Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
What I said was that once it becomes accessible, I will sequence in logic. I'm not doing that yet. Kevin On Jun 13, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I thought that you said to me once kevin that Logic wasn't at all accessible? Did I miss something here? You say you could sequence in logic... do tell. Chris. - Original Message - From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:52 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Well, the way I see it, If everyone had access to a zip file that contained all the RTAS plugs, then, you could manually install them even if you were to be running 10.x. What will definitely kill us is if they no longer support RTAS, which would piss their user base off to no end. Even though I use this every day, I'm watching the same decline as you are. My hope is for Logic X to have some accessibility improvements. Then, I could sequence in Logic, and track audio, edit, mix, etc in Pro TOols. Everything all remains to be seen. Kevin=
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
I'm on Sonar 8.5, so anything after that, I'd have no idea. I've not even looked into it. It's not so much I'm quote: threatening to go back to Sonar. That sounds like a very strong word's way of putting it. But think about this realisticly: If I cannot accomplish the work I need to accomplish, thew way I, or the client needs it to be accomplished in one daw, then, don't you think the choice is, either get a DAW that will do it, or lose money? Sure there is make Avid aware, which I have and will, but I don't in the pro world have time to sit here on my couch and wait for them to do what they wanna do when they wanna do it, whilst I'm over here losing clientship. No hard feelings meant, just stating the britual truth that we need to consider. Chris. - Original Message - From: David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:07 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility I think we definitely have to be united and make Avid aware of what's going on. Any solutions to the issue that we could offer them would be helpful too. I'm not sure if threatening to go back to Sonar would work as I thought that Sonar is no longer accessible since 8.5. Personally, I am still using Sonar 8.5 to do my work at home, but I am goign to need to use ProTools professionally, so communication with Avid is really important for me. On 12/06/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hehe, no, true, but if you're only doing some basic stuff, this works. I'll have another stuff while I'm recording this afternoon, but I don't remember things being that terrible when I tried earlier. HTH. On 12/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but like you say, this gives me not much flexibility. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
When was Slau returnning anyway, can't recall what he said. Wasn't it the 29th? Chris. - Original Message - From: David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:16 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Interesting news about Sonar X1. I'll be interested to hear what Slau thinks about these latest ProTools developments (or lack there of) with ProTools, when he returns from his brake. On 12/06/2012, Brian Casey brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm in a similar position, but I hadn't invested in PT yet. As it seems to be going down hill once again at present, my hopes of moving rom sonar to PT in the next year or two are very much up in the air. While sonar 8.5 won't be obsolete or completely out classed in terms of being an option for the blind recordist for a while, things aren't particularly looking up. dancing Dots are by all acounts working on x1 last I heard. Perhaps its time to really push for logic accessability as Reaper doesn't seem to be doing too well either. They all seem to be on some what of a downward trajectory at present. Brian. -- From: David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:07 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility I think we definitely have to be united and make Avid aware of what's going on. Any solutions to the issue that we could offer them would be helpful too. I'm not sure if threatening to go back to Sonar would work as I thought that Sonar is no longer accessible since 8.5. Personally, I am still using Sonar 8.5 to do my work at home, but I am goign to need to use ProTools professionally, so communication with Avid is really important for me. On 12/06/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hehe, no, true, but if you're only doing some basic stuff, this works. I'll have another stuff while I'm recording this afternoon, but I don't remember things being that terrible when I tried earlier. HTH. On 12/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but like you say, this gives me not much flexibility. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- http
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
You wrote: Remember the Garget Note eventually gets fixed! You just half to target the solution! ROFL! I remember that thread! That was hillarious! Chris.
