Re: finding out all the key comands for protools9 and lurning them?

2010-11-30 Thread Brian Casey

Hi Frank, Slau and all,

I'm kind of with Slau on the basis that e-mail can get these things done 
better quite often, though perhaps sometimes slower.


Slau and others already dedicate quite a bit of time to answering questions 
by e-mail, and e-mail is very useful for them and us, because it doesn't 
lock in anyone having to be tuned in at the same time necessarily.


I'm just spekaing particularly from my experiences learning about things on 
online forums where this kind of text based back and forth tends to yield 
steady and consistant results.


Just my two cents,

PTAccess is great thus far I think we'll all agree, in both meanings!

Brian.
--
From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:50 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding out all the key comands for protools9 and lurning them?


Hey Frank,

Gee, I thought this list was already kind of a society of blind Pro Tools 
users. ;)
Yes, speaking is decidedly more personal than a bunch of typing, however, 
and of course I recognize the appeal in conducting an online chat. If I'm 
available, I'll certainly participate. If you feel like taking this on, 
I'd suggest you ask people for topics and figure out the logistics. Keep 
us posted on where and when, etc.


Cheers,

Slau

On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote:


Hey Slau

On Nov 29, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:


Hi Frank,

While this sounds like a good idea at first, I can see how it might not 
work out too well. First of all, there will undoubtedly be plenty of 
people who are familiar with how dAWs work who will be utterly 
disinterested in many beginning subjects whereas new comers, not only to 
Pro Tools but to DAWs will want to listen and learn and much of what is 
being said will be over their heads. There needs to be a plan in place 
for an orderly progression of subjects covered thoroughly so that 
everyone can just tune into what interests them. This sounds like a very 
simple idea: start at the top and just go forward. I can't tell you how 
huge an undertaking this is. Of course, one can rush in and just do 
things haphazardly but, I think, will find that it's much more 
complicated than that and certainly much more work. Hey, don't let me 
discourage you from trying but I do think, for good results, one has to 
plan and do it right. Hey, maybe everyone on the list feels differently. 
Chime up, folks.


Well... There are certainly no warranties and no money back guaranties. 
Personally I am looking for this to be more like a society of blind pro 
tools users or something.  I'd like it to be a meeting where people can 
come listen and chime in when appropriate.  Maybe we could have a 10 
minute section for those who have never tried PT; another 20-30 minutes 
of a presentation; a 15-20 minute time for people who are users to 
discuss the challenges and or nifty ways to use PT.  Of course I'm 
looking for something that is flexible and yet honors peoples time.  I 
have been in lots of these kinds of communities over the years and I have 
met some great folks who ended being great friends.  We all need as much 
support as we can get.  Hopefully even those who have been using PT since 
5.1 can still get something out of it.  Maybe they just enjoy teaching 
others; maybe they enjoy the socializing; maybe people end up doing 
business together.  If it doesn't work out for people no big deal.  I 
think we can all learn a whole lot from each other.


--FC






Re: finding out all the key comands for protools9 and lurning them?

2010-11-30 Thread Kevin Mattingly
Some podcasts would be nice. I'm learning about PT and I don't even have my 
software or any direct units yet.

It is all appreciated.

Kev
On Nov 30, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Brian Casey wrote:

 Hi Frank, Slau and all,
 
 I'm kind of with Slau on the basis that e-mail can get these things done 
 better quite often, though perhaps sometimes slower.
 
 Slau and others already dedicate quite a bit of time to answering questions 
 by e-mail, and e-mail is very useful for them and us, because it doesn't lock 
 in anyone having to be tuned in at the same time necessarily.
 
 I'm just spekaing particularly from my experiences learning about things on 
 online forums where this kind of text based back and forth tends to yield 
 steady and consistant results.
 
 Just my two cents,
 
 PTAccess is great thus far I think we'll all agree, in both meanings!
 
 Brian.
 --
 From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:50 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: finding out all the key comands for protools9 and lurning them?
 
