although, as I've said, I've never campaigned for this, I've also fallen > > into this situation by default. I never asked for this and I only agreed to > > it, at least in my mind, because I honestly felt responsible and I also > > felt that I was the right person for the job. > > > > Every so o
Re: some more details about the meeting and your support
Sorry, hit the wrong key there... There's obviously things you can't discuss, and that's fine, but as you said, when people don't know the whole truth, they tend to jump to assumptions or whatever, as we have obviously done with suggesting Avid be brought into the loop regarding this bug and so on. But, now you've said all that, I'll personally try and be more understanding etc, but please please please, if there's anything we can do, please let us know. I feel strongly about Pro Tools accessibility, and not because I think it's my right as a blind user to be able to use Pro Tools, but because I enjoy working with Pro Tools, and it's a world better than using Garage Band to record with. Maybe if and when logic Accessibility comes along, I'll feel different, Logic certainly looks like a nice piece of software, but I'm sure there'll always be room for PT. Anyways, I'll stop rambling now, but stay on it, and remember there's a whole community willing to help in any way we can. Look forward to hearing of your progress, and as always, have fun! Take care, Chris Norman On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:27, Slau Halatyn wrote: > Members of this list, > > I'm writing an open letter to all of you with my concerns and a request. I've > been working on the issue of Pro Tools accessibility for a very long time. I > wasn't involved with the initial progress back in OS 9 but I did become > deeply involved under OS X. I never campaigned for this "position," for lack > of a better word but I took on the role, firstly, for personal reasons, > having wanted to have an accessible platform as an audio engineer and, > secondly, for the sake of many blind musicians who needed a unified voice > representing the immediate concerns for an accessible Pro Tools platform. > I've spent enormous sums of money and countless hours on this project. I > never asked for a dime, mostly because of my personal interest in the outcome > but also because I never wanted to feel like I was beholden to anybody in any > way. There were times, sometimes huge swaths of time, that often passed with > no visible results but I knew it was time well spent because of the quality > of the relationships I've built and the results we've gotten so far. > > I now know what it probably feels like to be a politician. Let me assure you > that it's no stroll in the park. Sometimes, you are not at liberty to discuss > certain details openly for any number of reasons. I have a new appreciation > for executive privilege and classified information. That said, I've been as > open as I could possibly be with both the list and the periodic updates on > the petition site. I also have a new appreciation for how one cannot satisfy > the desires of everyone. I can also appreciate that old saying about walking > a mile in someone's shoes. > > Although, as I've said, I've never campaigned for this, I've also fallen into > this situation by default. I never asked for this and I only agreed to it, at > least in my mind, because I honestly felt responsible and I also felt that I > was the right person for the job. > > Every so often, it seems, I find the need to defend myself against what I > essentially find to be restlessness on the part of some people. I don't take > it personally because I understand that it comes from a frustration with the > status quo or, more accurately, a perceived lack of progress. I, too, feel > frustrated some of the time and I share many of the concerns of others on > this list. I agree with many ideas and I categorically disagree with other > ideas or at least their implementation and timing. I realize that, when I > happen to disagree with an approach, I probably lose the confidence of those > who see things differently. That's OK. As I said earlier, I accept the fact > that I can't satisfy everybody's wishes—it's impossible. What I do feel that > I have is the support of the majority of our community and I do appreciate > that. > > As I stated earlier, I feel like a politician and I don't particularly enjoy > it. My commitment to the issue of Pro Tools accessibility and to this > community are as follows: > > I will continue my relationship with several key individuals at Avid in the > interest of ensuring a future for Pro Tools accessibility. There are a couple > of things we're waiting for at the moment that will determine how I feel we > should proceed. Pending that initial outcome, I will make a personal decision > whether to continue the work I've been doing. Even if the outcome is > favorable, I'm not sure that I'll take on any responsibility other than beta > testing, as I've done on and off over the years. If the outcome is less > favorable, I'll offer my suggestions for a path toward a goal but I won't > take on any responsibilities unless an explicit majority of this community > give me mandate to move forward with a plan. To put a timeframe on it, > essentially, I'll probably h