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi Brian, RTAS is absolutely gone in PT 11! :) This comes directly from inside the DS! For further clarification by all means here is my phone #! Talk soon CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com 954-742-0019 GUFFAWING :) In GOD I Trust On Jun 13, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Brian Casey wrote: Yeah, logic is the ggreat hope in terms of providing options I guess. Even if PT declines a b it, I guess efficient users like yourself would go a long way with basic accessability and short cuts, control surface mappings etc etc. I wouldn't rule out the RTAS thing being dropped soon enough if they fly through a few more versions. They were very fast flying from 9 to 10 it seemed to me. Brian. -- From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:52 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Well, the way I see it, If everyone had access to a zip file that contained all the RTAS plugs, then, you could manually install them even if you were to be running 10.x. What will definitely kill us is if they no longer support RTAS, which would piss their user base off to no end. Even though I use this every day, I'm watching the same decline as you are. My hope is for Logic X to have some accessibility improvements. Then, I could sequence in Logic, and track audio, edit, mix, etc in Pro TOols. Everything all remains to be seen. Kevin
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Kevin, If I made it sound like the government was gonna drop a thermo nuclear bomb tomorrow and all hell would break loose, my apologies. I'm not saying we're totally s o l here, as you're right, we're not, but I just wonder how long we'll be able to use the work around you stated. I can't recall who on list said this about a week ago, but in P T 11, apparently, RTAS is totally! going bye bye, in his words. With this said, does this mean the framework wouldn't be there, thus, making it impossible to copy them over? Also where would one go in 10.0 to find the RTAS plugins to copy them and back them up both for archival purpose, as well as to paste them in over top of the A A X stuff? You also say the settings need to be moved to their correct places. Where does one find where that stuff is in the Finder? Chris. - Original Message - From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:27 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility At present, Pro TOols 9.0.6 is solid, and the accessibility issues don't break till 10.2. So, Those wanting to move to a PT system, 9.06 is the ticket. The world isn't coming to an end here. It's just that the AAX format isn't supported. So, don't upgrade. Also, I wonder if one could install all of the RTAS plugs from 10.0 into the 10.2 environment. Think all you need to do is copy the plugin file to the plugins folder and then the setting folders to their respective spots. If this were the case, you'd still be in business whilst upgrading to the newest rig so you can take advantage of newer Mac OS upgrades and the like. We're not dead here. We just need to find a workaround. Your thoughts? Kevin=
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Brian, You say Sonar now has all accessibility broken, I don't wanna veer off the p t topic, as this list isn't for the talk of Sonar, but real quickly, if you don't mind me asking, what about j sonar, are there no snap shots to support the newer versions after 8.5? Also, can one still use Sonar Talking, or has that also broken. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Casey brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:39 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Kevin, I think this work around with 10.0 and 10.2 is what Stefan (apologies can't spell correctly) was refering to earlier in this thread. At least from what I gathered, I think he was suggesting while updating PT to uncheck a box that would install AAX plugins normally, which would then leave the RTAS plugs from the previous install of P|T on the system and available to use. Personally, as I haven't invested in PT yet I'd just be a bit worried that further updates would phase out RTAS plugs and AAX may not get ffixed, and I'd also be nervous that if I wished to buy a copy in the future, it mightn't be so easy or practical to get my hands on a version that isn't broken. Which are all valid concerns. But like you say, none of this is the end of the world, but Avid seem to be updating PT quite regularly these days, so things could slip away faster than expected and there might be even more playing catch-up to do in terms of gaining accessability. Then again, all this is still less damage then say for example the move from sonar 8.5 to sonar x1 on the PC side of things, which effectively broke all accessability entirely, at least until someone develops a product free or otherwise to address that. Your thoughts are appreciated on this Kevin, as I would view you as a professional very much reliant on PT now from what I've gathered. Unfortunately, for workflow reasons, financial reasons and probably a lack of confidence I'm still sitting on the fence about PT, but it's the likes of yourself that give me hope, particularly in the light of these small set backs as Avid make new releases. Thanks Brian. -- From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:27 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility At present, Pro TOols 9.0.6 is solid, and the accessibility issues don't break till 10.2. So, Those wanting to move to a PT system, 9.06 is the ticket. The world isn't coming to an end here. It's just that the AAX format isn't supported. So, don't upgrade. Also, I wonder if one could install all of the RTAS plugs from 10.0 into the 10.2 environment. Think all you need to do is copy the plugin file to the plugins folder and then the setting folders to their respective spots. If this were the case, you'd still be in business whilst upgrading to the newest rig so you can take advantage of newer Mac OS upgrades and the like. We're not dead here. We just need to find a workaround. Your thoughts? Kevin