 Hey Frank,
 
 Gee, I thought this list was already kind of a society of blind Pro Tools 
 users. ;)
 Yes, speaking is decidedly more personal than a bunch of typing, however, 
 and of course I recognize the appeal in conducting an online chat. If I'm 
 available, I'll certainly participate. If you feel like taking this on, I'd 
 suggest you ask people for topics and figure out the logistics. Keep us 
 posted on where and when, etc.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Slau
 
 On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote:
 
 Hey Slau
 
 On Nov 29, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Hi Frank,
 
 While this sounds like a good idea at first, I can see how it might not 
 work out too well. First of all, there will undoubtedly be plenty of 
 people who are familiar with how dAWs work who will be utterly 
 disinterested in many beginning subjects whereas new comers, not only to 
 Pro Tools but to DAWs will want to listen and learn and much of what is 
 being said will be over their heads. There needs to be a plan in place for 
 an orderly progression of subjects covered thoroughly so that everyone can 
 just tune into what interests them. This sounds like a very simple idea: 
 start at the top and just go forward. I can't tell you how huge an 
 undertaking this is. Of course, one can rush in and just do things 
 haphazardly but, I think, will find that it's much more complicated than 
 that and certainly much more work. Hey, don't let me discourage you from 
 trying but I do think, for good results, one has to plan and do it right. 
 Hey, maybe everyone on the list feels differently. Chime up, folks.
 
 Well... There are certainly no warranties and no money back guaranties. 
 Personally I am looking for this to be more like a society of blind pro 
 tools users or something.  I'd like it to be a meeting where people can 
 come listen and chime in when appropriate.  Maybe we could have a 10 minute 
 section for those who have never tried PT; another 20-30 minutes of a 
 presentation; a 15-20 minute time for people who are users to discuss the 
 challenges and or nifty ways to use PT.  Of course I'm looking for 
 something that is flexible and yet honors peoples time.  I have been in 
 lots of these kinds of communities over the years and I have met some great 
 folks who ended being great friends.  We all need as much support as we can 
 get.  Hopefully even those who have been using PT since 5.1 can still get 
 something out of it.  Maybe they just enjoy teaching others; maybe they 
 enjoy the socializing; maybe people end up doing business together.  If it 
 doesn't work out for people no big deal.  I think we can all learn a whole 
 lot from each other.
 
 --FC
 
 



finding out all the key comands for protools9 and lurning them?

2010-11-29 Thread trahern culver
hey all how would i go about finding out the key commands for
protools9? are they speshail voice over ones? and could i control
protools with a laptop key bord or would i need a desktop keybord?

your help with these questions would be most welcom!!

kind regards trahern.


Re: finding out all the key comands for protools9 and lurning them?

2010-11-29 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi trahern,

Pro Tools comes with an enormous amount of documentation in pdf form. There's a 
Pro Tools Keyboard Shortcuts document that lists tons of commands. I know that 
Avid has these documents on their site although they might not be terribly easy 
to find. At any rate, you might be able to find it relatively easily by doing a 
Google search. Let us know if you can't find it.

Slau

On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:29 AM, trahern culver wrote:

 hey all how would i go about finding out the key commands for
 protools9? are they speshail voice over ones? and could i control
 protools with a laptop key bord or would i need a desktop keybord?
 
 your help with these questions would be most welcom!!
 
 kind regards trahern.



Re: finding out all the key comands for protools9 and lurning them?

2010-11-29 Thread Frank Carmickle
Hi Slau and all 
On Nov 29, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

 Hi Trahern,
 
 You'll see the other message where I posted the link below:
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3016244/Pro%20Tools%20Shortcuts.pdf
 
 In principle, I have nothing against speaking with people over the phone, 
 however, you see, if I were to do that for everyone who asks, I'd spend quite 
 a bit of time saying the same things over and over again. Since there are 
 many subscribers to this list who would also likely benefit from your 
 questions, it would really be helpful for everyone if we discussed things on 
 list, not only for current users but people browsing the archives and 
 searching online. For that matter, perhaps others can chime in with 
 suggestions or facts that I might overlook.
 
I would like to start a weekly hour long conference call that would also be 
podcasted for questions and demos related to pro tools accessibility.  I will 
host the call if people will show up and ask their questions.  I am new to pro 
tools so I have a lot of questions right now also.  I think that being able to 
go back and forth verbally is often a lot easier then email for some people 
including myself.  Is this something that people would participate in?  If so 
are afternoons or evenings ,US eastern, better for people?  Right now Monday's 
and Thursday's are the most open days for me.  I can do a call starting at 
3:00.  What do people think?

Take care
--FC




Re: finding out all the key comands for protools9 and lurning them?