Re: some more details about the meeting and your support
Well, let me start out by saying that I for one am extremely greatful for what you've managed to achieve so far. As I've previously stated, I don't know much really, other than what me and my guitar can do, and even then, I'm making it up 90% of the time! So, I am personally 100% behind you. I suspected there was some kind of secrecy surrounding what you and Avid were doing, and although personally I believe that almost all information should be freely available etc, there's obviously things that you can't discuss Take care, Chris Norman On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:27, Slau Halatyn wrote: > Members of this list, > > I'm writing an open letter to all of you with my concerns and a request. I've > been working on the issue of Pro Tools accessibility for a very long time. I > wasn't involved with the initial progress back in OS 9 but I did become > deeply involved under OS X. I never campaigned for this "position," for lack > of a better word but I took on the role, firstly, for personal reasons, > having wanted to have an accessible platform as an audio engineer and, > secondly, for the sake of many blind musicians who needed a unified voice > representing the immediate concerns for an accessible Pro Tools platform. > I've spent enormous sums of money and countless hours on this project. I > never asked for a dime, mostly because of my personal interest in the outcome > but also because I never wanted to feel like I was beholden to anybody in any > way. There were times, sometimes huge swaths of time, that often passed with > no visible results but I knew it was time well spent because of the quality > of the relationships I've built and the results we've gotten so far. > > I now know what it probably feels like to be a politician. Let me assure you > that it's no stroll in the park. Sometimes, you are not at liberty to discuss > certain details openly for any number of reasons. I have a new appreciation > for executive privilege and classified information. That said, I've been as > open as I could possibly be with both the list and the periodic updates on > the petition site. I also have a new appreciation for how one cannot satisfy > the desires of everyone. I can also appreciate that old saying about walking > a mile in someone's shoes. > > Although, as I've said, I've never campaigned for this, I've also fallen into > this situation by default. I never asked for this and I only agreed to it, at > least in my mind, because I honestly felt responsible and I also felt that I > was the right person for the job. > > Every so often, it seems, I find the need to defend myself against what I > essentially find to be restlessness on the part of some people. I don't take > it personally because I understand that it comes from a frustration with the > status quo or, more accurately, a perceived lack of progress. I, too, feel > frustrated some of the time and I share many of the concerns of others on > this list. I agree with many ideas and I categorically disagree with other > ideas or at least their implementation and timing. I realize that, when I > happen to disagree with an approach, I probably lose the confidence of those > who see things differently. That's OK. As I said earlier, I accept the fact > that I can't satisfy everybody's wishes—it's impossible. What I do feel that > I have is the support of the majority of our community and I do appreciate > that. > > As I stated earlier, I feel like a politician and I don't particularly enjoy > it. My commitment to the issue of Pro Tools accessibility and to this > community are as follows: > > I will continue my relationship with several key individuals at Avid in the > interest of ensuring a future for Pro Tools accessibility. There are a couple > of things we're waiting for at the moment that will determine how I feel we > should proceed. Pending that initial outcome, I will make a personal decision > whether to continue the work I've been doing. Even if the outcome is > favorable, I'm not sure that I'll take on any responsibility other than beta > testing, as I've done on and off over the years. If the outcome is less > favorable, I'll offer my suggestions for a path toward a goal but I won't > take on any responsibilities unless an explicit majority of this community > give me mandate to move forward with a plan. To put a timeframe on it, > essentially, I'll probably have some feeling for which way this will likely > go in a few days, maybe a week. > > In a separate email, I will discuss some more details of my meeting at Avid. > Please be aware that I won't engage in a debate on the merits of any given > approach. I'm tired of defending and explaining things. Politicians usually > have a staff to handle such things. Please don't occupy my bandwidth with a > whole bunch of suggestions that will require loads of my time to respond to. > This is a public forum and everybody's entitled to express th