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
I thought that you said to me once kevin that Logic wasn't at all accessible? Did I miss something here? You say you could sequence in logic... do tell. Chris. - Original Message - From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:52 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Well, the way I see it, If everyone had access to a zip file that contained all the RTAS plugs, then, you could manually install them even if you were to be running 10.x. What will definitely kill us is if they no longer support RTAS, which would piss their user base off to no end. Even though I use this every day, I'm watching the same decline as you are. My hope is for Logic X to have some accessibility improvements. Then, I could sequence in Logic, and track audio, edit, mix, etc in Pro TOols. Everything all remains to be seen. Kevin=
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
And from what I hear, pt 11's already in the works. I'm thinking, what the heck! People? Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Casey brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:05 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Yeah, logic is the ggreat hope in terms of providing options I guess. Even if PT declines a b it, I guess efficient users like yourself would go a long way with basic accessability and short cuts, control surface mappings etc etc. I wouldn't rule out the RTAS thing being dropped soon enough if they fly through a few more versions. They were very fast flying from 9 to 10 it seemed to me. Brian. -- From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:52 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Well, the way I see it, If everyone had access to a zip file that contained all the RTAS plugs, then, you could manually install them even if you were to be running 10.x. What will definitely kill us is if they no longer support RTAS, which would piss their user base off to no end. Even though I use this every day, I'm watching the same decline as you are. My hope is for Logic X to have some accessibility improvements. Then, I could sequence in Logic, and track audio, edit, mix, etc in Pro TOols. Everything all remains to be seen. Kevin
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Chuck, You forgot to include your number in the e-mail here, and honestly, I would like to discuss this a bit more with you, via voice of you are ok with that. If you'd rather e-mail the number off list for security reasons, that's fine. My address is: clgillan...@gmail.com Thanks. Chris. - Original Message - From: CHUCK REICHEL To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:24 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi Brian, RTAS is absolutely gone in PT 11! :) This comes directly from inside the DS! For further clarification by all means here is my phone #! Talk soon CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com 954-742-0019 GUFFAWING :) In GOD I Trust On Jun 13, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Brian Casey wrote: Yeah, logic is the ggreat hope in terms of providing options I guess. Even if PT declines a b it, I guess efficient users like yourself would go a long way with basic accessability and short cuts, control surface mappings etc etc. I wouldn't rule out the RTAS thing being dropped soon enough if they fly through a few more versions. They were very fast flying from 9 to 10 it seemed to me. Brian. -- From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:52 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Well, the way I see it, If everyone had access to a zip file that contained all the RTAS plugs, then, you could manually install them even if you were to be running 10.x. What will definitely kill us is if they no longer support RTAS, which would piss their user base off to no end. Even though I use this every day, I'm watching the same decline as you are. My hope is for Logic X to have some accessibility improvements. Then, I could sequence in Logic, and track audio, edit, mix, etc in Pro TOols. Everything all remains to be seen. Kevin
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
JSonar doesnt support anything above Sonar 8.5. So currently ProTools is more accessible than Sonar. Logic isn't accessible yet to the best of my knowledge. I think the hope is that it will become accessible in time. On 13/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: And from what I hear, pt 11's already in the works. I'm thinking, what the heck! People? Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Casey brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:05 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Yeah, logic is the ggreat hope in terms of providing options I guess. Even if PT declines a b it, I guess efficient users like yourself would go a long way with basic accessability and short cuts, control surface mappings etc etc. I wouldn't rule out the RTAS thing being dropped soon enough if they fly through a few more versions. They were very fast flying from 9 to 10 it seemed to me. Brian. -- From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:52 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Well, the way I see it, If everyone had access to a zip file that contained all the RTAS plugs, then, you could manually install them even if you were to be running 10.x. What will definitely kill us is if they no longer support RTAS, which would piss their user base off to no end. Even though I use this every day, I'm watching the same decline as you are. My hope is for Logic X to have some accessibility improvements. Then, I could sequence in Logic, and track audio, edit, mix, etc in Pro TOols. Everything all remains to be seen. Kevin -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