2010-11-29 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Frank,

While this sounds like a good idea at first, I can see how it might not work 
out too well. First of all, there will undoubtedly be plenty of people who are 
familiar with how dAWs work who will be utterly disinterested in many beginning 
subjects whereas new comers, not only to Pro Tools but to DAWs will want to 
listen and learn and much of what is being said will be over their heads. There 
needs to be a plan in place for an orderly progression of subjects covered 
thoroughly so that everyone can just tune into what interests them. This sounds 
like a very simple idea: start at the top and just go forward. I can't tell you 
how huge an undertaking this is. Of course, one can rush in and just do things 
haphazardly but, I think, will find that it's much more complicated than that 
and certainly much more work. Hey, don't let me discourage you from trying but 
I do think, for good results, one has to plan and do it right. Hey, maybe 
everyone on the list feels differently. Chime up, folks.

Slau

On Nov 29, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote:

 Hi Slau and all 
 On Nov 29, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Hi Trahern,
 
 You'll see the other message where I posted the link below:
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3016244/Pro%20Tools%20Shortcuts.pdf
 
 In principle, I have nothing against speaking with people over the phone, 
 however, you see, if I were to do that for everyone who asks, I'd spend 
 quite a bit of time saying the same things over and over again. Since there 
 are many subscribers to this list who would also likely benefit from your 
 questions, it would really be helpful for everyone if we discussed things on 
 list, not only for current users but people browsing the archives and 
 searching online. For that matter, perhaps others can chime in with 
 suggestions or facts that I might overlook.
 
 I would like to start a weekly hour long conference call that would also be 
 podcasted for questions and demos related to pro tools accessibility.  I will 
 host the call if people will show up and ask their questions.  I am new to 
 pro tools so I have a lot of questions right now also.  I think that being 
 able to go back and forth verbally is often a lot easier then email for some 
 people including myself.  Is this something that people would participate in? 
  If so are afternoons or evenings ,US eastern, better for people?  Right now 
 Monday's and Thursday's are the most open days for me.  I can do a call 
 starting at 3:00.  What do people think?
 
 Take care
 --FC
 
 



Re: finding out all the key comands for protools9 and lurning them?

2010-11-29 Thread Sean A. Cummins

Hi Slau,

You can count me in on the internet conference.
Sean
- Original Message - 
From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: finding out all the key comands for protools9 and lurning them?


Hi Frank,

While this sounds like a good idea at first, I can see how it might not work 
out too well. First of all, there will undoubtedly be plenty of people who 
are familiar with how dAWs work who will be utterly disinterested in many 
beginning subjects whereas new comers, not only to Pro Tools but to DAWs 
will want to listen and learn and much of what is being said will be over 
their heads. There needs to be a plan in place for an orderly progression of 
subjects covered thoroughly so that everyone can just tune into what 
interests them. This sounds like a very simple idea: start at the top and 
just go forward. I can't tell you how huge an undertaking this is. Of 
course, one can rush in and just do things haphazardly but, I think, will 
find that it's much more complicated than that and certainly much more work. 
Hey, don't let me discourage you from trying but I do think, for good 
results, one has to plan and do it right. Hey, maybe everyone on the list 
feels differently. Chime up, folks.


Slau

On Nov 29, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote:


Hi Slau and all
On Nov 29, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:


Hi Trahern,

You'll see the other message where I posted the link below:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3016244/Pro%20Tools%20Shortcuts.pdf

In principle, I have nothing against speaking with people over the phone, 
however, you see, if I were to do that for everyone who asks, I'd spend 
quite a bit of time saying the same things over and over again. Since 
there are many subscribers to this list who would also likely benefit 
from your questions, it would really be helpful for everyone if we 
discussed things on list, not only for current users but people browsing 
the archives and searching online. For that matter, perhaps others can 
chime in with suggestions or facts that I might overlook.


I would like to start a weekly hour long conference call that would also 
be podcasted for questions and demos related to pro tools accessibility. 
I will host the call if people will show up and ask their questions.  I am 
new to pro tools so I have a lot of questions right now also.  I think 
that being able to go back and forth verbally is often a lot easier then 
email for some people including myself.  Is this something that people 
would participate in?  If so are afternoons or evenings ,US eastern, 
better for people?  Right now Monday's and Thursday's are the most open 
days for me.  I can do a call starting at 3:00.  What do people think?