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Hi Christopher, My # is in every signature! 954 is the Garget clue! ;) Email myself off list with yours and I'll ring you up! :) Talk soon CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com 954-742-0019 Isaiah 26 : 3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. In GOD I Trust On Jun 13, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Chuck, You forgot to include your number in the e-mail here, and honestly, I would like to discuss this a bit more with you, via voice of you are ok with that. If you'd rather e-mail the number off list for security reasons, that's fine. My address is: clgillan...@gmail.com Thanks. Chris. - Original Message - From: CHUCK REICHEL To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:24 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi Brian, RTAS is absolutely gone in PT 11! :) This comes directly from inside the DS! For further clarification by all means here is my phone #! Talk soon CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com 954-742-0019 GUFFAWING :) In GOD I Trust On Jun 13, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Brian Casey wrote: Yeah, logic is the ggreat hope in terms of providing options I guess. Even if PT declines a b it, I guess efficient users like yourself would go a long way with basic accessability and short cuts, control surface mappings etc etc. I wouldn't rule out the RTAS thing being dropped soon enough if they fly through a few more versions. They were very fast flying from 9 to 10 it seemed to me. Brian. -- From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:52 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Well, the way I see it, If everyone had access to a zip file that contained all the RTAS plugs, then, you could manually install them even if you were to be running 10.x. What will definitely kill us is if they no longer support RTAS, which would piss their user base off to no end. Even though I use this every day, I'm watching the same decline as you are. My hope is for Logic X to have some accessibility improvements. Then, I could sequence in Logic, and track audio, edit, mix, etc in Pro TOols. Everything all remains to be seen. Kevin
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Yeah, but like you say, this gives me not much flexibility. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hehe, no, true, but if you're only doing some basic stuff, this works. I'll have another stuff while I'm recording this afternoon, but I don't remember things being that terrible when I tried earlier. HTH. On 12/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but like you say, this gives me not much flexibility. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
I think we definitely have to be united and make Avid aware of what's going on. Any solutions to the issue that we could offer them would be helpful too. I'm not sure if threatening to go back to Sonar would work as I thought that Sonar is no longer accessible since 8.5. Personally, I am still using Sonar 8.5 to do my work at home, but I am goign to need to use ProTools professionally, so communication with Avid is really important for me. On 12/06/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hehe, no, true, but if you're only doing some basic stuff, this works. I'll have another stuff while I'm recording this afternoon, but I don't remember things being that terrible when I tried earlier. HTH. On 12/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but like you say, this gives me not much flexibility. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
I'm in a similar position, but I hadn't invested in PT yet. As it seems to be going down hill once again at present, my hopes of moving rom sonar to PT in the next year or two are very much up in the air. While sonar 8.5 won't be obsolete or completely out classed in terms of being an option for the blind recordist for a while, things aren't particularly looking up. dancing Dots are by all acounts working on x1 last I heard. Perhaps its time to really push for logic accessability as Reaper doesn't seem to be doing too well either. They all seem to be on some what of a downward trajectory at present. Brian. -- From: David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:07 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility I think we definitely have to be united and make Avid aware of what's going on. Any solutions to the issue that we could offer them would be helpful too. I'm not sure if threatening to go back to Sonar would work as I thought that Sonar is no longer accessible since 8.5. Personally, I am still using Sonar 8.5 to do my work at home, but I am goign to need to use ProTools professionally, so communication with Avid is really important for me. On 12/06/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hehe, no, true, but if you're only doing some basic stuff, this works. I'll have another stuff while I'm recording this afternoon, but I don't remember things being that terrible when I tried earlier. HTH. On 12/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but like you say, this gives me not much flexibility. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Interesting news about Sonar X1. I'll be interested to hear what Slau thinks about these latest ProTools developments (or lack there of) with ProTools, when he returns from his brake. On 12/06/2012, Brian Casey brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm in a similar position, but I hadn't invested in PT yet. As it seems to be going down hill once again at present, my hopes of moving rom sonar to PT in the next year or two are very much up in the air. While sonar 8.5 won't be obsolete or completely out classed in terms of being an option for the blind recordist for a while, things aren't particularly looking up. dancing Dots are by all acounts working on x1 last I heard. Perhaps its time to really push for logic accessability as Reaper doesn't seem to be doing too well either. They all seem to be on some what of a downward trajectory at present. Brian. -- From: David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:07 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility I think we definitely have to be united and make Avid aware of what's going on. Any solutions to the issue that we could offer them would be helpful too. I'm not sure if threatening to go back to Sonar would work as I thought that Sonar is no longer accessible since 8.5. Personally, I am still using Sonar 8.5 to do my work at home, but I am goign to need to use ProTools professionally, so communication with Avid is really important for me. On 12/06/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hehe, no, true, but if you're only doing some basic stuff, this works. I'll have another stuff while I'm recording this afternoon, but I don't remember things being that terrible when I tried earlier. HTH. On 12/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but like you say, this gives me not much flexibility. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