Take care
--FC






Re: finding out all the key comands for protools9 and lurning them?

2010-11-29 Thread Frank Carmickle
Hey Slau

On Nov 29, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

 Hi Frank,
 
 While this sounds like a good idea at first, I can see how it might not work 
 out too well. First of all, there will undoubtedly be plenty of people who 
 are familiar with how dAWs work who will be utterly disinterested in many 
 beginning subjects whereas new comers, not only to Pro Tools but to DAWs will 
 want to listen and learn and much of what is being said will be over their 
 heads. There needs to be a plan in place for an orderly progression of 
 subjects covered thoroughly so that everyone can just tune into what 
 interests them. This sounds like a very simple idea: start at the top and 
 just go forward. I can't tell you how huge an undertaking this is. Of course, 
 one can rush in and just do things haphazardly but, I think, will find that 
 it's much more complicated than that and certainly much more work. Hey, don't 
 let me discourage you from trying but I do think, for good results, one has 
 to plan and do it right. Hey, maybe everyone on the list feels differently. 
 Chime up, folks.
 
Well... There are certainly no warranties and no money back guaranties.  
Personally I am looking for this to be more like a society of blind pro tools 
users or something.  I'd like it to be a meeting where people can come listen 
and chime in when appropriate.  Maybe we could have a 10 minute section for 
those who have never tried PT; another 20-30 minutes of a presentation; a 15-20 
minute time for people who are users to discuss the challenges and or nifty 
ways to use PT.  Of course I'm looking for something that is flexible and yet 
honors peoples time.  I have been in lots of these kinds of communities over 
the years and I have met some great folks who ended being great friends.  We 
all need as much support as we can get.  Hopefully even those who have been 
using PT since 5.1 can still get something out of it.  Maybe they just enjoy 
teaching others; maybe they enjoy the socializing; maybe people end up doing 
business together.  If it doesn't work out for people no big deal.  I think we 
can all learn a whole lot from each other.

--FC



Re: finding out all the key comands for protools9 and lurning them?

2010-11-29 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hey Frank,

Gee, I thought this list was already kind of a society of blind Pro Tools 
users. ;)
Yes, speaking is decidedly more personal than a bunch of typing, however, and 
of course I recognize the appeal in conducting an online chat. If I'm 
available, I'll certainly participate. If you feel like taking this on, I'd 
suggest you ask people for topics and figure out the logistics. Keep us posted 
on where and when, etc.

Cheers,

Slau

On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote:

 Hey Slau
 
 On Nov 29, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Hi Frank,
 
 While this sounds like a good idea at first, I can see how it might not work 
 out too well. First of all, there will undoubtedly be plenty of people who 
 are familiar with how dAWs work who will be utterly disinterested in many 
 beginning subjects whereas new comers, not only to Pro Tools but to DAWs 
 will want to listen and learn and much of what is being said will be over 
 their heads. There needs to be a plan in place for an orderly progression of 
 subjects covered thoroughly so that everyone can just tune into what 
 interests them. This sounds like a very simple idea: start at the top and 
 just go forward. I can't tell you how huge an undertaking this is. Of 
 course, one can rush in and just do things haphazardly but, I think, will 
 find that it's much more complicated than that and certainly much more work. 
 Hey, don't let me discourage you from trying but I do think, for good 
 results, one has to plan and do it right. Hey, maybe everyone on the list 
 feels differently. Chime up, folks.
 
 Well... There are certainly no warranties and no money back guaranties.  
 Personally I am looking for this to be more like a society of blind pro tools 
 users or something.  I'd like it to be a meeting where people can come listen 
 and chime in when appropriate.  Maybe we could have a 10 minute section for 
 those who have never tried PT; another 20-30 minutes of a presentation; a 
 15-20 minute time for people who are users to discuss the challenges and or 
 nifty ways to use PT.  Of course I'm looking for something that is flexible 
 and yet honors peoples time.  I have been in lots of these kinds of 
 communities over the years and I have met some great folks who ended being 
 great friends.  We all need as much support as we can get.  Hopefully even 
 those who have been using PT since 5.1 can still get something out of it.  
 Maybe they just enjoy teaching others; maybe they enjoy the socializing; 
 maybe people end up doing business together.  If it doesn't work out for 
 people no big deal.  I think we can all learn a whole lot from each other.
 
 --FC