I'd imagine he's not thinking much, other than to keep going as he's done previously. This phase was always going to be a temporary fix at best and I guess we all lost the run of ourselves considering PT to be an accessible platform, forgetting about the fragility o that accessibility. Brian. -- From: David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:16 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Interesting news about Sonar X1. I'll be interested to hear what Slau thinks about these latest ProTools developments (or lack there of) with ProTools, when he returns from his brake. On 12/06/2012, Brian Casey brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm in a similar position, but I hadn't invested in PT yet. As it seems to be going down hill once again at present, my hopes of moving rom sonar to PT in the next year or two are very much up in the air. While sonar 8.5 won't be obsolete or completely out classed in terms of being an option for the blind recordist for a while, things aren't particularly looking up. dancing Dots are by all acounts working on x1 last I heard. Perhaps its time to really push for logic accessability as Reaper doesn't seem to be doing too well either. They all seem to be on some what of a downward trajectory at present. Brian. -- From: David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:07 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility I think we definitely have to be united and make Avid aware of what's going on. Any solutions to the issue that we could offer them would be helpful too. I'm not sure if threatening to go back to Sonar would work as I thought that Sonar is no longer accessible since 8.5. Personally, I am still using Sonar 8.5 to do my work at home, but I am goign to need to use ProTools professionally, so communication with Avid is really important for me. On 12/06/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hehe, no, true, but if you're only doing some basic stuff, this works. I'll have another stuff while I'm recording this afternoon, but I don't remember things being that terrible when I tried earlier. HTH. On 12/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but like you say, this gives me not much flexibility. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi David, I agree! Unless your aware of a need its very hard to fill that need! :) Like I said before I'm on pt 9.3 and staying there until the dripping tap gets fixed! ;) Unless your independently wealthy or not using the new PT there isn't an urgency to act! Remember the Garget Note eventually gets fixed! You just half to target the solution! GUFFAWING :) CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com 954-742-0019 In GOD I Trust On Jun 12, 2012, at 9:07 AM, David Eagle wrote: I think we definitely have to be united and make Avid aware of what's going on. Any solutions to the issue that we could offer them would be helpful too. I'm not sure if threatening to go back to Sonar would work as I thought that Sonar is no longer accessible since 8.5. Personally, I am still using Sonar 8.5 to do my work at home, but I am goign to need to use ProTools professionally, so communication with Avid is really important for me. On 12/06/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hehe, no, true, but if you're only doing some basic stuff, this works. I'll have another stuff while I'm recording this afternoon, but I don't remember things being that terrible when I tried earlier. HTH. On 12/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but like you say, this gives me not much flexibility. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi Stefan, rtas option goes By By in PT 11! :) The time is now for action! :) YMMV CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi, I agree, but we have to go two ways: Action and workarounds, just to be productive. Remember, how long it took to fight the accessibility issue, as we have it at the moment. And the control surface option will work with both plugin formats. StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 18:27 schrieb CHUCK REICHEL: Hi Stefan, rtas option goes By By in PT 11! :) The time is now for action! :) YMMV CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Dear Stefan, Thanks for the information, but have two questions about it. 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of the loss of the aax ones? 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht does it exactly doe? thanks,Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi Stefan, Ok now it's clear to me, this is very good news. Now we can use PT10 after all with accessible plugins. Chuck wrote btw rtas will be history in PT11. Well, that's for a later concern. thanks again, Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 19:50 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: Hi, It means, that you have access to the plugins, that were shipped with your pro tools, but in the Rtas format. The new plugins are deleted. The same thing happens in the second stepp I mentioned, because there aren't any plugins installed. Try it out, make a backup and if you aren't satisfied, you can restore. Thanks Stefan Am 07.06.2012 um 19:43 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Dear Stefan, Thanks for the information, but have two questions about it. 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of the loss of the aax ones? 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht does it exactly doe? thanks,Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools at the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hey Nick Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. thanks Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools at the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Nick, believe me I asked about every store over here in the Netherlands with no luck. And on the second hand market they are asking terrible high prices. best, Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar center and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell you. I would do some searching and even check at your local stores as they are buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. Just make sure to install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you do upgrade. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hey Nick Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. thanks Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools a t the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi, Do the units you have been checking for have a copy of pro tools shipped with them as that is probably what the main cost you are paying for? I think you could just find the digi 003 on it's own with no software for a lot less money. I do know other devices like the digi 003 exist that have automation in them so you could look around. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 3:58 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Nick, believe me I asked about every store over here in the Netherlands with no luck. And on the second hand market they are asking terrible high prices. best, Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar center and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell you. I would do some searching and even check at your local stores as they are buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. Just make sure to install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you do upgrade. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hey Nick Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. thanks Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools a t the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
You could always find a dealer on ebay willing to ship to the netherlands. Of course you loos all Local Avid Support and warranty most likely. Check out the Allen Heath ZED R16. Not full control surface but its its a full on analog mixer with 18x18 i/o via firewire and can do more with adat added in. The control surface features should be enough for basic audtomations and effects controls but its not motorized faders. Also you will need a midi to HUI translator as it doesn't support the PT Standard for control surfaces natively. Just a suggestion, may be less expensive than the 003 over there. On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Ronald van Rhijn pa...@xs4all.nl wrote: Nick, believe me I asked about every store over here in the Netherlands with no luck. And on the second hand market they are asking terrible high prices. best, Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar center and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell you. I would do some searching and even check at your local stores as they are buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. Just make sure to install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you do upgrade. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hey Nick Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. thanks Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools a t the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Oh, Gr'r'r'r'r'r'rate! Just the thing I needed to hear! They're already working on v11 and haven't even gotten their crap together in 10.2, and in 11 it's gonna be gone? You know, I am very slowly beginning to get convinced to go back to Sonar and say to hell with p t, if they keep this up. Chris. - Original Message - From: CHUCK REICHEL To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi Stefan, rtas option goes By By in PT 11! :) The time is now for action! :) YMMV CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
OK, I agree with you for now, on the work arounds option, but, that really shouldn't be up to us to fix their problems, and two, that's all great but what about v11. If R Tass goes away, then we're screwed most likely as then those work arounds may or may not, and probably won't work. Again, I'm only assuming, and you know what they say assume makes of you and me. LOL! Ultimately, I think they need to productive listen more to feedback than working on a new version and chucking all feedback from before. Where's the small little Degi design we all grew to love? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, I agree, but we have to go two ways: Action and workarounds, just to be productive. Remember, how long it took to fight the accessibility issue, as we have it at the moment. And the control surface option will work with both plugin formats. StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 18:27 schrieb CHUCK REICHEL: Hi Stefan, rtas option goes By By in PT 11! :) The time is now for action! :) YMMV CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Ronald, I'm glad you caught that, as I a little buzzed right now from a few drinks. LOL! I didn't even think about that, but you have a real valid point here. Chris. - Original Message - From: Ronald van Rhijn pa...@xs4all.nl To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Dear Stefan, Thanks for the information, but have two questions about it. 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of the loss of the aax ones? 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht does it exactly doe? thanks,Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
This is also true, but again, I'm not seeing that alias. I assume that's cause I have 10.0 on here nad not 10.2. Stefan, where are the r tas plugins stored? Would it be something where we could back them up, then somehow in p t 11 once here, we could delete the AAX then paste those old ones back over, or will the new arcutecture not let uws do that. It's a real poor man's way, but, hey, if it works... Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It means, that you have access to the plugins, that were shipped with your pro tools, but in the Rtas format. The new plugins are deleted. The same thing happens in the second stepp I mentioned, because there aren't any plugins installed. Try it out, make a backup and if you aren't satisfied, you can restore. Thanks Stefan Am 07.06.2012 um 19:43 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Dear Stefan, Thanks for the information, but have two questions about it. 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of the loss of the aax ones? 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht does it exactly doe? thanks,Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Ronald, Do you actually try it to see if indeed this does work? Chris. - Original Message - From: Ronald van Rhijn pa...@xs4all.nl To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi Stefan, Ok now it's clear to me, this is very good news. Now we can use PT10 after all with accessible plugins. Chuck wrote btw rtas will be history in PT11. Well, that's for a later concern. thanks again, Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 19:50 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: Hi, It means, that you have access to the plugins, that were shipped with your pro tools, but in the Rtas format. The new plugins are deleted. The same thing happens in the second stepp I mentioned, because there aren't any plugins installed. Try it out, make a backup and if you aren't satisfied, you can restore. Thanks Stefan Am 07.06.2012 um 19:43 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Dear Stefan, Thanks for the information, but have two questions about it. 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of the loss of the aax ones? 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht does it exactly doe? thanks,Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
My biggest issue with PT 10 aside the accessibility, is, I've got a white stocked 13 inch mid 2010 macbook. It's not even a macbook Pro. It's just the standard white pollie carbon. It's a fantastic system, but I only have 2 gigs of ram. Lion takes at least 1 of that, if not more. SL wasn't much better. My question is, every time I launch pt 10, throwing the build .0, or .2 aside, regardless which one, I get an error that my physical ram is running low. I barely can afford my rent each month, let alone buying more ram, forget paying to then also have it installed for me. There is! a check box to not show that screen again, but if I check it, it doesn't go away. The next time I open PT up, it pops right back up again. Maybe I am low on ram, and for more complex projects, you may as well forget it. like, Kevin, the session you sent me of It Takes Time, for instance, and no, I can't send that to you guys, as it's copy written, but generally, my mac puked and choked when I tried openning it. So, yeah, I never had this issue in pt 9 M Powered. I mean, ok, the ram was an issue, but at least I never got that message. It's getting really annoying. If I could just get around that, some how, and then make sure my r tass stuff worked, I'd be willing to quit the fuss. If I can't get it to quit showing that darn thing via the check box, is there a p list file or the like I either could delete or could manually edit to make it not show it? Chris. - Original Message - From: Ronald van Rhijn pa...@xs4all.nl To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hey Nick Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. thanks Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools at the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Personally, I had an Alan Heath interface for a short time, I don't remember which one, it was like an... I wanna say X60, or something? I don't remember... anyway, that that sucker was a beast in a half to figure out. I never really got my head around it, and wound up returnning it. Maybe I just got a product that was too complex, but I've heard from tons of peole that even for sighted people, Alan Heath has a reputation for not being very user friendly. The few times I called their support, they were not very friendly. It wasn't so much they were rude, as much as they expected I knew what I was doing, and their tone of oice suggested they thought i was stupid for asking the things I was. I won't deal with them again, frankly. Chris. - Original Message - From: The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility You could always find a dealer on ebay willing to ship to the netherlands. Of course you loos all Local Avid Support and warranty most likely. Check out the Allen Heath ZED R16. Not full control surface but its its a full on analog mixer with 18x18 i/o via firewire and can do more with adat added in. The control surface features should be enough for basic audtomations and effects controls but its not motorized faders. Also you will need a midi to HUI translator as it doesn't support the PT Standard for control surfaces natively. Just a suggestion, may be less expensive than the 003 over there. On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Ronald van Rhijn pa...@xs4all.nl wrote: Nick, believe me I asked about every store over here in the Netherlands with no luck. And on the second hand market they are asking terrible high prices. best, Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar center and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell you. I would do some searching and even check at your local stores as they are buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. Just make sure to install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you do upgrade. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hey Nick Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. thanks Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools a t the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
